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Star Wars: The Force Unleashed Comments by Johnny Minkley

15 September, 2008

Delusions of grandeur?

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Beano
15/09/08 @ 12:14
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Gametrailers.com bashed this game. Mentions loads of bugs and glitches as the main reason.

Video review here: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39954...

I'm gonna wait and get this on sale or used... does not sound like it's worth the full price.
des
15/09/08 @ 12:17
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Star Wars:Lol
dr_faulk
15/09/08 @ 12:26
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And I was expecting such a big turn around for Lucas Arts...
Darren
15/09/08 @ 12:35
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I thought the demo was good (hated the QTE boss at the end though!) but I won't be buying the full game, I can't really be bothered with it and this review and other reviews imply that it's far from essential anyway. Sounds like a good game to pick up once it hits the £20 price point but it's not something I'm willing to pay full-price for.

So, for me, the wait goes on for Pure, a game I really cannot wait to play...
saku_luk
15/09/08 @ 12:47
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Jedi Knight - Jedi Academy is still the best game for me :/
3william56
15/09/08 @ 12:58
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Surprised. The graphics on the PS3 demo are nice, but the use of the force grip is too angular, and just looks unnatural. And the basic indestructibility (can take massive amounts of rapid fire from the walker because you have to stand still using force push) just breaks the immersion. A Jedi/Sith whatever isn't superman, and if Alec Guiness can get shishkebabed by a sabre swipe, you'd think a Tie Fighter laser in the mush would sort out an apprentice.

Jeez I wish devs would come up with something more interesting than a health bar getting worn down by zillions of hits. It ends up like an episode of the A Team - massive firepower and noise to no effect. Particularly when it applies to enemies - a stormtrooper needing half a dozen sabre swipes to drop, which a single swish should slice him in half. Make it harder to hit, but more damage. Same net effect, more realistic mechanic.

Sorry, not even a funky story will have this one getting bought.

"You're Fired"
knightmt
15/09/08 @ 13:10
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I will still be renting this.
UncleLou
15/09/08 @ 13:16
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So this is the game that allegedly would need a 3000 US$ PC to run, which is why there's no PC version. Hehe. A likely story.
zuul_
15/09/08 @ 13:19
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Very good review. I finished the game over the weekend and I can 100% agree with what's been said in the review.

Awesome Star Wars atmosphere, but stuff like being able to just ignore enemies, stupid QTE, artificially making the game harder by just throwing tons of enemies in later levels, the ABYSMAL plant world... And sucky chain knockdowns by certain enemy attacks. Gah... those ruin the fun.

I did not encounter bugs thou, thou sometimes my force powers just wouldnt work, but that might be due to the sucky autotargeting.

PlugMonkey
15/09/08 @ 13:27
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It's cute to watch Stormtroopers desperately grabbing on to each other to avoid being blown away by your Force powers, but apart from that their primary directive seems to be to stand still and fire.

Heh heh. Have you ever seen a Star Wars film? I'm pretty sure seeking cover must be a court martial offense for Stormtroopers.

And herein lies the biggest problem: for all the rich possibilities thrown up by a muscular game engine, taking advantage is all too often inessential to progress and so many will coast through the game without noticing the finer points.

This doesn't bother me, frankly. I'm sick of games putting in 'hidden'' things for me to discover and then sign posting them to the point of visibility from outer space. If you want to give imaginative players the feeling of discovery you have to make it so that unimaginative ones might miss it altogether. Sod 'em. :)

It's a combat game, with crap combat mechanics? You can't just give it extra marks because it's star wars, and I was so looking forward to a 5/10.

You can if it makes the experience more fun.

In the final game, can I slice a Stormtrooper in half with a lightsabre?

I couldn't in the demo and that is such a major deal breaker for me.


That really bugged me in the demo as well. Droids get neatly sliced in two, but stormtroopers are impervious? If I couldn't slice the droids up, I wouldn't notice as much.
1Dgaf
15/09/08 @ 13:34
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Wouldn't it have been better to mark the game 6/10, but include in the review 'Star Wars fans can add an extra point on for the story'?
Ronan_Crawford
15/09/08 @ 13:37
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May put this on hold. I played the demo and it was good enough. The only thing that annoyed me was the slightly unresponsive controls. Starting Uni next week anyway and I really want to play the new BIA. So I think I'll get that instead..
symmetry
15/09/08 @ 13:44
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Expected this score but pre-ordered it anyway on the strength of the demo, which I played though about 4 times.

