The Bluffer's Guide to Hentai Games
Attention: Adult content ahead!
What a brilliant sales pitch: "Feeling lonely and bored?" asked the email newsletter. Of course I am! I'm sitting at my computer, aren't I? I'm reading a newsletter about import games, aren't I? Well then, the email went on, why not check out some newly available English-translated Japanese Adult Dating Games? Why not indeed? Up until now, if you wanted to feed your Hentai videogame fix you'd have to brush up on your kanji and search out seedy game stores in the side streets of Akihabara. Not any more. In recent years, companies such as Peach Princess and JAST USA have been making English-language eroge (as it's also known) available to American gamers. Now, Play-Asia is making them easily available to us European lot.
But should we actually care? Is there any more to this heady blend of anime, videogames and porn than antique game mechanics and mildly titillating drawings? Eurogamer decided to find out.
The first part of our research took us to Play-Asia's selection of Hentai Games. A brief warning that the pages ahead contain 'Nudity', 'Strong sexual content' and 'Explicit pictures' confirm that we're in the right place. Further confirmation is provided by the selection of games on offer - a selection that also provides some pretty startling insights into the genre. There are currently some 50-odd titles available in translation at the moment. And they are pretty odd. Picking titles at random demonstrates pretty clearly that even this limited selection of hentai games caters to the broadest extremes of sexual proclivity: there's transexuality (Yin-Yang - X-Change Alternative); gothic horror (Animamundi - Dark Alchemist); historical romance (Enzai - Falsely Accused); human sacrifice (Bible Black: The Game); submission (Absolute Obedience - Zettai Fukuju Meirei); mild incest (Hitomi - My Stepsister) and much, much more. Certainly more than the odd cross-dresser in Guilty Gear, or Dead or Alive's bikini babes.

According to Wikipedia, Hentai is a Japanese word that can mean 'change of shape', 'abnormality' or 'metamorphosis'. As well as all this.
There's also a wide range of play mechanics, from simple dating games, where you've got to impress the girls enough to get them into compromising positions, to choose-your-own adventure style flowchart games, where you simply have to make choices at key moments to propel the sexual narrative along. And if, for some reason you're stuck without a Windows-compatible PC, you can pick from a choice of interactive DVDs, which all play in a regular DVD player. And if for some reason you're stuck without a pair of hands, you can chose those games that include a 'hands-free' mode (whatever that means).
And talking of hands, the next part of our research obviously demanded a more hands-on approach. Three titles were duly selected and ordered. And received, although only one of them in plain cover, presumably because only one of them - Casual Romance Club - was adorned with 12 pictures of naked girls on the box.
Saving that for last, the first game to be subjected to the sort of rigorous scrutiny that you've come to expect from Eurogamer was Critical Point. Originally released in 2002, the game is essentially a choose-your-own adventure with 24 different paths scripted by Mobile Suit Gundam scriptwriter, Kenichi Matsuzaki. It's illustrated by partially-animated and still images, and accompanied by a sort of lounge bar jazz soundtrack. Rather helpfully it can be played in an easily alt-tabbed window, and for anyone who isn't a fan of Matsuzaki-san's work, the game's creators have helpfully included a 'quick' mode, which speeds through the story so fast you don't have to read it.

Hentai games are known by a variety of terms, including H game and Eroge.
More patient gamers will appreciate the science-fiction take on a police procedural that plays out pretty normally until the lead character, an amputee undercover investigator, takes a tour of Moon Base D-02 and this happens: "The crew woman called Tsuei turned away from her panel and stood up. She started walking towards me. Before I knew it, she opened her uniform and revealed her breasts." The murder-mystery plot goes on to encompass sex with an older woman, female marines running round in fishnet tops; a scatterbrained assistant who accidentally falls over and flashes her panties etc. etc. There is one, frankly troubling scene, however, which incorporates sado-masochism and rape fantasies.
Which leads, of course, to the serious argument about whether games such as these are likely to dehumanise women, or encourage sinister patterns of real-life behaviour. While you might imagine such an argument to be a lively and complex one, the game's readme file boils it down pretty succinctly (some might say too succinctly, given that the game's amputee undercover investigator describes one of his amorous encounters thus: "I was consumed with anger and lust. I didn't even really hear her screams of protest"). Yep, the creators of Critical Point are pretty clear about the beneficial effects of playing these sorts of games.
