Valve E3 reveal "isn't Ep 3" - Newell

By Oli Welsh Published 7 June, 2010

Boss quells Half-Life 2 speculation.

Valve boss Gabe Newell has mailed fan site HalfLife2.net to say that the developer's E3 reveal is not Half-Life 2: Episode 3.

Valve lit up the internet with speculation last week when it cheekily said it was replacing its Portal 2 event with a "surprise".

When emailed about the surprise by the site, Newell simply replied, "It isn't ep 3".

Newell also dismissed an image bearing the Half-Life logo, hero Gordon Freeman's name and "14th June" - the date of Valve's event. "Fake," he said.

Portal 2 is definitely being shown at E3, so whatever Valve's plans are, we won't be coming home empty-handed. Look out for more info - yes - next week.

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  • wizlon #1 2 years ago

    So it's HL3 then!

  • towser #2 2 years ago

    I am hoping that this will be the release of the Black Mesa mod. It's been in dev for fucking yonks!

    [link url=http://blackmesasource.co m/
    ]http://blackmesasource.co m/
    [/link]

  • chalkyQUAKER #3 2 years ago

    Fuck episode 3, I want half life 3.

  • cw- #4 2 years ago

    @towser

    That would be cool ... but it has nothing to do with Valve ...?

  • Lemming81 #5 2 years ago

    Then sorry Gabe, we don't care what it is.

  • JahB #6 2 years ago

    Left4Dead 3

    that 12 month dev cycle seems to work out fine

  • dominalien #7 2 years ago

    Best of all is... I'll be able to play all that on my Mac ;-)

  • huckan #8 2 years ago

    I'm 99.9% confident I've never played a valve game and walked away feeling cheated, excellent value for money and I can't wait to see what's next.

  • TeaFiend #9 2 years ago

    I am still hoping for "Gabe Newell presents Keep Fit With Exercise for Natal".

  • alcides #10 2 years ago

    Ep3 is ONE letter close to setting Gabezilla ablaze, please don't.

  • Retro_ #11 2 years ago

    "Gabe in disappointing announcement shocker" who'd of thought it. Whatever the announcement, please please include the PS3, if not directly, then through a 3rd party company.

    And I do want Ep 3.... the end of Ep 2 was just the biggest cliff hanger ever !
    Edited by 1 at 07/06/10 @ 16:16

  • towser #12 2 years ago

    @ cw-

    I'm pretty sure Valve bought the team, I could be wrong though... :-)

  • Frybird #13 2 years ago

    Dear Valve,

    our future kids will not believe us if we tell them Half-Life Episode 3 is actually worth the wait.

    Get a move on!

  • George-Roper #14 2 years ago

    I hope it's not the Black Mesa mod. The guys running the forum over there are the whiniest bunch of cunts ive ever had the displeasure of bumping into.

    Every single post asking when this fabled vaporware mod will actually get released, including posts just requesting an update from the 'devs', is beaten down by throngs of ass-kissing fucksticks bleating "Done when its done, done when its done!", or 'devs' who bitch and moan about how they have 'a life as well'.

    The whole thing is a clusterfuck of mismanagement and seemingly absent project management. If you're going to go to all the effort that those clueless dumbfucks have gone to, including creating a dedicated site, putting a presence out and maintaining a forum, don't be surprised that there's so much backlash when you don't deliver, time and time again.
    Edited by 1 at 07/06/10 @ 16:23

  • RoyalBiscuit #15 2 years ago

    He is just trying to make the suprise more surprising.

    It's not ep 3... it's, to give it the full title.

    "The game formally known as Half Life 2 : Episode 3, Half Life 3 : Part 1A"

    Or maybe the cake isn't a lie and there will in fact be cake... for everyone.
    Edited by 2 at 07/06/10 @ 16:21

  • menage #16 2 years ago

    I really loved HL2, ep 1 was meh but ep 2 was awesome, Still, not 4 year waiting for 4 hours of gameplay awesome so they can keep it if it takes any longer.
    Edited by 1 at 07/06/10 @ 16:23

  • Doctor_What #17 2 years ago

    "Newell also dismissed an image bearing the Half-Life logo"

    I read that as "Half-Life Lego" and really perked up for a moment.

