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27 March, 2008

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Kaparen
27/03/08 @ 15:23
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Who cares, if it's good then it's good. If it's crap then it's crap, no review can change that.
haowan
27/03/08 @ 15:23
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Hey! Did you guys see that other 360 thread? OMG!
Rash'
27/03/08 @ 15:25
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Muddtallica, The games that I think work better for my life style are games like Everyday Shooter, Ico, Shadow of the Colosuss, Rez, Portal and Killer 7. There's a maturity to these games that forgo the stereotypes that plague the image of an enthusiast gamer. The family and girl friend don't say anything. It's just I know the stereotypes that they have difficulties overcoming when they see me gaming, so I guess I now make a conscience decide to seek content that helps bridge the gap between their world and mine. It's not that I'm immature or insecure, it's that I want the different aspects of my life to make sense.
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haowan
27/03/08 @ 15:25
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God bless the ultimate awesome 360 games library! Oh god bless you Microsoft and your amazing 360 console! Oh god bless you!
caligari
27/03/08 @ 15:27
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LeD wrote:

"9/10? Ouch!

Can you hear the stampeding fanboys?"


No...are you wearing slippers today?
RamblinSydRumpo
27/03/08 @ 15:29
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3 pages for a game with no confirmed release date. Where's the Viking review? I want to know if it's worth toddling down to the shops TOMORROW and parting with my hard earned cash!!
penhalion
27/03/08 @ 15:30
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Obvious question, though I'm sure someone must have already asked it.

Why review this now if it has no european release date?

It's not like ths review will be remembered when the game finally arrives now is it.
bitesize
27/03/08 @ 15:31
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rash: you decide what games to play based on what people are going to think when they see you playing them??? that's the most bizarre thing i've ever heard.


koopa trooper: ok, i'll bite. why is this a 'non-game'? what other titles do you think are actual games? what differentiates this from them?


Rash'
27/03/08 @ 15:32
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Anyway, the game looks great! I want!!!
Razz
27/03/08 @ 15:34
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Nintendo = Amazing
Rash'
27/03/08 @ 15:34
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bitesize, well obviously not. I buy games that interest me, otherwise there wouldn't be any games worth getting. I have Mario Galaxy for example and that's brilliant!
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bitesize
27/03/08 @ 15:35
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well that's what your previous post said - you only play these so-called 'mature' games cos you don't want your family to see you playing anything 'kiddy'. pretty strange to me...
gingerlink
27/03/08 @ 15:38
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@Rash

Why not get them involved? It's what I've always done and works a lot better...

Well, apart from later when they want to keep playing as well...
Rash'
27/03/08 @ 15:39
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bitesize, I don't know. I have a point but I've got to run so will have to get back to you later tonight (GMT). Apologies for highjacking the thread.
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zsinj
27/03/08 @ 15:43
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@viper_h, gingerlink

For me the Freeloader doesn't do the funny coloured bar wipe thing (I've seen how it should work) at all, no matter how many time i put the disc in consecutively. I'm just hoping that a replacement disc will sort it out, but nothing so far.
smelly
27/03/08 @ 15:50
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@Rash:

I can see where you're coming from.. ish. So i'll honor you a proper reply as opposed to just doing my usual slating.

I get embarrassed being a gamer when i read some of the childish comments from kids (usually 360 owners) on these forums. I mean all this "not as good as halo" shit and going on about score being 9/10 not 10/10.. sigh. It's embarrassing!

But I dont see why get embarrassed over a graphical style?

I'm grown up. I have no problems going to the cinema to watch "little nemo" or "cars", or any other "kiddy" family pixar cartoon. And i certainly dont have a problem playing family friendly games. Especially stuff like this which requires a LOT of practice to get anywhere with it.

Personally i'm more embarrassed as a gamer playing games with unnecessary violence (like the american version of killer7 or something like manhunt 2), as the ONLY people violent games like that are designed to appeal to are pre-pubecessant teenagers who get turned on by gore and think it's the best thing ever and somehow make an average game (or movie for that matter) great.

Like it or lump it. Game are toys. A vast majority of gamers still SEEM to be children/teenagers (look at these forums). So the vast majority of them still get woodies over games which are nothing but grey and brown with lots of gore to make them feel like they're grown ups.

Personally. I dont care about graphical style (apart from, as stated, when it's overtly "adult".. translation: Covered in red pixels to make the kids playing it feel grown up). Its the GAME that matters not the colour of the pixels.