The readme file makes clear that it's all just a fantasy: "We would like to state clearly that we oppose abuse or violence against any individual or living creature regardless of gender or other distinguishing personal traits... Furthermore, we assert that sex is an important aspect of adult relationships, and that sexual fantasies shared consensually between adults can enhance the emotional bond of a such relationships." It continues, with what might be considered a bit of an understatement: "the completely fictional sexual relationships portrayed by this game's artwork do not always exhibit 'safe sex' practices, nor do they necessarily demonstrate the full range of sensitivity, communication and intimacy necessary to sustain a real life interpersonal relationship." Nevertheless, for anyone who would like to base their real life interpersonal relationships on a videogame depicting domination and rape fantasies, there are some real-life sex-tips: "Always protect yourself and others when engaged in sexual activity, and always follow the principles of 'safe sex'. Always treat your sexual partner(s) with consideration. Never use force to get what you want, whether your partner is a man or a woman."

Hentai games are then further broken down into sub-genres, such as Yaoi for boy on boy; Bishojo for pretty girls, and so on.
By comparison, the sexual activities on offer in the other two games chosen for research are more moderate, although the gameplay is probably more interesting. Transfer Student was originally released in the same year as Critical Point, and depicts the story of a young man drifting aimlessly through college, fantasising about women. It features a similarly branching narrative structure to Critical Point, but it's enlivened by the occasional freeform section in which you can stare at women in a bid to become so aroused that you can retire to the men's room to fantasise about them. It's also enlivened by the occasional bout of sex with your step-mother, depicted, once again, with partially animated stills.
Casual Romance Club, however, is the premium pick of the pack. Released at the end of last year, it is, according to the blurb, "the first dating-sim game released in Japan to feature a full English translation." It also features 12 pictures of naked girls on the box, and comes with a handsome hardback manual containing character biographies and plenty of advice, such as: "Relationships for only making love are wrong because some may want you to be responsible for it." Indeed, in spite of the naked girls on the box, this is a world away from the amputee rape in Critical Point. It's still, ultimately, about having sex with women but just like in real life you have to be willing to put in a bit more groundwork.
The narrative sees you participating in the Casual Romance Club, a school club formed "to offer a relaxed and enjoyable atmosphere where love and romance can be discovered and explored without fear or failure or rejection." Which means you've got four weeks to persuade your chosen girl (or girls) to get their kit off - and there's a girl for every taste here, from the bookish bespectacled Sidney, to ko-gal Clare, or the worryingly youthful Amanda, or even the mature charms of Sophie.

Interestingly, we shied away from tentacles. Perhaps it's not our thing?
It doesn't save unlocked images to a permanent gallery, as Critical Point does, but it is, in every other way, a more sophisticated experience. The game is a fairly typical dating game in which you have to woo your chosen honey by saying the right things. It rather artfully resembles an internet chatroom, with various windows offering different types of information, and at the key moments, the more prurient parts of images are tastefully pixellated out. Indeed, considering the plain-cover packaging, Casual Romance Club is remarkably coy, with most girls taking a lot of persuading to get to bed, and most of the pixellated-out sexual activities falling well within the normal bounds of taste and decency. For porn, anyway. There's even a parallel translation function for people who'd like to hone their language skills to graduate to playing these games in their original language.
Despite the differences in narrative, sexual mores and gameplay between even these three games, there are undeniable similarities: the bizarre internal logic; the conversational non-sequiturs that lead suddenly to sexual activity; but mostly the sense of mild disappointment. Judged by the standards of conventional porn, especially of the sort that's now freely available to anyone with an internet connection, these games demand a monumental amount of patience. Sure, those sickos who get their kicks by googling for amputee rape images might find their thing in games like Critical Point (a google image search for research purposes only turns up a Final Fantasy XII pack shot and a picture of Jean-Luc Picard, for example). But for the rest of us, it's difficult not to feel underwhelmed when the only reward for patiently plodding through acres of mundane text and/or stultifying game mechanics is one or two semi-animated cartoon pictures.
So in the end, this experiment doesn't reveal any startling insights into Hentai. These games are pretty much as you'd imagine interactive anime porn to be: more amusing than arousing, and not very entertaining as videogames. But then if you can imagine interactive anime porn, why would you need any of this stuff?