  • Transmission89 #18 2 years ago

    I'm crushingly disappointed. It felt like a glimmer of hope when they announced a surprise! I really hope it's not left for dead 3...I do love both games (yes, the second one is valid as a sequel people and well worth the money) but I really want a resolution to this tale. I love the Half Life 2 series!

  • FreakyZoid #19 2 years ago

    > the whiniest bunch of cunts ive ever had the displeasure of bumping into

    Yet here's you whining that they haven't yet finished this mod they're making in their spare time and for no money.

  • Farzlepot #20 2 years ago

    "We are moving towards episodic releases so that we can release new titles far more quickly than we would with a full-scale title."

    I'm paraphrasing a little there, but can y'all remember when they said that, way back 6 years ago?

    I call BS!

  • AphoticCosmos #21 2 years ago

    He didn't say it wasn't Half-life 3.

    Please Gabe. Please for the love of fucking God.

  • andywilkie35 #22 2 years ago

    If its Left 4 Dead 3 then I say this to Valve: You wanna branch out a bit rather than releasing yearly incremental updates for full price.

  • Valver #23 2 years ago

    Counter Strike 2... thats my bet

  • ChaK #24 2 years ago

    HALF LIFE 3 INDEED §

    edit : or I'll get mad at you gabe and crush you with my crowbar while being silent hahaHAHA §1!
    Edited by 1 at 07/06/10 @ 16:42

  • timberwolf #25 2 years ago

    Left 4 dead 3... to be released a month after e3???

  • Britesparc Verified Creative, ITV #26 2 years ago

    At least this gives me time to FINALLY finish Ep Two.

    Let that be a lesson to me: don't buy PC versions! Sigh.

    Anyway, I kinda think they'll have ditched Ep Three in favour of HL3, but then I don't know how Ep Two ends.

  • George-Roper #27 2 years ago

    Yet here's you whining that they haven't yet finished this mod they're making in their spare time and for no money.

    Ahh, here we go. An apologist. Here's a tip for you (and them). If you really are doing a mod in your spare time, for no money and apparently without any kind of project plan, don't go making the mod as public as they have. It just ends up making you look like a bunch of incompetents.

    Also, don't deceive yourself (or others) into thinking they aren't getting anything out of this. They're getting press. Many people have moved into the business after putting mods out. Having said that, I find it hard to believe that anyone would give any of the Black Mesa devs an opportunity now, given what a clusterfuck of release planning this has turned out to be.

  • thomaspower0 #28 2 years ago

    Or a new game.

  • slimspudly #29 2 years ago

    left 4 dead 3 it is then

  • galerian86 #30 2 years ago

    Half Life 3: Prologue.

  • SAMagic #31 2 years ago

    In a dream world: they announce that Half-life 2 Episode 3 will be released in September ... while Half-life 3 is in development and tasks Adrian Shephard with destroying the entirety of the Combine across Earth and then the rest of the known universe.

  • RodHull #32 2 years ago

    @Doctor_what

    Best idea ever.

  • binster #33 2 years ago

    I emailed the man himself asking if it was Half Life related at all. So far, no response...

  • space_ace #34 2 years ago

    /throwing crowbar at gabe*

    *not a metal one

  • Artemus #35 2 years ago

    Episode 3 - officially the new DNF.

  • FreakyZoid #36 2 years ago

    > Here's a tip for you

    Thanks I'll keep that in mind. If you have any other top advice on how to get in to the games industry be sure to let the me of 11 years ago hear it.

  • George-Roper #37 2 years ago

    Thanks I'll keep that in mind. If you have any other top advice on how to get in to the games industry be sure to let the me of 11 years ago hear it.

    11 years? Almost as long as it's taken Black Mesa, so far.

    /badum'tish!

  • drumbaby #38 2 years ago

    Oh, because HL2 was so good!

