Square Enix reveals 360 release dates Comments by Ellie Gibson

It's quite superb that the Xbox platform is getting so many RPGs this generation... it really is! :D

360=RPG box

Who would have thought that the 360 is *the* place to be for JRPGs.

Japan certainly wouldn't have thought so.

And still don't.

360 FTMFW.

"Japan certainly wouldn't have thought so.
And still don't."

I'm sure you are trying to make a point, but I am missing it.

Infinite Undiscovery!?

Thats like naming an FPS "The Forever Non-shooty".

"Who would have thought that the 360 is *the* place to be for JRPGs. "

The 360 is actually *the* place to be for all game categories. No matter wich category you prefer the 360 has a lot of games in that category.

>Japan certainly wouldn't have thought so.

Seems like SE get their sales elsewhere? The DS is the place to make money on RPGs in Japan anyway.

Well if there is any way for MS to sell more 360s in Japan it must be RPGs, but I doubt that PS3/360 still have a chance in Japan. Traditional console gaming seems to be dead there.

>The 360 is actually *the* place to be for all game categories

Yea ok.. but JRPGs is a bit of a surprise ;) 360 already has 5 or more atm and 5 or so coming. Impressive.

Good news!

Wouldn't be crazy if these new JRPGs magically turned around the 360s fortunes in Japan, kind of like Monster Hunter did with the PSP.

It'll never happen of course, but it would be funny.

its quite good that microsoft is trying to push for all these RPGs but i cant help feel they're wasting their time and money the 360 will never sell well in Japan

>they're wasting their time and money the 360 will never sell well in Japan

Maybe these games sell well in Europe and US as well?

Infinite Undiscovery has to go down in history as the most nonsensical name for anything, ever.

Yeah Infinite Undiscovery is a werid name... so you wander around never discovering or getting anywhere for the whole game.
Maybe you just go from one blank white room to another....

man, i can't wait

along with tales of vespaira, and spectral forces 3, i'm in anime rpg heaven!

YET, Japan will never give the console a chance ..... I still applaud MS for trying. I certainly cant ask for a better JRPG line up. Tales of Vasperia, Inifite Undiscovery, Last Remnant and then Star Ocean. Bloody hell, if FF makes it to the 360 - I may never have to buy the PS3

What does Infinite Undiscovery mean? Like neverending voyage of not discovering things? I don't get it.

@Dizzy

possible, but unless its branded with a Final Fantasy logo then JRPGs dont tend to sell that well in the west

Maybe its a next gen version of FFX-2... no discovery because you've already been everywhere in the previous game.

its unfortunate, but xbox will never take of in japan, and that is purely a cultural thing.

if you look at the following line up

Tales of Vesperia
Spectral Forces 3
Infinate Undiscovery
Last Remnant
Star Ocean
Blue Dragon 2 (well, it was big in the land of the rising sun)

Thats a killer line up for any system in the next 12 months, but i doubt it will make a dent.

For me, i don't know how i'm supposed to fit them, along with Age of Conan, and Warhammer online.

Well I'm all for it. I'm still not convinced it will make the console any head way in Japan, but every RPG I've played on the 360, I've throughly enjoyed.

Well I think its a fantastic RPG line-up on paper for the 360.
Personally, some fingers crossed for portage to PC or PS3.

Be interesting to see if Star Ocean 4 is any good. I played the 3rd one for a bit on the PS2, kinda got halfway through and lost the vibe for it.

I see a lot of Sony fans crying over this on internet...
It is a bit ironic that PS2 was JRPG monster last gen and now Xbox has taken the lead.

360isonlyaboutshooters&racersLOL!

Something the original xbox was derided for in droves by anti-xbots.

Fixed for this generation, changes nothing shocker :O..

Ohh well, i look forward to playing them anyway.

Also, lets not forget that these announcements ALL COME FROM A MICROSOFT PRESS EVENT. So don't expect there to be any word about Sony or Nintendo product unless it can't be helped!

