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Star Wars: The Old Republic Hands On

MMO PC Hands On by Oli Welsh

3 December, 2009

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You can't fault BioWare and LucasArts' showmanship, but when you're working with what they're working with, it's almost too easy. At a recent EA press event, we were shown and allowed to play their Star Wars MMO, The Old Republic, behind closed doors. We suspect this was only so they could have a hydraulic octagonal door to put the game behind, with a Stormtrooper guarding it, quacking officiously at loitering journos. Cheesy? Perhaps, but it's impossible to stop a little genuine excitement slipping into your cynical smile.

The visual language was pure 1977, however - not just the first Star Wars film, but the first five minutes of it. Considering that BioWare's work is set some 3500 years before the events of the films, was it all that appropriate? And if The Old Republic is the success it can be - its makers surely have the massed millions of World of Warcraft in their sights - will its own iconography be as potent one day?

There's no reason why not. But it's also something of a moot point, because BioWare, while giving the setting its own flavour, is keeping those touchstones very close to hand. That much is clear from the way the character classes are introduced. The Trooper is a Stormtrooper, back when they were on the side of good. The Smuggler is Han Solo, the Bounty Hunter is Boba Fett, the Sith Warrior is Vader and the Jedi Knight is Obi Wan.

'Star Wars: The Old Republic' Screenshot 1

Of the three more recently-announced classes, only the Imperial Agent doesn't have a direct analogue in the classic Star Wars canon. The Agent is a stealth specialist and gadgeteer with talents in subterfuge, infiltration and assassination and a story arc (each Old Republic class has its own epic quest line) showing you the political underbelly of the Sith Empire. Although we didn't see one in action, the Agent seems like an exciting cross between the classic role-playing rogue and an engineer class with a dash of dastardly James Bond about him - definitely appealing, and slotting smoothly into the set-up.

For the remaining two classes, we're back to that original-trilogy cast list - although the distinctions get a little muddier, because we're dealing with a second Sith and second Jedi. Perhaps fearing servers awash with Jedi and Sith, BioWare has decided to split the vote. The Sith Inquisitor and Jedi Consular are, like the Warrior and Knight, lightsaber-wielding, Force-using characters. They're likened to Emperor Palpatine and Yoda respectively, but aside from the Inquisitor's Force lightning powers, there isn't much that sets them apart from their team-mates at first glance.

The Consular and Inquisitor are weighted more towards ranged Force powers than lightsaber melee combat, and both have good crowd-control skills - stuns and dazes, the Consular using telekinesis, the Inquisitor lightning. Neither's afraid to get up close and personal, however, the Consular possessing a Force pull that will bring distant enemies under its lightsaber.

'Star Wars: The Old Republic' Screenshot 2

The "thoughtful" Consular will also be able to specialise in healing, but The Old Republic's specialisation system is intended to offer options not restrict them, and reduce the obstacles to soloing or finding a suitable group. You'll be able to quickly swap between specialisations on your character, so there should be "no worrying about finding a healer", according to LucasArts. Using the Smuggler as an example, you could choose to configure the cowboy opportunist as a "scoundrel" - a short-range stealth rogue, skilled in medicine - or a "gunslinger", your classic dual-wielding ranger.

BioWare also showed off the AI companions you'll be able to collect for your character, which - along with the fully-voiced conversational options and moral barometer - it has carried over to The Old Republic from its single-player RPGs. The two examples given were Inquisitor Companions: Khem Val the Dashade, a hulking alien tank who fights with his fists, and Xalek the Kaleesh, a "Darth Maul-style" lightsaber-wielding damage-dealer. They were only shown filling these simple roles in combat, so the extent of interaction with them doesn't currently seem that different from a traditional MMO "pet" character, although we're sure BioWare has more complex plans in the works.

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Sunyavadin
03/12/09 @ 08:31
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the companions do raise some interesting questions. If you never actually need other players, what will make The Old Republic an MMO?

The same things that make Guild Wars one?

Although there is a lot of criticism about GW's hero system included in Nightfall, one cannot argue that it hasn't contributed to the game's longevity, with players who would otherwise have given up on the game still playing with customised AI henchmen.
Huddy
03/12/09 @ 08:33
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Impressive.
Gl3n
03/12/09 @ 08:36
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I'm struggling to see the multiplayer side of this game.

What's there does sound interesting though.
Shinetop
03/12/09 @ 09:09
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But BioWare is bringing a lot to MMOs with The Old Republic, much of it very exciting - the iconic classes, the flexibility, the narrative ambition the endless grind and mindnumbing icon-clicking combat loops.

I don't know, it sounds interesting, but there's a lot of "We're sure they're finetuning this" from Eurogamer on this.
Scimarad
03/12/09 @ 09:12
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the companions do raise some interesting questions. If you never actually need other players, what will make The Old Republic an MMO?

The fact that you have to pay a subscription to play?
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mkreku
03/12/09 @ 09:14
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A lengthy setup that leads to a fetch quest? That's not a good sign. Down with fetch quests!
Boomerang
03/12/09 @ 09:35
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I'm super excited about this, but i won't be breaking my self-imposed "no MMO" rule, as i'd never get anything done!