    /sarcasm

  • kangarootoo #39 2 years ago

    @George Roper

    Christ, talk about getting things back to front. If the sort of rant you delivered in this thread is the sort of comment that egts posted on their forum every time they don't release their free add-on in a time frame that suits you, I'm not surprised they get worn down and tell you shut up.

    So what if they are getting press? They still aren't getting paid, and even if they WERE getting paid, it doesn't mean they owe you anything.


    Maybe I've misunderstood something. Let me clarify, just in case.

    They are making a free mod. They have been making it for a while. They have been telling everyone about it. They are still working on it and won't release it till its done. Some gamers continually hound them because "when its done" somehow doesn't make sense or won't be accepted. When they tire of the same bleating, and they tell you to zip it, you call them whiny cunts.... and then anyone who points out the hypocrisy in your attitude is called an apologist?

    If that is correct, you are out of your mind.

    Lesson one, and its the only lesson you need to learn. They don't owe you a single little tiny thing, so quit your whining.

  • Softie2k #40 2 years ago

    So it's been eleven / twelve years since HL1 and the development on HL2 and Ep1/Ep2. That's what, 30 hours of gameplay? So 3 hours a year roughly. Tied with the fact that they've had the engine for a while doesn't say much for Valve's project handling.

  • X3Entente #41 2 years ago

    the suprise is that its episode 3, despite valve saying beforehand that its not the suprise

  • a8a #42 2 years ago

    I never heard of the mod before this comments thread, and I still think they should have released something in 6 years.

    It's not about them "owing" people anything, the fact is simply that they put themselves into the public eye, quite deliberately, and one of the side effects of hyping up your project is that people are going to be expecting you to, you know, release something.

    So no, there is no entitlement on any side, except for the entitlement of the developers to continue not releasing stuff, and the public to keep airing their opinions about bad project management.

    My prediction - Gabe announces HL3, Black Mesa stays in development. HL3 gets released, Black Mesa announces that theyre switching the engine to the new HL3 engine, and reboot the project. In the process, some internet men get angry.

  • hiddenranbir #43 2 years ago

    Finish the bloody HL story! :(

  • sfp_noodle #44 2 years ago

    I don't want another full Left 4 Dead game. I'll take good dlc, but not a new game just yet. I'm still having fun with the original as well as the sequel and they both offer tonnes of MP fun so not much point in a new addition just yet. We don't want it to become the new COD that's for sure!

  • Melan #45 2 years ago

    about George.
    "The whole thing is a clusterfuck of mismanagement and seemingly absent project management. If you're going to go to all the effort that those clueless dumbfucks have gone to, including creating a dedicated site, putting a presence out and maintaining a forum, don't be surprised that there's so much backlash when you don't deliver, time and time again. "

    YES they made a website. Now they really owe you a game!!! Keep complaining on their forum. It will help keeping them motivated.

  • Farzlepot #46 2 years ago

    Y'all negged #45, but in a way I kinda agree with him. After all, I'm sure we all remember the debacle that was SiN Episodes...

    Not that I've taken a disliking to episodic games of late or anything. Some of my best games were episodes!

  • Kilroy #47 2 years ago

    Hmm, if it indeed had something to do with Black Mesa, Valve might instead announce a new Orange Box (Azure Crate), with Black Mesa (which they have sort of adopted from Raminator and the rest of the Balc Mesa guys), Half-Life 3 (Because I sure as hell won't accept a measly four hours after all these years) and Portal 2.

    No matter what, Valve needs to get a move on with Gordon Freeman, and the guys behind Black Mesa needs to stop acting like Valve and just get it done.

  • KilgoreTroutXL #48 2 years ago

    Maybe it'll be a Defense of the Ancients-type sequel. Would be disappointing as that's not really my thing, but I bet it would still be a solid game after it shipped 1.5 yrs late.

  • devilmyarse #49 2 years ago

    If this is another Left 4 Dead I'm going to letter bomb Valve HQ. What could they possibly add that they didn't add in Left 4 Dead 2?