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/looks over shoulder
/goes to read article
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+1 to Eurogamer for having the balls to do something like this
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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In my "list of things I never expected EG to cover", this was near the top. Just below stamp collecting and above existential psychology.
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goes off to chick the nips out..
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That's.....rrrright....
Anyway, I remember a few years ago there was a lot of hype for a game coming out on pc where the protagonist was a buxom lady in a sort of 3D adventure style game...
And no, it wasn't tomb raider...
Can't remember what it was, I think she got naked during the game anyway...Not sure...
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wow Eurogamer covers all games.
but still... WOW o_O
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;_;
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Dave - you are one filthy dime store hood
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/never dreampt these things even existed. O_o
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Holy Guacamole!
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Well Hentai games are part of the game industry in Japan, so why not. Something to keep going teemage boys during puberty, until they become men, get married, get a job for Square Eunix or Bandai and then divorce.
Good on you Eurogamer for writing that article.
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well....someone had to say it....
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Euroclicker!
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MORE TWINCEST.
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/coat
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Enjoy. (That'll be a five hundred yen, please)
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Enjoy your fapping, you MONSTERS.
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No, wait, that's not quite right. \o?
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I find this stuff funny, as opposed to offensive or disturbing.
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"Lick! Thrust!..."
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Never the less good article ... it's good to see how you (EG) can have a "serious" vision about these "games". Only in UK u find such good quality if opinions...
(sorry for bad eng...)
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Semen-y.
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/won'tsomebodypleasethinkofthechildren?
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Hmmm, I need to calm down. Maybe I should go have a nice refreshing w- NOOOO. BEGONE, DEMON.
/goes outside to flagellate himself
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Porn in games just doesn't work (see the painfully juvenille ending in Fahrenheit / Hot Coffee etc) so why do these people bother?
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I JUST WANNA TOUCH WITCHES, DAMMIT.
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Back to your one handed typing pathetic twat
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These games account for something like 25% of all software sales in Japan. That's why.
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Fair enough but the game was awful.
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Semen-y. "
Can someone confirm is something like this actually happened? 0_o
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You have a problem with that? I have no problem with porn per se its the grim subcultures that i do have a problem with. Its an open forum so im entitled to my opinion.
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Look out for the classic line:
"Aah! My breast is slimy by semen!"
NSFW, of course.
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sadly, it did. And no, don't bother. Just... don't ask.
@ FlamingCarrot
I resent that statement!
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Sure plenty Japanese porn seems pretty damned repellant, but it's still just fantasies. If people want to fantasise in repulsive ways that is their perogative.
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lol
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/wanders off
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"Sure plenty Japanese porn seems pretty damned repellant, but it's still just fantasies. If people want to fantasise in repulsive ways that is their perogative."
Amen. To go one step further tho, I believe that if you're not hurting anyone, and everyone involved is consenting, I'm quite happy for people to do whatever it is they get off on.
@dirigiblebill
"Porn in games may be a bit off."
Why is that? I agree it may not be right in the US, since ratings are advisory only, but in the UK, where it is illegal to buy adult games when underage, I don't see why not...
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Absoloutely brilliant. I nearly wet myself laughing so much.
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MORE LIKE ERO-GAMER
MIRITE?!
/coat
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just read the whole thing, god damn that was awesome
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But games specifically made for breast fondlage? Rock on.
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KG
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I'm thinking in terms of quality control, not age limits. I wouldn't applaud the spread of porn to mainstream gaming because porn is crude and superficial (not to mention generally sexist). Erotica can be just as explicit but manages to be intelligent with it.
It's all a matter of personal taste, of course
PS. I'm aware that I'm starting to contradict what I wrote in the Lost in Blue review thread. Just in case anyone wants to pick me up on it.
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There wasn't even one ladynipple in that article. THAT'S what makes me angry.
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nsfw for people with no common sence
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I found an obscure VHS rip on a P2P network, but it wasn't watchable.
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York: Oh snap!! Great link.
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Pfft!
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"I'm thinking in terms of quality control, not age limits. I wouldn't applaud the spread of porn to mainstream gaming because porn is crude and superficial (not to mention generally sexist). Erotica can be just as explicit but manages to be intelligent with it."
