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The Witcher: Enhanced Edition Review

PC Review by Kieron Gillen

17 September, 2008

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Not having read a film mag in years, I don't know if they still do this, but... I always despised the dual-mark DVD review section where they give separate marks for films and add-ons, with a similar sort of split shown in the actual reviews in terms of what they talk about. Because if a film is rubbish, who cares if it's got voiceover commentary by the entire cast's family? It's rubbish. You're reviewing. That's all that bloody matters.

The Witcher: Enhanced Edition has provided me with the latest in a long string of opportunities to be a dirty great hypocrite.

Because games are a cultural form I actually care about, the enormous bundle of stuff doesn't seem to be just extraneous guff. It's actually pretty neat. And since The Witcher has already been reviewed, and remains mostly the same game I can concentrate my attention on the new stuff - what's changed and why you may be interested, even if you weren't before.

A lot has changed for this single-character role-playing game, which is built around the popular (in Poland) Polish fantasy character of the title. When released it was in a somewhat twitchy state, and the patches have done much to sort that out. The biggest problem - long load times - has been dealt with to a significant degree. Only the first load in a session tends to leave you sighing, with the rest agreeably non-punishing. When the character has to bob in and out of hours on a quest, not caring that you have to do such a thing is a major boon for basic reasons of immersion.

The second problem to be tackled head-on is the issue of translation. For reasons unknown - though it's easy to speculate - the original Polish dialogue was much longer and more detailed than the English translation. And the voice-acting was uneven, and the characters did that Neverwinter Nights thing of standing still and reciting their lines sinisterly, which made some scenes pretty much unintelligible. It was so distracting that when I played the original Witcher, I actually installed the Polish voice files and used the unedited full English subtitles - treating it like a foreign film.

'The Witcher: Enhanced Edition' Screenshot 1

Very blue skies, the Witcher. It's like a Zelda who likes saying ["Go Away" - Ed] a lot.

All that's been tweaked, thankfully. Apparently over 5000 lines have been re-recorded, plus there are extra character animations. The results are not exactly overwhelming. The character animations are far better, but it's a case them now being acceptable rather than impressive. The translation changes are subtle and welcome, and result in rather less foot-in-mouth moments. To give one example, there's a scene in the original where the Head Witcher tells the others they should treat Love Interest Number 1 with more respect, before calling her "babe". In the new version, they've use the word "child" - so the paternalism they were aiming for now comes across.

There are still problems, however. The timing of conversations is an issue - especially when you loop back to the main conversation menu after an exchange. Each character you're talking to has a set refrain before you get to choose, and it often bears no relation to what's previously been said. Also the game's creators have a tendency to not understand that while setting a game in a sexist world (as in, characters really are terrible bastards) is fine and actually worthy of praise, adding sexist mechanics (as in, whenever you sleep with a character you get a collectable card of them posing for you) undercuts any serious intentions you may have had.

Which is a shame - as a revisionist, nasty fantasy, the Witcher has a lot going for it. It's the only PC RPG of the last couple of years which has committed to a high level of production values (at its best, the game is genuinely beautiful) to a traditional design (heavy on the conversation) with enough twists to make it feel novel. The setting being so nasty is a prime one - after a mass of sanitised RPGs, playing one where characters happily call each other abusive names makes a welcome change.

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MrChuckles
17/09/08 @ 13:05
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I have been uhming and ahing, and with Fallout 3 and Fable 2 coming out, i'm still uhming and ahing....

I think i'll wait for it to drop in price a bit, then pick it up, i have just got a new gfx card after all.
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17/09/08 @ 13:07
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>Enhanced Edition changes will be available in a large downloadable patch to anyone who owned the original

Ha.. I can finally continue my Witcher adventures ;)
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17/09/08 @ 13:14
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I've been umming and ahhing since Atari started using a known scammer company and a well known bunch of ambulance-chasers to sue everyone who might have once walked past someone, who once sat next to somebody, who may or may not have looked at a Witcher torrent on the internet.
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17/09/08 @ 13:14
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Does this come with a free lawsuit?
sickpuppysoftware
17/09/08 @ 13:22
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I'm finding myself in agreement with Commissar. When it originally came out I thought it sounded interesting but there was other stuff I got instead. My interest rose again when I heard about this new enhanced edition. Now that lawsuit business has left rather a sour taste and I'm wondering whether to bother now or not.