    If it's not HL3 or Half Life 2: Episode 3; it better be a new IP OR ELSE.

  • Farzlepot #50 2 years ago

    Yo, STKD, the Source engnine was designed to be extensible! I'm sure the next game will look awesome!

    All joking aside, however old Source is, I'm yet to see an engine that can rival it at facial expressions, and I look forward to seeing how they've evolved it in this respect.

  • Xeopuppy #51 2 years ago

    It's got to be Half Life 3, they have been at Ep 3 for al least a couple of years, or maybe Left for Dead 3...I hope not.

  • George-Roper #52 2 years ago

    @kangarootoo

    Christ, talk about getting things back to front. If the sort of rant you delivered in this thread is the sort of comment that egts posted on their forum every time they don't release their free add-on in a time frame that suits you, I'm not surprised they get worn down and tell you shut up. So what if they are getting press? They still aren't getting paid, and even if they WERE getting paid, it doesn't mean they owe you anything.

    Maybe I've misunderstood something. Let me clarify, just in case.

    They are making a free mod. They have been making it for a while. They have been telling everyone about it. They are still working on it and won't release it till its done. Some gamers continually hound them because "when its done" somehow doesn't make sense or won't be accepted. When they tire of the same bleating, and they tell you to zip it, you call them whiny cunts.... and then anyone who points out the hypocrisy in your attitude is called an apologist?

    If that is correct, you are out of your mind.

    Lesson one, and its the only lesson you need to learn. They don't owe you a single little tiny thing, so quit your whining.

    Brilliant! It's the old "They don't owe you anything" line. Like every other developer out there doesn't owe any gamer anything, you mean? So why is it that in this very thread, we have a number of people complaining about HL2 EP3, yet you seem to have completely overlooked it? Why's that then?

    I don't need clarity or to learn any lessons, least of all from a fucking gaming site forum poster. I've many years of development and project planning expertise under my belt, that gives me everything I need to be able to do my job a shitload better than these assclowns. It's a fucking joke, my friend. http://ww w.wired.com/epicenter/2009/12/v...

    What I know, more than anything else is that if you're going to make a project public knowledge, including release dates you'd better have your shit down, be keeping tabs on progress and make sure you keep the public updated on a regular basis. Otherwise you end up with the mess that is Black Mesa.

    Your suggestion that they don't owe anyone anything is so stupid, it's almost beyond words. If I offered you £10 on Friday, then on Friday I didn't give it to you and instead told you you'd get it the following Friday, would you be miffed? If then the following Friday I didn't hand it over again and instead said that i'd give it to you when I felt like it, would you moan? I mean, I don't owe you it do I but I still made the statement that you could have it. If I then just strung you along, you'd be a bit fucked off and rightly so.

    Point is, don't make statements about availability on something, repeatedly miss dates and then issue a blanket statement that its done when its done. At that stage, you're past the point of being immune to criticism, whether you're being paid to do the job or not.
    Edited by 1 at 07/06/10 @ 19:29

  • Caimbeul #53 2 years ago

    Do you know what...I am tired of waiting for Ep3. Not sure I'll bother if it ever gets released

  • smelly #54 2 years ago

    its not ep3.. it's the orange box 2 - ep3, portal 2, etc.

    .. Well that's what i think nehuws :-)

  • yogi #55 2 years ago

    Valve to announce it is dedicating all its resources into producing more hats for TF2. And possibly some scarves.
    Edited by 1 at 07/06/10 @ 19:59

  • mr_pink #56 2 years ago

    Please don't be disappointing us Valve. Either Half Life 3 or another single-player, story-based game. Anything else will most likely be a let-down...

  • Ged42 #57 2 years ago

    If they reveal the suprise is just some Portal 2 joke Cake thing and not Half Life 3, they're going to get linched by the fanboys.

