Super Mario Galaxy

By Oli Welsh Published 17 August, 2007

Ain't no Sunshine where he's gone.

"In one sense, this is the first worthy successor to Mario 64," bellowed a typically belligerent Reggie Fils-Aime at E3. We all knew what he meant. "We know you thought Mario Sunshine was a bit crap. We hope this one sells better," he might as well have said. Fine: we hope he's right. But in one sense, Reggie's remark does Super Mario Galaxy a disservice.

Many people have taken it to mean that Galaxy is a footstep-following sequel to the N64 classic. It's not. After a lengthy hands-on with the E3 demo (plus a couple of extra levels), it becomes clear that Super Mario Galaxy is its own game: a blend of some of the best bits from both 3D and 2D Mario tradition, with a number of very distinctive twists. It's far more New than New Super Mario Bros ever was.

It's no coincidence that Galaxy is the first major Mario title ever to be made outside of Nintendo's Kyoto HQ. It's being developed by the team in Tokyo that made the brilliant, bongo-controlled Donkey Kong's Jungle Beat. Letting go was a brave move on Miyamoto's part, but it looks like it's paying off, because the six stages of Galaxy we played were pure bliss.

It's drop-dead gorgeous, for starters. This is not just the best-looking Wii title by miles, it's one of the best-looking games in the world full stop, HD or no HD. It's as smooth and shiny as silk, the colours are unbelievably vibrant, it's smothered in lustrous effects, and you feel like you can reach out and touch its chunky, cute and tactile designs. Super Mario Galaxy makes most hi-def games look about as solid and convincing as photographs pasted onto empty cereal packets. The sound is superb too: a riot of bright tinkles, radiophonic zings and zaps, and electro-funk remixes of vintage Mario tunes.

'Super Mario Galaxy' Screenshot 1

One level had bee Mario crawling through the giant queen bee's fur while she squealed with pleasure. It was a bit disturbing, frankly.

The controls are based very closely on Mario 64's. The double and triple jumps, long jump, wall kick, backflip, ground pound and side somersault are all present and correct, and executed with the same combinations of stick moves, A and Z. They're as fluid and versatile as ever, and a little easier to use - in particular, you can pull back on long jumps in mid-air if it looks like you're going to overshoot. The dive is gone, but in its place is a hugely useful Super Mario World-style spin attack, pulled off by shaking the remote. This upends and stuns enemies, who can then marvelously be booted into space, Mario Bros style.

Bizarrely, you can also stun enemies by shooting them with the remote. Coloured blobs are collected by Mario, or just by passing the remote cursor over them, and then aimed and shot, or saved for a 1up. We didn't find a use for this beyond giving Goombas concussion, and it feels rather tacked-on, although it is a novel and way to interact with Mario's world. A second player with a second remote can help with all this, as well as with certain obstacles (for example, holding a rolling boulder out of the way). The remote cursor is also used to lock onto sequences of 'beam stars', which haul Mario across gaps in space with a kind of elasticated tractor-beam.

Which brings us to the bit we've been putting off writing: how Mario Galaxy's levels actually work, and fit together. This is as difficult to explain as it is intoxicating, head-spinning and funny.

Most of the levels in the demo were A-to-B platforming challenges, somewhat similar to Mario 64's boss stages, or the bonus stages of Sunshine. But they've been broken into pieces, twisted up and tied in knots, turned inside out, back to front and upside down, and then shot into space. There are miniature versions of Mario 64's open levels, wrapped around tiny asteroids like a skin, and dropped in the middle of cosmos-spanning platforming sequences.

Everything has its own gravity, and you never know which way is up, but somehow - we're really not sure how - you always know when you'll stick, and when you'll fall off into space. The camera is mostly automatic (sometimes allowing basic d-pad control), and flawless. In true Mario style, it's all impossible and surreal, but it also makes a weird, instinctive kind of sense. You're only confused when the game wants you to be, which is often: when pipes pop Mario round the other side of a micro-world in a flash, or when you're misled by his reflection, apparently running around the inside of a glass sphere. You'll find yourself involuntarily laughing out loud at the mischievous tricks Mario Galaxy constantly plays with your perceptions.

'Super Mario Galaxy' Screenshot 2

You can keep busy while soaring through space by picking up blobs with the cursor and trying to engineer a soft landing

Star rings, activated by shaking the remote, shoot Mario across vast tracts of space; they're the game's exhilarating and spectacular signature moment, but they don't actually offer any freedom of exploration, they just take you where you're going next. You start out exploring the game carefully like the earlier 3D Marios, but eventually (especially playing a level for the second time) you realise it's more linear than that, and get caught up in its unstoppable forward momentum, running and jumping faster and faster, high on the rush, chaining it like a drug. This is when it reminds you most of 2D Mario gaming.

What's not yet clear is how all this fits together structurally. There will be 40 levels, 120 stars to collect and six themed areas; we did one star in each of six galaxies. The first two (Gateway and Egg Planet), featured strings of tiny wrap-around planetoids in quick succession. The third, Honeybee, was more like a Mario 64 level, only broken in half, and featuring the hover-enabling bee suit (which in all honesty is not that exciting a power-up, but it's so adorable you don't care). Star Dust Galaxy was a brain-melting assemblage of beam stars, glass planets and platforms that zap into place out of nowhere. It starred the hapless Astrotoads, and was our favourite level in the demo.

'Super Mario Galaxy' Screenshot 3

As Mario Galaxy goes, this is a relatively sane and sensible scene. Really, it is

Of the two new levels, Beach Bowl had Mario dodging huge cubic Whomps that worked their way around the outside of shattered cylinders, and felt an old Mario Bros castle leaping out of the pages of a pop-up book. Cookie Factory required you to time jumps across fast-moving platforms with geometric cutouts, and it was fiendishly hard in a very old-fashioned way. It was the exception: for the most part, Mario Galaxy seems effortless and easy, centered much more on the sheer sensory pleasure of play than on setting taxing tests of skill.

When Shigeru Miyamoto suggested this week that games should be fun, it was easy to snigger and accuse him of stating the obvious. But Super Mario Galaxy proves his point to perfection: it's amazingly, dizzyingly, idiotically fun, in a way few games are these days. We're not going to call it a classic Mario yet - we simply haven't seen enough of the game to make that call, and it will certainly be difficult to keep it both accessible and rewarding all the way through. But we are going to predict that it will plaster millions of big smiles on millions of faces come November, and that, if nothing else, makes it a worthy successor and a half.

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About Oli Welsh

Oli is Eurogamer's acting deputy editor and reviews editor and likes to take things one word at a time. He is among the best dressed people in South London.

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  • Hunam #1 5 years ago

    Cheese on toast is great.
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 11:52

  • Fernando #2 5 years ago

    dont you mean preview? ;)
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 11:43

  • JediMasterMalik #3 5 years ago

    Preview surely, what with no score. (Yes, I checked that first)

  • RedboX #4 5 years ago

    Review?

  • SIDEARM #5 5 years ago

    Moist

  • BiscuitBase #6 5 years ago

    Review?

  • kincaide #7 5 years ago

    R E V I E W????????

  • RedboX #8 5 years ago

    GARLIC? BREAD?

  • macksed #9 5 years ago

    what a waste of comments!?!?

  • macksed #10 5 years ago

    reeeeeeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeew??

  • Uncle_Fishboy #11 5 years ago

    Do fish have nipples?

