Too Human Comments by Dan Whitehead

brilliant???


god save us all...

Once i seen that Silicon Knights were blaming Epic and UE3 for all their delays and problems i knew this was gonna be a stinker.

Anyway, this SK should've kept this title in a Sony platform, the "oh my god, Dan is so da Bias!" thread are much more amusing.

This is probably going to be like Blue Dragon and Dreamfall. Really low review scores (here at least) but there'll be a small group of people who'll love the game.

I might pick it up later, but this one's not a day one purchase for me.

Demo felt like a 5, so makes sense this wouldn't get much more. Though I imagine will get closer to lower 70%'s everywhere else.

7/10 on Eurogamer Germany and general scores of above or around 75% ish.

"Checking on metacritic, opinions seem to vary wildly on this one. Guess I will pass... was waiting on the (rather excellent read BTW) EG review. Pity because I kinda liked the demo combat."

Let me get this straight. You liked the demo, but won't buy it because someone else doesn't like it?

@Asundai
Count me in, I'm a sucker for the longest journey series.

ha ha.. maybe xblox £3.60 can rely on something better next year...

VIVA LA PS3!!!

mu ha ha

mu ha haaaaa

It seems it does a lot wrong (inexcusable) but a lot right too. Plus, EG, why in hell didn't you play co-op?

Because there was nobody online to play co-op with, and with only one copy there was no way of setting a game up between EG people. The core complaints are so tied to the game engine that the ability to play alongside a friend wouldn't have changed the score. This isn't like an FPS where the multiplayer component is essentially a separate game.

"Let me get this straight. You liked the demo, but won't buy it because someone else doesn't like it? "

Yes and no. I liked the combat in the demo but was on the fence about the whole game. So reading the EG text I decided that I will probably skip it. You can't buy ALL games just to decide if you want them or not. Usually I trust EG as having the same tastes as me.

gazmino : thank god they put in an ignore button for retards like you.

@ gambuzino: God Bless Ignore button, and I'm atheist. What a dick.

"This isn't like an FPS where the multiplayer component is essentially a separate game. "
I can't agree with that, is not just FPS's that can be improved with coop play. Think KUF, for example.

I'll pick this up for co-op i reckon. Played worse when trying the demo.

Decent review though, sounds fair, interesting to see how bad other reviews will be based upon the negative furore the producer/desginer guy managed to create around his game.

hehehe Cryack, I got it.

@Dan

I thought that might be the reason, thanks for the response.

I don't get it though, as other reviews have stated they have played co-op. A MS, or an EG failing?

As for the co-op thing - of course it makes a difference. It's not a wholly different game, no, but nor is it entirely unchanged. A solo defender playing as compared to a defender + healer is going to be a significant change, surely.

Such a negatively worded review suggests a score way below 6, after reading it all the way through I was expecting 2!
Yeah, think I'll give it a miss.

From playing the demo I could tell the fundamental game mechanics were broken. If you can't enjoy interacting with the game then you cannot enjoy the game.

RedSparrows:

Sorry to state the obvious, but you're chatting shit. Read Dan's post again...

Ars Technica: BUY
Strategy Informer = 8.5/10
IGN: 7.8 (video review)
IGN UK: 7.5
Gameplayer: 7.0

NZ Gamer: 7.5
GameInformer: 6.75 & 7.0
Games Magazine (Greece): 9.3
Neo+ Magazine (Poland): 8.6
Maxim (Russia): 10
Playboy Magazine: 6.25
TheHDRoom: 7.9
GiantBomb: 6.0
GamePro: 8.0
Gamespy: 5.0
PlayTM: 8.8
Gamespot/Cnet: 5.5
PlantetXbox360: 8.7
TeamXbox: 6.5
1up: C- = Average (42 Metacritic, 60 GameRankings)
GCHD: 8.0
Eurogamer 6.0
Eurogamer.de: 7.0
WorthPlaying: 6.0
VideoGamer: 7.0
MSXboxWorld: 7.5
Wonderwallweb: 7.0
GamingRing: 6.0
OXM: 7.0
Pocket-lint: 7.0
TVG: 8.0

PCWorld: NA
TheGuardian: NA
CTV: NA

Taken from GAF member SPEA's post.

How am I chatting shit? Thanks for the needless belligerence.

I'm just wondering, considering other reviews have stated co-op is significantly better.

LOL @ Maxim Russia

Looks like the final game doesn't improve on anything over the demo. If they want to stretch this to a trilogy then the sequel will have to be radically improved in all areas.

Why am I not surprised?

@Xerx3s - 1st of all, I have played both Resistance and Killzone, I have no clue what that has to do with this game. Also, I really liked Resistance as did most people who played it, and Killzone was merely a good but flawed game.

Again, what does it have to do with this?