  • JJrabbit #58 2 years ago

    You call that a crowbar? This is a crowbar

  • MerricK #59 2 years ago

    this surprise is simply going to be "counterstrike source beta" going public and free to download.

    http://store.s teampowered.com/app/260/

  • smelly #60 2 years ago

    L4D3

  • Sunyavadin #61 2 years ago

    "I'm glad it's not Episode 3. The Valve fanboys are the whiniest bunch of cunts ive ever had the displeasure of bumping into.

    Every single news article asking when this fabled vaporware "Episode" will actually get released, including posts just requesting an update from the 'devs', is beaten down by throngs of ass-kissing fucksticks bleating "Done when its done, done when its done!", or 'devs' who bitch and moan about how "Our E3 announcement is not Episode 3".

    The whole thing is a clusterfuck of mismanagement and seemingly absent project management. If you're going to go to all the effort that those clueless dumbfucks have gone to, including creating a dedicated site, putting a presence out and maintaining a forum, don't be surprised that there's so much backlash when you don't deliver, time and time again."

    Fixed it for ya.
    Edited by 1 at 07/06/10 @ 21:40

  • the_mtfr #62 2 years ago

    Hopefully it's the Steam for Linux announcement touted over at Phoronix.com as confirmed by their sources...

  • Iain815 #63 2 years ago

    Well It fucking better be something to do with Half-Life!

  • George-Roper #64 2 years ago

    @Sunyavadin

    Well, except for the fact that EP3 hasn't been in development for 6 years and has at no point had a release date missed...on multiple occasions...and then an announcement that 'Its done when its done'.

    So really, when all's said and done you didn't fix anything. But thanks for the effort!

  • smelly #65 2 years ago

    sheesh mr roper - get over yourself.. it's only a game.

  • Aradiel #66 2 years ago

    For christ's sake...

    There better be some kind of HL2E3 news, even if it isn't the surprise.

  • DirtiSnatch #67 2 years ago

    Just read the comments and had to sign up to laugh at the complainers.... Valve isnt some fly by night studio they are wedged in deep, and anyone suggesting poor project management on Valves part clearly does not have a clue.They are the fucking staple of PC gaming and the platform that is steam is their carrier. They are Valve you are a nobody so stfu and find something else to take up your oh so precious time. I owe Valve some of my most memorable gaming moments and im sure alot of you do aswell. I wouldnt be suprised if it is Orange Box two with Black Mesa Project, Portal 2 and Ep. 3. Either way I doubt the doubters could program their mum and dads washing machine, nevermind utilise an Engine as diverse and intricate as source, to recreate one of the all time greatest fps games ever( B.M.P). So stop acting like you know best cos you dont, hence your £7.50 an hour job you little punk.

    And george your little analagy about £10 doesnt cut it. We're not talking about lending a tenner out of your back pocket (which is fuck all) we're talking about the development and publication of a program thats has had to be designed, created, tested, tested ,tested and tested some more. Im guessing the programming team isnt exactly massive and look how many years it took Remedy to bang out Alan Wake.... And they are mega experienced and had a giant budget. If Valve did take an interest they may have told the Dev team behind Black Mesa to wait so they could release it alongside ep3 and Portal 2? Why are you so offended that they lied to you about the release date anyway? Your attitude seems completely counter-productive and not typical of someone who was successful in the Gaming industry. Or were you an Epic Fail

  • Bennicus #68 2 years ago

    George, if you get this worked up about every indie game project that's announced with nice concept art and then never released you must have a helluva time on the ole internet eh? Don't forget to post at the Infinity:Quest for Earth forums on your way out.

  • mkreku #69 2 years ago

    I hope it's a "we're gonna start releasing more than one game per five years from now on!" statement.

  • TeaFiend #70 2 years ago

    IF Valve had taken an interest in that mod they would have likely done more. Like give them jobs. See Portal.

  • Subi #71 2 years ago

    It's actually an announcement that they've fixed all the bugs that they introduced into the PC engine with the Mac release last week :)

  • hiddenranbir #72 2 years ago

    They are making a free mod.

    Doesn't matter if it is free, it isn't about 'owing' anyone anything, it is about how they've they've continually missed their own deadlines. They lack organisation, leadership.

