Star Ocean coming to 360 in June Comments by Ellie Gibson

shame, but I suppose that means it'll come out over the annual summer lull so could actually be ideal timing for me

Any word on how long this exclusive deal will last?

All the Star Ocean fans are waiting on the PS3 platform, someone should tell SE this.

Too late. Been out in the US for months by then.

They are? o_O

Star Ocean is dead to me, SO3 left THAT bad a taste in my mouth, such an awful awful plot twist + ending.

I never finished SO3 because I ended up getting hooked on Halo 2 multiplayer!
I kinda got fed up of it when I reached the place where you can start doing item creation.

and YEAH to imports from the US

All the Star Ocean fans are waiting on the PS3 platform, someone should tell SE this.

Every little thing that you say or do
I`m hung up
I`m tired of waitin` for you
Waiting for your call
Baby night and day
I`m fed up
I`m tired of waiting for you

Time goes by so slowly for those who wait

In other news: 3 new demos on Live.

Wheelman, Wanted and a WWF game.

What a load ... Didnt they already announce it was coming April 24th ????

Is this because of the acquisition of Eidos ? Accoring to Eidos, the deal is mostly going through and and an official press release HERE suggests, Eidos will be fully owned by Square on May 6th.

I presume, they are trying to save costs on publishing in Europe, perhaps by having Eidos publish Star Ocean instead perhaps of somebody else who they would have to strike a deal with.

Eitherway, I am disappointed. I was really looking forward to it :( I guess now I would have to play two JRPGs in the same month. This one and Tales of Vasperia which is presumably arriving here in June too unless Atari changes its mind again.

Bunch of whiners complainig about this being on xbox. Like it would be any better if it was on PS3. SE is just a fraction of the golden Vagrant Story days. I'd rather replay LO again, or Disgaea 3.

"lose their 'actual' fanbase"

where actual fanbase = whiners from the 90's.

The XXI century called!

Well, it did manage to sell an additional 20k 360s for a week in Japan so it's probably not that bad... ;)

One has to wonder though whether it was such a smart move on the part of SE to make a deal with MS (and depending on how much MS paid for it it might have turned out to be a poor deal for them too given that it's rather hard to argue that it has given the 360 a big boost in Japan).

Since lots of the interesting elements such as the item creation and inventing system are gone I don't think this is worth pining over. Taking away features that made the PS2 game stand out leaves you with something decidedly more run of the mill and ordinary.

Demon's Souls looks far more interesting and you can play it now rather than June if you can find an Asian copy, it seems to be sold out currently.

@bmx bandit

Fanboy much? Jeez, 90% of those decisions have noithing to do with MS at all.

As far as I know Dragonquest and all the FF related stuff still sells like gold in JP.

"Sony dragged them back to life ... then they did the almighty backstab and started taking money from Microsoft instead."

If I recall correctly Sony buying a stake wasn't much appreciated by Square, which accelerated the SE merger so that Sony's stake would be diluted. So from a Square perspective it wasn't so much as a backstab. They see it as getting even with Sony who backstabbed them first...

"Honestly, when you step back, the amount of damage they've done to themselves siding with Microsoft is catastrophic ... and the worst part is, unlike most other shitty sales type things, this all actually effects us. Waiting a whole year extra for FF13 because Microsoft paid them off? Unforgivable really. I don’t expect that from ANY developer, let alone bleedin' Square Enix!"

Can't really judge that as we don't know how much MS paid them. Catastrophic is rather strong given that they still release plenty on the DS and Wii that sells better than anything released on 360 and PS3 together ever would.

As for developers taking money, I honestly don't see the problem. They have something of value and another party is willing to pay for it. Just a business decision in the end. It's not like they have the moral obligation to develop something for a specific platform or release a game at a certain date.

wow, wait a minute ban the grey shades! Americans + MS = baddies; SE + Sony + Japan = goodies, don't mess with the mind of a bmx bandit.

From what I've heard, SO on the 360 is running at sub-HD resolutions with no AA...so I hope it's been coded with multiplatform in mind (would be a travesty if that's not the case).

Not that I really care much.

bmxbandit is hilarious.

No, wait, I meant to say he's a pathetic teenager.

Yes, that's it. He's a pathetic teenager.