I see your point. From that perspective I think its really just a case of developers/movie makers acting intelligently with how they introduce erotica/porn into media. And theres always films where nudity just wasn't necessary, I think we're starting to see that with games too. (Specifically thinking of any Van Damme film. They ALWAYS show his bare ass, not really for plot reasons, but it did get the ladies to watch... Apparently!)
PS: Porn is a synonym of erotica
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Because Fate/Stay Night (and Tsukihime for that matter) are more about the plot than the H-Scenes.
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Mmm that was a good one.
List is also missing Seasons of Sakura which i thought was quite good.
I mean...er...
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Sorry just thought of something... I agree not to take it to mainstream, but thats quite unlikely to happen anyways. Even films are not really in mainstream either, and the ones that tried (Baise Moi - I'm looking at you), were awful. Although if a developer wants to make a good game with good gameplay and lots of nudity/sex/violence, then sell it in an adult store, then I don't really have a problem with that.
But I will admit to buying it "for the gameplay" just as much as buying porn "for the acting"
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">http://www .youtube.com/watch?v=r8be8pL0lhw
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DOTE UP A CAT.
Sexy Beach 3 is awesome.
Someone else mentioned Rapeman, im sure the RAWs of the manga got uploaded somewhere at some point. The anime aswell. So it is out there.
Also the comments here are far less reactionary than Ive come to expect from EG. Good job people.
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It certainly is.
It cruelly takes advantage of, and manipulates, male needs.
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but yeah, I've played a few several years ago, and to be honest, they generally left alot to be desired gameplay wise, though the more complex looking RPG ones you just couldn't get in english (damn, I wanted those bunny-elves LOL)...
Porn in the mainstream? That would be the end of the world wouldn't it lol Will it ever get there? LOL it won't because the (legal) sex industry is aimed squarely at the adult market (18+ with a few pervy kids nickin their dad's porn collection)... or something...
I can't remember where this point was going... damn those naked bunny-elves
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I don't think the article was particularly well-researched, nor was it meant to be. The writer just picked three random games from the current crop of western releases (True Love has been out of print for years) and, er, wrote about them.
You or I could probably have written a more informative article. Well, you could have. I don't know anything about this filth. Nothing.
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It's true, FabLun is as clean as a whistle. Nothing to do with the seedy underbelly of the forum.
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Sometimes it comes with MULTIPLE LAYERS and makes you WORK HARD.
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Sure thing. I can appreciate (note 'appreciate' doesn't necessarily equal 'like') a well-crafted game regardless of any gratuitous nipple coverage, providing said nipple coverage doesn't find its way into the hands of minors.
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It's my homepage.
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I think his main falling was when he tried writing about them. What is there to say? I would have just put up a gallery, if I'd wrote it. Images are worth a thousand words.
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Truelove was a novel little RPG-lite thingy, but again batshit-crazy. I couldn't help thinking, when I played it years ago, that they could've spent more time on the mechanics and romance stuff; instead of spending it drawing lurid pictures. That would've been a better game, or indeed "dating sim", than the pr0no they actually produce/d.
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"...providing said nipple coverage doesn't find its way into the hands of minors."
Yes. Because the last thing we want is for minors to see covered nipples!
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Have you ever met any males who complained?
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Indeed. He could have just provided a link to J-List or Something Awful and been done with it.
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Why hide behind candy-coated Japanese terms.
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If you want naughty DS games, Joystiq had an interesting article.
None of them look that good, but it's a good start.
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Why was'nt Kana reviewed?
Imouto ;_;
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And again Rapeman rocks.
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/pervs
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funnies
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[link url=http://en.wikiped ia.org/wiki/Hentai
]http://en.wikiped ia.org/wiki/Hentai
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(for the people with tenticle envy)
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[link url=http://www.gmu.edu/facstaff/sexual/brochures/Worl dStats2005.pdf
]http://ww w.gmu.edu/facstaff/sexual/broch...[/link]
which says in 1993 in the UK, 23% of 430 North London women reported that they were forced into sex, while in Japan in 2000, 6.2% of 1287 Yokohama women reported that they had been.
Admittedly, this is reported rapes, rather than all rapes including those unreported, and the Japanese police are notoriously unconcerned about rape, and their legal system is notoriously hard to secure rape convictions under (although I seem to recall hearing that the conviction rate here is only about 2%). Even so, there's still a sizeable disparity between figures there. I'm not saying bent games stop rape, I'm just saying maybe there's some correlation and we shouldn't be so quick to judge it bad.