By he time I make my mind up it'll be a tenner
dsmx
17/09/08 @ 13:31
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Does it come with DRM since reviews constantly fail to mention something which does effect buying decisions.
Commissar
17/09/08 @ 13:32
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I'd really love to play the game, it sounds excellent.
They can forget it if they think I'm going to fund their lawsuits though.

I'll wait a year until Atari inevitably goes bust and I'll buy a copy from whoever picks up the publishing rights.
Ravenger
17/09/08 @ 13:34
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I played through the first game and loved it, even with the patchy voice acting and script. So I've now got the enhanced edition on order as I want the definitive version of the game.

The best bit about the game is the choices, which aren't obviously good or evil like they are in the other RPGs. Instead you're stuck between a rock and a hard place, with the consequences of a choice only becoming apparent much later on in the game - by which time it's too late to do change them. It's the only game I've played where I've agonised over a decision for several minutes before making my choice.
Clive Dunn
17/09/08 @ 13:35
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I'd just like to say, for the record, I bought my copy of The Witcher and Atari haven't tried to sue me.

Perhaps I'm alone, or perhaps the intardnet is just full of whinging downloaders. You just never know*.

*Well you do really.
neilka
17/09/08 @ 13:37
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"By he time I make my mind up it'll be a tenner"

You can already buy the original for under £13 and patch it to the Enhanced Edition for free.
Skeletor
17/09/08 @ 13:40
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"There are also three small books - the manual, a game guide and a novella by the original author of The Witcher, Andrezej Sapkowski."

Actually, it's ANDRZEJ;-) Polish equivalent to the english name Andrew.

Ceatlan
17/09/08 @ 13:43
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This was definitely one of my fave games of the last year, I'll probably give it another play through now :-)

I too loved how the choices often weren't clear cut, and how you could never manage to please all of the people who were supposedly on your side.
jack_klugman
17/09/08 @ 13:45
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The best bit about the game is the choices, which aren't obviously good or evil like they are in the other RPGs. Instead you're stuck between a rock and a hard place, with the consequences of a choice only becoming apparent much later on in the game - by which time it's too late to do change them.

Ugh. That sounds horrible! I don't want my gameplay restricted by choices where the outcome isn't apparent until hours later and I'm forced to do lengthy replays to get the full experience I paid for. Bad!
Evolution
17/09/08 @ 13:46
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@dsmx

As far as I know, there isn't any DRM.
Plughead
17/09/08 @ 13:47
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I've been waiting to buy this since I learned of the original's load time issues. I shall be using my Gamestation 20 quid off voucher for this very purpose!
Rirekon
17/09/08 @ 13:52
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If this ends up on Steam I'll be getting it
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17/09/08 @ 13:54
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DO NOT BUY THIS GAME

Last year i bought a legel copy from the hut of the original witcher.
Around 8 months later atari said i had downloaded it and tried to blackmail me for £550.
This problem was only fixed when another member of eurogamer helped pay my solictor fees to get Atari of my back.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS GAME
PlugMonkey
17/09/08 @ 14:02
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Ugh. That sounds horrible! I don't want my gameplay restricted by choices where the outcome isn't apparent until hours later and I'm forced to do lengthy replays to get the full experience I paid for. Bad!

I can't work out if you're taking the piss, or if you've missed the point to such a grand extent it is now a tiny speck on the horizon somewhere over your right shoulder.
saku_luk
17/09/08 @ 14:03
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LOL, Atari is only a publisher beyond Poland, this is not their game....actually, why CD PROJEKT didn't publish their own game i dunno, I think they could easly pull this off.

Anyway, you can always buy this directly from CD PROJEKT from Poland, I think every single copy of the game comes with the DVD that has all the languages this game was released in?

And lol again at atari.....They should just disappear after that FLOP Alone in the dark >.>
UncleLou
17/09/08 @ 14:09
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Ugh. That sounds horrible! I don't want my gameplay restricted by choices where the outcome isn't apparent until hours later and I'm forced to do lengthy replays to get the full experience I paid for. Bad!

You can't be serious. Get out of my RPGs, on the double.

It doesn't "restrict your gameplay", it's a million times better than Bioware's "Mother Teresa/school bully" dialogue choices design.