  • mowgli #12 5 years ago

    Eyes actually popped

  • Domstercool #13 5 years ago

    I was in a panic then, thought it was coming out early or something and I'd not noticed!

  • mkreku #14 5 years ago

    Calm down, it's obviously a misnamed preview. A quite gushing one at that.

  • Danbojones Verified Senior Staff Writer, GamesIndustry.biz #15 5 years ago

    Calm down dear, it's only a preview.

    Damn your swift little fingers.
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 11:49

  • Uncle_Fishboy #16 5 years ago

    Who gives a toss. It's only a silly game featuring an italian bell end

  • JetSetWilly #17 5 years ago

    Someone must pay.

  • espy #18 5 years ago

    Super Mario Portal then?

  • afghan_jones #19 5 years ago

    Sounds (and looks) pretty good doesnt it.

    How is it controlled? Is it old school with the added pointer shooting thing or is it more wii-ified than that?

  • richardiox #20 5 years ago

    Control Mario with the analogue stick, interact with the environment using the remote pointer. Looks incredible, can't wait.

  • Killerbee #21 5 years ago

    Sounds brilliant. Another game I really can't wait to play.

    I, for one, really enjoyed Super Mario Sunshine. Well, enough to complete every level, though I admit I didn't hunt down every single blue coin or redo the Fludd-less levels to get the second stars.

  • ChrisOTR #22 5 years ago

    but eventually [...] you realise it's more linear than that

    Uh-oh. Don't much like the sound of that. One of the things I loved about SM64 was that you could divert from the star you were working towards for another one if it looked tempting...
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 12:02

  • Nikanoru #23 5 years ago

    and a little easier to use - in particular, you can pull back on long jumps in mid-air if it looks like you're going to overshoot.


    You could do the same in Mario64. ;)

  • muftak #24 5 years ago

    blah blah blah nothing new same old fat plumber same old stuff

  • Der_tolle_Emil #25 5 years ago

    Sounds incredibly fun. Can't wait!

  • Eighthours #26 5 years ago

    "We know you thought Mario Sunshine was a bit crap."

    Tom gave it a 9 back in the day. "It does more than just compete (with the past titles)," he assured us...

    Wasn't the only one suckered in by the hype. I thoroughly enjoyed my first playthrough, but going back to it without the excitement revealed SMS to be a pale experience when compared to Mario 64.

  • Stupid_Fat_Hobbit #27 5 years ago

    Super Mario Sunshine was far from a bit crap, except when compared to all the other Mario games.

    Anyway, can't wait for this. Want!

  • Sebo #28 5 years ago

    Nervous about this one........

  • Nikanoru #29 5 years ago

    you realise it's more linear than that

    NOOoOOoooOooOOoOOOoooooOO! /weep



    blah blah blah nothing new same old fat plumber same old stuff

    I can't actually tell if you're joking here. I hope so, for your mum's sake.

  • ProfessorLesser #30 5 years ago

    "Ain't no Sunshine where he's gone."

    Excellent :D

  • Les #31 5 years ago

    ""Ain't no Sunshine where he's gone."

    Excellent :D"

    Agreed. One of the first times a sub heading actually made me laugh... ;)

  • NewYork #32 5 years ago

    Mmm... "radiophonic zings".

  • Daikon #33 5 years ago

    We know you thought Mario Sunshine was a bit crap.

    Kudos for acknowledging this. Not many in the industry are so honest (hello, Sony).

  • Tonka #34 5 years ago

    Want want want want want want

  • The12thMonkey #35 5 years ago

    "Who gives a toss. It's only a silly game featuring an italian bell end"

    Hi, Sonic.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #36 5 years ago

    MMMM, looks like this is going to be mega awesome, clearly the best bits by a mile in Sunshine were the secret levels, and this just looks like loads of them stuck together.

    That's true. I enjoyed the absurd level design of the bonus missions without FLUDD. Mario and 'realistic' environments don't mix imho. FLUDD wasn't too much of a problem actually but the level design was dull compared to the surrealistic level designs usually found in Mario games.

  • figaro7 #37 5 years ago

    This is up there with bioshock for me and is my most anticipated game of this generation thus far! Theres nothing like a good old mario platformer, hmm platformer... what are those again?

  • GingerNathan #38 5 years ago

    I preferred the non-Fludd bits to. It was still an excellent game through, just let down by repeating game play (how many times did I fight that giant Blooper?) and artificial game extension by forcing the player to collect needless amounts of blue coins in order to get all Shine Sprites.

    Galaxy is looking rather special though.

  • Santino #39 5 years ago

    This game....nah can't find the words i won't even bother trying.

  • Chufty #40 5 years ago

    Never having played Mario 64, this preview told me absolutely nothing.

    C'mon Oliver, some of us had PlayStations instead...

  • Machiavellian #41 5 years ago

    Personally, I just cannot generate anymore excitement for Mario anymore. I am hoping SMG will bring me back but right now Mario is low on my list. To bad Nintendo doesn't do demos. Anyway Mario sells way to good for Nintendo to do a demo for it anyway.

  • Tonka #42 5 years ago

    Want want want want want want

  • SniperWolf #43 5 years ago

    Mario's cool, but he's no Bioshock, that's the only game that matters from now on. Unless a game is as good as Bioshock it should automatically be docked 2 points in the review.

    Developers need to know that they can't get away with mediocre games anymore, it's Bioshock or bust from now on

  • Guv #44 5 years ago

    Aww man... gonna have to get one of those white little things :(

    My wallet can't take all this stress!

  • Eighthours #45 5 years ago

    Never having played Mario 64, this preview told me absolutely nothing.

    C'mon Oliver, some of us had PlayStations instead...

    Frankly, the percentage of EG'ers who haven't played Mario 64 is probably around the same who don't know how to turn a PC monitor on. You're genuinely the first videogamer I've ever encountered who hasn't.

  • Dr.Mott #46 5 years ago

    I haven't.

  • mcmothercruncher #47 5 years ago

    Anyone got a tissue?

  • Tomnd #48 5 years ago

    so is this directed by miyamoto? what is he actually doing at the moment appart from wii fit, it seems like years since a miyamoto game came out.

  • rhinoxious #49 5 years ago

    I love the idea of a second controller being used, will help keep the missus entertained while she coos at the pretty visuals.

  • manic_mouse #50 5 years ago

    Miyamoto is a figure head, you'll find he has very little to do with most Nintendo games these days (aside from his pet projects like Pikmin).

  • Tomnd #51 5 years ago

    what a fucking waste
    (not pikmin but figure head)
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 13:16

  • mcwildcard #52 5 years ago

    I predicted that the Wii would be exactly the same as the DS and not be worth buying for exactly a year.
    Do I get a prize for being ridiculously correct?

  • Santino #53 5 years ago

    actually there was an interview not so long ago with miyamoto and he is quite involved with galaxy. This and Wii Fit are where his focus is at the moment. i'll try and find the interview

  • smoothn00dle #54 5 years ago

    This game has the potential to change the world *v*

  • Tomnd #55 5 years ago

    [link url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List _of_Nintendo_games_created_by_Shigeru_Miyamoto
    ]http://en .wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nin...[/link]

    although i don't think this list is exactly correct as i seem to remember him directing yoshi's island for the snes...

  • Santino #56 5 years ago

    From IGN interview: [link url=http:// wii.ign.com/articles/804/804397p1.html
    ]http://wi i.ign.com/articles/804/804397p1...[/link]

    Q: What is your personal role in the development of Galaxy, and how much of the game is your vision?

