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News by Tom Bramwell

7 September, 2007

Valve has confirmed that the PlayStation 3 version of Orange Box will be released a bit later than PC and 360 builds - but said the delay is nothing to do with the console itself.

The reason for the PS3 build's late arrival, marketing director Doug Lombardi told Eurogamer, is simply that the EA UK team handling its development are on the other side of the ocean and are necessarily a bit behind the core Valve team's development.

"We weren't going to hold up PC and 360 for PS3," Lombardi told us, which means the PS3 game will probably be released "around two or three weeks later".

As it stands, PC and 360 versions are due out on 9th October in the US and 12th October in Europe. As well as retail releases, the PC version will appear on Steam. In terms of pricing, PC will likely go for GBP 29.99 while 360 and PS3 versions will cost around GBP 39.99.

But, to get back to the PS3, the good news is that Valve reckons the three versions will be identical in function and, critically, performance. That's good news for Sony fans who've been getting a bit of a raw deal from some cross-platform ports.

As for the quality of the games, we're not in a position to discuss specifics until our little friend the embargo removes his hand from around our throats, but it's worth remembering that buyers on all three formats get Half-Life 2, Episode One, Episode Two, Portal and Team Fortress 2, which certainly represents value for money.

Look out for more news from Valve in the next few days.

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dunnster44u
07/09/07 @ 07:38
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looking forward to this!!
Kryon
07/09/07 @ 07:40
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PS3 Delaylol
AaronTurner
07/09/07 @ 07:48
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Would be excellent if it came with Counterstrike. I'm well looking forward to this anyway.
Killerbee
07/09/07 @ 07:52
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Is it still the case that for PC owners to get Episode 2 and Portal only (i.e. without having to pay all over again for a copy of HL2 and Episode One) we have to use Steam?
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X201
07/09/07 @ 07:57
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Killerbee:I would image that would be the case. Can't see them retailing various combinations of what each individual wants.

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07/09/07 @ 07:58
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I hear you werent using any SPU code for the PS3 version. How is it possible for you to maintain the same quality as the multithreaded 360 and PC version?

Seems like you are lying to us Doug.
gizmo
07/09/07 @ 07:59
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EAUKlol
Trendyninja
07/09/07 @ 08:03
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Seems to be the trend now with PS3 games doesn't it?

Not good.
Eraser
07/09/07 @ 08:03
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Wasn't there a black box with only Episode 2 and portal (can't remember if TF2 would be included with that)? Or has that idea been canned?
Eighthours
07/09/07 @ 08:08
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I'm taking the "same quality" thing with a pinch of salt for now, to be honest. Valve themselves versus EA inhouse port? Hrrrumph.
geepersd
07/09/07 @ 08:11
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there was a Black Box version as far as I rmember, but it was scrapped a while back
Whizzo
07/09/07 @ 08:12
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There was a Black Box but that got cancelled. Probably because Valve and EA realised anyone just wanting Ep2/TF2/Portal were going to buy via Steam.
SBfistfun
07/09/07 @ 08:13
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PS3 version identical?But what about teh power of teh cell?!

bah!

Great collection of games though!
Steroyd
07/09/07 @ 08:15
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£40?

Oh screw you Valve that makes it very tempting to buy now. :(
crazyhorse174
07/09/07 @ 08:15
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Heres a question...why are PC versions of these games always 10 quid cheaper than the console ports of the same fucking game!
ostrasized
07/09/07 @ 08:17
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I can answer that. Manufacturer's fees. Anyone who wants to release a game on Xbox or PS3 has to pay MS or Sony aroung £8 for every unit manufactured - irrespective if they're sold or not.
Steroyd
07/09/07 @ 08:17
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to compensate paying £1000 to get a PC to run the the game?
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07/09/07 @ 08:19
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I'd like to believe this will be as good on PS3 but something tells me that it won't be as good.
Peew971
07/09/07 @ 08:19
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Because the price of a high end PC equals 4 consoles :)
They have to save cash somewhere...

PS: I'm talking bs, I have no idea
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07/09/07 @ 08:20
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disk: that comment about it not using any multi-threading turned out to be a hoax. It was written so poorly i was quite relieved to find that it was (the author even claimed to work for the publisher that are no longer involved with Valve, which somewhat gave it away).
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07/09/07 @ 08:21
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@ crazyhorse174; Because console manufacturers need to recoup the cost of the console itself through software sales, it's how they can "afford" to sell them at a loss.
Carlo
07/09/07 @ 08:21
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PORTAL!!!!!!!


FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
drxym
07/09/07 @ 08:22
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Gabe Newell has mouthed off about the PS3 multiple times now. This I chalk up more to his Microsoft-centric world than any legitimate criticism. I suspect his complaints stem from expecting a single threaded DirectX engine to be a quick port to the PS3. Quite silly really. Even so, it hardly inspires any confidence about the quality of the port. The PS3 has suffered far too much from hand-me-down ports from secondary / contract teams and the negativity from the company's own head hardly makes me want to go out and buy HL2 on the PS3. If Valve really want to generate some hype, how about showing PS3 previews to the mags and let them report on it. If the port is good it will reflect in the previews. It's quite stupid to shove the thing out surrounded by negative comments and then expect sales to be great. I almost feel if the thing doesn't sell on the PS3 (thanks to Gabe's anti-hype and low expectations) that Gabe will be blaming the PS3 for that too.
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Freelancepolice
07/09/07 @ 08:22
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I could make a pc for the same price of a 360 which could play the orange box i reckon easily.
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07/09/07 @ 08:25
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trebell: Are you sure? Because it sounded like absolute rubbish to me as well, especially since they are using Havok and Havok has a very stable and well performing SPU build.

