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UK charts: World at War sees off Lara Comments by Robert Purchese

25 November, 2008

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the_dudefather
25/11/08 @ 09:20
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the wii is clawing its way back up the tower

DanWhitehead
25/11/08 @ 09:24
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Hopefully this will lead to a major rethink at all the major publishers about spreading their games more evenly throughout the year. Hollywood had a similar crunch a few years ago, with too many movies crammed into June and July. Movies that should have been big hits just got lost in the crunch, so now you're as likely to see a big blockbuster release in early May, August, September or even December.
skillian
25/11/08 @ 09:30
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Hopefully this will lead to a major rethink at all the major publishers about spreading their games more evenly throughout the year.

Don't get your hopes up too much.
captainrentboy
25/11/08 @ 09:34
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Still haven't tried Left for Dead, but I haven't seen a title being bought and then traded in as rapidly as I have that one, and not just once, we had like 20 or so traded back in over the weekend:/ I guess it's not for everyone huh?
I thought the new Lara would have done a lil better too.
I'm just glad I can finally take a breather, there are no titles being released over the next couple of months that I fancy buying, so I can put my money towards things like food, and paying the rent...
Kyledanutmeg
25/11/08 @ 09:34
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yea its annying how about 20 games came out at once at these times as well lol but oh well
Moonprince
25/11/08 @ 09:37
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"Don't get your hopes up too much."

They're aware of it (some of them at least) so there's a chance...
Arwin
25/11/08 @ 09:39
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I was hoping to buy Loco Roco 2 off the PSN store, but so far I've only seen the demo up there (I'm in the Netherlands though).

Your right, it's weird that TR did better on PS3 - I'd initially have thought that Uncharted would have gotten in the way of Lara, but maybe it's the other way around and more people who like TR type of games have bought PS3s because of Uncharted.

Or maybe Legend sold a lot on 360 and people who played that didn't want to get another Tomb Raider game, because they already have one ...

Maybe gamesindustry.biz can figure that one out. ;)
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25/11/08 @ 09:40
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"Guess that exclusive DLC isn't much of an enticement. "

A lot more 360 games in the top 40 list (14 vs 6) so I guess 360 owners are having to spread their $$$ love a lot thinner. Looks like Lara lost out ;)
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Dizzy
25/11/08 @ 09:46
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I think this says it all about Midway:

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php
miiiguel
25/11/08 @ 09:46
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"Guess that exclusive DLC isn't much of an enticement. "
Games like NFS; PES; and other oldies are always going to sell more on the oldest brand this gen (in Europe, check US charts...).
tonyferrino
25/11/08 @ 09:59
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So, as someone who wants to give Left 4 Dead a go, should I wait a week or two? It seems like there will be some discounts quite soon. Same with MK v DC. I expect COD:WaW will keep its trade-in value quite well though.
trebell
25/11/08 @ 10:03
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Too many games making to many good games flop. shame.
Zomoniac
25/11/08 @ 10:07
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Perhaps Rock Band 2 would've featured had they sent some copies? The reasonably large Gamestation my girlfriend works at got a whole 3 copies, all of which were reserved by staff and/or staff's boyfriends.
Zomoniac
25/11/08 @ 10:12
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Wrath Of The Lich King must be a record fast faller. 2nd to 34th in a week??
CapnCloudchaser
25/11/08 @ 10:13
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Back to normal then?
drumbaby
25/11/08 @ 10:14
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"Or maybe Legend sold a lot on 360 and people who played that didn't want to get another Tomb Raider game, because they already have one ... "

That was my feeling. PS3 owners must have been waiting for a next gen' TR...in HD that is. Xbox 360 owners have already had two such TR games.
captainrentboy
25/11/08 @ 10:15
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We haven't had a single copy of Lich King in stock since launch weekend, that could be an issue too I guess.
Madafunkola
25/11/08 @ 10:22
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Mirrors Edge did pathetically too (about 14 last week or something stupid).
Seems people won't stretch their credit crunch £/€'s to new IP's. So now they will have to stop complaining when next "holiday season" all we get is NFS Extremeground Wanted, FIFA2010, FranchiseX, Francise Simulator SUper.....
jebus
25/11/08 @ 10:34
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lavalant
25-Nov-08 09:55:47

Left 4 dead is very very short and runs on a dated game engine, it should have been priced as a budget title, but as it probably cost 10p to make Valve are probably very chuffed.