    Take into comparison Kael for his Civ 4 mod? He had procedure, long term schedules which he kept to as close to as possible and he continually built and progressed on his mod. Hell; and he did he starting out with no programming know-how at all. It is no surprise he's gone now to make a commercial game with great support.

    These sort of work ethics that is being demonstrated doesn't just sharply change if money is involved.

    Edited by 1 at 08/06/10 @ 09:30

  • kangarootoo #73 2 years ago

    @George Roper

    "Brilliant! It's the old "They don't owe you anything" line. Like every other developer out there doesn't owe any gamer anything, you mean? So why is it that in this very thread, we have a number of people complaining about HL2 EP3, yet you seem to have completely overlooked it? Why's that then?"

    Its an old line because its stood the test of time, and in this case (mainly because of your deeply ironic "whiniest cunts" comment it applies wholeheartedly).

    As for whether no dev owes any gamers anything ever, well I always get nervy around the word "ever". Its a strawman term and I'm not much interested in responding to it. In THIS case, the devs of BM can take as long as they damn like. Its their time and their money, you aren't an investor up front, so you don't get to call the sahots on them. And they certainly don't deserve the names you call them, just because you are impatient. And I've no doubt that everyso often they will frustratedly write "oh shuuutt uuuuuup" when some nobber gives them hassle on their forum for the 1500th time, like some bored kid in the back seat of his parents car on his way to Alton Towers.


    In answer to your other question, the HL2 EP3 complainers didn't go so far as to call Valve the whiniest bunch of cunts they have ever known, but if it makes you feel better I think everyone filling every Valve thread with the same old "just make Ep3" comments should give it a rest. Their saving grace is at least they are polite about it.


    "What I know, more than anything else..."

    Well that speaks volumes.


    "I've many years of development and project planning expertise under my belt"

    I'm not much interested in your CV, just like you are no doubt not remotely interested in mine. Its your attitude that is on display here. Regardless of how good you apparently are at your job, your venom toward the devs of BM is frankly bizarre.


    "If I offered you £10 on Friday, then on Friday I didn't give it to you and instead told you you'd get it the following Friday, would you be miffed?"

    That is the most freakish example I've ever read. Perhaps if you offered me £10 and then kept stalling, I might be miffed, but if I started verbally abusing you people would think I'd gone mad.

    A passerby might ask what I was annoyed about, and I'd reply "well he said he would GIVE me £10, for nothing, for free, and then he didn't". The passerby might then ask "what, you lent him £10 and he won't return it?". And I would reply, "no, he doesn't owe me £10, he just said he would GIVE me £10... and now he taking too long to give me that £10, and I'm not happy about it". And the passerby would give me a puxxled look and respond "Stop whining you ridiculous child. He doen't owe you £10, so you have nothing to complain about". And they would be RIGHT on the money.



    Anyway, getting into the nitty gritty with someone who is bonkers is always a bit tiring. Delusions are hard to shatter.

    The long and short of it is that you really genuinely shouldn't care so much that BM is taking so long. Its an indie project, unfunded, and with all your years of expertise in project planning you SHOULD understand the sorts of hurdles that can present themselves. ESPECIALLY the kind of hurdles that can hold up and UNFUNDED project. If you really think that these guys, who are taking of their own time, should be dancing to your tune instead of their own, you have a complex of some sort (the name of which I can't pin down). Regardless of any generalisms you might make, laden heavily with the use of the word "ever", THESE guys genuinely don't owe you a single red cent or a second of their time. They told you it will be ready when its ready, so suck it up and act like an adult about it.
    Edited by 1 at 08/06/10 @ 09:33

  • kangarootoo #74 2 years ago

    @hiddenranbir

    "They lack organisation, leadership."

    That may be true, but what exactly has that got to do with us? Does their potential lack of organisation really deserve the sort of venemous condemnation GR was laying down at the start of the thread? Does that level of resentment not strike you as remotely weird?

  • hiddenranbir #75 2 years ago

    They deserve some stick for setting dates and then callously missing them. I mean, come on.

