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TOCA Race Driver 3 Challenge Comments by Tom Bramwell

8 February, 2007

Take the race line for a walk.

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jonsaan
08/02/07 @ 13:45
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Is this the one that was released in the US about 6 months ago?
lambtron
08/02/07 @ 13:46
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hmmm
Mugwum [staff]
08/02/07 @ 14:03
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"Is this the one that was released in the US about 6 months ago?"

No.
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08/02/07 @ 14:03
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Is this the one that was released in the US about 6 months ago?

No, that was the first TOCA for PSP released in the US, based largely on TRD2.

This game is much closer to TRD3.
Mugwum [staff]
08/02/07 @ 14:06
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Sorry, didn't mean to be so abrupt! The US got "Race Driver 2006" which was basically the same as our version of TOCA Race Driver 2 PSP. So in effect, theirs was late. TRD3 Challenge is out in Europe on 16th Feb.
Rambaldi
08/02/07 @ 14:24
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How about porting it to the 360 instead?
Totoriko
08/02/07 @ 14:39
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codemasters are still alive?
S0L
08/02/07 @ 14:42
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Codies get all the credit again... Did you not notice the Sumo logo on boot-up, at least credit us as developers...! :)

Pretty fair review, a few comments mind. Difficulty wise, we intentionally start of easy, it's due to the criticism last time that it was too hard. Hence the different cups, you can go through the game just scoring bronze, but the Gold is there for if you want a decent difficult challenge. You get some extra content for doing the Golds too, so it's worthwhile.

Also on the GameShare - there should be more than 1 car and track combo, off the top of my head there are 5 different cars each with their own selection of tracks. We had to limit the selection as some tracks are too big to send - but you should have a bit of choice in there.

For multi-disk UMD multiplayer, you do need to play through World Tour to unlock more cars and tracks (which you get for scoring over bronze) so that may be why you only are seeing the one track to start?

You could have mentioned the Custom Soundtracks play MP3's without any conversion too :P

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Eighthours
08/02/07 @ 14:51
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Sol, are you Sumo Digital guys ever going to work on your own original IP? You're the conversion masters (Outrun, TOCA, Virtua Tennis) - surely you could do a great job with an original release?
DodgyPast
08/02/07 @ 14:54
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Thank you SOL.

Nice to see a developer chiming in after a review like this without being too agressive and actually adding relevant information to the review.

As a lover of racing games the idea of acceleration and breaking using the analogue means this will get purchased. I love driving with my arse hanging out which really does need analogue for acceleration more than steering.
Ryze
08/02/07 @ 15:31
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Nice 1 for posting, S0L.

Now, a little question... what are the chances of us seeing an online playable Daytona 2007 on PSP & Xbox 360?

Ta.
Mugwum [staff]
08/02/07 @ 15:52
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"Codies get all the credit again... Did you not notice the Sumo logo on boot-up, at least credit us as developers...! :)"

No! This is because I only saw it the once, when I first loaded it up, and all other sessions were kicked off from standby. Something to consider for the future: make your games crash more so I see the logo more often! I have updated the review. All better?

"You could have mentioned the Custom Soundtracks play MP3's without any conversion too"

Tsk! MP3s are ILLEGAL, Mr Sumo man!
BBIAJ
08/02/07 @ 16:05
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Hmmm... Mugwum's gone quiet... ;o)

I'd been considering ToCA 2 for a while now, but might well go for this version instead.

EDIT: I really should remember to refresh the page before commenting next time!

Damn you Mugwum!

*shakes fist*
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jonsaan
08/02/07 @ 16:07
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Is this the one that was released in the US about 6 months ago?

Actually it wasn't the same at all. It had a world mode or something which was much better in fact.
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08/02/07 @ 16:59
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Ta Mugwum - appreciated :)

MP3's can be legalled obtained you know, well at least that's what I'm reliably informed!

On the other abundant questions...

1. Port, port, port, thats all you guys do!

If there is one thing we get told over and over and over, it's this. We have and are working on original games, some are out (Broken Sword 4, Go! Sudoku) whilst others are in the pipeline. I'd argue that whilst we can be accused of mostly converting other peoples IP, we generally go the distance and try and add something special to it.

2. When are you going to convert Daytona Galaxy Turbo Outrun Drift Burner.

We do suggest projects to Sega (and other publishers!) all the time, including looking at their back catalogue. Bear in mind though, they're very much the Daddies, and so we basically got told what to do. Believe me, I'd be working on a Next Gen Super Hang On right now if I had the choice. Well that or F-Zero DS.