That's quite ill informed. It's primarily a MP game and as such longevity is infinate, the engine is fine for purpose and it probably had a fairly large budget.
The real reason that it is only 15 in the chart I imagine is becasue most of the sales are through Steam on PC as who the hell shops for games on the High Street these days? Only idiots and parents.
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25/11/08 @ 10:34
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I don't care about this list anymore. It's filled with Christmas people buying Christmas crap for little Johny and Auntie Sue.


Widge
25/11/08 @ 10:37
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The thing is, should Left4Dead cost much more than something like Portal or CounterStrike:Source or Day Of Defeat:Source, I say no. Certainly on PC.
MrChuckles
25/11/08 @ 10:41
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I wonder if you include 2nd hand sales, who would be winning then?
HolyJebus
25/11/08 @ 10:47
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For an industry that is so up in arms about the second hand business they really are not helping their cause by releasing so many games at the same time. This is definitely going to encourage people to pick up second hand games like L4D and Mirrors Edge after they pick up others at full price first. If these games were released a few months ago I'm sure more people would buy them new.
jebus
25/11/08 @ 10:48
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lavalant
25-Nov-08 10:41:25 @jebus, It's still a budget title, MP or otherwise and should have retailed at £19.99, but you're right, those sales will mainly reflect 360 sales as PC sales would have been through steam.


Yeah maybe that's true, my point was really only about the longevity of the game. I can see myself still playing it long after the campaign has been finished - which if you wanted to could be played through in an evening on easy.
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25/11/08 @ 10:48
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On a purely financial level, releasing lots of games at the same time is good for the consumer. Most people won’t have the time to play all the games they want on release and so by the time they do they will be cheaper.

For example games that I will buy, but haven’t yet like Fable 2, Far Cry 2, Dead Space and Midnight Club LA have already come down in price and will probably drop more by the time that I do.
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Widge
25/11/08 @ 10:48
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I probably would have bought a big fat load more games if they hadn't all been released in the one month.
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25/11/08 @ 10:54
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GAME totally messed up my Tomb Raider Underworld PC order and only sent it finally last night... at 5:15pm... so as expected it didn't arrive in this morning's post but should arrive tomorrow, almost a week late. As such, my copy isn't included in those charts! :(
the_dudefather
25/11/08 @ 11:25
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I would have got tomb raider, but I was put off by the sub 8 scores, if only more websites give it at least 8/10 before the weekend I would have bought it, but alas they didn't
Eraysor
25/11/08 @ 11:32
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I'm really surprised by LBP's mediocre sales. I thought it was going to dominate for weeks.
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25/11/08 @ 11:37
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Surprisingly, I think I haven't played a TR game since the original one. I'll get the new one in the sales.
bodypopper
25/11/08 @ 12:11
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A franchise like Tomb Raider would work well as a 'tune in next month' episodic download at £5 a pop on Xbox Live, PSN or Steam I reckon but I guess it's not as economically viable as putting out a full game for £40.
muscleblade
25/11/08 @ 12:14
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"Weirdest thing is how much better Tomb Raider did on PS3 than 360. PS3 version came in at 14, while the 360 version could only manage 28. Guess that exclusive DLC isn't much of an enticement. "

Not weird at all considering Gears of war 2 being only on the 360. Most 360 owners play it so much they dont need any 70-80% scoring games. Left4 Dead is selling surprisingly low. Its a fantastic game imo but if you are the kind of gamer that play through a game once and then return it i guess the premise is wrong for you. You can complete it in 4 hours.

Monkey_Puncher
25/11/08 @ 12:24
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Mario and Sonic at the Olympics sold more than Left 4 Dead?