Being "cartoony" didnt stop "little nemo" from being a great movie. And indeed it would look weird with realistic graphics.

Being cartoony doesnt stop smash bros from being a great game. And again.. It would look weird with realistic graphics. All that jumping around and stuff.. with "realistic" graphics? Nope.. Would look crap.

The problem with realism.. is you're stuck with reality.. And reality is boring.

The fun with games is that you're only limited by the designers imagination. And if all games were stuck in realism.. That's a very boring gaming world you're describing.

If all games went "realistic" that'd be when i stop playing.. As all imagination would be gone from the worlds i'm playing in.

Now watch some (usually 360 owning kid) show how "mature" they are by replying to this post with "haha smelly's an old far" or "smellys on a fanboy rant again" or something equally kiddy designed to try to upset me.. lol
JackyB
27/03/08 @ 15:52
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Zsinj - sounds stinky. I hope mines OK. I have got my freeloader but am waiting on no more heroes and smash bros. Hope they work. Shoulda bought just one game to test but couldn't resist!
JackyB
27/03/08 @ 15:56
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Smelly - the two best games I have played recently are Mario Galaxy and Call of Duty 4. Two things spring to mind. "Variety is the spice of life", and "Each to their own"
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Muddtallica
27/03/08 @ 16:00
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Rash': Those are fair choices, and excellent illustrations of titles that break the traditional boundaries of videogame appeal; still, your implication that you've made a conscious decision to limit yourself to such titles in the name of compromise, at the expense of other games that under normal circumstances you'd be interested in. If that's because you feel that said non-traditional games are something your family can partipate in and enjoy with you, then fine, it's a fair compromise to make; if it's purely because you feel they'd judge you otherwise, then it isn't. That's my two cents...

Koopa Trooper: You appear to have whole-heartedly bought into the myth that Smash Bros is popular for its "Nintendo museum" aspects, rather than its qualities as a fighting game. Whilst I imagine that there are some players for whom this is true, it's not something that rings true to me, or indeed according to any of the reviews I've read of this game. I invested well over 300 hours into Melee, and I would have done the same with or without Mario and co headlining it...
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MBar
27/03/08 @ 16:00
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Wow, I'm getting more "ignore poster" clicks in this thread than the Call of Jihad one. Trolls galore in here.
smelly
27/03/08 @ 16:11
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JackyB - the two best games I have played recently are Mario Galaxy and Call of Duty 4.

I love those two games myself too... Which was kinda my point.. Grown ups can enjoy anything regardless of style.. And variety is good. As I said.. it's when EVERY game goes "realistic" it'll get boring and i'll stop playing (lack of variety = bad)

Oh.. And just for the record.. when it goes the other way like it did in the 8/16 bit era where every game was a platformer.. that's bad too.


(although cod4 is the ONLY fps i've really liked since halflife 2).
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smelly
27/03/08 @ 16:14
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@MBar : "Trolls galore in here."

You should see what it's like when a wii game gets a bad score...
Kryon
27/03/08 @ 16:15
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I never liked Smash Bros, Powerstone pissed on it from a great height imo.
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Muddtallica
27/03/08 @ 16:20
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Koopa: Sorry, perhaps I wasn't clear enough; I'm saying that it's a myth that the extensive fanservice is the main/only reason that Smash Bros is popular. Yes, it is a big part of the appeal, and I do suspect that there is a minority of people that actually get more out of that than they do out of the main game, but for the vast majority of critics and gameplayers, the core of Smash Bros' appeal is its outstanding gameplay and abundance of modes and options; that's something that's borne out by any review you might care to read, or the testimony of any of its fans, and I feel it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise.
haowan
27/03/08 @ 16:23
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hehe outstanding gameplay
Waldo
27/03/08 @ 16:24
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Ignore lists are for wimps.
Muddtallica
27/03/08 @ 16:28
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haowan: Yep, that's what I said, you snarky little tool.
Futaba
27/03/08 @ 16:32
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greenthumb
27/03/08 @ 16:36
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just checked amazon.co.uk and it has this down as a 30th April 2008 release date.... is this wrong? surely not mario kart, wii fit and smash brothers all in the same month
DrDamn
27/03/08 @ 16:36
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I didn't like the GC version - though I accept that may be related to the limited chance I had to try multiplayer and the type of game it is. So I won't pick this up, it's not my bag. Just gonna jump in on the whole visual style thing though.

