Universe at War: Earth Assault Comments by Dan Whitehead

Oh dear.

I wanted this to be good...battle for middle earth had similar frame rate issues....I guess I'll be letting it pass me by :(

Ouch!

What's the reason for the slowdown? I'm guessing severe RAM limitations?

Shame, I'd like a good RTS on the 360.

The LOTR one had a similar problem - when things got busy things got really, REALLY slow.

that is very dissapointing...

If i want shite i think i had better wait for the new 50cent game.

Compare Halo 3 'professionals' with competitive Quake3/4 players then re-write that opening paragraph, it makes my cry inside. :[

Demo was boring.

It is a good game and players who purchased it have loved it. Player reviewers on gamespot have been giving this 8-9s. Still the console will NEVER beat the PC for RTS/FPS gaming

lawd, get over yourself butler

Shooters are still crap on console's compared to the PC. Only the wii comes anywhere close to the controls of a mouse and keyboard. Don't delude yourself that FPS games are as good on a console, especially when you play online.

Let's turn this into a PC vs Console thread shall we. For the billionth time.

The slowdown issues are hardly caused by the hardware I think. Just bad porting.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who disagreed with that first paragraph.

I cannot fathom why anyone would want to use a joypad over a keyboard and mouse. The best joypad FPS experience I've ever had was on the N64 with Goldeneye and Perfect Dark in the 1.2 Solitaire configuration.

I can't get used to dual analog sticks, and I don't feel an analog stick is necessary for movement either. I liked the 4 C movement buttons on the N64 pad and wish they'd bring that design back. Unfortnately to me, dual analog is as intuitive as rubbing my tummy while patting my head.

Oh and shit game.

FPS controls on a console are OK, but nowhere good enough to be compared to a mouse and keyboard. If it was that good, why don't proffesional players use a joypad.

Now for RTS games, lets see what happens with that halo rts game.

@butler`+ @jmctavish + @viper_h

Have you guys nothing better to do? That discussion IS a collosal waste of time...

"Shooters are still crap on console's compared to the PC. Only the wii comes anywhere close to the controls of a mouse and keyboard. Don't delude yourself that FPS games are as good on a console, especially when you play online."

Have no delusions, ALL consoles fail to approach the pixel perfect controls of the pc.

I don't like keyboards to play, and I have no intention of becoming a "pro gamer", as I already have a profession. Anyway, it's a matter of taste, I guess. I also can't stand "office-desk" gaming anymore.

"any claim that mouse and keyboard are better than joypad is now down to personal preference rather than technical truth"

Hilariously wrong. A decent player with keyboard and mouse would destroy someone using a joypad in a FPS and IIRC on Halo 2 it's been demonstrated time and again.

Well made single player FPSs on consoles are fine. The best ones take into account the limitations of a game pad. It's online where they go to shit usually.

every game thread ever on here just turns into either

PS3 vs 360
PC vs 360
PS3 vs PC

etcetcetc
but this game doesn't look great, i want a RTS on my xbox and i'm tempted by C+C but i'm gonna wait till something really catches my eye :)

The last thing I want to do after a day in the office is get behind a PC again. Gives my arm the cramps.

I'm not surprised by this review as IGN berated the game for the same reasons as EG only they gave it a 6.

Hmm, this game uses a beefed-up Star Wars: Empire at War engine and it still lags on a Xbox360? That's pretty poor.

The game is fun, it just has framerate issues. The control scheme is sublime.

Playing online is a blast. The factions are all really unique & interesting, and it throws out the whole tank rush mentality that ruined C&C3 for me.

According to the devs, a big patch is on the way to help with performance.

If you like RTS's and don't have an up to date PC, I recommend at least renting it. I bought it and don't regret it one bit.

japstersam, this pathetic "war" started when 360 dared to have a litle success..., imho. Did you ever hear such fuss in the XBox 180 era ?

supreme commander is going to own console RTSs

I have my PC in my little study room, and use that mainly for work. I have my 360 in my lounge, hooked up to a nice HDTV with a good amp and speakers. There's no way I'd want (at best) a wireless keyboard and mouse to play games on my TV. Alot of people like an 'entertainment system' (and I use that in the broadest sense of the word) that is in their living room. They can get friends and family round, and have a bit of a laugh playing the console of their choice.

How's them apples, PC lovers?

Where is the ProEvoWii review?

Since when did more accurate controls = best?