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They'll make wonderful thought-provoking presents
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Interesting point, one I actually very much agree with... Though I do have to point out that honour is a very important aspect of Japanese culture, and in that sense I think reports of rape made, in addition to those investigated would be lower than in say the UK.
I read a paper a while ago that looked into the relation between porn and rape:
[link url=http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=9130 13
]http://pa pers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?a...[/link]
Download at the bottom.
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/cums on sock
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Does ANYONE really get turned on by drawings of school girls having sex?
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/expects to see Tumbleweed pop up and go 'OMGWTF?'
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BTW nice work EG, and thankyou New York, you've made this comments section hilarious.
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"Fahrenheit's bit wasn't a cinematic masterpiece but I thought it worked decently in the game's context. It's certainly more mature than was most games have attempted with regards to the subject matter."
context? it was so far out of context it was silly! there was no development between the two people involved (we are talking about the end sex scene right) that whole game started off well, but just decended into stupid. I don't see how its any more mature than God of Wars awful attempt at it (which incidently makes me dislike the game).
Not to mention the fact that one of the protagonists was A WALKING F***ING CORPSE!!! at the time the copulation took place. Christ almightly, that game went so badly wrong. We couldn't stop playing it. It was like watching a car crash unfold in slow motion.
I thought the boobies in God of War fitted in quite well. I took it as a tongue in cheek nod to the gratuitous nudity in films like Conan.
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Do you not mean sad teenage kids and 40 year old blokes who still live in their parents basement?
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And this is different from games how? Muscular males single-mindedly massacring opposition, whether aliens or other males. Whenever women appear in games they usually have big tits (Tomb Raider, the DOAXXX series) or else their games do not sell well (Beyond Good and Evil; various adventure games like Syberia and TLJ).
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Dude, they're naked chicks. I think you're over-analysing
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Nice one!
Peej
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Fantastic!
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No, they're DRAWINGS of naked SCHOOLGIRLS.
there's a difference.
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Good job using the oldest insult on the internet and completly invalidating any worthwhile opinions that you may have had.
OMG MOMS BASEMENT LOL
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I dont have an argument.
Im merely trying to figure out who'd be sad enough to find this stuff titulating.
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Come now, your trolling and badly at that, if you really wanted to know why both men and women enjoy hentai then you would have asked, not gone down the path of "all hentai is of under-aged schoolgirls who are raped". Which made you look like a fucktard in the eyes of anyone with more than 10 braincells.
Its a fetish, get over it.
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Not one penis between them.
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There's no understanding 'em.
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If anyone anywhere let hentai dehumanise women then there was already something wrong there to begin with, much like the age-old videogames = violence theory.
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Carefull now.
Is it worring that this is the busiest comments thread on eurogamer?!?
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No, i didnt say anything of the sort. I said, does anyone get turned on by drawings of school girls having sex?
Ignore the schoolgirl bit, and you're still left with drawings.
But you've answered my question i guess. Yes kids who post on gaming forums find drawings of people having sex a turn on.
I didnt realise people outside of japan actually got excited by this stuff, i thought it was people watching it for a laugh. I was obviously wrong.
Dunno if i feel any better or worse about the state of humanity now though.
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Anyone want to buy it off me?
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The sky is freakin' falling.
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You seem awfully naive to some of the more debased elements of real life porn to be offended and confused by cartoons having sex.
Also it was'nt you that said this then "No, they're DRAWINGS of naked SCHOOLGIRLS. " or was that my imagination?
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"Its already been mentioned but alot of the sexual harrasment and rape cases are never brought to the attention of the authorities. Thats something to do with the social structure and culture of Japan not cartoon porn."
Thats what I said and if you read my post, I said it was a cultural thing as well. Follow the link to that guys thesis however and he argues that sex crime is decreasing as porn becomes more widespread.
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Yes but i didnt say anything about rape (as was implied).
are they not drawings?
and are they not schoolgirls then?
Funny, looks like drawings of schoolgirls to me.
Next you'll be telling me they're photos of real women?
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If by "troll" you mean "someone who has a different opinion to that of the majority" then yes i fall into that category on this forum.