/weeps
Magic Panda
03/12/09 @ 09:37
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Can't help but think fully voicing an MMO and especially your own avatar is a mistake. Think of the cost and time alone to add something that mmos live and die on. Patch updates.
cnlfailure
03/12/09 @ 09:42
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Dear MMO developers, I'm never happier than playing one of this genre of game however for the love of god please stop emulating the EQ/AC/WoW model of gameplay and take another look at the UO/SWG/EVE way of doing things. I don't want quests, I want a persistent world where I choose my own way through it. I don't want levels, I want to work individual skills to make my character unique to me. I don't want to be a combat character, the best times I've had have been when crafting, or politicking, or socialising.

I don't want to be spoonfed "content", give me a rich world and I'll make it for myself.
Antaios
03/12/09 @ 09:44
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@ Sunyavadin: that is one of the reasons I still play GW a lot. I have different working hours than most of my friends, so when they're not online when I am (which happens often), there is still an option to solo story content or do other stuff. I didn't know TOR had companions until I read this article, but it's made me excited.
anomagnus
03/12/09 @ 09:49
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I dont think this is going to be like WoW at all, in regards the multiplayer aspect. After all, as this website has said, if people want to play a WoW like game, they'll play WoW.

I don't picture 25 man jedi raids being the end game, this seems very story driven, and very personal. I expect it will be a case of interacting with other people as they pursue their own stories throughout the galaxies, as opposed to WoW's group nature of hitting 80, and doing virtually everything in a group.

I think it sounds like a very good alternative to WoW, incredibly story driven, with the added benefit of having other real life people to interact with.

It almost sounds like a perfect 40K Inquisitor MMO

EDIT: Dont get me wrong, i love WoW, my guild is ranked third on my server, and we're about to nail Anub 25 man HC (12% wipes now), i just like this idea of personal MMO's with people following their own destinies.

not sure why someone would mark down what i say though....
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iamian
03/12/09 @ 10:32
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About the GW comparisson -

Exactly what I was thinking too. I loved GW and spent a lot of time playing that. Even if not solo, having a half full team and padding the rest with heroes/companions means you don't spend all night looking for people that aren't idiots.

I'm looking forward to this but there's still a lot more details needed!
MrParker
03/12/09 @ 10:35
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As much as I love Bioware and their games, I'm still feeling pretty mixed about TOR. Eurogamer seemed to be cutting them a lot of slack in this hands on. It's starting to sound a little more like an evolution of WoW and less like this epic story PR has been mentioning. I hope they don't drop the ball though.
thelzdking
03/12/09 @ 10:41
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Looks good, but I'd rather have KotOR 3.
qoobah
03/12/09 @ 10:54
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In all honesty, while the preview sounds "OKish" I really can't get myself excited about this, which is strange seeing as I'm a huge BioWare disciple and even bigger Star Wars one.

Somehow I can't help but feel that MMOs are not about what they are trying to do here - adding single player story etc - but about worlds and the ability to 'live' in them. EVE does that, and even WoW does that, despite its structure. I don't see anything here that would indicate that BW's focus is on creating livable world, not arbitrary storylines.

Not to mention, as others pointed out, the potential cost and effort required for updates etc. Thats just insane.
Kanjin
03/12/09 @ 10:57
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We'll see...
hiddenranbir
03/12/09 @ 11:48
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Sounds interesting but I just don't want monthly subs any more for MMOs.

A one off life time sub please, maybe!
Freki
03/12/09 @ 11:54
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@cnlfailure

You are unlikely to see a large name mainstream MMO do a sandbox style game. Small niche companies, possibly, but not a big name.
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03/12/09 @ 11:56
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@anomagnus
I dont think this is going to be like WoW at all, in regards the multiplayer aspect. After all, as this website has said, if people want to play a WoW like game, they'll play WoW.

I don't picture 25 man jedi raids being the end game, this seems very story driven, and very personal. I expect it will be a case of interacting with other people as they pursue their own stories throughout the galaxies, as opposed to WoW's group nature of hitting 80, and doing virtually everything in a group.


I don't know, I think you need that kind of challenging end-game content otherwise people have less incentive to play together and so less incentive to stick with the game (the end-game is hugely important in these games, IMO). The whole thing will seem less like an MMO and more like an online only singleplayer. I like the AI henchmen idea though.

I do think that WoW needs more single-player end-game content: a "gauntlet" style single-player dungeon would be fun for when you only have half an hour to play and don't just want to do dailies or PVP.

It almost sounds like a perfect 40K Inquisitor MMO

That's my dream, that or a Necromunda gang MMO. :)
BadgerFiend
03/12/09 @ 12:23
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@qoobah

I think there's a potential for these personal storylines to work. Take LOTRO for example - youi have an epic storyline that you can follow, should you wish. For the most part, the epics can be done as solo missions and only occassionally (usually the end of a Book) you get a relatively tough group instance. I would have thought that TOR will follow this pretense but allow the "epic" or "personal" storyline to be played entirely solo.