    A: As far as my involvement, with Mario 64 I was the main director. In this case, I'm more directly involved with game design. In one sense, I'm even more involved than I was with Super Mario 64.

  • varsas #57 5 years ago

    This is probably my most wanted Wii game right now! The game sounds like it will be a lot of fun and fresh!
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 13:45

  • Nova5lag #58 5 years ago

    Woop!

  • asphaltcowboy #59 5 years ago

    Oh god I'm so excited by this game!

  • grandmaster Verified Director, Digital Foundry #60 5 years ago

    I really want this to be good. I've not played a truly superb Mazzer game since Mario 64, and even then I still found SNES Super Mario World to be the better game.

  • afghan_jones #61 5 years ago

    I havent.

  • Zelos #62 5 years ago

    I guess I'm alone in preferring Sunshine to 64. Admittedly, I did play Sunshine first and then 64 on the DS, but I liked the greater variation of gameplay in Sunshine.

  • PapaSmurf630 #63 5 years ago

    3 words:

    No Anti-Aliasing :(

  • Tonka #64 5 years ago

    Six words
    Want want want want want want

  • Tonka #65 5 years ago

    Use your fucking imagination

  • Kami #66 5 years ago

    Zelos, the thing is Mario 64 DS was an abuse of a great game - the N64 version had variation, but also consistancy without any of the tacked-on features. As one of the first games to truly utilise analog control as well, it was remarkably sharp and responsive. Just forget the DS version, aside from the mini-games it was an afront to what is a great game.

    I also don't get the bitchyness of people here either. It's a new Mario, and whilst admittedly Mario is whored out to cover almost every other genre under the gaming sun - we get usually one Mario platformer a generation, two if we're lucky, and only a couple have disappointed in being enjoyable games. For me, a proper Mario platformer is an event, a proper honest-to-god event to wait for and see if they pull it off. The fact that after all this time a Mario platformer can still generate buzz is quite a neat little accomplishment. Clearly no-one paged Miyamoto or anyone in Nintendo about the seemingly-near demise of the platforming genre, and that's a very good thing.

    Also am fed up with the HDW's (High-Def Whores) bitching about things like anti-alaising, that it's not going to look good at high-res etc. Here's a response - WHO CARES?! The gameplay trailers look good, look sharp and quite honestly, if it's half as entertaining and crazy as it looks, I couldn't give a toss about minor graphical shortcomings or a couple of jagged edges. If you spend every waking moment of your life fretting over a few jaggies in games appearing on your 360 or PS3, may I suggest getting a life? I'd say millions of people who will get this game most likely won't care either, they'll just get lost in the game, and that's a good thing.

    I am so getting this game. It looks just insane enough that it might possibly work, and any game that can make Mario look even more gay by shoving him into a bee costume and make me laugh hysterically can only be a good thing!
    Edited by 2 at 17/08/07 @ 15:11

  • Daymare #67 5 years ago

    I haven't played M64, but finished Sunshine today (with around 60 Shines:I) and enjoyed it very much (cursed alot too, damn difficulty spikes). Game I bothered to finish in a long while, actually! I can't imagine how can anyone mark it as crap, relative or not relative to Mario 64. I understand that it's not the breakthrough game M64 is regarded as, but for Sunshine to be crap, Mario 64 would have to be beyOnd perfect..

  • Tonka #68 5 years ago

    "Fuck you, fuckweasel. My point is obvious - why on earth would I as a gamer want to spend most of my time in a game being confused? It's either poor writing, or annoying design. "


    Maybe they hide stuff so you have to work it out. Where is the key? Ooohh how do I get there? Jesus I could walk up that wall! I didn't find any mention of it being annoying in the preview (or in any other preview) so I'm fairly certain it will play an imprtant role in the game play with out degradeing the experience.

    Does that sound far fetched? Is it plausible?

  • pyrat6 #69 5 years ago

    @Owen_B

    Did you get too bored to read the next sentence ?

    "You'll find yourself involuntarily laughing out loud at the mischievous tricks Mario Galaxy constantly plays with your perceptions."

    edit: Same goes for you tonka ;)
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 15:14

  • Kami #70 5 years ago

    @ Owen-B;

    "why on earth would I as a gamer want to spend most of my time in a game being confused? It's either poor writing, or annoying design."

    Why would I as a gamer want to be led by the hand every five minutes being patronised by designers who think I have the mental age of a two-year old?

    Confusing isn't always a bad thing. You can argue any game that gives you more than one path to explore is confusing. Games that offer abrupt puzzles or hectic action can aruably be seen as confusing. At what point do you draw the line? If something is too confusing, then admittedly it is FRUSTRATING. If it's just confusing enough, or as Mario often is, just plain freaky wacky and mental - how can that be a bad thing?

    FF games are often confusing. Heck, I'd wager 90% of games have elements that can be confusing. If designers get it wrong, it makes the game frustrating and annoying. If they get the balance right, it has potential to give the game replay value, depth and sometimes comedic value.

    In closing, confusing isn't always a bad thing. Frustrating, however, can be the death of a good game.

  • gingerlink #71 5 years ago

    is it me or is this first impressions no.3?

    Well I'm not complaining, you guys certainly seem to enjoy the game :D

  • MDL199 #72 5 years ago

    Eighthours
    17-Aug-07 13:02:47 Never having played Mario 64, this preview told me absolutely nothing.

    C'mon Oliver, some of us had PlayStations instead...

    Frankly, the percentage of EG'ers who haven't played Mario 64 is probably around the same who don't know how to turn a PC monitor on. You're genuinely the first videogamer I've ever encountered who hasn't.

    ------------------------------------------------------------ -----------------------------------

    You have to remember only a small minority of gamers actually bought an N64 and here in the UK Mario games are not big sellers anyway.

    SMS charted straight in at number 1 in the all formats chart but the very next week it was out of the top ten never to return.

    In terms of sales to hype ratio it's one of the worst performers out there with Zelda not far behind and i'm talking about in the UK here.

  • Sebo #73 5 years ago

    @MDL

    Except Super Mario Bros is still the biggest selling game of all time.

    Mario 64 sold more than any other game of its generation, even in the UK.

    Fair point, you can't expect everyone to have played it, but those who have are the majority rather than the minority, particularly when it comes to a website like this.
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 16:11

  • skybluesam86 #74 5 years ago

    Uh-oh. Don't much like the sound of that. One of the things I loved about SM64 was that you could divert from the star you were working towards for another one if it looked tempting...

    Agreed.
    I'll be a little disappointed if it's completely linear.

    This is still my most anticipated game by some distance.
    This, Phantom Hourglass, and SSB:Brawl top my wishlist right now.

  • MDL199 #75 5 years ago

    Sebo
    17-Aug-07 16:08:25 @MDL

    Except Super Mario Bros is still the biggest selling game of all time.

    Mario 64 sold more than any other game of its generation, even in the UK.


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    I don't have the figures to argue with you but I find it very hard to believe that any N64 title was the biggest seller of it's generation here in the UK.

    For better or for worse I almost always seem to remember Fifa or some movie licensed game always ending up the years biggest seller ever since the mid 90's.

    Would have thought aside from Fifa maybe one of the final fantasy, Gran Tourismo or Metal Gear Solid games would have sold alot more here in the UK.

  • Sebo #76 5 years ago

    @MDL

    Just because fifa lingered about the charts for ages doesn't mean it ultimately sold more.