Fallout 3 should be right up your street. The devs already said that they'll make it blatantly obvious what the consequences will be of everything you do, with blinking neon signs. Boring.
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MORZTAN
17/09/08 @ 14:10
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20 minutes... Out Front... Pufferfish...
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17/09/08 @ 14:11
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DO NOT BUY THIS GAME

Last year i bought a legel copy from the hut of the original witcher.
Around 8 months later atari said i had downloaded it and tried to blackmail me for £550.
This problem was only fixed when another member of eurogamer helped pay my solictor fees to get Atari of my back.

STAY AWAY FROM THIS GAME


Lol.

I think I just might give my money to Atari after all.
jack_klugman
17/09/08 @ 14:15
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I can't work out if you're taking the piss, or if you've missed the point

The latter and its entirely possible!

It doesn't "restrict your gameplay"

Surely any decision which funnels you down a particular narrative/gameplay branch is preventing you from accessing the alternative?

This is a personal preference thing - apologies for presenting my view as "this is absolute" - but I don't have time to invest many hours in a game which demands a replay to allow me to see all possible outcomes and experience all the variables available. I don't consider choice in RPGs a means of defining my character - it feels more like restricting my options.

it's a million times better than Bioware's "Mother Teresa/school bully" dialogue choices design.

Digital morality is an immediate fail.
jack_klugman
17/09/08 @ 14:17
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Fallout 3 should be right up your street.

If it had a less insipid art direction then a shooty Oblivion would be right up my street!
GordonCaladan
17/09/08 @ 14:22
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So, better than The Witcher, then?

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Thanks for the review, I'm relieved to see my preorder of the Extended Edition box won't turn out to be a waste of money.
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UncleLou
17/09/08 @ 14:23
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Well, your expectations of what an RPG should deliver are obviosuly on such a polar opposite to mine that I don't think we will find common ground. :)

I don't see how you're missing something, though. You're making a decision, and live with the consequences. If there's no choice at all, you're missing much more - a vital gameplay element (having a choice), and the alternative, branching path. Because there only is one anyhow.

In other words: you're seeing exactly as much of the game if you play it once as you'd see if there was no branching storyline at all. What you're complaining about is additional content you wouldn't see in either case.
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17/09/08 @ 14:44
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@jack_klugman: i was afraid of making bad choices and having to reload after 6hr of play because the result wouldn't be what i wanted. but that was before i played the game. i think it's 'cause of the way cdprojekt presented this in the trailers.

anyway, it's not like that. just make the choice that you'd make anyway, without worrying about a possible unwanted outcome. you'll be fine in the end. the story is well written so you won't regret the decision that you made. you'll be curious about the other path(s), but you'll kinda know what would happen if you'd go that way, so it's not like you'll be missing out on half the story if you don't replay it.

just get the game already. it's the best rpg in a long time. only downside is that after playing this, bioware's stuff will seem bland and childish.
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17/09/08 @ 14:49
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The important thing is that there are no bad choices in the Witcher. No choice is good and no choice is evil. All the choices have good and bad consequences, but not all the consequences are readily apparent when you make the choice. You have to live with the long term consequences of your actions, which makes the game much more immersive. if you're curious about what the alternative paths are like you can always read up on them once you've completed the game, like I did.
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17/09/08 @ 14:52
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Lou is right if you didn't have a choice there would be only one ending.
And if you do have a choice your decision to only play through once means you'd only see one ending.
Why would you care if it was a 'good' ending or a 'bad' one depending on what morale choices you made.
You'd only experience one ending so the choice you made would in your case be correct anyway based towards your personal preference.
I can't see how having a choice is a bad thing.
jack_klugman
17/09/08 @ 14:55
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i was afraid of making bad choices and having to reload after 6hr of play because the result wouldn't be what i wanted. but that was before i played the game.

I am passing judgement without playing the game. I'm certainly not opposed to giving it a try now its available on Steam.

just get the game already. it's the best rpg in a long time.

Okay!
figgis
17/09/08 @ 14:55
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Elvish Dubstep?

/orders.
mooseblade
17/09/08 @ 15:06
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thanks that review was very helpful, i feel i understand your point of view.
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17/09/08 @ 15:24
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I take it with such a big and game-altering download, downloading the patch will result in a loss of saved games from the original version. Not that I wouldn't mind playing it all again...
Lobotomist
17/09/08 @ 16:09
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I dont know what is wrong with Eurogamer reviewers?

I have been long time die hard RPG, fan. I played it all from first home computers to pen&paper to modern PC games.

