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27 March, 2008

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J.C
27/03/08 @ 18:44
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Another wii review, that doesn't mention the visuals of the game.
Scimarad
27/03/08 @ 18:45
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Based on the Cube Super Smash Brothers game I think I just don't really 'get' these games. It was fun enough but I can't really imagine being fanatical about it.
smelly
27/03/08 @ 19:05
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>Another wii review, that doesn't mention the visuals of the game.

See .. when you review a great game like this.. Visuals dont matter - even when they're as great as this.

But on a distinctly average game.. say *censored* for example.. Then you care about the gfx.
kelly's_h
27/03/08 @ 19:07
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Melee was a blast but got a bit soulless when my friends didn't want to play it anymore. If it had online play I doubt I would have needed a sequel. Leaderboards for home run contest would have been fantastic.
FooAtari
27/03/08 @ 19:51
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@Santino
"screw the haters who don't 'get'"

Hope that doesn't mean anyone who doesn't like the game doesn't "get" it?

Chances are I won't really like it much, but then as you know I'm not much of a fighting game fan (except for IK+). Of course that doesn't make it a bad game

Im with you if by haters you mean fanboys/trolls of other systems. Tools.
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Santino
27/03/08 @ 19:59
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Hey Foo, yeah i meant the trolls. its fine not 'getting' a certain game, it just gets boring how every comments thread no matter what the game gets shat on by iditos, usually because of what system it is on rather than the game itself i may add.
Muddtallica
27/03/08 @ 20:23
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Foo, Santino: Well, that's just the crux of the whole issue, isn't it? I have no problem with anyone not liking any game; that's a subjective thing, and no-one has any cause to argue with that. The kicker is when people take that illogical extra step and decide that because they don't like it, then that means that it's a bad game worthy of censure, reviewers and other players be damned.

...then again, it's a somewhat futile point to make in the end, isn't it? After all, if it was part of human nature to realise that somebody else doesn't have to be wrong for you to be right, the world would be a much more pleasant place all round...
caligari
27/03/08 @ 21:24
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/wants

/checks bank balance

/cries

edit:

/cheers up again after reading half of the 'weird and wonderful' comments in this thread
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Landmaster
27/03/08 @ 21:43
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So its better than Galaxy but gets a whole mark less...


Fuck off Tom.
dk_rare
27/03/08 @ 21:47
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Easily one of the Games Of The Year ^_^ Best exclusive of this generation, a must own, everything we always wanted and all that. Now, if only we didn't have to wait until June :(
smelly
27/03/08 @ 22:50
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>So its better than Galaxy but gets a whole mark less...

Who cares?

*shudders* to think what will happen if okami doesnt get 10/10 for the wii version..
Davemanz
27/03/08 @ 23:35
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The game also includes lots of other characters. What's the problem?

The only thing in this thread I take issue with is smelly's denunciation of Killer7's "unnecessary" violence and gore. I don't know if you played the game much, smelly, but the plot of Killer7 is probably the darkest thing imaginable. I mean, you play as a multiple-personality assassin going around murdering thousands of people after some kind of weird viral holocaust wipes out the world, and your targets are child rapists half the time. Yeah, there's going to be some gore in there.
Pooley
27/03/08 @ 23:57
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What caused EG to drop a point with this game then? The text of the review seemed pretty much a 10/10 fanboi service all the way through.

Definitely gonna get this as soon as it's available, better dig out four Cube controllers in readyness.
smelly
28/03/08 @ 00:01
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@Davemanz: "Yeah, there's going to be some gore in there."


Not on the euro version there isnt :-)

And does it alter the game any? nope.
abdallah
28/03/08 @ 00:06
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"smelly: why do you always cite 360 owners as some kind of devil worshiping hate mongers?"

I dont. That'd include myself in that category then wouldnt it?

But.. Oh.. I dunno.. perhaps read the posts in this thread.. and notice all the negative "trolling ones" are from the same people as you see in the 360 threads... It's not 360 owners i have a problem with.. it's 360 trolls.

Look for posts in this thread by: mandeep100, TraffordAvenger, XdarXideX, miiiguel

And they're the ones i DONT have on ignore (there's another 15 posts i cant see without logging out)

The ps3 owners seem to keep themselves to themselves though. :-)


"Oh noes, 9! The fanboys are coming for you Tom. Run!"