    Games like Mario 64 tend to have huge first weeks, which subsequently take them out the charts.

    I can't get my hands on the exact figures for UK, but it seems that in Pal/americas, it sold 11 million, more than any playstation, n64 or saturn game and equal to GTA3 on PS2.

  • The-Bodybuilder #77 5 years ago

    >"Kudos for acknowledging this. Not many in the industry are so honest (hello, Sony). "

    Kudos? Kudos for being suckered into the hype?

  • Moz #78 5 years ago

    " it's one of the best-looking games in the world full stop, HD or no HD. "

    Oh please they can't seriousely be suggesting that on a 37" HD TV that Mario will look better then Bioshock!!!!

    It will look just as pixely as any other Wii, maybe the Sonic and the secret rings end of things, but still not HD standards

  • PapaSmurf630 #79 5 years ago

    Exactly Moz, probably the most bullsh*t statement I've ever read on EG.

    And as for the anti-HD argument, it does make a difference. I simply cannot play games anymore after enjoying High Def games without noticing these problems (however I'm not as bad as a screentearing whiner!)

  • NormH #80 5 years ago

    Is there a confirmed UK release date for this?

  • Santino #81 5 years ago

    Good thing that there is more to being one of the best looking games on any system than sheer technical grunt isnt it? Just look at it, it really looks fantastic. Glad it is 60fps too.

  • OrangeGoblin #82 5 years ago

    When the hell can I get my grubby mitts on this then?

  • Nikanoru #83 5 years ago

    Santino: right you are, these people are blind. They must get off to numbers.

  • DrDamn #84 5 years ago

    @Sebo
    "Mario 64 sold more than any other game of its generation, even in the UK."

    I had doubts about that one but it's a close run thing and depends on which generation you plonk it in ...

    Linky

    There are three of PS2 games which outsold it and the stats there imply it was probably outsold by Gran Turismo one and two on the PS in the UK.

    You do need to have had one of the least popular consoles of it's generation to have played it properly though - and that in itself would stop it from being a game the majority of people have played through to a reasonable extent. The majority of people have not owned a N64.

  • smelly #85 5 years ago

    I think im one of the few people in the world who thought sunshine was fucking great.

  • smelly #86 5 years ago

    "This is not just the best-looking Wii title by miles, it's one of the best-looking games in the world full stop, HD or no HD"


    Im suprised none of the 360 fangirls have picked up on this statement and started crying about it...

    Come on afghan.. yer obviously not trying hard enough...

  • Sebo #87 5 years ago

    @Dr Damn

    That's the same list I saw and based my comments on and unfortunately it leaves us open to speculation on actual UK figures, but gives a good indication of how things went. Not to mention Mario 64 is available on wii.

    "You do need to have had one of the least popular consoles of it's generation to have played it properly though"

    Least popular??? There was only the PS, Saturn and N64!!!

  • smelly #88 5 years ago

    Least Popular?

    Erm.. you guys are aware that the 64 outsold the xbox and the cube arent you?

    35 million (ish) units if i remember correctly. Compared to the xbox's 20 million. So if you're trying to use the argument that "not many people owned a 64 so how would anyone know how mario 64 played".. then surely by the same logic then, even fewer xbox's were sold, so no-one has played halo?

  • patchbox360 #89 5 years ago

    'This is not just the best-looking Wii title by miles, it's one of the best-looking games in the world full stop, HD or no HD'

    bollocks

  • MDL199 #90 5 years ago

    @ DrDamn - Great link there and some very interesting reading. Looks like the 2 Gran Tourismo games on the original Playstation pipped Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot ain't that far behind in the non Japan and America market also.

    Those figures really do seem to show how important the American market is infact it seems impossible to win the console war without winning in the States.

  • Sebo #91 5 years ago

    Woah woah woah

    Since when did others mean UK??? others is the whole of europe, and australia, south america and some of asia too I'm guessing. I know you have kinda acknowledged that in your post, but the tone to me does suggest you think gran turismo came out top in the uk.

    Anyway, that's beside the point. Whether I was right or wrong about Mario 64 being the number one seller I think we've clearly established that Mario 64 was one of the top selling games of its generation worldwide, no matter how you break it down.

    So the vast majority have played this title.
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 19:01

  • Santino #92 5 years ago

    Anyone who hasn't played Mario64 is a cunt ;)






















    Just kidding...

  • MDL199 #93 5 years ago

    Sebo
    17-Aug-07 18:57:39 Woah woah woah

    Since when did others mean UK??? others is the whole of europe, and australia, south america and some of asia too I'm guessing.

    Anyway I think we've clearly established that Mario 64 was the top selling game of its generation worldwide, and among the most successful in the uk.

    So the majority have played this title, which is the point being made,

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    I thought it was commonly excepted that Nintendo does alot better in other European countries than here in the UK but then they've always treated us like crap so it's to be expected.

    But fair enough yes it would appear that Mario 64 probably did well here but it's not top dog.

    Looking through those stats it's really interesting to observe the difference in gaming tastes between the west and Japan.

    I am quite astounded that 130,000 Japs actually bought MOH Rising Sun lol. Wonder how many kraughts bought the other MOH games.

  • pyrat6 #94 5 years ago

    People who think aesthetics has anything to do with resolution need to get out more. Or possibly less.

    Check out films, art, music. Improvements in technology have benefited all these areas - but without artistic inspiration it's just a load of wank.

  • afghan_jones #95 5 years ago

    @smelly

    thanks for the plug.

    I cant fathom why exactly you would feel the need to try to bait me when Im on your ignore list anyway?

    And FYI, whilst claiming this is the best looking game ever seems a bold statement to make, Ive not actually played it so wouldnt really comment. Equally, neither have the Ninty fanboys so couldthey stop ragging those who doubt this claim please.

    From the screenshots, it does look very nice indeed but the jagged edges do jump out, as does some of the lack of detail (not that that would necessarily be expected given Mario's style.) I guess it looks a lot better in motion though.

  • smelly #96 5 years ago

    Can i just point out mario 64 outsold both halo and halo 2?

    That is all.

  • orakio #97 5 years ago

    @ afghan

    I think you have to play it before judging indeed. The previewers statements and the faith I have in Eurogamer's opinion does however make me think it'll be fab to look at.
    My personal example is World of warcraft of which I know a lot of people think it looks crappish. For me the smoothness and atmosphere of that particular MMO make me think it's still the best out there, graphic-wise.

  • afghan_jones #98 5 years ago

    "That is all."

    If only it was, smelly, if only it was...

  • smelly #99 5 years ago

    ... and still no bite from afghan...

    come on.. letting the side down here..

  • MDL199 #100 5 years ago

    smelly
    17-Aug-07 19:45:49 Can i just point out mario 64 outsold both halo and halo 2?

    That is all

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    So that obviously proves it's better right?!

  • smelly #101 5 years ago

    @MDL199

    >So that obviously proves it's better right?!

    Nope.. but people were saying that few people on here have played it because the n64 was a flop. such as yourself!! I quote:

    "You have to remember only a small minority of gamers actually bought an N64 and here in the UK Mario games are not big sellers anyway. "

    By that mentality, therefor logic follows that no-one here has played halo. And no-one here owned a xbox either (which was outsold by the n64)



    And yes.. it is a better game if that's what yer asking.
    Edited by 1 at 17/08/07 @ 21:17

  • Sebo #102 5 years ago

    @MDL

    "But fair enough yes it would appear that Mario 64 probably did well here but it's not top dog."

