Uncharted 2 voted best game of E3 Comments by Robert Purchese

no surprise uncharted was the best. It just looks amazing.

You can't have a fanboy argument about Uncharted 2.

Simply the best graphics this side of Crysis.

Uncharted did have the biggest wow factor. It did look amazing

Its true the uncharted video did look nice :)

Best PC game being a prerendered trailer.

That's quite something.

I thought journalists/bloggers hated bullshots. Seems no longer the case.

Naughty Dog are truly world-class developers. Congratulations to them on a deserved win.

Really looking forward to Uncharted 2

I'll be honest, I didn't even know it had a showing at E3. Not my personal choice, but I could see their reasoning fine. It does look good.

"Best PC game being a prerendered trailer.

That's quite something. "

The E3 judges saw the behind-doors demo of TOR, the public saw the CGI trailer.

Seeing as just about every critic who watched the demo except EG [which was still pretty positive] has been positively glowing about TOR, it doesn't surprise me that it won best PC game. Besides, there wasn't exactly a lot of competition, Crysis 2 wasn't being shown and there were only a handful of other major PC titles at E3.

I guess I'm still the only one who's more excited about the PS3 motion controller than Natal...

I dont think so Zomoniac. I just think Natal has captured the imagination of a lot of people at the moment.

@Zomoniac

Well, a lot of us are dubious about Natal's viability (I'm with Miyamoto and others on the absolute neccessity of some kind of button/trigger control), but I guess time will tell.

Sony's device seems to have more immediate practicality, but as its not a great deal different to Motion+, its hard to get really excited about it.

@ Zomoniac,

Natal was simply a bit more different than Sony's wand from Nintendo's offering, I'm hopeful that both will be great in their own way, but Natal got a bit more of a buzz after it's E3 showing by virtue of it being the first to be shown at E3. Natal is also potentially more ambitious, but it remains to be seen whether it works as well as it is said to by the PR guys, hence there is naturally more speculation about it. Not raining on the wand's parade here, just saying that Natal had a few PR advantages after E3, and that it innately looks more futuristic than the wand which just seemed to be a refinement of Eyetoy mixed up with the Wiimote.

Agree that Uncharted 2 looks amazing - just hope they dont fuck it up with the new multiplayer elements...

Have just finished the first one recently and it is definitely one of my gaming highlights of the last 12 months. Am hoping for great things from the sequel.

The Sony device together with the camera gives you most of the things that the Wii gives you but also some of the things that Natal gives you. Very much in the middle.

- Directional microphone array.
- Head/Face tracking via camera.
- Motion detection via camera, albeit only on the 2d plane with no depth perception.
- Controller that gives you absolute position (as long as the glowing sphere isn't blocked by something, just like the Wiimote and Natal) and rotation in space.
- Controller also has rumble, buttons and an analogue stick (not confirmed though).

Sony's device seems to have more immediate practicality, but as its not a great deal different to Motion+, its hard to get really excited about it.

I keep seeing people saying this, and I don't get that at all. Motion+, AFAICT, just means the remote knows better which way it is facing, to increase accuracy a bit. I'm pretty sure it doesn't feature absolute sub-millimetre precision accuracy within all dimensions like PS3MC does. Also, the pointing aspects only work within direct line of sight of the sensor bar, which limits the Wii remote. For example, that little bit of the PS3MC tech demo where he has the torch, and can lean in and shine it at any angle, behind objects on the screen, I'm pretty sure wouldn't be possible on Wii, since unless you're pointing the front of the remote at the sensor bar it doesn't have any idea how far away it is from the screen, which to me restricts it a lot. PS3MC seems to be the first motion controller that knows exactly where it is at all times, which opens up many more possibilities.

Zomoniac: Well the wiimote can know how far from the screen it is by calculating the distance between the IR leds that it is detecting. Just the opposite of what the PS3 controller is doing.

"Incidently, Eurogamer disagrees"... with a panel made up of editors from 28 American videogame websites and magazines!

Just shows how out of touch this pathetic site is.

@DaemonB

Why are you even here if this site is so pathetic!?

Comedy value from reviews and a lot of the forumites are actually very nice and helpful people. Plus ive met a few nice forum heads on line who frequent here.

My criticism is the site, not its users who I think are a bloody helpful / nice bunch.

It's so funny how opinions about Americans change in a matter of an article. Roll on one that says they dig Halo, and we'll do a fancy 180.

Where's the Super Mario Brothers love?!

Well done naughty dog! Right up there with infinity ward as top class developers.

I must say I agree with the 28 Americans more than I do with Eurogamer. New Super Mario Bros?! Geez.

IMHO a lot of Natal's potential is going to be based on how well it can tell what your fingers are doing. Ducking (imagine if you had to do a squat thrust every time you wanted to duck behind cover in Gears) will get real old real quick for all but the most masochistic / fit. Facial recognition again I think could make some pretty damn impressive tech demos but again will be of limited usefulness when it comes down to it.

For the most part with Natal, once the novelty wears off, you're going to be wanting to be sat on the sofa and having your hands and fingers do most of the work. How well it copes with your fingers, which are relatively small and fiddly (and, from the single point of view of a camera or two stuck on top of the telly, constantly blocking each other from view) is going to play a large part in how well Natal does.

New Super Mario Bros? LOLZ!

It'll sell at least 10 times more than Uncharted 2. And all those tens of millions of customers will love it.

I am curious how many publishers will put these 'awards' on the box cover again. Even a proper review score looks dirty enough already.