However this system has pro's and con's. On several occassions I have not been able to find a group for epics in LOTRO for hours, finally becoming bored and moving on to my next destination and (on occassions) never returning to finish the epic quests. Potentially one might completely miss some of the best content in the game because of this dynamic.

But making the personal plot line exclusively solo could remove the group dynamic entirely and would make it more like a single player experience just with other people in communal areas. Personally, when I find the right group coupled with a challenging, fun instance you get some of the best moments imaginable.

Just my 2 pennies
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03/12/09 @ 12:42
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I think everyone that's looking forward to this has their own, very high expectations of what it should be like. Guess that's the problem with trying to use something so iconic...
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03/12/09 @ 12:49
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I'm hoping at the very least we can have a couple of companions pulling healing duty rather than being forced into it myself. If it adds nothing more than the ability to play instances without one player being forced into a role virtually no-one enjoys then it will have done more for the genre than anything since City of Heroes.
davisorle
03/12/09 @ 12:51
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Like ive been saying from the start a game like this is more or less bound to have a bad PvP which is my main interest. The fact that its not so .... MMO like and feels more linear for the genre might be from the only ways to not makes every other class feel inferior. Star Wars is indeed too hard to pull to be done as a balanced MMO. I dont know really. Ive never been too much into Star Wars but always into MMOs and Biowares amazing games. No matter what, i just hope its not a bad game and that it gives you reasons to buy it so we can have more games to play than trashtalk about.
Gurgeh
03/12/09 @ 12:55
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If Star Wars isnt your thing there's Star Trek coming along as well:

http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/1427015...

Looks surprisingly good - however it is Cryptic developing it so it's in the "will believe it works when I see it" category.
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@ davisorle

Agreed ;)

@ Rubarack

yes I suppose there is a possibilty of a third option. Perhaps there could be a solo "quest" mode where you tackle the instance with just your companions/henchmen and then a harder group instance mode that replays like a typical MMO raid/dungeon instance. Would probably keep most player styles pretty happy and allow most to view all the pretty content.
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03/12/09 @ 13:27
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@ Badgerfiend

Sounds good. Could be something like Borderlands where the enemys level up as more players are added?
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03/12/09 @ 13:34
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Every preview that appears online skips the issue that makes or breaks the game: gameplay mechanics. So far they only talk (a lot) about storylines (which is great for single player games, but not so important online, I think), but the only glimpses of how the game actually plays can be seen only if you read between the lines (mention of fetch quests at the very beginning in this article, for example).

I have a sad feeling that for all the talk of stories and iconic professions (I really despise that word ever since smedley used it to destroy swg), the game might be another grindathon of fetch quests. I'm not saying it's terribly wrong. Just that it's not what I'm looking for when it comes to an online game.
Skorms-Boss
03/12/09 @ 14:46
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Love star wars
Don’t play mmo
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outy
03/12/09 @ 16:54
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i'm in
zippie151
03/12/09 @ 17:38
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So what this is a MMO or a single player game with MMO elements that you have to pay subscription for? From the sounds of it Bioware should have made this a two part game; single player (with the companions etc) with the option of subscribing for the MMO style multi player and obvious extras that would come with.
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03/12/09 @ 17:40
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Questions still remain about the action, but in fairness we were playing in less than ideal conditions - on separate instances with no other players about - even if we were surrounded by luxurious LucasArts props and extras in real life.

Less than ideal conditions? I got the feeling that this is how the game is intended to work (in separate instances), I can't imagine queuing waiting for Darth Badguyian to respawn. Or what if someone else triggers the "mothership go boom now" section while you're on it.

Or am I wrong?
curtlikesmeat
03/12/09 @ 17:59
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Hello young Padawan! Perhaps you can help me? With all the stress of new Jedis and Sith running about my hair seems to have fallen out. I noticed some space rats behind the crates over there - if you could see your way to bringing me their furs perhaps I could fashion some sort of a space-wig from them!

Collected furs from space-rats: 0/58

Accept DECLINE
Hydrogene
03/12/09 @ 18:37
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This hands on doesn't seem to show that Bioware are really breaking the *rules* of MMO to make it something really interesting and genre-changing. If it wasn't the Star Wars universe, I wouldn't even spend a second on a new WoW-like MMO with levelling and loot.
The fetch quest is really disapointing news. :(
I really hope I'm wrong, though...
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03/12/09 @ 20:51
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hands on? I am sorry but it seems just like another preview to me with only few sentences dedicated to your personal experience. shame on you, Oli Welsh
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06/12/09 @ 10:21
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@ cnlfailure - why don't you put that in practice in real life? :P
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10/12/09 @ 20:52
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Dont know why people keep saying how is it an mmo if we can use companions.

Can you really compare a game AI to that of Players raiding, humans dont have bugs ect and well i cant see myself raiding with AI, it wont work. And well we will see how it works out.

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