    Neither you or I know for sure whether it is or isnt top dog so how the hell can you come away with that remark??

    What the stats do show is it was the biggest selling game of its generation worldwide. And is the 19th biggest selling game of all time.

    What I found most interesting about that list is how many how of them are nintendo games, I really didn't realise the company was THAT dominant

  • smelly #103 5 years ago

    >I really didn't realise the company was THAT dominant

    In the days of the nes, nintendo ruled the world (literally). At that time It created the best selling game of all time (mario)

  • Sebo #104 5 years ago

    Yeah I knew that, but I thought a lot of these old classics would have been knocked off their perch by Playstation 2 titles.

    It's interesting that's there's only three xbox titles in there.

    Very interesting list, and one which ultimately illustrates that mario is far and away the most popular character in the history of video gaming

  • smelly #105 5 years ago

    >It's interesting that's there's only three xbox titles in there.

    Not really.. The xbox struggled to sell more than the cube worldwide (not much more than 22 million units). In terms of console sales - that's not much.

    More worrying is comparing the 360 sales to the xbox sales (from launch day)...

  • BartonFink #106 5 years ago

    Cannot fucking wait ...
    Sunshine was a huge disappointment

  • zoglog #107 5 years ago

    way to bait and switch people to drive up traffic Eurogamer.... real classy.

  • Brianstorm #108 5 years ago

    Good to see jones and smelly at it, credit to nintendo for outsourcing this game which is so important for wii in terms of the type of people who visit this site, they took a brave step because they knew mazza needed refreshing. It is so sad to see people on this thread doubting miyamoto. The older guys amoung us who visit this site grew up with his games and still look forward to them more than any other game (and yes bioshock good as it is, is aimed at a different market with significantly less commercial value). The Wii got me back into gaming after losing faith in the cube, which has led to Half Life episode 1 on my PC, but also some fantastic games on the Wii, I actually own more games on Wii than I have on any console so quickly into it's life span and the first machine I played on was a Spectrum Z80. Horses for courses but Nintendo have put hardware innovation behind their undoubted software supremacy... can't wait for the next few months in gaming!

  • Santino #109 5 years ago

    "Horses for courses but Nintendo have put hardware innovation behind their undoubted software supremacy... can't wait for the next few months in gaming!"

    to me it feels like the Wii (and the DS of course) has just given Nintendo their edge back, its no secret that a lot of people feel that their franchise cube offerings were inferior to their n64 counterparts, almost as if they were just going through the motions. But now seeing mario galaxy seemingly absolutely bursting with ideas and freshness makes me feel like the first time i saw mario64 on gamesmaster when i was younger. i cant wait to see what sorts of ideas they come up with over the rest of this generation.

  • Sid-Nice #110 5 years ago

    Am I the only one who isn't impressed with this game?

  • Brianstorm #111 5 years ago

    sid nice is up far too late, am I the only one not impressed with newcastle brown ale...

  • Brianstorm #112 5 years ago

    But on a serious note the difference between the cube and the current state of play with nintendo is Satoru Iwata, a software man, who demands hardware innovation to achieve what is happening all around us in terms of software... credit to these guys, they seem to be on a roll and all the developers in-house, acquired and 2nd party seem to be on a wave. What a great time to have a spare £179.99.....
    Edited by 1 at 18/08/07 @ 00:28

  • Sid-Nice #113 5 years ago

    Thankfully I no longer drink; over the years Newcastle Broon has left many an impression on my kegs, both sides if you know what I mean.

  • Brianstorm #114 5 years ago

    much the same as a little fat plumber i know, clearly drinking too much peroni... or has he spent too much time on the quay side....

    How he manages to get into outer space withour belly flopping into the north sea is beyond me.....

  • smelly #115 5 years ago

    >Sunshine was a huge disappointment


    See, i thought that too (but i was too quick to judge it against mario 64)

    Then i replayed it recently, and it's now one of my favorite games (even more so than mazza 64)

    I'd recommend picking it up and judging it on it's merrits as it's own game.. i personally think it's ace.

  • Sid-Nice #116 5 years ago

    I am sick of the Nintendo haters calling the Wii the mini game console; if the success of the Wii means that I'll be playing high definition versions of Mario, Metroid and Zelda in 4 years time then I'm a happy.

  • The-Bodybuilder #117 5 years ago

    >"I cant fathom why exactly you would feel the need to try to bait me when Im on your ignore list anyway? "

    Smelly seems to have a lot of people one his ignore list, yet still comments on thier post.

    He's a fanboy anyways. He just hides it better than others (except in a wii thread).

  • Brianstorm #118 5 years ago

    Fair play to smelly though he doesn't interfere in 360/PS3 threads... and to be honest it's abit sad we're talking EG regulars rather than what is looking like a true gem of a game....

  • smelly #119 5 years ago

    As I dont own a hi-def tv.. and am buggered if i'm going to pay for one (only to find that i then have to pay 3 times more for cable to recieve channels in hi-def to get the benefit of it.. only to find that lo-def tv looks crap on a hi-def lcd tv..)

    .. So having a console in hi-def means bugger all to me :-)

  • Brianstorm #120 5 years ago

    One last question before the bed beckons, I have seen DS advance wars 2 in the Ninty Euro release schedule, has anyone heard much about this....? this appeals to me almost as much as SMG....

  • Sid-Nice #121 5 years ago

    NeoGAF are now discussing Eurogamers First Impressions; the vast majority think that the posters on E/G are gay.

  • YourMessageHere #122 5 years ago

    'This is not just the best-looking Wii title by miles, it's one of the best-looking games in the world full stop, HD or no HD'

    ...and with that, I stopped taking this article's word for anything. You can splurge all you like about Mario being a brilliant platformer all you like, I hate platformers and I'm just reading out of curiosity so I'll take that as read, but there is no way you can possibly make that one stick. I've never heard anyone try and tell me Mario was good because of how it looked, and this just looks like wii-ified 3d Mario, I.E. technically better than ever, artistically still abysmal.

    The image of Mario out drinking Newkie Broon on the Quayside in Newcastle is absolute genius, and bears an uncanny resemblance to the reality of the place. Thank you Brianstorm.

  • Pike #123 5 years ago

    Seems a bit shit, as Mario games tend to do.

  • Daymare #124 5 years ago

    "artistically still abysmal"?

    In the context of a platformer, Mario games, artisticly, are top notch. Pure, simple, magical. You can recognize a Mario game "from a mile away" and in that sense it's a complete success. This is all, of course, a subjective matter, but to counter your views, I'm glad SMG looks like a return to "form". Less is more in this instance and pure platformer with a big dose of nostalgia is just what some of us need.

  • Der_tolle_Emil #125 5 years ago

    Discussions here would be so much easier if some people wouldn't take their opinion as the ultimate judgement which cannot be doubted. (no idea if that sentence makes sense).

    "artistically still abysmal" is one of such statements. Noone forces you to like the style but as Daymare said, you recognize a Mario game just by seeing tiny bits of it from miles away. Compare that with other platformers. I couldn't name one which was that consistent or memorable as any of the Mario games. Regardless of 2d or 3d.

  • manic_mouse #126 5 years ago

    How many "planets" are we talking about here? While there are bigger ones, there must be hundreds in the game surely?