Good fun!
iago71
15/09/08 @ 13:44
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LOL @ Bonker.......
schachmatt
15/09/08 @ 14:18
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So will loads of other people sending the message.

A proper Pc developer could probably do so much with this prototype version.
Gearskin
15/09/08 @ 14:33
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... I AM YOUR DADDY!
TedMoseby
15/09/08 @ 14:35
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Having played the demo, I found it all a bit underwhelming. Given a blaster rifle and better controls, along with some much more diverse sabering skills, that hanger would have been stripped of enemies in half the time it takes to grab something - move it into position - throw it at someone; rinse and repeat etc. It seems as if the game has been built around the physics engine, rather than the engine having been designed to support the gameplay.

Certainly won't be buying this for a while, especially with Fable 2 and Fallout 3 on the horizon (although dare I say it, hopes may well be dashed with those as well!)

I can't help but think that if LucasArts were to retool Jedi Outcast and Jedi Academy with the Force Unleashed engine, a whole lot of people would be happy.
Krelle
15/09/08 @ 14:48
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@menage:

Couldnt agree more.
I actually have time finish short games. Around 7 hours is the sweetspot for me. Could even be shorter (3-4h) if the quality is top notch. Like Braid.
GordonCaladan
15/09/08 @ 14:51
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Star Wars:Lol

Sums up my thoughts about the downward spiral of this franchise perfectly.
PlugMonkey
15/09/08 @ 15:04
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Sums up my thoughts about the downward spiral of this franchise perfectly.

Why on earth would that make you 'lol'? Unless you were an utter cretin.
Gearskin
15/09/08 @ 15:08
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And how can you consider the "downward spiral" of a franchise that has banked INSANE amounts of money for more than 20 years?

Unless you were slightly retarded?

Star Wars > You. George Lucas > You.

He built his own freakin' Empire off the back of this, the reach of which extends far beyond just Star Wars.
Snidesworth
15/09/08 @ 15:13
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Good mixed with bad, then. Style over substance by the sound of things, though still good fun. Think I might pick it up later after it's dropped in price.
HoriZon
15/09/08 @ 15:15
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I still fancy it though with nothing out for me till Oct 24th for FC2, i do have CoD4 to play though, really not interested the online part minds. Also got The Darkness to sniff though but this is SW man!!

Cancel pre-order? hmmm cant decide, seen a few views now and some video reviews yeah it sounds linear and dull in places and apparently has a load of bugs but what games dont have bugs? i loved AC and that was very linear to.

For me 7-8 hours is gaming heaven games that go on to long i get bored of.
hiddenranbir
15/09/08 @ 15:21
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How did you give this a seven?

Miths
15/09/08 @ 15:23
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"tediously unchallenging button sequences"

"The Force Unleashed is not a difficult game"

Count me in then. Sounds like a game I might actually enjoy (and I had a blast with the demo) and finish, rather than one where I give up in frustration half way through because I'm a crappy gamer :p.
Razz
15/09/08 @ 15:33
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7/10 is a little high after that review.
creepylizard
15/09/08 @ 15:39
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but surely the most important question is, do the bodies vanish once you've killed an enemy? its always bugged me when they do....
which is a problem as this happens in 99% of games....
Trafford
15/09/08 @ 15:50
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A real shame.LA were wearing some pretty big pants in the run up to this.

I must resist for now.
PlugMonkey
15/09/08 @ 15:52
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creepy - you should definitely play STALKER, if you haven't already. After one particularly epic gunbattle I spent 10 minutes dragging the bodies into a neat pile so I could keep track of which one's I had looted.

There really is no better navigational landmark than a corpse cairn at a key junction.

(Remember: It's always good country craft so add a new corpse to the top of a cairn every time you pass, to maintain it for yourself and other hikers)
Sar
15/09/08 @ 15:58
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Good for a rental tbh.
creepylizard
15/09/08 @ 16:02
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@plugmonkey

sounds good, actually. I sadly, only have the360 though.......
quantumsheep
15/09/08 @ 16:05
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So does it unlock a character in Soul Calibur IV then???
septimus
15/09/08 @ 16:08
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Loved the demo so still getting it.
OnlyMe
15/09/08 @ 16:08
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I've enjoyed plenty of EG 7/10 games. I think this will be worthy of an import. Can't imagine there being any interesting DLC coming for it.
Maximilian
15/09/08 @ 16:09
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I stopped reading after I learned there are QTE's. I passionately hate them.