Personally, I far prefer playing FPS games on consoles, just because it isn't as fast or as accurate doesn't make it any less enjoyable. Come on, I know you elitest PC guys aren't really that shallow. The same goes for RTS games, I found C&C3 to be very enjoyable on the 360 and may I add that it didn't suffer from any slow down or frame rate issues. The fact you guys on the PC can play it with a slightly more accurate control system really doesn't bother me.

So much so, in fact, that any claim that mouse and keyboard are better than joypad is now down to personal preference rather than technical truth.

Ha.

Criticism of that statement probably means nothing coming from me though.

I'm such a snob that I refuse to acknowledge anything after Quakeworld as being worthwhile.

BUT IT'S TRUE.

/runs

I do apreciate that a gamepad is not comparable to a keyboard! Having a keyboard in front of me during work hours is more than enough.

Although, and unfortunatly, I was born way before Quake came out.

"thanks to the current educational standards and lack of any drive in kids these days, incapable of even turning on a PC without dribbling or having a seizure."

Actually they taught 'Snobby PC Gamer Twat 101' in our school; education is not a valid excuse for the console-using subhumans. Those idiots probably couldn't handle the incredibly simple task of researching video cards, scouring the net to find a good one under £300, disassembling the PC case, installing the video card, installing the drivers, patching the game to be compatible with those drivers, then, once the game crashes to the desktop every 30 seconds, downloading the latest video card drivers that released while the box was sitting on the shelf at the warehouse. Fucking morons.

Well.. it'd pretty easy to test the claim in the opening paragraph now when most new PC shooters supports the xbox 360 gamepad. I wouldn't bet any money on the gamepad coming out on top though.

It continues to surprise me why PC gamers want console gamers to start to use computers for gaming. Just the other day this sharpfishdude wanted to put a PC in my living room, and started to get nasty...

I say, let it go.

"PC in the hands of a reasonably intelligent individual will never crash to desktop"

April fools was yesterday. I did fall for it though, you got me.

I'm posting this from an abacus.

FluffyTucker, that's good. And I like to be called a kid, thx!. Too bad it's only possible via internet...
:)

"PC in the hands of a reasonably intelligent individual will never crash to desktop"
Mainframes now have GUI's ? and play games ? wow!

"I'm shocked you managed to type that out and hit "submit" before the PC crashed to desktop."

Me too! I'm glad we're finally seeing eye to eye.

I accept your apology.

Let's celebrate by playing some Smash Brothers. Don't worry, those other players in the room is perfectly normal. Just grab one of the button-pressy hand-holdy things.

I'm actually a yank, I just visit EG because your editors are much wittier than ours, and your user comments much more fun, as evidenced by our little discourse here.

I'm more green with envy over Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland.

Universe at War: Earth Assault is a fun game.

Well, my PC has certainly crashed less in the last 2 or 3 years than my DS froze, for example.

/shrugs

RTS games without a mouse dont make sense. You need a fast and more importantly _efficient_ pointing system.

PC vs 360? Who gives a shit? I mean...really?

+1 for first paragraph outrage. Sure you can use a pad if you want, provided the game is designed for it; you can just use a mouse better. I have nothing against consoles, but I do hate it when people claim they are as good as PCs for sorts of games that evolved on PC hardware.

JSPOOLElol

No skill in mouse aiming? You've clearly never played online PC FPS then. You're so used to pads that you don't even realise that console FPS games are massively simplified for their benefit. Since "The Games Industry" in its infinite avarice, sorry, wisdom, has decided that FPS works on consoles and made most FPSs multiformat, any given multiformat game on PC has been a lot easier; the level design, feel of the controls and enemy AI and animations are all designed to allow for the limitations of pads.

Shadowrun proves nothing. It is autoaimed to hell and has huge shot dispersion cones; it cripples most of the PC's advantages to allow for pad players. Under such circumstances I expect DS controls would probably do just as well. Quake III on the DC, which apparently some PC players could play online against console players, did not suffer this. DC players were, by all accounts, handed their arses in all cases.

RTS can work on consoles, sure. This is not one that does. And I bet you Endwar ends up on PC too.

Not as good as viking

you all should play that.....

Can the PC weenies stop crying about the first paragraph now please? I'm sure you have yet more hardware upgrades to attend to.

Considering that the intro was obvious flamebait it's not surprising that it turned into PC vs console debate. It was probably the authors intention.