3. Toca Race Driver 2 vs Toca Race Driver 2006 vs Toca Race Driver 3 Challenge

RD2 was Europe only, and a pretty much direct PS2 to PSP conversion.

RD2006 was US only, had all the stuff from RD2 and added an extra championship, GameShare and extra cars and tracks.

RD3 Challenge is different again, it also has the GameShare, new cars and tracks taken from the console versions of the game, but with a design specifically done for PSP.

So yeah, not the same game. I think that's what I am getting at...
immateriaux
08/02/07 @ 18:24
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why do the first few screen shots in the review show you about to smash into on-coming traffic???
manic_mouse
08/02/07 @ 21:26
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@SOL

You guys do great work, it's much appreciated by us all.
MarcoM
09/02/07 @ 07:33
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I am really looking forward to this new incarnation of DTM on the psp.

Is Spa Francorchamps included?
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linkster
09/02/07 @ 08:53
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yeah, Spa is in there.

Should be a demo going up on YourPSP today.
MarcoM
09/02/07 @ 11:27
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Cool, I hope that is true!
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09/02/07 @ 11:45
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Aye, the demo is out today. Spa isn't in the demo (we had to keep it SMALL) - but is definately in the full game.

Demo link here:

https://download.eu.playstation.com/shop...

Note the demo takes up about 22MB on the Memory Stick, and you will need to be on Firmware 3.10 to use the demo.

It has 3 cars, 2 track and 3 different events to play. All the demo events are different from the full games too, so if you do decide to get the game, it'll all be fresh to you :)

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MarcoM
09/02/07 @ 12:43
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that is just too cool! I wanna go home and try it NOW!!
MarcoM
09/02/07 @ 16:35
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OK tried it. Love it. Bring on next week :)
Freekmeister
12/02/07 @ 15:44
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Hi Mr. Sumo Digital.
Played your Broken Sword 4 Game on PeeZee. Never got such a lousy Performance in an Adventure as in here. Im getting abot 20 fps average out of Halflife2, a shooter with many Enemies and AI, which this Game dont have, and im getting about 6to10 fps in an Adventure. WTF!?! My Comp is a 1.3 Ghz Radeon9500p 512MB but this is no Excuse for an Adventure Game. And im playing only in 800.
S0L
13/02/07 @ 10:39
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Hello,

The great thing about PC's - is that there could be any one of a number of reasons why you're having issues. Specwise, it looks fine, although the processor is below the 1.4Ghz, recommended on the box, but lets have think about obvious stuff.

1 - Get the Broken Sword 4 patch here - http://cms.motioncast.co.uk/demos/BSAODP...

This fixed a couple of performance issues with certain hardware combo's, so is the most likely place to start.

2 - Check your drivers
You sound fairly savvy, so I doubt it is this, but make sure you're up to date with your drivers for your Radeon, sound hardware etc. Also make sure you are up to date with DirectX, I think it needs DirectX 9.0c at least.

See how that goes. Chances are something in the above will sort you out!
Freekmeister
13/02/07 @ 16:54
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In German: 100mhz don't make the Kraut fat. Also the Mouse Movement is terribly laggy and annoying. Don't know what the heck the CPU is doing the whole time. In BS4 the Performance is very bad (the patch don't change anything of performance), even FarCry runs better than this 4-6fps 'Experience'.
S0L
14/02/07 @ 13:59
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Given the spec, you should be seeing a better framerate.

The game is more video card intensive, so as you say, the 100MHz shouldn't make too much of a difference, but at first glance, that's all I could see that was below the requirements. Bear in mind I wasn't part of the Broken Sword 4 team, and so I was going on previous PC experiences...

I suggest the best thing to do is drop THQ support a mail, they've been looking after the game and will likely know any common issues with hardware that can cause a dip in performance. If they don't know the answer they'll pass it directly on to us to investigate. Link is here: http://www.thq.de/html_repository/suppor...

I'm sorry you've not had much fun with the game, and I can appreciate how frustrating that can be. Hopefully we can get this sorted out for you.
phl0w
15/02/07 @ 18:01
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Guess it's time to finally get that PSP... Shame it hasn't dropped in price yet =/
2gb model still €279.99
sid_raptor
13/10/09 @ 03:07
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How do i play mp3s ingame/ i tried with the conversion utility for toca 2 but it did not work. cant seem to find much online either.
Anyone help pls!

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