@miiiguel - It is in no way for a game to garner fandom and hype before it's released. Almost any remotely high profile game released has it, quite why this is some mysterious concept, I don't know.

The game may not be quite as bad as Haze, but it's in a very similar situation. It has been used by fanboys to snipe at the other console about how good the game will be and subsequently turned out not to fulfil that in any meaningful way.

As I said I was expecting reviews like this is getting, average to a bit above average.

And DD made a complete fool out of himself with this game and with his antics surrounding it. That's what makes this situation worse than the Haze situation for me. Not that that's a knock against the 360, it has plenty of other games which require attention more than this, and hopefully those will end up deserving it.

"I can't agree with that, is not just FPS's that can be improved with coop play. Think KUF, for example"

I agree with Miguel. Even mediocre games tend to get a lot better with coop. Ign played it in coop and they gave it a higher score. Im not buying this because its not my type of game. But i believe Too Human will get many fans. I probably buy Mercenaries 2 instead also with coop and more my type of game.

@Miguel
Too Human is probably better than KUF so if you liked that you will love this.

I don't get it. Most reviews say how good the RPG/loot system is, and now loot whores will love it and find months of fun.

... but the scores are bad.

Isn't that kinda like rating Mass Effect poorly because it isn't a loot whores dream?

Surely the game should be judged on what it's trying to do, rather than what it never intended to do? The game has always promised a Diablo styled dungeon crawl. If it delivers that... what's the problem?

I'll be getting it as I really liked the demo. Once it's above 4 it's enough for me.

Then again I liked Blue Dragon and Assassins Creed and rate both higher than GTA4 (to give random examples, please if you feel the need to "correct" me on any of that then just count to ten then go do something else).

Also, on an unrelated note:

@gamzino
"ha ha.. maybe xblox £3.60 can rely on something better next year...

VIVA LA PS3!!!

mu ha ha

mu ha haaaaa "

Has anyone lost an idiot? ;)

@ muscle: yes, that's what I'm hoping. Anyway, coop realy transforms some games like KUF (and hopefully this one), not only in the gameplay, but socialy, as I met many ppl out of the footy/FPS spectre, we westerns are used to.

edit: and yay! I'm the archetype of the "loot whore", I think...


edit: "Viva la PS3" is priceless... OMG! can Sony plz stop selling those boxes to these kids? It is ruining its image! Talk about the XBox americans... give me a dozen of those any day of the week.

"A tap on the left shoulder bumper centres the camera between Baldur"

Between Baldur and what? I think you mean behind Baldur.

"the Legacy of Kain sequel that found Silicon Knights suing former collaborators Crystal Dynamics"

Ha ha, is it just me or is that a suggestion that SK like to sue other game companies...?!


Anyway, a shame really, but I think this has never looked that good. I think the question is, will it come anywhere near recouping its $100 million budget? Just to break even would probably be between 2-3 million copies sold.

Laser cannons are not ballistic weapons. :p

To be honest I've never thought this would be anything more than average, really can't see why so much was made of it. Seems I was right....

Still, much better review than the pathetic 1up one. noface fellow was jumping in amusement today because we said 1up's was real bad and now EG one scored marginally the same. That was not the point. That review is wortheless.
Might've well just said "dont' dig it", or quote the gambino kid.

What a Dyackhead…

Too Crap more like

^ let me ask you, why do you only comment 360 games, when you don't have one ? Nightmares ?

edit: what a moron...

Judging from the demo, a 6 is still very generous. Still better than the 7 on your German counterpart. :)

Hmm. I probably could have stomached an average game if the storytelling/acting had been on par with LoK. Vikings reimagined as Space Marines from teh future? fook orf

Is that Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiguel calling me a moron? When he's spent the past two years making 'ironic' and supposedly 'comic' posts about the PS3, and calling Europeans brand whores..?

Arf! What a retard!!

Brilliantly written, by far the best and more informative review of this game I've seen so far. Bravo sir, Bravo!

Vic: no I wasn't, I was guessing (thank god I don't know you, and never will), you just prove that right now. But yes, I said you only comment 360 games, things. And that's silly, imo.

Whats silly is dedicating your life to promoting the virtues of the 360.

How old are you?

Old enough to be married, although I still don't have kids 'cos they still annoy me. I hope I'll get over that soon, can we talk later ?

malik: when on earth was Too Human ever used as a plus point for 360? it's been knocked for years.

What, I'm not buying anything less than a 10, hur hur that is hardcore.

Mmm...I'd rather not.

Mocked by some, but hailed by others.

I just pre-ordered, along with Spore.

OMG EG is so biased...what a horrible review. This game is CLEARLY a 10/10 and revolutionizes the industry! Damn you, EG!!! I'm never coming to this site again! Waaahhhhh!!!!

/end similarities to comments in MGS4 review (or any other PS3 game that doesn't get a 10)