It's just that you never know with these marketing fuckers.
trebell
07/09/07 @ 08:29
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disc: definitely. It led to the article (if you can call it that) being taken down.

I'm sure they will be getting everything they can out of it at this stage.
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pigwhistler
07/09/07 @ 08:30
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/start troll...

so the three versions will be identical in performance... does this mean they are borking the pc version?.


/end troll...
X201
07/09/07 @ 08:31
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"PORTAL!!!!!!!
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


Pah! kids! don't know what real waiting is about ;-)

TF2!!!!!1!
FINALLY!!!!!1!
(Now that's proper waiting)
Yaster
07/09/07 @ 08:31
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That's a sale for the 360 version
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07/09/07 @ 08:34
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Kind of a little fed up with half life these days. I guess it had to happen though in the face of stuff like crysis, farcry 2, halo 3, killzone 2 etc. etc.

Guess I'm just all FPSed out.

I think I'll just shout from the sidelines "Go Gordon. Let me know what happens when you find the prof! yea a phone call would be ok...better yet just text me..mm kay"
Rich72
07/09/07 @ 08:35
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will it have the same god awful long loading screens still?
urban
07/09/07 @ 08:37
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fucking EA. always being shit.
zuljin
07/09/07 @ 08:51
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@pigwhistler
Poor effort man, poor effort. :)

@disc
Havoks only been on SPU for about 5 months though, so could be possible they are on an old version or so (silly really because Havok support + sample code is awesome).
Bumhug360
07/09/07 @ 09:01
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I hope episode 2 is longer than episode 1, just as I got into it the game ended. Got home from work, played it for a couple of hours, thought to myself just get past this next bit and get some food and that was it game over. Played demos that lasted longer
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07/09/07 @ 09:04
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The reason for the PS3 build's late arrival, marketing director Doug Lombardi told Eurogamer, is simply that the EA UK team handling its development are on the other side of the ocean and are necessarily a bit behind the core Valve team's development.

/awards spin doctor award of the month award

Atleast he took the effort to think of an excuse.
Xerx3s
07/09/07 @ 09:07
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to compensate paying £1000 to get a PC to run the the game?

That's such a load of rubbish that I can't even be bothered to make fun of it.
Garulon
07/09/07 @ 09:12
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"The PS3 has suffered far too much from hand-me-down ports from secondary / contract teams"

Or it's just NOT AS POWERFUL as Sony said it was. Unless Lair was a secondary/contract team as well?
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07/09/07 @ 09:14
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Killerbee:I would image that would be the case. Can't see them retailing various combinations of what each individual wants.

Yup, can't really blame them for that - and for the normal price of a full game, it's still fair with Ep 2, Portal and TF2, even if you already have HL2 and Ep 1, if you have to have the boxed version.
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07/09/07 @ 09:17
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If only there were a more efficient way to communicate with people on the other side of the Atlantic than sticking a Post-it(tm) to a sea turtle and crossing your fingers...
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07/09/07 @ 09:17
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I'm worried, for the 360 version in particular, that this title will get forgotten in the pre-Christmas rush. A lot of my mates from my previous company own 360s having been converted (in part, by me) from PS2.

They all loved CoD2 but dodged 3; but all are getting hyped by CoD4. None of them have played and HL or Halo games before (sacrilidge I know, but they're OK guys, honest!!!), but I reckon they'll go with Halo 3 over the Orange Box.

Edit: (clarification): ...I can't see them buying a third FPS pre-christmas!!!!

Personally, I reckon I'll be picking up OB for HL2 and Episodes 1&2 at that bargain price... I just fear there'll be no-one on my friends-list with whom to play TF2 :0(
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neilka
07/09/07 @ 09:17
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If you buy the boxed version you can sell/pass on the keys for the games you already have/don't want.
evild_edd
07/09/07 @ 09:20
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Oh, and here's the confirmation on EA canning the black box, for you PC gamers...

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?art...

Edd.
S.J.Rogers
07/09/07 @ 09:37
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@ evild_edd

Add me to your friends list as i will be playing TF2 to death..!
X201
07/09/07 @ 09:55
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Ditto me for TF2

Been waiting ages for it.
Portal and Ep2 can wait a bit longer. TF2 is at the front of the queue.
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07/09/07 @ 10:03
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1000 quid for a pc to play this on? 1000 quid will currently get you a quad core 4gb ram pc that will be future proof for at least 3 years. To play THIS you do not need to spend more than around the price of a ps3. handy!
Eraser
07/09/07 @ 10:35
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What payment methods does Steam offer? I don't have a credit card or Paypal account.
barnard666
07/09/07 @ 10:37
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there is so much game in there, I want toi get it (and will) I just dont know when I'll get to play it, with halo and mario coming out round there, and then COD4 and ratchet just after, I might actually not get it till january so I can actually give it the time it deserves...

hell, Id love to know what the achievements are for this game. It;s going to be a monster, splitting 1000 points between all that...finash HL2 on hard 10GP or finsh portal in under two hours, 1 GP...not thatr it matters of course.
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07/09/07 @ 10:40
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2-3 weeks is nothing really. It's hardly the end of the world for PS3 owners, unless they are very easily riled by trolling 360 fanboys.

My real worry is how I'm going to find enough time to fully appreciate all the online shooters coming out this year:

Team Fortress
Halo3
COD4

Anyone one of these three would deserve a few months uninterrupted play.
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07/09/07 @ 10:53
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zuljin: 10 months now. I'm quite positive the Havok I was using in October/November last year was running on SPUs :) In March they tried to sell their latest version to us (another team then) and hyped their performance a great deal.
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07/09/07 @ 10:53
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Read somewhere that those Valve idiots have the PS3 version working without making any use of the SPUs. So just using the Cell core and the RSX.

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