It seems that if you disagree with people or ask questions, then you're a troll.
I just dont get how/why people can get off on drawings. Its a new one on me. I knew it existed, but i thought purely in japan and teenage boys who couldnt find pictures of real girls on the internet.
Obviously it's more popular than i thought.. and that i find quite a scary prospect.
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"I don't enter the comments section that often, but isn't smelly a pretty notorious troll? Just leave him be."
Hahahahaha! Absolutely classic...
Coming from someone that starts threads like this:
[link url=http://www.eurogamer.net/forum_thr ead_posts.php?thread_id=82833&category_id=71
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Explains a lot really.
Wonders how many other children do this.
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Ignoring the trolls.
You seemed upset when i said its drawings of schoolgirls. But to me, that's what it looks like.
Obviously its drawings (no-one will contest that), but they do look like schoolgirls.
Im not trying to troll here or something, i just dont understand how that is in any way erotic?
Well any more than a drawing of mickey mouse rimming donald anyhows?
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+1
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Yeah, decent article. Though it'd have been nice if they'd mentioned visual novels, and that not all 18 rated Japanese games are crass porn. And for a bluffer's guide they sure didn't mention that many essential titles...
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I'm obviously a bit naieve on these things, so i'll educate myself - maybe then i could understand.
What would you consider to be the top 3 essential titles of the genre (in english please)?
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All this "OMFGWTFBBQ how do you get turned on by drawings" talk has clearly avoided the fact that there's been erotic art designed to turn people on for as long as there's been any other art; are you saying you find it inconceivable that people found, for example, nudes by Botticelli or Rubens or the many erotic sketches by Klimt arousing in their time and context? All you need is an appreciation of the style; there's nothing deviant about that.
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Seriously, the fact that that so much cartoon porn exists - and much of it violent, featuring small girls, and that every tiny convenience store in Japan has 30 or so of those magazines (right next to the pachinko magazines) says a lot about the sexual depravity of Japanese males.
There, I've said it. And I live in and love Japan.
According to Wikipedia, Hentai is a Japanese word that can mean 'change of shape', 'abnormality' or 'metamorphosis'.
That's the literal translation. The best translation I can think of would be "pervert" or "perverted".
Oh and 10+ to EG for covering this sick filth. Even though most publications wouldn't touch this stuff with a ten yard stick it is part of gaming culture.
You guys deserve a prize for best gaming site or something like that.
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and people who post on this forum it seems.
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I thought they were meant for hilarious hijinks!
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I'd give an arm and a leg for some amputee porn.
Hahahahahahaha. Seriously though, porn with real ladies is better.
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Oh noes! People like sex! Teh human race is DOOMED!
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Mind you jessica rabbit was hot.
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Even posting multiple times on this sad little thread.
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I did. Personally, I think provoking people (whether troll or not), is a weird thing to do. If you get your kicks on it fine, whatever. To then boast about it in the forums, is downright childish.
Like mouse said, "What do you want, a fucking medal?".
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Have you ever met any males who complained?
No but i'm right, yes?
It really does fuck me off the whole 'degrading to women' thing, it's no less degrading to men IMO but as the media is 99% female/homo dominated that sort of thing can never be talked about ...
Have to say that I LOLed when I saw the amount of comments on this thread when I got to work this morning
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"It's easy to condemn the apparent Japanese fascination with rape/sexual violence etc. but perhaps it's like violent games in general in that getting it out of your system without hurting anyone tends to mean fewer actual incidents occur (this is of course debateable, but I would argue for this idea). For example, a quick websearch got me this:
[link url=http://ww w.gmu.edu/facstaff/sexual/broch...
]http://ww w.gmu.edu/facstaff/sexual/broch...[/link]
which says in 1993 in the UK, 23% of 430 North London women reported that they were forced into sex, while in Japan in 2000, 6.2% of 1287 Yokohama women reported that they had been.
Admittedly, this is reported rapes, rather than all rapes including those unreported, and the Japanese police are notoriously unconcerned about rape, and their legal system is notoriously hard to secure rape convictions under (although I seem to recall hearing that the conviction rate here is only about 2%). Even so, there's still a sizeable disparity between figures there. I'm not saying bent games stop rape, I'm just saying maybe there's some correlation and we shouldn't be so quick to judge it bad. "
2 things:
1/ Having those two sets of people perceive the same question in anything like the same way is pretty darn unlikely given the MASSIVE cultural differences. At times, Japanese girls can come across as so submissive as to make me think they wouldn't know the difference between un/forced ...