  • Nikanoru #127 5 years ago

    artistically still abysmal

    I must echo other's sentiments by saying WHUT? You cannot possibly look at some of those screenshots and videos and go "yuck, that's some programmer art right there!" Just because it's not your taste doesn't mean it's not artistically sound. ;)


    Seems a bit shit, as Mario games tend to do.

    Now, just for the sake of it, let's say this was actually a serious comment (which it couldn't be, could it? Nahh). Can you give us any arguments as to why? Because this is certainly not clear to any of us from the evidence presented in this review, and past experience with the series. You might as well say "this water is dry, as water tends to be".

  • Decap #128 5 years ago

    Yippiee, another Mario-game!
    Tssh, who buys this sh*t D:

  • rock27gr #129 5 years ago

    Heh, I like how all the fanboy Mario/Wii haters here cannot comprehend how such a game can look THIS wonderful and not be HD, so they resort in the well known "denial" method, followed swiftly by an attack to the article's integrity/seriousness!

  • miiiguel #130 5 years ago

    Hey girls, this is great news, you get to finish (well not really) some fight this year after all.

  • Sid-Nice #131 5 years ago

    Nee Fucka in the Toon says "Newkie Broon" they say "A bottle of Broon" or a "Bottle of Dog." By the way it is easier to get a bottle of some obscure foreign lager than a bottle of Dog on the Quayside.

    Mario in Toon today.

  • Katsumoto #132 5 years ago

    By the same token, just increasing the resolution isn't enough to make a game look good

  • Nikanoru #133 5 years ago

    as far as I can see there's very little

    Then you certainly don't see very far.



    If you want truly amazing artistic design have a look at FF or RE4.

    So it's not artistic unless it's realistic looking, with pretty boys in it? How old are you again?


    You and a bunch of others are just desperately grasping at straws to have something to knock. Can't have so much positive hype for a stupid old Nintendo game now can we? ;)

  • MasterControlProgram #134 5 years ago

    This will be a Famitsu 40/40, granted.

  • FaceOmeter #135 5 years ago

    Super Mehrio Galaxy. Wiilol.

    That is all.

    They have a cave troll...

  • PapaSmurf630 #136 5 years ago


    "To be fair there have been many non-HD games that have looked better than this. It just looks like another Mario game to me, you folks blither on about artistic design, as far as I can see there's very little. If you enjoy television programs like 'Pokoyo' then I'm sure you would also enjoy Mario's visuals but they certainly aren't what I'd call impressive."

    +1

    Artistic design yes. My personal taste in artistic design? Not quite.

  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife #137 5 years ago

    Hehe. "...artistically still abysmal"

    Bring on the abysmalness! ;)

    http://im ages.eurogamer.net/assets/artic...

  • manic_mouse #138 5 years ago

    "eh, I like how all the fanboy Mario/Wii haters here cannot comprehend how such a game can look THIS wonderful and not be HD"

    Mario's graphics are very simplistic and wouldn't benefit much from added resolution, as there isn't any extra detail there to see. It's all cartoony, with simplistic shapes and plain textures. You aren't going to be seeing the pores in Mario's nose or anything. Which is definitely a good thing.

  • The-Bodybuilder #139 5 years ago

    I'm no mario fan (or even that much of a wii fan at the mo), but how anyone can say this game looks fugly is beyond me.

    The pics by themselves look fantastic.

  • Daymare #140 5 years ago

    @Kato

    "It just looks like another Mario game to me"

    It IS another Mario game ya *peep*!:) I don't want Mario game to look like (-insert any game here), we have (-again insert said game here) for that! Of course you have every right not to like the artistic style of a Mario game, but don't try to explain Why too much, 'cause some of us in this thread just won't understand you, no matter how hard you try;)
    Edited by 1 at 19/08/07 @ 17:36

  • Daymare #141 5 years ago

    Fair enough.

  • Sid-Nice #142 5 years ago

    Tato is an Xbox 360 fan-girl who has no interest in Mario or anything Nintendo; he likes to disrupt the Wii comments as he can't understand why the Wii is kicking the 360's arse. He is a sad fucker who is jealous of a little plastic box of components; old components may I add. :)

  • Der_tolle_Emil #143 5 years ago

    Kato, that is Samus Aran, not Hentai.

  • Sid-Nice #144 5 years ago

    There are no other kids on my estate Gato; just 6 acres of arable land and 10 acres of forestry.

  • Brianstorm #145 5 years ago

    Tato shouldn't you be in a PS3 thread if your idea of fun is spending the biggest amount of cash you can on a games box....

  • rock27gr #146 5 years ago

    Fato, errr, Kato, going by your own logic and your own profile pic, you are either a spotty little teenager that lusts for the pixellated ass of a male FF character, or an extremely nerdy man without girlfriend (that lusts for the pixellated ass of a male FF character).

    And please tell me you didn't just compared the graphics on FF9 with the wonderfully imagined and realised Mario Galaxy. (you DO know that FMV scenes do not count as game graphics, don't you?)

  • Sid-Nice #147 5 years ago

    Hato has only one friend. :)

  • Sid-Nice #148 5 years ago

    Kato is a dog.

    Sauce."
    Edited by 2 at 19/08/07 @ 23:57

  • rock27gr #149 5 years ago

    ok Paco, you win.

  • Sid-Nice #150 5 years ago

    You owned me? When you little cock? Is it because I've got a gay profile pick?

  • Sid-Nice #151 5 years ago

    If you weren't a silly little boy; you would ignore these articles concerning kiddie games with kiddie graphics. When I'm old enough for big boys’ toys; I'll be too busy playing on my Xbox 360 and PS3 to comment on gay Mario games.

  • Sid-Nice #152 5 years ago

    @Kato,
    Are you some kind of pervert thinking of kids in bed?

  • Xinch #153 5 years ago

    Never played Mario 64. Have N64 and Gamecube. Some people don't like mario you know.

  • orakio #154 5 years ago

    Sometimes it's best to walk away and not try to defend yourself. Sure, it's a laugh for the neutral reader, but by replying to every single insult or tease things are getting worse.

    In any case, the game looks very nice, but I don't think I'll get it either way. The only mario game I really ever liked was super mario RPG :-/

  • Daymare #155 5 years ago

    So much hate in this thread now:/

  • Daymare #156 5 years ago

    Nobody's owning anybody and thinking like that is childish. The more you insult someone, the more you insult yourself. Not that I don't have a problem with my Ego, just sayin':)

  • Sebo #157 5 years ago

    God, Twato really brings these forums down. I was hoping to come back in here and see some insightful Mario Galaxy discussion... but everyone has taken his bait and become wrapped up in his sad little game.

  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife #158 5 years ago

    I really think this Mario is shaping up to be a solid gold classic. The planets mechanic seems to deliver the feeling and simplicity of the 2D Marios but in a 3D environment. The graphically style is beautifully understated - it's all about creating a finely realised world that feels 'complete' and solid - yet manages to capture the feel of Mario.

    All in all I'm very excited about this title!

  • Sebo #159 5 years ago

    Disagreeing is fine Kato, but coming on and trying to get a rise from anyone you can is just sad. You have absolutely no interest in Mario or this game, so why come here to discuss it?

  • Tonka #160 5 years ago

    What a glorious preview. I want this game soooo bad.

  • afghan_jones #161 5 years ago

    What a ludicrous argument. Nice work all round.

  • Sebo #162 5 years ago

    Release date wise, Amazon have November 30, Play has October 5. Anyone know which is correct?