Notice not a single wii owner has mentioned the score though.."
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Badabingbadabang.
rommy667
28/03/08 @ 00:08
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Beware ppl some wiis like mine REFUSE TO LOAD DVD9 yes im saying if you buy this on rls day IT MIGHT NOT WORK if so you are ment to send off ya wii to nin to fix which sucks..... it is however a GREAT game :)
smelly
28/03/08 @ 00:37
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@abdallah:

I dont get where you're coming from - so i'll put you on ignore until you make sense.
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28/03/08 @ 05:57
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Tom: I enjoyed reading that.
captainrentboy
28/03/08 @ 08:42
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My girlfriend's mate came into our apartment the other day, pissed, and I was sat there playing Sega Superstars Tennis, then out of the blue after watching it for a few minutes she said '' Ohh my God, look how childish this game is, aren't you a bit too old for stuff like that?''
To which I promptly replied ''Fuck off!''
She said nothing else.
Kryon
28/03/08 @ 09:49
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Lol, smelly must ignore at least 15 people per Wii article (usually for calling him a cock, which he is). The poor fool can probably only see a few posts, probably only his and Les'...

/Smellys mentatility

- Does person X love the Wii? This must include sexual contact!

- Does person X worship Nintendo? No, I mean actually pray to them in the same way I do?

If the answer to either question is no, I must ignore person X.
gingerlink
28/03/08 @ 09:51
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anyone noticing a pattern that the mario kart review read like a 9, but got an eight and this one read like a 10, but got a 9

maybe there's a compulsory mark taken off for the graphics not being able to be as good that they just don't mention
, or something lame like that
XdarXideX
28/03/08 @ 11:22
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Well I'm sorry that the SSBB fans' opinions are BETTER than mine but I just don't see why this game or any of the previous efforts deserve such high scores (or most Nintendo 1st party efforts for that matter) from Eurogamer. They're not THAT good... be honest.
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knocker
28/03/08 @ 11:43
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"They're not THAT good... be honest."

Well maybe, just maybe the enjoyment of games is subjective ? And different people like different things ? If you enjoy daft, chaotic, cartoony, fighty fun this is about as good as it gets.

Clearly your "opinions are BETTER than mine"
BM
28/03/08 @ 12:11
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@rdexter

The thing is with Mario games, by and large the standard of them is extremely high. I honestly can't think of one Mario game I've personally played and gone "Meh, that's shit"

Mario is an icon around the world that you could argue is guaranteed to sell games, whether they're good or bad. Kudos to nintendo for keeping them at such a high standard.
Futaba
28/03/08 @ 12:29
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@BM I thought Mario Sunshine was awful, I guess you liked it then? Galaxy was brilliant though.
robertster
28/03/08 @ 12:54
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But Sunshine isn't "awful" it just isn't as good as a Mario platformer should be.
Landmaster
28/03/08 @ 14:22
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@ smelly

I care, that's why i voiced my opinion.
smelly
28/03/08 @ 15:16
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"anyone noticing a pattern that the mario kart review read like a 9, but got an eight and this one read like a 10, but got a 9"

No game deserves a 10 imho.. not this .. and certainly not halo 3 .. (Which deserved more like a 7)
smelly
28/03/08 @ 15:17
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>But Sunshine isn't "awful" it just isn't as good as a Mario platformer should b

Sunshine is my favorite mario platformer (with galaxy a close second)

The difficulty is what kept me playing right until 120 shines.. Galaxy was too easy imho




JackyB
28/03/08 @ 15:46
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smelly, I thought the shines were a "rip off" in that one. If I remember rightly, finding the blue coins was a piss take, and not much fun
BM
28/03/08 @ 16:57
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@Futaba

It definitely wasn't on a par with Mario 64, but if it wasn't Mario you'd still say it was a pretty good game. It's just that in effect it didn't live up to the hype. I still got alot of enjoyment out of it though, in fact I started playing it again a month or two back when I found the disc. My girlfriends 6 year old daughter loves it ;)
evild_edd
28/03/08 @ 19:12
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Super Smash Bros. franchise = MEH

I understand the lure of fan-service; but to eek an entire franchise out of it is just plain dull.