There was no PC RPG i didnt play , and I can say that WITCHER ranks among best PC RPGS EVER MADE

List would probably go like this

1.Fallout+Fallout2
2.Baldurs gate series
3. Planescape Torment
4.The Witcher


If you think yourself a RPG player - and dont buy this game , you will be missing one of the best RPGs made in last 10 years.

Simple as that
Zaltan
17/09/08 @ 16:33
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I'll finally have some money next week thanks to student loans so I might get this.
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17/09/08 @ 16:49
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Lou is right if you didn't have a choice there would be only one ending.
And if you do have a choice your decision to only play through once means you'd only see one ending.


That's an excellent way of thinking about it.
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17/09/08 @ 17:02
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Until the scam business was in the news I was dead certain I would buy this to support what CDProjekt is doing, a remarkable work over that also is available to everyone who already has supported them the first time. It's not something you see often in this business.

Now... well. Fuck.

I'll probably spend the money on Slitherlink and Prof. Layton instead. Not to mention Multiwinia.

Fuck.
qoobah
17/09/08 @ 17:11
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@lobotomist

I really don't get why everyone who played it makes it to be the new alpha and omega of CRPG gaming. I found it to be good, but that's it, it wasn't awsome. Sure it had a novel idea with the not-so-unambiguous morality and choices outcomes but overall I found it to be rather bland with MMO style quests, dialogues copied straight from the Sapkowski novels, anti-immersive combat etc. All in all I played it once and felt no incentive to try it again. I had loads more fun with Mass Effect rather than this, despite it's obvious mr. Good Cop/school bully morality and other flaws. I guess the witcher is just not eveyones cup of tea but I feel it should be mine as I really liked most of the books (bar the abbhorent two last saga titles) but it clearly isn't. I'd heavily disagree that it's one of cRPG benchmarks. It's only a highlight and I'd argue just because there is lately nothing else in cRPG department to enjoy.
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17/09/08 @ 17:26
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peak_performance what scam?
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17/09/08 @ 17:29
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@qoobah, I will swing the needle even further in the opposite direction. I HATED the Witcher. And I tried to like it for many, many, many hours. Every one of those hours felt like a week to me.

It's weird because I know a lot of people loved this game. I can see that lobotomist has good taste, for instance. But the pacing was just so God-awful IMO. The load times were just one part of the problem. Everything from the long uneventful walks between distant points of interest (with knee-high fences I couldn't climb over grr) to the rambling and vaguely broken dialog trees, to the poorly developed "love" interests (ooh edgy sex content!) and the boring pub games... the game was just an absolute labor to sit through. There were a few moments I guess, but they were so infrequent I could only acknowledge them grudgingly.

Now I catch myself wondering if I should reinstall to checkout the improvements. But really, if it's the same game with a few rough edges polished off, it will still probably seem like a thankless timesink to me.
UncleLou
17/09/08 @ 17:43
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I don't say you're wrong it's obviously a well justified opinion, just pointing out that the original game has an average user rating of 8.8 (of 130 votes), so it's safe to say you're in a bit of a minority. :)

I loved it - loved the combat, which really comes into its own at later stages, when you string combos together, switch the fighting style in between and use magic and potions. I also loved the whole world - the differences are sometimes subtle, but - much like Gothic - all in all I found it a so much more convincing old European world, rather than the kitschy World Disney fantasy worlds that are so typical for D&D.

Finally, I loved the plot. The political intrigue, and the many memorable scenes (the party, for example) that were pretty much a first for a game. It's also a bit unfair (as you sometimes hear) to say that people only rate The Witcher because there was nothing else out - I found it infinitely superior to any of Bioware's or even Obidian's efforts of recent years. Mass Effect is a bit of an exception, but I saw that more as an action than a classic role-playing game.
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Katsumoto
17/09/08 @ 17:46
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I just couldn't play it after a few hours due to the utterly utterly dreadful dialogue and voice acting. If this has improved that then i'm as excited as a very excited person with a special reason to be excited. A shame the review indicates the dialogue is now only "passable" rather than "oh god" but passable is a great improvement on oh god, so will be getting this patch over the weekend.
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I never quite understood the complaints about the voice-acting - a few exceptions (like the sorceress that is your ally, forgot the name) aside, I found the voice-acting fine. As for the dialogues - they had a few quirks, but once again, I found them much more to the point and well-written than most other stuff out there, absolute gems in that regard like Planescape: Torment or Vampire aside. I thought the whole game sounded a lot more natural than the often artificial fake medieval style, or the long-winded (without being well written) speeches in other games.