For some people visual style is a big part of the game experience. If it is not a style they like then it does affect their enjoyment regardless of the underlying gameplay aspects. To lambast someone who feels this way is as bad as someone who lambast you for playing a "kiddie" game. Bit of understanding on both sides is needed.
bitesize
27/03/08 @ 16:46
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dr. damn: that's missing the point a bit, no-one said anything about ppl not liking a cartoony style, that's fair enough, it's personal taste. were talking about being embarrassed to be seen playing cartoony games, which i can only put down to insecurity.
XdarXideX
27/03/08 @ 16:49
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Holy shit! NintendoGamer didn't give this a 10/10!? Shocking!

The game looks and sounds like nothing great, in my opinion.
asphaltcowboy
27/03/08 @ 16:55
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smelly: why do you always cite 360 owners as some kind of devil worshiping hate mongers?
Les
27/03/08 @ 16:55
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"Why review this now if it has no european release date?

It's not like ths review will be remembered when the game finally arrives now is it."

By then they'll do a EU review and subtract a point or two...
DrDamn
27/03/08 @ 16:56
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@bitesize
"no-one said anything about ppl not liking a cartoony style"

groovemeister effectively did. I think Rash' has gone on to describe that he actually likes the style just feels a bit embaressed, which is wrong. If you like it then enjoy it.
bitesize
27/03/08 @ 17:07
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? surely groovemeister was lambasting (good word btw, i've decided to use it myself) rash for being embarrassed about playing cartoony games, that was my reading of his post anyway - he said yoshi's island is one of his top games ever...

anyways, agree with yr last point, don't be embarrassed, play what you like!


(unless of course, you're a teenager and it may stop you getting laid to be seen playing cartoony games, i guess it's acceptable then ;-)

tachikoma
27/03/08 @ 17:10
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Oh noes, 9! The fanboys are coming for you Tom. Run!
gingerlink
27/03/08 @ 17:21
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I'm intrigued as to how they had games without lag, we're in Europe, most people you play against are gonna be in America. Although I havn't had players drop out mid-game, I can't say the game speed is normally it's usual self online most of the time...

@bitesize, so THAT'S it!

meh *goes back to enjoying smash bros.*
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mandeep100
27/03/08 @ 17:24
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big deal some people are calling this GOTY? i dont think so, ill stick with my xbox 360 thank you its all about ninja gaiden 2 for me and nothing else
dryden555
27/03/08 @ 17:25
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nice review but I still cant find a wii system to buy
secombe
27/03/08 @ 17:39
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Without wishing to sound like a stuck record, wouldn't it make more sense to actually review games coming out right about now that many of us want to know about, such as Pro Evo?
smelly
27/03/08 @ 17:46
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"smelly: why do you always cite 360 owners as some kind of devil worshiping hate mongers?"

I dont. That'd include myself in that category then wouldnt it?

But.. Oh.. I dunno.. perhaps read the posts in this thread.. and notice all the negative "trolling ones" are from the same people as you see in the 360 threads... It's not 360 owners i have a problem with.. it's 360 trolls.

Look for posts in this thread by: mandeep100, TraffordAvenger, XdarXideX, miiiguel

And they're the ones i DONT have on ignore (there's another 15 posts i cant see without logging out)

The ps3 owners seem to keep themselves to themselves though. :-)


"Oh noes, 9! The fanboys are coming for you Tom. Run!"

Notice not a single wii owner has mentioned the score though..
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haowan
27/03/08 @ 17:58
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groovemeister, page one, Halo 3 review comparison
MrED209
27/03/08 @ 18:09
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0% interest in this. Beat-'em-ups bore me. Never mind, eh?
smelly
27/03/08 @ 18:10
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@MrED209: But yet you made the effort to post?
Sl1pstream
27/03/08 @ 18:19
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I bought this last week after receiving my freeloader, it's awesome. It really is. Too bad the demos are so short.
Santino
27/03/08 @ 18:19
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melee still gets played regularly in our studio at uni, screw the haters who don't 'get' the game but can't seem to help coming into the thread to tell everyone their opinions, i can't wait for this to come out although we STILL NEED A RELEASE DATE :/
tachikoma
27/03/08 @ 18:32
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@smelly: The internet is enormous. ;)
smelly
27/03/08 @ 18:33
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"melee still gets played regularly in our studio at uni, screw the haters who don't 'get' the game but can't seem to help coming into the thread to tell everyone their opinions,"


It does seem strange that most of them are doign that.. especially when they seem to know nothing about said game.
spazmo
27/03/08 @ 18:35
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Not interested in this game. Just came in to say i prefer the PS3. Seeya.

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