Nintendo, please stop making these games and release some original IP (that's not f*ckin' Brain Training)
Muddtallica
28/03/08 @ 20:51
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evild_edd: Haven't you been paying any attention at all? Read any review of this game, such as the one that this comments page is attached to. There's a fighting game underneath the fan nods, and a hugely acclaimed and popular one, at that. To say that you don't like it is fine; to pretend that it doesn't exist is just contrary and stupid.
smelly
29/03/08 @ 08:43
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"Super Smash Bros. franchise = MEH

I understand the lure of fan-service; but to eek an entire franchise out of it is just plain dull.

Nintendo, please stop making these games and release some original IP"



You see... replace smash bros with "halo 3" and "nintendo" with "microsoft" and i'd say the exact ssame thing
blicko
29/03/08 @ 10:16
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9? Nintendo really should do more advertising on this site.
BartonFink
29/03/08 @ 10:17
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Smelly, now there is a surprise :D
abdallah
29/03/08 @ 11:31
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Smelly you crazy monkey, I was agreeing with you.
"Badabimbadabam!" is the same kind of sound as "ba-dam-kish!" i.e an audible highlight of a good point.
caligari
29/03/08 @ 13:11
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It's not worth complaining - just put 'tards like "I have 3 Xbox 360s but my mother died so you can't laugh at me" Miiiguel on ignore.

Look upon it as Eurogamer 'culling'. Everything begins to smell a lot nicer without them.
smelly
29/03/08 @ 17:40
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>Nintendo really should do more advertising on this site.

genuine LOL!
bdc
30/03/08 @ 16:36
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Ahahah, it's not 10/10. Cry more nintendo freaks.
Landmaster
31/03/08 @ 01:40
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Nah you're alright "bdc", we "nintendo freaks" don't need one guy on Eurogamer to tell us the game's worth a ten so we can wet our pants over how good it is.

I just get your mum to scream to me how good it is when i'm finishing off on her obsurdly unattractive face :D

Cheers!
smelly
31/03/08 @ 01:50
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LOL
addyb
07/04/08 @ 11:31
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LOL@ Landmasters comment!!

I dont buy into all this fanboy bollox that always rears its head. I just like videogames regardless of platform. Wii,360, PS3, PC, PSP, DS all have quality games so i like to just pick and choose what i like. Just reminds me when i was a kid and there was the Speccy vs C64 debates, then NES vs Master System, Snes vs Megadrive etc.. YAWN!!

I liked melee so will no doubt pick this one up as well!
chanderzz
19/06/08 @ 18:26
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i got this on import about 2 months ago, this is no Melee. While i appreciate they wanna make the single player deeper they totally missed on this. Its just 10 hours of dull, what looks like proceduraly generated levels. The only reason you force yourself on is the character unlocks.

Multiplayer on the other hand is amazing, get a group of people round (or online) and this becomes an energetic, adrenaline fest. The new smash finishers introduces a source of unpredictability that throws even veterans off. The clamber to get the smash throws all skill out the window in a scramble.
gaselite
26/06/08 @ 09:03
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I stopped reading mid review to comment on this:

"Nintendonanism"

sublime.
IronCladChicken
26/06/08 @ 09:13
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@addyb
> Speccy vs C64 debates, then NES vs Master System, Snes vs Megadrive

Dude, what country are you from? In the UK it was Speccy Vs. C64, Amiga Vs ST, SNES Vs. Megadrive, etc..
NES Vs. Master system? Are you American?
LazyDan
26/06/08 @ 11:13
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^Pretty sure it's because you're looking at it the wrong way - try to think of the inclusion of Nintendo characters as an added bonus (or negative, depending on your views.)

I'm almost completely sure I would love this game even if it were all original characters. It's a fun fighting game - one that trades highly technical controls for highly accessible controls. That's not to say it's not technical at all, or that it's not a deep fighter for those who want to play it that way.

And of course I loooovvveee that the cast is made up of all Nintendo's key and not-so-key characters.
robson_wii
26/06/08 @ 11:37
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My brother is not a gamer but he loved melee (so did I). Something about Princess Peach smashing Mario over the head with a mallet appealed to him. Can't argue with that.
Mudo
26/06/08 @ 11:54
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Why's this back on the frontpage?
Koozer
26/06/08 @ 12:02
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Because it's out tomorrow and EG probably want a few more views squeezed out of it :)
Oh, and Kirby FTW, even if he is useless.
Oh yeah, and this is a solid fighter first and foremost, the Nintendo characters are just a very nice bonus!

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