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Tomb Raider: Anniversary Comments by Oli Welsh

2 May, 2007

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krudster [mod]
02/05/07 @ 08:08
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360 version please!
spliffhead
02/05/07 @ 08:11
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Seconded!

360 port surely worth 5 minutes of someones lunch break at Crystal Dy?
Blerk
02/05/07 @ 08:15
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Excellent! I'm rubbing my legs in anticipation!

Ow. Friction burn.
bushwod
02/05/07 @ 08:16
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"pixels the size of your fist"

LOL
Cloudane
02/05/07 @ 08:22
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The 'Xbox 360 version' comments are starting to grate now.

It is on the PS2; enjoy it on the format it has been developed for.
Agent_Llama
02/05/07 @ 08:22
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Don't mess with the T-Rex bit! :o(
Hog-lumps
02/05/07 @ 08:25
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Anniversary is all about Lara, alone, making her way through frighteningly huge and deserted ruins, negotiating traps and puzzles with the bare minimum of equipment.

This paragraph alone was all I wanted to hear!!
nickthegun
02/05/07 @ 08:25
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All i need now is a remixed anniversary edition of 'Entroducing' to accompany it and I can recreate my 17th birthday.

And what exactly is wrong with wanting a 360 version?
Stilicho
02/05/07 @ 08:28
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So did you play the preview version on a PS3? And if so, did you encounter any problems?
ZuluHero
02/05/07 @ 08:29
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Given the price difference in ps2, pc, and 360 and even though i got the 360 version of Legend - im probably gonna get this on PC and bung a 360 pad into a USB.

£17.99 over £39.99 or £49.99 folks :)

Still the game is looking great! And i really can't wait ^^
siro
02/05/07 @ 08:34
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I want an original xbox version. :( Legends rocked on it.
MrWonderstuff
02/05/07 @ 08:38
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360 version please. Got a PC too, but it would be nice to sit back and play on the sofa.
Dr.Haggard
02/05/07 @ 08:46
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What worries me about this is that almost everyone seems to think Legend was great, and to be honest if that's the case I don't trust your opinion on Anniversary.

That said this does sound ok, just about, but I can't help thinking I might as well just play the original again rather than buy this. On PC the original can still look ok, and unless Crystal Dynamics have actually been able to improve on the atmosphere then I don't see any reason to play Anniversary. In fact it sounds like that's the only thing they've managed to retain, which I suppose is to their credit.

Things like "looks and plays almost exactly like the classy Legend" and "the focus is on stringing together long chains of fast, flowing acrobatic moves" might be plus points to some but they really put me off :(
drumbaby
02/05/07 @ 08:47
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Works on PS3?! Preorders!!! This is now my most wanted game :)
SBfistfun
02/05/07 @ 08:49
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@Dr.Haggard

You're not alone Dr Haggard, I thought Legend was poo as well.

Don't mess with the classics! Cripes 11 years old, I can't believe it.....
WickedDeeJ
02/05/07 @ 08:51
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Nothing wrong with wanting a 360 version, I got Legend on the 360. I think it may have been a stylistic choice on the part of Eidos, since Anniversary is old school TR rather than "modern" TR as introduced in Legend.

I never cared for the old games, honestly; but I tried the demo of Legend and loved it. That being said; if it sells well on PC and PS2 there's probably a chance a 360 port will come later, unless of course all of Crystal Dynamics' 360 coding team are busy working on the next-gen TR, naturally.
cools
02/05/07 @ 08:54
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360 please, and lose the QTEs.
JYM60
02/05/07 @ 09:01
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Will tomb raider ps1 be coming to psp from the PSN store?
krudster [mod]
02/05/07 @ 09:03
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What's the betting the 360 version will be announced just before launch?
joeking
02/05/07 @ 09:10
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Yeah, 360 version please! Pretty please?
ecureuil
02/05/07 @ 09:14
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PS3 version please. It's always been a PlayStation game, really, and it makes sense..
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ZuluHero
02/05/07 @ 09:15
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@Dr.Haggard, SBfistfun

You don't have to buy it you know? Just play the original :)

And SBfistfun where's the pun? I was expecting at least a "Womb Raider" from you? :P
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morriss
02/05/07 @ 09:16
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+1 Krudster
joeking
02/05/07 @ 09:21
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Insider info krudster? ;)

I hope so because I'm going to get a wired 360 controller and the PC version if Eidos don't play ball with the 360. I REALLY want to play this game!