Grow. Up. You. Stupid. Child.

Just to prove my point you then reply with what has to be the most childish post of the day.

Bravo. Keep up the good work.

Why people get so worked up over a bunch of companies is the biggest mystery of all imo.

Mmh... So that means we'll have to choose between SO4 and tales of vesperia this summer. Which means that in 2010, after the mass effect 2 / FF13 storm, we'll be able to pick a good/great JRPG in the bargain bin for less than 20€. Good news!

"We use the summer solstice on June 21st as the official start of summer"

Using MIDsummer as the START of summer... I really don't understand the logic of a lot of people.

At least the Celts got it right. Spring is February-March-April.

Games runs at sub hd and still has frame rate problem. Pass i think

@bmxbandit

"Wah wah wah, mummy the other console is getting all the games I want and that's not fair and I want my dummy! Wah wah wah!"

Jeez, I sure got the whole 'teenager' thing wrong! Let me help you put those toys back in the pram little child, then I'll go fetch your mother so she can burp you and put you to sleep.

I blame Sony for not making the PS3 cheaper and better to program for so more people would have bought a PS3 by now and SE didn't need to port it to make enough money.

It's really not that black and white. It's business, not the "give bmxbandit his favorite game now" show.

ffs

It's not worth the wait. Seriously, I don't know what happened to Tri-ace but SO4 is pretty poor, pretty much abusing every terrible JRPG cliche imaginable, and then saddling it with an incredibly juvenile plot, graphics that are stuck at the very bottom of the uncanny valley, and an absolutely horrible localisation effort with the most wooden, emotionless voices possible delivering utterly inane dialogue.

Tales of Vesperia is still the best JRPG on the platform by a fair margin.

When does tales of vesperia come out over here? Will the two of them clash?

if this game ever sells millions in europe on ps3 then I'll eat my wii remote

@bmxbandit

"Teehee, yes, I am the child in here.

Forgive me for being pissed at a year delay that affects millions."

Children don't know any better so yes, you are forgiven.

Affects millions, it's not fucking hunger in Africa. Yeah, like we're really starving for games at the moment.:P

Persona 4 hits in 3 weeks, buy that and it will last you a while, better yet Disgaea 3 will last you until FFXIV.

@bmxbandit

Look, you are obviously hurt and lashing out, that's understandable because you feel like you have been betrayed by a corporation.

No, hold on scratch that. It's not understandable at all that you feel you've been betrayed. It's childish and it's pathetic and you really need to get a grip and just take a look at your posts here and see how incredibly sad you sound.

Do yourself a favour and do not post back. You dig yourself in deeper and deeper and make yourself look more and more juvenile and stupid with every word you type.

@menage

Persona 4 is next Friday!

@andy

Fuck, really, too many games too little times. :D

Looking forward to that though.

@menage - totally agree mate, I've got a stack of games I'm trying to get through and now that's coming means I literally don't have enough time at all!

@bmxbandit

There's no comeback to that stream of incoherent rubbish.

Ignored.

@bmxbandit
Forgive me for being pissed at a year delay that affects millions.

What delay are you talking about?

FFXIII again?

Here's a repost of the details I gave you the last time you were slinging this nonsense about. The release dates of the last 6 FF games, always damn near a year later in Europe than in Japan even when they only appeared on Sony consoles. But, hey, I'm sure that this time it would have been different if they weren't bringing it out on the damn evil 360, because you know, you really, really, really want to believe it would have been different.

FF VII JP January 31, 1997 NA September 7, 1997 EU November 17, 1997

FF VIII JP February 11, 1999 NA September 9, 1999 PAL October 27, 1999

FF IX JP July 7, 2000 NA November 14, 2000 EU February 16, 2001

FF X July 19, 2001 NA December 20, 2001 EU May 29, 2002

FF XI PS2 JP May 16, 2002 NA March 23, 2004
FF XI Windows (PC) JP November 7, 2002 NA October 28, 2003 PAL September 17, 2004
FF XI Xbox 360 NA April 18, 2006 JP April 20, 2006 PAL April 20, 2006

FF XII JP March 16, 2006 NA October 31, 2006 PAL February 23, 2007

@sneetch

Don't bother, he's in a trolling mood today, throwing all kinds of toys out the pram.