  • Katsumoto #163 5 years ago

    Yes, continuing this childish banter is just as sad as anything else you guys are talking about, so leave it. On the plus side, Hurrah, Super Mario Galaxy! It looks very tasty. I can barely contain my anticipation

  • Brianstorm #164 5 years ago

    'Tato is a spud... ;-)

  • Genji #165 5 years ago

    Is it possible for mods to lock or close comments threads? They can do it in the forum. I think it'd be OK to call this one "derailed".

    If not, however, then I will add to the general frothing anticipation. This looks real nice - a bit different from your average 3D platformer.

  • NewYork #166 5 years ago

    STFU, queer.

  • Katsumoto #167 5 years ago

    What adult reasoning!

  • Sebo #168 5 years ago

    Okay Kato here's two for you, to keep you happy

    Where do you get that I'm a fanboy?

    And where have you shown your interest in Mario Galaxy? All I can see is you p'ssing on the game

  • Sebo #169 5 years ago

    Should have added a third. Where did I say I think the game looks amazing?

  • Daymare #170 5 years ago

    Seeing a video and looking at the screenshots, SMG looks like it's just.. winking at me.. "come.. plaay mee.." It really looks inviting.. It wakes a dormant child in me and thAt is priceless to me:)
    Edited by 1 at 20/08/07 @ 10:43

  • Sebo #171 5 years ago

    "As for you being a fanboy, well surely you must be to have taken offence at me not loving the visuals as much as Sid or ( I presume) yourself."

    Where did I say I took offense at you not liking the visuals? I also own a 360 and PS3, so there's not even the slight bit of fanboyism in me. You have a fantastic imagination, presumably because of your tender age.

    "All I've said is that I personally am not overly impressed, yeah it looks but imo not amazing in any way what so ever."

    Thus portraying your limited interest in the game. So you bought a Wii and you are regretting it, is that right? Sell it and move on and give the rest of us peace.




  • Daymare #172 5 years ago

    Can't we just drop this bickering? It's not going anywhere, noone's gonna "win" or "loose", C'mon!

  • Sebo #173 5 years ago

    @Daymare

    Exactly what I'm hoping happens to be honest. It's easy to get drawn in by Kato though... my bad.

  • Sebo #174 5 years ago

    You are interested in arguments more than games. So lets just leave at that.

    By the way, Sehorse, thumbs up, great band.

  • Sebo #175 5 years ago

    Was actually offering some advice, but such are these things.

  • Sebo #176 5 years ago

    "What's up Sid? The other kids on the estate pick on you because you wear hand me down clothes from Primark? Mummy couldn't afford a 360 for you so you take it out on people who actually have one?"

    "Regardless of who it is, cartoon pervery is still a bit sad and usually the pursuit of teenage boys or extremely nerdy men without girlfriends I'd imagine;)"

    "Tato? Gato? Wow, you two display such an amazing wit, you're almost as funny as AIDS. "Arable land" lol so you're either a farmers boy or a tramp/hermit who lives in the woods?"

    "Seriously I can't make your life any worse than it already is so I'll leave you with your little Mario loyalty and hentai collection and be on my way:)"

    "Lol, oh dear, someone who envisages 'net friends' on a gaming site as an indication of popularity in 'real life'. I bet you're the kind of person who registers with sites like Facebook/Friends Reunited and adds everyone you've ever met to your friends list even though they never liked you in the first place just to help yourself believe you're not alone."

    "Don't cry Sid, I promise not to tell your 16 net buddies about how I owned your arse and treated you like my jail-bird bitch. Then again you like big fat greasy looking Italians with handlebar mustaches so your sexuality probably wouldn't surprise anyone... "

    "Lol goodnight Sid, you've bored me to a state of partial death, and I'm tired of owning you now, so I'll let you snuggle up with your teddy and dream of Mario."

    "know what you mean but tbh I was having a great time winding Sid up, the best part was watching him crack, it happened at precisely 00:12:31 this morning. Knowing he'd been severely owned he first tried to deny ownage, followed by a childish insult involving small genitals and to finish his post off he engaged in a pre-emtive strike regarding the gayness of his own profile in the knowledge I may have picked up on it to cause massive damage!"

    ..................................

    Are you proud of those posts? If you don't think that's bringing the forum down then there's nothing we can do for you.

  • Sebo #177 5 years ago

    The body of evidence is against you for insiting things, so you might as well give it up.

  • Sebo #178 5 years ago

    Stuff about Primark, AIDS, Facebook and "owning people" is about the visuals in Mario Galaxy? This should be some game then.

    I love the way you used "incoherent" - because that's exactly what your last post is. What exactly am I "wrong" about?

    You could argue with your shadow. I hope am brightening your morning by giving you the attention you so desperately crave.

    And give up on the spelling stuff, it's a forum, nobody is giving these posts that much thought.

  • Sid-Nice #179 5 years ago

    "Super Mehrio Galaxy. Wiilol.

    That is all."

    Was your first comment Kato.

    My first comment was...

    "Am I the only one who isn't impressed with this game?"

    You come on here trying to get a rise out of the Nintendo fans; when they bite you retort to insulting them and calling them kids. Being the mature gamer that you are; how could you not see what a prick your actions make you look?

  • varsas #180 5 years ago

    "Super Mehrio Galaxy. Wiilol.

    That is all."

    "So because I'm not overwhelmed by the graphics of a game, I therefore have limited interest in it?"

    Hmm...even if you are not impressed by the graphics but still interested in the game I'm not sure your first comment gives the impression to anyone that you are interested.

    Do you want to take your original comment back now?

  • Sebo #181 5 years ago

    Valid points? On what? The only point I've made this morning is that you bring the forums down with your constant insults and winding people up.

    You claim you have only been responding to insults "levied" at you. As Sid Nice pointed out, thats not the case.

    Everyone on here sees you for what you are. Someone who takes pleasure in getting a reaction from people. Honestly, I'm asking you nicely, just talk about games and leave the other sh't behind.


  • JYM60 #182 5 years ago

    That Kato sock of mine is really working a treat.

  • Sebo #183 5 years ago

    @Kato

    Cool

  • Sebo #184 5 years ago

    @kato

    Actually, super cool

  • varsas #185 5 years ago

    I see Kato hasn't refuted that he's contradicted himself. Is he or is he not interested in SMG?

  • JYM60 #186 5 years ago

    He thinks the graphics are great, best maybe, but think mario has AIDS and tried to spam him via facebook.

    Mario also shops in Primark, the cheap bastard.

  • Sid-Nice #187 5 years ago

    Primark? Cheeky fucker, I get my school uniform from George at Asda.

  • Sebo #188 5 years ago

    Is your uniform blue dungarees and a red t-shirt and cap sid?? Since we are all raging fanboys, ha ha

  • Kryon #189 5 years ago

    Do you children actually play games or just hang around in here bickering all day?

    /Wonders when the little tykes return to school (hopes it's soon)

  • Sebo #190 5 years ago

    @kryon

    Wish I could play games at work, but unfortunately can only hope for some decent discussion about them in here.

  • Kryon #191 5 years ago

    @Sebo

    I feel for you mate, in my line of work I manage to sneak in a game or two where ever possible:)

    Anyway, SMG looks pretty promising, hopefully a return to form after the slightly under par Sunshine... Not to mention that Luigis Mansion nonsense!