@ ecureuil

Not really. Tomb Raider 1 was on the Saturn and PC, so it's not really a 'PlayStation' game. It just happens to be synonymous with Sony's console because at the height of its fame [TR], the PS was the only name in town.
ecureuil
02/05/07 @ 09:31
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It just happens to be synonymous with Sony's console because at the height of its fame [TR], the PS was the only name in town.

Which is why I said it's a PlayStation game, really. While technically it wasn't, it's most fondly remembered for being a PS1 game.
Goban
02/05/07 @ 09:32
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\o/
SeesThroughAll
02/05/07 @ 09:37
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So what about a PS3 version as well?
rhinoxious
02/05/07 @ 09:40
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Of course if you were looking to replay the original Tomb Raider, you should really have dug out your Sega Saturn instead
itamae
02/05/07 @ 09:41
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Sounds excellent. So, when's this one out again?
sharpfish
02/05/07 @ 09:41
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QUOTE "Things like "looks and plays almost exactly like the classy Legend" and "the focus is on stringing together long chains of fast, flowing acrobatic moves" might be plus points to some but they really put me off :("

I'm with you on that, this looks a lot better than legend (which was a "good" game but not proper tomb raider; emphasis on shooting humans and convoluted set pieces rather than spending lots of time working things out and exploring like in the original).

I have very fond memories of TR1 (on PS1), it was *the* game to talk about at work, everyone was playing it and talking about bits of it. The Lost Valley/T-Rex part was great at the time (yeah the 'suprise' has now gone, this game may be intended for newcommers!). And even with those (now primative) graphics, at the time it conveyed it's environments and atmosphere very well. It felt like you were walking on damp, ancient ground that no human had been on for thousands of years... completely lost in later titles. The title music was also great so I hope they have done a re-recording of that along the same lines.

Legend saw Lara completely out of place a lot of times, lacking in atmosphere but yes it looked quite pretty. Too much gunfighting and not enough exploring/discovery. Everything you needed to progress was obviously layed out for you just to move around a bit. And the emphasis on acrobatics got pretty tiring (and it's very unrealistic - felt like I was playing some gymnasitcs simulator rather than an arcade adventure).

Very glad to hear there are less humans in the new game, which will go a long way to keeping the desloate atmosphere going, though I still worry that it's going to be too similar to be "anything new" to old players like me, while being different enough to still not feel entirely like the original with upgraded tech.

Put me down as "interested" and we'll see how the reviews go. Tomb Raider, while It's high on my video game nostaliga charts, has to do a lot to convince me it's still an exciting proposition this long after it's debut.

Oh and... I'm up for a 360 version too (I thought this had already been confirmed ages ago?), no 360 version then definately no purchase from me. :)
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SBfistfun
02/05/07 @ 10:25
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@ZuluHero

Aye good point, I must be coming down with something!
The_Inquisitor
02/05/07 @ 10:33
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I was a bit dissappointed that there was no 360 version when I first heard, but given the quality of the recent PS2 games released, there is no reason why it can't still look great. I just hope levels like Cistern and Colosseum retain their gloomy atmosphere.
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BrokenSymmetry
02/05/07 @ 10:33
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krudster said: "What's the betting the 360 version will be announced just before launch?"

Or, if they're really devious, the 360 version will be announced just after launch, so that people will buy both the PS2 or PC version and the 360 version.
Makkuro
02/05/07 @ 10:42
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And what exactly is wrong with wanting a 360 version?

Wanting it? Nothing wrong with that. It does get a bit tiresome to see endless "me too" posts about it after every article, though.
Twinfalls
02/05/07 @ 11:08
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What? Can somebody please clarify: the T-Rex sequence has been changed into a Shenmue QTE-style button-prompt sequence? Or just coralled off into a standard boss-monster room? Either way sucks, and bodes poorly for the rest of the game. These surprise moments were a key element, such as the statues that burst alive near the end.
joeking
02/05/07 @ 11:09
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I've never understood why there isn't more love for TR: The Last Revelation. It's the closest in the series to TR1's lonely adventurer atmosphere. I loved it personally and it's arguably my favourite of all the TR games, although it was hard as nails at times!
ecureuil
02/05/07 @ 11:10
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Wanting it? Nothing wrong with that. It does get a bit tiresome to see endless "me too" posts about it after every article, though.

