Super Smash Bros. Brawl Comments by Tom Bramwell

I knew I shoulda kept that Wii.

So, release date?

Do not want.

I imported this and got the amazingly-useful-sounding codejunkies Freeloader, which doesn't work for me (and a few others) despite having a new Wii and the same firmware and whatelse as others it does work for, so don't let that put you off. Just don't order from codejunkies directly would be my advice, abysmal service in my experience, and the returns process is taking a....... long..... time....

Zsinj, have you tried booting your freeloader into alternative boot mode? That's where you stick it in once, it does the funny screen wipe thing twice, then you eject it and put it back in for another two screen wipes, then try smash bros?

Worth a try.

As for Brawl - It's got a few minor annoyances but other than that, it gets a 10 from me!

I've played nearly 40 hours of this already, and I haven't even touched Brawl mode. Beat that!

What? A Nintendo game featuring Mario? I'm so surprised.. zzz..

3 page review for a beat-em-up?

Review out of the blue shocker...
and Ellie was owed a good game to review for once on the wii..
not much chance of that now.

What? A mario game featuring mario? I'm so surprised .. zzz..

I expected a 10...
Well I'm getting it as soon as I get a Wii.

Been loving this game since it's US release, Nintendo Europe need to sort their fucking lives out.

9/10? Ouch!

Can you hear the stampeding fanboys?

Permanent hats.

It's really good, this.

"Also prevalent in combat are power-ups, including the NES Superscope"

Sorry to be picky, but was that meant to be 'SNES'? :[

Nice review tho.

I'm debating whether to get this. It's getting great reviews, but I just can't shake that kiddy feeling I get everytime I see it. I'm getting old now and I question the validity of content like this for my collection, regardless of how good it is.

Still waiting on my play-asia delivery

Good to know it's good anyway.

been playing away at the subspace emissary mode one this, man, its so much fun and a bit mental!

"Sorry to be picky, but was that meant to be 'SNES'? :[ "

Er, yes it is. Sorry. :(

"What? A mario game featuring mario?"

What? A retarded commenter making a retarded comment?

I'm still not sure about this one. I mean, I love the Nintendo characters and all that; I just don't really like playing beat 'em ups that much. Soul Calibur II was the last one I bought and I pretty much went through the story mode once and haven't played it since.

If I'm playing multi-player I'm far, far more likely to get out Wii Sports or (soon) Mario Kart. In a way, it's mainly the fact this has gone down so spectacularly well in the US and Japan that has me interested.

Tom, any news on PAL release date yet?

/plays US version

@Rash'

I know what you mean, given that I'm struggling to get into the excellent Mario Galaxy.

When will somebody make a brawl style game with a roster of non Nintendo characters.

The headline characters are great, but a lot of the lesser ones feel like they are scraping the barrel. I would love to see a truely multiformat Brawl style game with charcters from all of Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, Namco, Capcom, Konami, Sega ect.

i know it will never happen, but heres to dreaming

9? That's only one more than the crap score Mario Kart got...

Back to my REAL next-gen console...

LeD, It eats me up. They're excellent games I know but when my girl or family walk in and see me playing them I feel so geeky. I know I shouldn't care, but you know what I do. I'm tired of defending gaming and me playing these games makes me feel like I have to.

how can a 3 page review of a 9/10 game only have 3 screen shots in it

@zsinj

I had the same problem, but listen to viper_h, because that worked for me, it gives the alternative method in the manual, I tried it (why would it make a difference inserting it twice I thought), then it worked fine.

Well, when I say fine, I mean in black and white until I routed it through my DVD recorder to sort out the signal incompatability...

Didn't have any control difficulties, especially if you edit it a bit for yourself (stupid tap jump that's been annoying me since melee), also, I have no idea what they mean about inconsistencies in the cutscenes...

@myiagros

Give is a few more years and there might be another smash bros. like that, just without the top sony and microsoft characters, unless they're really desperate.

There's an img tag shortage at the moment, due to the credit crunch.

lol, what a try hard review, none of the jokes landed imo

@Rash'

I think you should man up and grow a pair. If 'your girl' and family find your hobby so juvenile (and you're so insecure that you let their comments affect you) then I doubt it matters whether your playing Mario or a space marine - to them, either way you're still 'playing games' (with all the juvenile connotations those words have).

It doesn't say 'import review' so it must be due for a shock PAL release tomorrow. Amirite?

Didn't know this was released in the EU/UK. What a pleasant surprise.

Where's the Wii's Pro Evo review?, the game's out tomorrow. Reviewing that is far more important then the dateless Brawl, regardless how good it is.

I think I must be the only person on earth who hated the first one..

Silly little game!

Is this review written in English?

What, or indeed who, the hell is Subspace Emissary?

In 2008 a 2D beat-em-up deserves no more than a 3 out of 10. Are people seriously going to spend £30 on this?!

Yes.

moar liek super smash bros lawl, lolamirite?

9/10.

So Halo 3 is better than this, then.

LOL @ EG scoring

I imagine it's a 9 when compared to other fighting games, not FPSes.

Rash': Whilst I wouldn't take MoGamer2006's slightly harsh tone, I think he's right; exactly which games do you have in mind as somehow looking more legitimate to non-gamers? Only in my experience, a person who fundamentally disapproves of videogame culture will perceive a testosterone-soaked alien-killing shooter or a tech-head racer as being every bit as sad and geeky as a cartoon platformer, just in a different way. Unless you're willing to forgo any and all "gamers' games" and stick exclusively to outsider-friendly fare like Wii Sports and Lost: The Videogame, then you should probably start forgetting what other people think and just buy games that actually interest you for their content, rather than their image.

Anyways, good read, that review. I'm unlikely to bother waiting much longer for the UK release, so I might just bite the bullet, buy the Freeloader and import the US version, which I will then play and play forever, in the same way I've been playing Melee since I bought it with my Cube seven years ago. Best value-for-money series of games ever.

I agree with groovemeister, this should have got a 10. Where's the justice????????????????

another nintendo game, another comments thread full of negativity about how it's 'kiddy' and 'not a real game'. why do you people bother? why not just ignore the threads?

anyway, game looks amazing, would so love to play it... is it ever gonna get released over here?

edit: wow, wrong thread

I've re-read the review and vast swathes of it still make little sense. Maybe it's because I've never played a SSB game before but that's no excuse for really poor writing. :(

Not as good as Halo then...

yep it's pretty close to brain training actually these days, gameplay-wise.

Anyway, looks realy good, and I wish I had time to play it. Damn you 360 and your ultra-awesome games' library!

Lost Odyssey is stealing my life..., and I'm still studying it

10/10 for me. Insane amounts of depth and replayability. There's no reason why any self-respecting Wii owner (or fan of the original) shouldn't get this.