  • YourMessageHere #192 5 years ago

    on the offchance that anyone who isn't having a silly fight is still reading this:

    I said "artistically still abysmal" because the game was being compared to all other games, of every type. If the article had said it was the best looking *platform* game in the world, I suppose I could live with that. It's also true that all Mario games look like mario games at the merest glance; it makes them recognisable, but I'd say that was a far better effect for marketing purposes than it was for gameplay. When you come down to it, it's all a matter of bright colours and simple forms, it's not clever or especially attractive, it just does a job. SMG cannot, however, hold a guttering tealight to the likes of Bioshock, or the Final Fantasy games, or even the Unreal series; the art design for them is very well developed, complex, varied and also instantly recognisable.

  • sniglet #193 5 years ago

    @ YourMessageHere

    It's not clever or especially attractive to YOU.

    That's the funny thing about visual media, it's a very personal thing. Now, have your own well-written opinion, but don't spread it around as FACT.

    Unreal, imo has one of the most trite and boring art styles of any game you care to mention (and I've played and enjoyed most Unreal titles, esp. UT and UT2k3). Bioshock is obviously beautiful to look at and the art team did an exceptional job, but they had all manner of reference material for the time period they tried to recreate.

    I think the Mario style is nice and well suited to the genre and is one that has certainly evolved over time. SMW had one of the best unified creative styles I've seen in a game. Every element seemed to fit appropriately and nothing seemed out of place. Continuity of visual style is a big deal for me in games though.

    Bright colours and simple forms are the most difficult thing to get right too, any designer will tell you that. It's much easier (not technically, but in a visual sense) to take every reference you can from real life and transpose/exaggerate that onto a TV/monitor and have it look good.

    Anyway, looking forward to this game, sure it will look great but hopefully it'll play even better.

  • Kryon #194 5 years ago

    In fear of being lynched by ankle biting fanboys, I actually agree with SeesThroughAll. Love the style of SMG or hate it, imo it doesn't really look as if it pushes the envelope. It's very nice but not 'incredible', that's not what Mario is about.

  • Sid-Nice #195 5 years ago

    HAHAHAAA You suck-arse little faggits, Suck my cock and yes both all of you are paedophiles who fancy your younger siblings lol.

    I would be a paedophile if I sucked your cock little boy.

  • Kryon #196 5 years ago

    @ Sid

    Maybe it's time to leave it now? Not being funny but there are children who browse this site, I'm not sure if you are a kid yourself (no offense intended) but this really isn't the place for 'that' kind of thing is it.

  • Sid-Nice #197 5 years ago

    Super Mario Galaxy Feature: Story - “Every hundred years a comet passes over the Mushroom Kingdom and rains down magical stars and stardust, and as Princess Peach and the citizens of the kingdom are celebrating the centennial event, Bowser and his legions attack. As Mario attempts to put a stop to Bowser’s shenanigans, but things go awry: the next thing he knows, he finds himself on a mysterious moon high above the Mushroom Kingdom.” The game will have 120 stars to retrieve and will feature 40 galaxies and six major regions. Gateway Galaxy provides a planet-hopping romp through space in which you’ll be chasing space rabbits (who are really stars), collect star chips, fight a gargantuan Goomba to get a key and more. Star Dust Galaxy, you’ll use Beam Stars to manoeuvre amid space debris, journey across an old rocket, rescue toads and more. There are also multiple missions in a particular galaxy like in Egg Planet Galaxy. Cookie Factory Galaxy features plenty of moving platforms, bottomless pits and more. Power-ups include: Super Mushroom (it increases your health to max), Invincibility Star, Fire Flower, Bee Mario and Boo Mario suits.

  • Kryon #198 5 years ago

    See, that was a much nicer post:) and the game does sound awesome!

  • Sid-Nice #199 5 years ago

    @Kryon,
    Don't try and patronise me with your primary school mistress attitude; trying to insinuate that "I SID NICE am a child?" As far as I’m concerned the case is closed; unless Kato wants to continue the feud. I was only playing along with him having a laugh; Kato is the one who has being throwing words like faggot and paedophile around. The problem isn't children browsing Eurogamer; the problem is children joining Eurogamer, as they retort to insults and foul language because it is their way of showing that they are adult and all grown up.

  • Chonk #200 5 years ago

    OMG Kato, you are the most uptight argumentative (argue for arguments sake) person ive seen comment here, just look at the number of people "inbetween" your posts trying to make related comments on... yes the flippin game!
    Enough BS about semantics and who said what and in what context and when and why...sigh ... just quit suckering people into responding to your... frankly at this stage, waffle... crap! ... see??!! you've done it to me! :p

    ps: the game looks like its going to be ace ... sigh

  • Sebo #201 5 years ago

    @chonk

    Oh dear, I hope you haven't awoken the beast again...

  • Kryon #202 5 years ago

    Sid, Unlike your little friend Kato, I'm not here to play with you. You and him are one and the same, and it was you who (in a round about way) started talking about paedophilia so either speak to me about the game or do not speak to me. Understand? There's a good little chap.

  • smelly #203 5 years ago

    sigh.. grow up people.

    (its amazing the most childish people on here, are the first to complain about a game being "kiddy";)

  • Carrybagma #204 5 years ago

    Eurogamer text adventure:
    You are in the Super Mario Galaxy - First Impressions comments thread.
    Your initial delight at entering any thread to do with the happy plumber who brings primary-coloured jumping joy to all the peoples is dashed by the realisation that it is actually the cacked-up poo-pipe down which everyone has dropped a number 2. It stinks in here. All the walls are covered in bile and excrement, with the resultant smell burning your lungs and making you choke. How could such an innocent article result in such a horrid thread. You feel sad. You want to weep. You want to quit.

  • Carrybagma #205 5 years ago

    Eurogamer text adventure:
    > quit
    Are you sure?
    > very
    You have quit.

  • Carrybagma #206 5 years ago

    Eurogamer text adventure:
    You gained no points.
    You found no treasure.



    CARRYBAGMA SCORED NO POINTS!
    THANK YOU FOR PLAYING EUROGAMER TEXT ADVENTURE.
    PLEASE TRY AGAIN.

  • Sid-Nice #207 5 years ago

    Kryon, It will be a pleasure not to converse with you on any subject. Please do not reply with your patronising good little chap bullshit as you are becoming very irritating. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t quote me. Comprehend?

  • Kryon #208 5 years ago

    @Sid

    I'm glad we both agree that it's in neither of our interests to continue to converse with each other but there's no need to swear, it's not particularly big or clever.

    /Pats Sid on his scruffy ickle head.

    @Smelly/Sebo (or any other mature EG folk)

    Has anyone been able to locate any decent quality video clips of SMG running? I've only come across very low quality or very short clips but want to see more?

  • afghan_jones #209 5 years ago

    This has to be the most bitter and hatefilled thread Ive ever encountered. And it wasnt even my fault! Top stuff guys.

    For extra marks, keep the feud alive once it drops off the front page. Then you know its a real winner.

  • Sid-Nice #210 5 years ago

    YES.

    YES.

    Who's the daddy now little boys?

  • Kryon #211 5 years ago

    Lol, well in an immaturity contest, you certainly win Sid, you've just hit a new low. I can almost smell the desperation as you frantically rack your brain cell in a futile attempt to 'win teh interwebz'

    Kids, sigh...

  • Brianstorm #212 5 years ago

    Do you think they'll do a promotion with galaxy chocolate bars for the launch, to counter any resentment from hardcore gamers regarding wii fit?

  • Sebo #213 5 years ago

    November 16 official release date if anyone cares.