And also that everyone is asking for a 360 version and not a PS3 version.
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02/05/07 @ 11:22
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The grey Peruvian caves were rendered in wobbling, jagged pixels the size of your fist, and Lara jogged around them excruciatingly slowly, fumbling and shuffling hesitantly towards every awkward jump and laboured clamber.

The PAL version of Tomb Raider was vvveeery slow, but the NTSC version is not too bad. The PAL versions of TR2, 3 & 4 (& 5 probably), were even worse as they featured frameskipping to compensate for speed. The NTSC versions were smooth and fast (or normal speed if you prefer). /end rant
Daikon
02/05/07 @ 11:31
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It's always been a PlayStation game, really

That's what you think. I just happen to know that the first Tomb Raider was released just about simultaneously on Saturn and PC also.
ecureuil
02/05/07 @ 11:33
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That's what you think. I just happen to know that the first Tomb Raider was released just about simultaneously on Saturn and PC also.


I know, you muppet. I own both the Saturn and the PC version.

I'm just saying that the series is known to be a PlayStation series. People relate Tomb Raider to Sony and PlayStation. I'm not, and never was trying to claim that the game was only on the PS1. Jesus christ.. I already explained that once.

/headdesk
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JonFE
02/05/07 @ 11:42
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krudster, I hope Eidos will hurry with that 360 announcement, because the longer I wait, the closer I get to the PC version and I know I'll regret it in the end.
joeking
02/05/07 @ 11:52
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+1

I'm not a PC gamer. Never have been, never will be.

Okay, that's not strictly true. Football Manager is one of my favourite games. And being the WWII, Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, Brothers in Arms buff that I am, I took an impulse buy punt on Company of Heroes, and I must say, it's really rather good.

However, it's an RTS, so not really suited to consoles anyway. And all the fiddling that it took me to get it to run smoothly on my decent albeit non-gaming laptop solidified just why I generally give PC gaming a w-i-d-e berth.

However, I simply must play TR:A, by hook or by crook, and if that means buying a wired 360 controller and a Windows copy of the game, then so be it.

But please Eidos. Please don't make me have to do it. I'd much rather play on it the 360, on my big TV, in DD5.1 surround, whilst sitting in my comfy recliner chair. Please let it be so. Please announce a 360 port already.....

;_;
ratso
02/05/07 @ 11:54
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afaik, it was actually designed for the saturn first.

saturn version was supposed to be better in some way, i played both but ive forgotten now
ecureuil
02/05/07 @ 11:57
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afaik, it was actually designed for the saturn first.

saturn version was supposed to be better in some way, i played both but ive forgotten now


Yeah, I thought that, too. The Saturn version was poor in comparison, though.
agparrot
02/05/07 @ 11:58
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I'm just saying that the series is known to be a PlayStation series.

I'm with ecureuil on this, and would even go as far as to say that Tomb Raider - despite being pretty much identical on the Saturn and 'station, was a system seller for the PS1.

At a time when it was still fairly uncommon for 'non-gamers' to own a console, its breathtaking 3D environment (blocky as it seems now), relatively accessible control method and, erm, inviting protagonist made it something quite different than what had come before in many ways.

I'm not saying it was some sort of revolutionary, I *know* it looked better on the PC, but at a time when clubbers were coming home and playing Wipeout on their playstations, this was, certainly amongst my circle of friends and acquaintances, one of the games that made them not worry about how geeky it was to play games.

This, and things like being able to play Ridge Racer in your home, was the sort of thing that started to turn the tide for gaming, and Yes, ecu, is certainly associated in my mind with the playstation brand.

PS3 version please! ;P
spliffhead
02/05/07 @ 12:20
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I think the Saturn version came out a whole 7 days before the PS1/pc version, could be wrong.
Hughes.
02/05/07 @ 12:21
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How about the save system? I couldn't stand having to endure dying just short of a save crystal and having to flog through 20 minutes of block pushing I'd just gone through before.

And does the 360 really still need PS2 games? Especially PS2 games that are remakes of PS1 games!
JonFE
02/05/07 @ 12:32
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"And does the 360 really still need PS2 games? Especially PS2 games that are remakes of PS1 games!"

Well, I guess the 360 needs good games -just like any other console system, for that matter- regardless of their origin.
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quantumsheep
02/05/07 @ 12:39
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"I think the Saturn version came out a whole 7 days before the PS1/pc version, could be wrong."

I think it was more like a month, but like you, I could be wrong.
bcolter
02/05/07 @ 12:45
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Cloudane "It is on the PS2; enjoy it on the format it has been developed for. "

Dumb post of the day!

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