I'll freely admit though, as a non-native speaker, it might be harder to judge the quality of voice-acting.
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Yes, I know I'm in a small minority here (me and Yahtzee, basically, we both hate everything. Except No More Heroes, for some reason he liked that tripe... but I digress.)

It's funny that you specifically mention the party - because that's exactly where I stopped playing. It seemed to sum up everything I hated about the Witcher to that point: long-winded, pretensious, even more of a system hog than the game had been up to that point, fetch-quests for people 5 feet away from the objects of their desire, and more of that exciting-if-you're-15, not-as-edgy-as-it-aims-to-be sexual content. (One character offers, pretty much out of the blue, "I also give orgasms." Ugh.)

Maybe part of the problem is that my computer was not as blisteringly fast as I'd have needed it to be in order to properly enjoy the game. In general, and in that scene in particular, the game just felt... clunky. And my system was no slouch! But this is an argument in favor of a reinstall as I have just upgraded significantly.

Speaking of clunky, this website is pretty insane with the gobs of Flash running. Just typing this reminds me a bit of the Witcher. ;)

I'm with you re: Gothic, though, that's a fun place.
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UncleLou
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Wait, I didn't mean the mini-party though at whatsherface's place, but the big reception upstairs at the pub thingy - or do you mean that as well?

You als knocked yourself out by saying "pretentious". ;)
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"Wait, I didn't mean the mini-party though at whatsherface's place, but the big reception upstairs at the pub thingy - or do you mean that as well?"

Yah, I think we mean the same scene. Big party with some princess or whatever, and a guard in plate mail who needs a drink or something? It's been a couple of months.

"You als knocked yourself out by saying "pretentious". ;) "

Not sure I follow...
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17/09/08 @ 18:49
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@UncleLou

Yeah I know me and darc are not exactly in the majority here, it got even higher user scores on metacritics (somewhere above 9 iirc) I just fail to see why that's the case. The combat, along with the quests felt clunky and anti immersive for me, and I don't just mean the mechanics which are another issue. A witcher as depicted in Sapkowski's books is an elite monster slayer, he has to prepare thoroughly for every contracted fight, and focus on it if he is to survive an encounter with a striga or basilisk, much as you have seen in the intro. Running around, slaying hudreds of millions of constant respawns of drowners, ghould, graveirs etc. in MMO style "get me X heads of Y and you'll get Z amount of gold" wasn't my idea of how a witcher works.

Admittedly, the world was quite well depicted, and sometimes beautifully executed, capturing the mood and was a much needed fresh breeze in high fantasy D&D style dominated genre, I agree. However, seeing I'm Polish, I already knew the books and the setting, so it really wasn't much of a surprise to me.

And this bring me to what made me indifferent towards the game, and what made you love it - the plot. A lot of it's twists, hell, even whole dialogue lines, were taken directly from the books. To some they made nice cameos and refrences, but it made me know in a lot of instances what will the character say next, and what will the next plot twist be. The party and politics is a prime example - there is a whole, big scene in the second saga book, that depicts such a party and machinations behind it, albeit on larger scale. But it made the party just a reference for me, not a clever novelty and fun plot point as it was for many.

Add to that the fact the the writers inspired the main plot twist (time teleportationlol, a child with strange abilities being the focal point for the plot) DIRECTLY from the part of the books I disliked the most (I valued the Witcher saga for being a down-to-earth gritty and complex fantasy, not some mystical bollocks) and there you have it - I really, really can't see how The Witcher can be put up there together with Fallouts, Baldur Gates and PT:T, even on par with the flawed gem that Mass Effect was. And it makes me uncomfortable, seeing as I should rather cheer for my country's only high profile production, which after all isn't that bad as I make it to be. I stand by my assesment though - it's a good game, it's not perfect, and it really, really is very far from becoming a benchmark the way Fallouts and Planescape are.

Wow, that was long... I'll stop now, it's snowing outside I've got too much time on my hands :|
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yagisencho
17/09/08 @ 20:23
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Already pre-ordered on Steam last week. I was just waiting for the uber-patch before committing to it. RPG goodness awaits!
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17/09/08 @ 20:44
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I'm trying to buy this on Steam - but it seems to have vanished!

There's a page offering a pre-order discount, but the game isn't available.

How very strange! Maybe they don't want my money?

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UncleLou
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Fair comments, qoobah - I haven't read the books, so this can obviosuly give you a different perspective.

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