    Speaking of mods, I've a few in pipeline, some since 1998 (For Civ 2). Keep your eyes peeled people, Summer 2010!
    Edited by 2 at 08/06/10 @ 09:48

  • kangarootoo #76 2 years ago

    @hiddenranbir

    I'm kind of of the mind that an indie unfunded team trying to release content deserve encouragement rather than stick. So what if things don't go swimmingly and to a time frame that suits us, do we really think that calling them names is going to "spur them on"?

    Is that the way some of us would deal with our employees I wonder? All stick and no carrot? Thats not the way I work.

    Edit: good luck with your mods, take as long as you need.
    Edited by 1 at 08/06/10 @ 09:52

  • IronCladChicken #77 2 years ago

    Given how strong the storyline in the Half-Life series is - Why would anyone want Valve to drop HL2 ep3 and just jump straight into HL3?

  • metalangel #78 2 years ago

    My AGI adventure game that I started in 2004 will be done any day now. Which is to say it's maybe a third complete and I've done nothing since 2004. But you have no right to call me a shiftless do-nothing! In fact, just for that I'll continue to not release my magnum opus in Stunt Island that I've been sitting on since 1999. (on topic, I want a retail release of BM Source when the time comes. And no more Left4Shit until Ep3 comes out.)

  • Ryboy #79 2 years ago

    Left 4 dead 3. Fuck off please.

    Half life 3. Yessiree!

  • gorf #80 2 years ago

    Oh dear another thread thats degenerated into mindless rants followed by the obligatory retorts of self appointed arbiters of reason .....yawn

  • steviepunk #81 2 years ago

    Is it not odd that every news site is putting up articles that more or less say, "Gabe say's it isn't Ep3, so the surprise isn't Half Life related", yet hardly any websites are even acknowledging the possibility of jumping straight HL3?

    To me this presents two possibilities:
    1. The next game is HL3, but due to NDAs the major games press are not yet allowed to talk about it (though this doesn't necessarily mean it will be at E3)
    2. The games press know for sure that Ep3 is going to be the next game so don't bother fueling rumours of HL3 (though I don't see why someone wouldn't just tell us then since they must be able to talk about an already announced game to some degree)

  • Softie2k #82 2 years ago

    If he's said it won't be EP3 then it's not going to be HL3...

    It's seriously frustrating as a consumer and big fan of the franchise to wait so long for what are basically updated maps in episodic format. The engine is modified slightly, but it's essentially the same. Trouble is, when they release EP3, you know you'll be waiting at least another 5 years for a full HL3.

    Roll on 2015!

  • FortysixterUK #83 2 years ago

    No ep3 ? I reckon they have given up. I think people have simply lost interest in this franchise because its taken so long to come out.....unless they do something real clever, like make portal 2 the 3rd episode, then I don't really see ep3 happening.

  • Sunyavadin #84 2 years ago

    To clarify - I have nothing against Valve. I honestly think the industry would benefit massively in terms of innovation if MORE publishers had a dev team that existed purely for the function of "Mucking about with fun shit and having a laugh". It's just that it comes across as a bit slapdash and unprofessional as they behave like they have some form of development ADD, jumping onto the latest shiny thing while being incapable of properly carrying out long term plans as they originally intended (See Half Life 3, and the original announcement for HL2 that with an Episodic format they could release episodes more frequently than a full game's dev cycle.)

  • Kilroy #85 2 years ago

    Well, if internet rumours are correct, then Ep 3 might have morphed into HL3, in which case Newell is right. Episode 3 will not be showcased (But HL3 will, natch).

  • cairbre1977 #86 2 years ago

    Counter strike 2 would be great. Please Valve.

  • mr_pink #87 2 years ago

    Rumor: Valve’s E3 surprise is Source Engine 2
    http://ww w.vg247.com/2010/06/08/rumor-va...

    Oh please be true.
    Edited by 1 at 08/06/10 @ 23:11

  • nort0672 #88 6 months ago

    FUUU I CAN'T WAIT ANY LONGER
    NORT0672 Suicided