Hopefully we still get to see more articles on some of these games, I can understand EG wants to spread its E3 content but it's been two weeks now since the show and still no SupCom 2 preview even though several other major sites gathered enough intel for a preview after Chris Taylor's presentation of that game. Not to mention Hearts of Iron III, East India Company or Disciples III. Where is the strategy here? :)

Uncharted 2 looked amazing at E3, so I think it deserved it. Personally Im not a fan of Mario and was surprised EG gave that game of show.. but still different tastes etc.

With regards to Natal, MS are certainly winning the PR war on that front, they are getting so much more column inches than both Nintendo and Sony. So credit where its due, the question is can they release it with critical acclaim and good games. I think this is less likely because we have all seen the Wii, and for many the gloss of that will affect how people see Natal.

If Natal had been released before the Wii, I am pretty certain that MS would now be leading the console sales, but many people have played the wii, got bored and realised actually I dont want to be jumping around for 10, 15, 30 minutes or more. This will affect sales of Natal no doubt... the question is by how much.

I think the EG pick was certainly not bad. The 2 new Wii Mario games looked brilliant and with oodles of gameplay. Platforming : refined.

It's not exactly 'the year of the PS3' but this might help silence the people who keep on banging on insisting that Sony's machine has no real games. I thought Sony had a good show this year, and this tops that off.

Like others above, I see more gaming applications for the wand than natal, partly because I've got a small living room and don't have space to perform a roundhouse on every enemy, but more because there are lots of difficult questions that I don't think the natal announcement addressed. Still, it's done MS a lot of good in terms of coverage. The wand is an evolution of tech that I played with at a Game On exhibition with the EyeToy many years ago. TBH, I'm surprised it's taken so long to come around to us, but that also explains a little why it's not made such an impact.

IMHO it's rather sad (or a sign of getting old, which is sad in it's own way) that gamers these days seem to only appreciate generic HD 3rd and 1st person shooters.

What's wrong with a game that's all about gameplay and doesn't bore you with a poor and uninteresting story?

The new super mario bros game for wii has no online support and looks directed at the casual market... a real shame..........

Uncharted 2 looks brilliant. But I have to agree with Eurogamer, 4 player Mario, that is any right minded gamers Mecca.

Rightfully so. The game looks great. I'm glad a real game was voted best of show as opposed to the casual stuff that is becoming way too common in the industry today.

I think both NSMB and Uncharted look brilliant.

I must be mental.

Some of the little subtle effects (such as the wet cloths) Uncharted has other games are still playing catchup in my opinion and this sequel looks set to surpass that - the vistas observable in the E3 videos were breathtaking and very much hope the gameplay matches the visual look.

Wow.. look at the backlash against the "Mario-lovers". This karma system is craaaazy.

/awaits backlash

Well I concur with that list more than I did EG's! Out of all the great games shown at E3, they just had to choose a retro 2D game as the Best of the Show! OK, fair dos, it's their choice but nevertheless I found it an odd one when there was so much quality on show elsewhere. Ah well...

Uncharted 2 looks terrific, I'm very excited about playing that later on this year, but I'm surprised that God of War III wasn't mentioned in there or Last Guardian, those for me look very, very interesting. God of War III is probably the game I'm most excited about playing but it's nine months away at least. :(

The PS3 had a very strong E3 I felt, possibly the strongest to date, although the 360 wasn't too far behind. Alan Wake and Forza 3 look great so I'm really looking forward to those, and Natal looks intriguing.

The disappointment for me was the Wii. The announcement of a new Mario and Zelda was welcome but predictable and are no doubt both years away so it still leaves 2009 as a disappointing year for Wii games for me. I can't say I'm excited about a new 2D Mario game though as you can imagine from the opening paragraph of my post. Klonoa was very nice (and cheap!) but if I have to wait a year between quality game releases then I may as well sell my Wii now and buy it three years down the line when there's three or four decent games for it!!! :P

Is CountFapula around? Just wondering whether he still considers Uncharted a poor man's Tomb Raider, and what he would make of his beloved Americans voting Uncharted 2 game of the show...

Anyway, good results mostly, I s'pose. It will be interesting to see more demonstrations of Natal over the next 12 months or so, as I am still sceptical of it's potential beyond an advanced version of EyeToy. Ideally I would like KotOR 3 with some sort of online co-op, but I'm hoping TOR is good enough to encourage me to delve into the world of MMOs.

Uncharted 2 is looking unbelievable. It deserved to win.

"I think both NSMB and Uncharted look brilliant."

True. I've got nothing against Uncharted. Loved the first game, one of the best on PS3 so far IMO. But I'm a bit disappointed that the critics seem to favour eye candy over gameplay TBH.

Uncharted 2 quite possibly deserved it but my pick would have been The Last Guardian. Can't wait for either of them.

Les - "But I'm a bit disappointed that the critics seem to favour eye candy over gameplay TBH."

Have you even played the first game? It has superb gameplay!

Oh, and I see Fapula is hovering around here but not posting, hence the last few comments looking forward to Uncharted 2 have got negative feedback.

I didn't see the Last Guardian trailer until well after E3 (last week in fact) but it blew me away when I did, particularly as I didn't initially realise that it wasn't pre-rendered but using in-game assets. I'm not sure what the game is about exactly but if it's half as good as Shadow of the Colossus on the PS2 then it'll be stunning and supremely atmospheric. Looks really gorgeous too. It's great to see developers getting to grips with the PS3 hardware and producing visuals that I didn't think were possible on that platform given it's dated graphics chip.