I would have bought the game if it weren't for that, regardless of the lacklustre score.
Gearskin
15/09/08 @ 16:16
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^

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
captain-future
15/09/08 @ 16:43
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yeah right... 5/10 for Mercs 2 and 7/10 for LAME BORING STAR WARS GAME THAT WAS DONE BETTER 8 YEARS AGO.

pah!
curtlikesmeat
15/09/08 @ 17:15
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I'm going to give this a miss too I'm afraid.

Gone are the days when any Star Wars game was a guaranteed purchased regardless of quality.
sirtacos
15/09/08 @ 17:22
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



I'm still getting this. The (apparently) enthralling narrative outweighs the faults. I can work my way around the mediocre gameplay.
Khanivor
15/09/08 @ 17:43
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Rental.
soviet_
15/09/08 @ 18:40
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Well, it sounds awesome to me. I loved the demo, the only thing that was a bit off, and frankly quite surprising are the QTE.

And Jedi Academy? Scoff, I love Star Wars and the majority of the games, but come on, that game was on the poor side
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Ryze
15/09/08 @ 18:40
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Damn. I completely understand the reviewer.

I want this - however.

Rental?!
darc
15/09/08 @ 18:49
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Doesn't sound all that bad to me. Not a retail purchase, but probably a casual diversion sooner or later... maybe a rental. Nice graphics, cinematic production, repetetive, easy/ unbalanced, a bit shallow... anybody remember the Darkness? I'd describe it exactly the same way and I enjoyed that plenty.
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darc
15/09/08 @ 18:52
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(Shame about the QTE's, though...)
rubberducko
15/09/08 @ 19:07
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I have to question this reviewers intergrity. I know games like this are normally on top of the witch hunt list but seriously aren't you suppose to review these games with an open mind and professional? I know its not the best game out there but moaning about QTE's because you do not personally like them is not really helping us and also about making the the remark about giving you all the powers then taking them away. Have you never played games like Metroid Prime and such they give you a taster and then take it away making you want it all the more. Also about button bashing are not half the games that consist of fighting button bashing NG 2, DMC 4 (which personally I love) are both in same category. Combos are up to the player to utilise if the player decides not to use them and experiment then really its not the developers fault more the players for being so lazy and not playing the game for all its depth. Never see people moan about how you constantly duck behind cover in gears then rinse and repeat? I know this is a moan but just so tired of games getting reviews and picked on for substance that all games contain yet do not get picked up on because there named GTA, GoW or Halo and so on. I understand this ain't perfect but learn to have more an open mind felt like this was more an opinion then a review. Anyways rant over hehe
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bad09
15/09/08 @ 20:50
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"Stars Wars games are always average, with the exception of Lego Star Wars. "

WHAT?????!!!!!

Rubbish sir! the Battlefront series,the DF/JK series, X-wing/Tie Fighter, Knights Of The Old Republic, Star Wars Arcade, Jedi Power Battles, Ep1 Racer (console and arcade), Old Atari arcade machines (not Jedi!), Masters Of the Teras Kasi (Shut it, I liked it!), Republic Commando, Rogue Squadron and of course Star Wars Chess are all class games!

As for FU, average game but the story seems pretty cool so I may pick it up, the demo wasn't great - but it wasn't terrible either.
NegativeZero
16/09/08 @ 06:57
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@darc: the difference is that The Darkness had a legitimately well-written plot and wasn't relying on the strength of a franchise to sell copies.

This sounds exactly as I expected. Bland, uninspired tech demo with a Star Wars wrapper. If this is the best that Lucasarts can do maybe it's a good thing that they're canning internal development.

One part of me agrees with the people calling for a new TIE Fighter, but the rest of me has nightmares about what Lucasarts would try to do to it.
karstux
16/09/08 @ 07:05
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"And Jedi Academy? Scoff, I love Star Wars and the majority of the games, but come on, that game was on the poor side "

I'll have to disagree on that! I think Jedi Academy is the Star Wars game I replayed the most. What's not to like about full character customization, a perfect Lightsaber combat system with lots of styles to choose from (single saber, dual sabers, staff type saber...) and - most importantly - lots and lots of Sith saber wielders to slice and dice, in various scenic locations? I play it to this day, and it has really aged most gracefully.
Xerx3s
16/09/08 @ 08:17
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I see that lucas arts has considerably improved the quality of their games compare to recent years.
IronCladChicken
16/09/08 @ 09:38
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@pixel1980
I wish that were true man - but up until the mid-ninties StarWars games (& pretty much anything released by LucasFil,s/Arts) was a sure sign of quality.

Then one day they changedmanagement, stated that they would concentrate on consoles and went downhill from there...

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