2/ North London. I think you know what I'm saying here ...
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Geddit??
/ drinks coffee, smirks
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"Oh may you finally done it. lol! I get the appeal of these games but i find it sad that some gamers have to resort to these types of games. I mean come on just turn of your PS3 for a while and go outside and talk to a girl."
Have you seen/talked to yer average English girl?! :s
"Or hell keep your PS3 on just buy Super rub a dub and your well on your way to gettin a girl in your couch. The rest is up to you but buyin into this is inexcusable. lol! I gotta admit i sometimes look under Taki's skirt when she kicks high but thats about it lol! "
Indeed. How many of us were getting a semi for Chun-Li and her legs in SFII?
/holds hand up
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Those legs o_0
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Those legs o_0 "
Well Chun-Li was pretty cute and played to my hosiery fetish so I had no chance ...
That model just weirded me out so badly lol
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@ bonker
Arguably most porn represents (undistorted) male fantasies, but I see what you're saying. The feminist old guard tend to depict porn as the latest in mysoginistic tyranny, when in reality it can be demeaning to either sex.
I don't agree that the media is biased towards women and homosexuals.
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Not by PeaPri, there's also Wordsworth, a fun 3D dungeon crawler which, whilst not up to the standards of Ultima Underworld, has excellent cel art and a good story. Don't go near the anime, though! The WW game has an unofficial translation out there, but you have to pay for it.
Uh, yeah, I guess this is the point where I admit I've played some of these games. ;P Seriously, it's not all senseless shagging. Kana and Crescendo have really nice stories and characters, the latter especially also has some superb art. PeaPri has put out their fair share of rubbish though, like most of the rest of the games. X-Change can sod right off. Personally I'm more looking forward to Odin Sphere...
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"Arguably most porn represents (undistorted) male fantasies, but I see what you're saying. The feminist old guard tend to depict porn as the latest in mysoginistic tyranny, when in reality it can be demeaning to either sex.
I don't agree that the media is biased towards women and homosexuals. "
Well they're defo anti-men IMO which kinda leaves them pro-everything else ...
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Interesting in that it's also granted a revealing insight into the age demographic of your average EG comment writers.
Or perhaps that's just me.
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At least I've found myself a new insult which few people will understand...
"YAOI LOVER!!!"
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Also: Yay to comment section
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Nothing interesting here, just walk on. Nothing special, I thought it was pretty public knowledge what Hentai games are?
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Let me guess, right about the time you lost your virginity?
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Best place for some side-splittingly funny (and punishingly critical) reviews of these terrible abberations is here:
[link url=http://www.somethingawful.com/d/hentai-game-reviews /index.php
]http://ww w.somethingawful.com/d/hentai-g...[/link]
On a more personal note, I suggest that anyone buying these games should have to submit a DNA sample. That way when their semen is found in some abducted schoolgirl's corpse they'll be so much easier to find....
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The closest thing we have in the west that is in any way related is a handful of decent interactive fiction games, and little glimpses of a better future in games like Heavy Rain.
It's a shame the article was, ultimately, just a superficial glimpse into this gaming genre.
The truth is there is a very wide range of stuff out there, from those that are little more than animated comics on computers with virtually zero interaction, to games that aim to simulate a (for example) college life with a lot of freedom and activity, and everything in between.
And you've got everything from character dramas with zero sex and great stories to non-stop mindless tentacle rape porn.
This was kind of like watching a sci-fi 50s B-movie and Star Trek VI and saying "wow, sci-fi is pretty crap".
I happily admit most of the stuff out there is crap, but this is a universal truth in general.
Honestly I think you'll find in hentai games a genre that simply doesn't exist in the west. By this I mean games that focus primarily on characters and their relationships. We westerners think this is pansy-ass crap for chicks and opt for the mindless "get to the point" approach whether we're talking about action or porn. But in truth nothing gets you involved like a good story, no sex scene moves you as much as the one where you know and care for the characters. The death of a stranger is an action scene - the death of someone you know is a tragedy.
I'd say hentai games are an evolution of books and comics, while our western games are an evolution of sports and, at best, films.