It seems a little patience is too much to ask of kids these days, but good things come to those who wait. Well, hopefully it will be good!

@ bmx

Not sure if you noticed, but PS3 game sales aren't exactly topping the charts every week. SE can probably afford to lose a few sales in Japan for how many they'll get in the US and Europe. I'm fairly certain if MS did pay them off they made up for lost sales.

Get a 360 if you want to play their games so bad! But stop spouting this rubbish!

I love the HD graphics on this game...

:)

@farticusmaximus
@sneetch

Don't bother, he's in a trolling mood today, throwing all kinds of toys out the pram.

It seems a little patience is too much to ask of kids these days, but good things come to those who wait. Well, hopefully it will be good!

Yeah, when it comes to these boards I'm increasingly feeling more and more like the stereotypical, confused alien from those 80s sci-fi movies: you humans act so strangely, on my world there are no "fanboys", we are creatures of logic and reason. It's a peaceful planet, you'd hate it. ;)

@Rash'

"I love the HD graphics on this game... "

Is that the best you can come up with you trolling idiot?

What about gameplay, eh?

No, you wouldnt care about gameplay as you are a PS3 owner and PS3 games are very light on gameplay.

Why not just say your launching in summer?

??What with all the comments?? Not as if I was logging onto EG just to droll myself amused with all the snides comments, trolling and flamings! They are all part and parcels of the forums we know but heck was hoping to see more comments re the material in question... Star Ocean on 360!

June....still got too many great games on X360...and also Killzone2 and Disagea 3 on PS3 to finish off so that not a problem!!

@ Fart

The gameplay is decent but the best 360 rpg is Tales of Vesperia. This is avoidable in my opinion

@NotSoSlim

What was you opinion on Infinite Undiscovery? Personally I though IU was really superb once you get past the initial forest section.

If Star Ocean is developed by the same team then I'm gonna have to trust them I think, as I sure don't trust the poor reviews that IU received.

@ Fart

I didnt play IU due to poor reviews. However i am not a major 360 fan but i played a bit of this and it was decent nothing great but i love the Tales games so a bit biased lol.

Reviews are all opinions but this day n age frame rate problems on a game that is in some places lower res than wii games(gamezine source) is unfirgivable but it is a fun game so if you liked IU you will love this.

Best RPG from them on 360 imo

@NotSoSlim

"Reviews are all opinions but this day n age frame rate problems on a game that is in some places lower res than wii games(gamezine source) is unfirgivable but it is a fun game so if you liked IU you will love this."

Well the same criticisms were levelled at IU and in my opinion the visuals were miles better than any UE3 powered RPG and I had not one single frame rate hiccup. I strongly suspect the reviewer was running their console in 1080p mode.

Games can look gorgeous in sub-HD resolutions, and HD resolution games can look like pimpled arse. It's not a factor for anybody serious about gameplay, but the statwhores do love to obsess so.

Based on your comments then I'm cautiously optimistic that I could have 2 top notch RPG's for the summer :)

Booo

Europelol

If you liked IU (christ...) then you will probably like SO4 even more since it's very similar but less terrible.

Honestly I was expecting something a bit better produced. They've put so much work into the graphics and animation, but it's been given such a rough localisation that it's like watching an old dubbed kung fu b-movie. All the movements are off, lip sync is nonexistant, characters add emphasis to syllables that don't make sense... it's just really rough. Amateurish.

The actual quality of the vocals themselves aren't any better or worse than most JRPGs, but when everything else is all super-high res at 60fps with highly detailed models and cinematic camera angles and stuff, nothing ruins the sense of immersion better. What immersion the game actually manages to have, that is.

Basically, every criticism leveled at IU will also be leveled at SO4, for the exact same reasons. Terrible localisations have been a hallmark of Tri-ace's work since way back with Valkyrie Profile on PS1, but really this ends up reflecting badly on Squenix as the publisher, not Tri-ace as the developer, since Squenix must have signed off on the localisation and probably had a hand in making it. Constantly pushing dubious-quality JRPGs with terrible english localisation entirely using the strength of your brand's reputation while repeatedly delaying the game everyone actually wants, dangling it like a carrot on a stick, is a sure-fire way for Squenix to destroy the market for these games. And then everyone loses.