IDIOTS!
BobsUncle
25/11/08 @ 12:40
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@SteveB

I can't find Dead Space on the 360 cheap anywhere. And by cheap I mean less than £30. Play and Amazon are still selling it for £40! Zavvi for 35.
Rash'
25/11/08 @ 12:44
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Monkey_Puncher, Why is it so hard for gamers to understand that content is more important to consumers than quality. And yes there is a distinction between a gamer and a consumer that buys games. :p
SteveB
25/11/08 @ 12:58
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@BobsUncle - Dead Space was £24.99 on the 360 in store at Gamestation yesterday.
captainrentboy
25/11/08 @ 13:02
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''who the hell shops for games on the High Street these days? Only idiots and parents.''

Just taking into account Left For Dead (360), the game is a whopping £3.98 cheaper online (from only one retailer mind) than it is on the high street.
So I'd imagine for most folk it would come down to, do I want it right now? In which case nip down town and buy it, or do I want it in 4 days? In which case they save a couple of quid and order it online.
In either case, neither option is particularly idiotic :/
The way some folk go on about buying games online, you'd think you could save like £15 off every new release or something.

andijames
25/11/08 @ 13:15
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Just shows you how good games like FIFA 09 are when they're number 2 in the chart after being out for 7-8 weeks!
evilfoxhound
25/11/08 @ 13:16
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I'm not supprised that Left 4 Dead isn't in the top ten. Hardly anywhere fucking sells it! Every store I go into has Need for Speed and Fifa shit all over the place. But a quality game like Left 4 Dead is hidden away on the bottom shelf.

I guess that's what's become of the gaming industry.

PS, I'm not trying to start a fanboy war here but It's worth noting the COD sold twice as many on 360 than it did on PS3 :) (See VGCharts)
bad09
25/11/08 @ 13:48
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See the chavs have been out in force helping EA make money off Need For Speed again :)
Santino
25/11/08 @ 13:53
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"See VGCharts"

never ever use VGCharts, they only make numbers up i thought everybody knew this. they are no more accurate than picking a random number for yourself.

good to see tomb raider not doing very well, eidos dont deserve it for the stunt they pulled with reviewers.
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25/11/08 @ 14:33
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Left 4 Dead is hidden away on the bottom shelf

yeah, I came out of shop on Saturday thinking it hadn't been released... I'm hoping it will be a Game deal of the day or something by next week @£19.99 or something.
Nephirion
25/11/08 @ 15:08
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Left 4 dead is a fun game but hugely overpriced why its more than TF2 and the Orange box is a piss take.
BartonFink
25/11/08 @ 15:24
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It really is appaling to see shit like Wii Music actually climbing up the charts while quality like LBP, Fable II, etc drop off.
Welcome to the world of Wii I guess.

Just wait for it the next one to climb up there will be Star Wars The Clone Wars: Lightsaber Duels on Wii.
hahayou
25/11/08 @ 15:56
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Left 4 Dead has a single-player mode too, so it's pretty reasonable that it costs a bit more than TF2.
Widge
25/11/08 @ 16:38
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The co-op mode with AI players? You can slap bots into CounterStrike but that doesn't make it a £40 game.
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25/11/08 @ 18:32
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No comments on the AAA title Fable II dropping out of the top 40 after, what, barely a month??
bad09
25/11/08 @ 20:10
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"No comments on the AAA title Fable II dropping out of the top 40 after, what, barely a month??"

I'm more upset about Dead Space falling off the charts faster than a leg off a necromorph :(
BartonFink
25/11/08 @ 20:45
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"No comments on the AAA title Fable II dropping out of the top 40 after, what, barely a month??"

Still at 33 in the individual charts - but yea it's disappointing to see something of that quality dropping off the all formats chart in favour of some of the other shit in there.
Sid Nice
26/11/08 @ 03:27
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It's nice to see that the hardcore gamers on the Xbox 360 and PS3 are still backing Need for Speed while the casuals on the Wii didn't buy it. The chart is rather familiar with the run up to Christmas, with Need for Speed, Fifa and Call of Duty all in the top 5. Just out of curiosity does anyone know the actual UK sales data for Mario Kart and Mario and Sonic? These games have been in the charts for the best part of 8 months.

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