Tomb Raider Underworld Comments by Christian Donlan
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"Having previously focused on giant squid and Croft's lovingly-crafted arse (pray you never meet the demographic who delights in that particular combination"
TBH I like squid and ass ;) As long as the new TR returns to more platforming I am quite happy and everything points in the right direction its eems. The squid and ass are a nice extra ;) |
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Triggerhappytel
22/08/08 @ 13:29
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Really looking forward to this. TRAnniversary was my favourite game of last year, and I hope this retains its huge architecture and isolated caverns. I will be getting this for PS2 if I don't have a PS360 by then.
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seamonsterneil
22/08/08 @ 13:40
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It seems so very weird that the TR games are almost like a kind of underdog going up against all these new games...
I would really like the head-jumping action from legend back. |
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Looks good. Really good. Sounds it, too. And I'm loving the idea of a voxel Lara ;D
@Feanor - I liked Legend and Anniversary pretty evenly, for different reasons. I still don't get the Uncharted gunplay love, though. It was fun and all, but the game was waaay too gunplay heavy, and the cover system was horribly flawed.
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"TRAnniversary was my favourite game of last year
Just curious, what other games did you play last year? " Hey, it was one of mine as well and I have played through it again twice this year! A great game I only wish they would remake 2 and 3 as well although not as good I'm sure the new engine would make up for it. I thought Legend was ok but completely ruined by the constant gun battles and just hope they don't feel the need to bring them back for Underworld. |
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I liked Legend more than Anniversary, so there! M
Maybe because I had already finished TR 1 previosly that I knew the story and thus wasn't that interesting. the gameplay mechanics also felt stale after playing the likes of Ass Creed and POP. I'd still get the new POP game before this but I'm always drawn to Lara's lovable... |
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Agreed Uncharted was far far far too heavy on gunplay but the cover system flawed? we must of been playing different games.... Back on topic would love a more open world raider/uncharted with puzzling and exploring galore if i never saw another human that would be just fine.... map reading clue finding tree climbing and gorillas wearing a fez like off the cartoon tarzan lord of the jungle ( ok i have lost it with that last point)
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frostcircus
22/08/08 @ 13:57
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I rather wish they'd just ditch the combat altogether. It's always been a weak point, and it's looking sillier and sillier as time goes by.
That said, TR Anniversary was genre perfection (shooty bits notwithstanding), so I'm very excited for this. |
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Triggerhappytel
22/08/08 @ 14:00
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"TRAnniversary was my favourite game of last year
Just curious, what other games did you play last year? I will be getting this for PS2 if I don't have a PS360 by then. 2005, is that you?" Ha fucking ha. For one thing, being a homeowner I rarely have a few hundred pounds of spare cash to spend on stuff like this I don't need. For another, I am still playing through loads of brilliant PS2 games to worry too much about current-gen just yet. And I played all the big PS2 games of last year, including Okami, GoW2, FFXII, etc. I'm not saying TRA was the best, but it was still my favourite. |
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@Widge:
Come on, they're hardly similar. It's like me saying "I never did like Sim City, Theme Park was much better". Even then I'd say that Sim City and Theme Park have more in common than Soul Reaver and Tomb Raider. Also, the Legacy of Kain games are better than Soul Reaver ;) Kain > Raziel any day! |
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farticusmaximus
22/08/08 @ 14:13
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TR: Legend was an awesome game with some truly spectacular and atmospheric set-pieces. Some fairly devious puzzles too.
I never had any complaints about the gunplay in it. Sure, it was very basic: lock on and fire, leap about, enemiy dead, but it broke up the brilliant exploration/puzzle solving sections quite nicely. I thought the gunplay and AI in Uncharted was fucking abysmal frankly. There's not even a reason to use the Gears cover system, just stand out in the open and after much flailing with the jittery aiming the enemies die. No challenge, no involvement. |
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squarejawhero
22/08/08 @ 14:20
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At least Legend wasn't broken like Anniversary. That glitched to crap in some places.
Still struggling to figure out why they mocapped the animation if the previewer said animators were doing a fantastic job in the first place. Le sigh. |
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Triggerhappytel
22/08/08 @ 14:27
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@ Squarejaw - probably because really good animation just isn't good enough when you've got games like Uncharted and Assassin's Creed in a similar field.
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"@ Squarejaw - probably because really good animation just isn't good enough when you've got games like Uncharted and Assassin's Creed in a similar field."
I fail to see what was so good about the animation in Uncharted. It was far better in Assassin's creed if you ask me - the way Altair moves around his environment is far more convincing. Uncharted always looked wooden (especially the floaty animations when jumping from one platform to another). I enjoyed Uncharted, it's a good game but the animation really isn't all that. |
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"Just for the record legend was better than anniversary :) "
Thats a joke right, the areas where it's just swarms of enemy's lobbing grenades was enough to put me of playing it on the hardest setting, really infuriating and not what TR games should be about. I didn't know that Uncharted was that bad with the gun fights as that was the one game thats tempting me to get a PS3, shame. |
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"Crystal Dynamics' subsequent reworking of the original Lara Croft title in the form of the Anniversary package looked like a pleasant yet bewildering throwback"
Speak for yourself! I thought it just pointed out how crap all the others have been, especially the technical mess (on the 360 at least) that was Legend. |
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grussbarbar
22/08/08 @ 18:28
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I maintain that the gunplay in the Wii version of Tomb Raider: Anniversary is near perfect. It takes some practice, but after you get used to it, it's very, very good. Dodging with movements while manual aiming is far more engaging and fun than the traditional "jump with a button and just keep on firing with your auto-aim" approach.
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@redneon
Ooops, I should have been a bit more in depth. When they came out I saw them both coming from Eidos... Soul Reaver had the same graphics engine style as Tomb Raider but it was just slicker to play, the puzzles more entertaining to complete. So in my head it was a case of I prefer this Eidos thing to that Eidos thing. No idea if they actually shared technology on those games. |
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I thought Eurogamer was above throwing around empty (without any clarification/explanations) terms like "backtracking", especially as only a few levels in Anniversary even have notable backtracking in the first place. On that note, "positive" mentions of Legend seem to do a better job summing up everything wrong with it than many negatives ones do.
Everything I've heard about Underworld seems to show that CD are really listening and trying to iron out the flaws of both Legend and Anniversary, although a few things in recent videos I've seen are a little worrying, but none of the footage has been long or in-depth enough for me to get much out of it. |
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doctorgonzo
24/08/08 @ 09:01
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Yet another Tomb Raider game. Yet another Hollyoaks wannabe wheeled out to be "the new Lara Croft". Yet more "hur hur tits" press briefings.
As Bill Hicks once remarked, "Anyone here work in marketing or advertising? Kill yourselves." |
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RamblinSydRumpo
27/08/08 @ 14:33
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After all we've been through together I prefer to refer to her as Lara (rather than Croft). But I'm starting to wonder just how much longer this "icon" can carry on. One next-gen ruin is starting to look like every other next-gen ruin.
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