@Arbiter

Let's not forget that your comments all come from a Sony-centric mindset. If these JRPGs were listed for PS3 (Last Remnant is due later on PS3 - a problem the xbox had with PS2 getting games much sooner), you would be touting "see how diverse the PS3 game library is, my friend" :)

>Wouldn't be crazy if these new JRPGs magically turned around the 360s fortunes in Japan

They would need DQ for that ;)

DQ is DS exclusive ofc now.

star ocean 4 is listed as a ps3 release on other sites so i guess thats multiplatform aswell, and where they hell is versus 13 already!

Great news but give me Lost Odyssey 2 over any of these titles. I lost faith in SE after FFXII, sad but true.

This stuff all looks great, but I can't see it changing the 360's fortunes in Japan.

Not least because the two biggest hitters - Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy - are going to Nintendo and Sony platforms respectively.

I wish ms would think a bit more about generating new hardcore IP's. Now that Halo is out of the way, they should take the time to launch some new FPS IP's ffs.

@Xerx3s
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not... Aren't there too many FPS IPs right now? I get confused with all the Brothers in Arms/Battlefield/CoD/Frontlines/etc...

Is that not Gears of War ?

I think the 360 will take off when they make a mini one next year.

Not to turn this into a fanboy war but the PS3 has an equally impressive (if not moreso) list of upcoming JRPGs so claiming the 360 is "the place to be" for JRPGs is a little premature.

@turambar

great, you've just openend up a fanboy portal

@Turambar

The PS3 doesn't have any JRPGs at present though, so for now, the 360 is definitely the place to be for said genre. In a few years time, that may change, or maybe it wont...

@Gradius

Well there is Enchanted Arms out on PS3 but you make a good point, there isn't a lot of JRPGs out yet for PS3.

Ere you go, more on it:

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/880/8...

so a bit coy on yes/no for Star Ocean on the PS3, then again I doubt shouting about it surfacing on another platform at an event like would have gone done rather well.

"star ocean 4 is listed as a ps3 release on other sites so i guess thats multiplatform aswell, and where they hell is versus 13 already!"

Actually tri-Ace said that their game will be exclusive on one console...

But, but I thought the 360 only did Shooters and Racers, this little line up makes no sense, it must be lies, LIES!!!!
And after reading Arbiter's many freak outs in the MGS4 comments section, I'm not really sure he should be telling anyone else to grow up.

No, they actually said

"Asked if the game is 360-only, he said, "We cannot announce anything on that. We can say that it will be released first [on the Xbox 360]. Whether we'll release it on the PS3 is undecided. We may release it, we may not.""

@des

probably a timed exclusive, SE would be silly to make it an exclusive knowing that its not gonna sell very well in japan cause noone has a 360 over there, and as mentioned before only FF and DQ sell in the west

Wow. Star Ocean on 360? Score! The last one managed to keep my interest through all of it's squillion hours, so I'm looking forward to this!

"And that, is a "problem" when it comes to predictinhg future growth - by appealing so strongly to a relatively niche market MS are arguably ghetto-izsing the 360"

I think most people will see that MS is working VERY hard to widen the software lineup of the 360. TBH it has one of the best software selections ever for such a young console. Every time some game comes to the 360 people are shouting "MS BOUGHT IT" (as if that is a bad thing). 360 has great games and is expanding every day into different types of software. The fact that the PS3 and 360 are fighting hard has been a good thing for gamers (and especially 360 owners). And to be truly a wide range console you need the "niche" products as well (like these JRPGs arguably). BTW a lot of the "succes" of the software lineup for 360 is not due to money hats but due to easy dev tools and very good dev support. Most of the devs I know have a 360 at home to play. Devs love the machine and MS is quietly laying a solid base for a long console future with many new generations to come (dev support).

"probably a timed exclusive, SE would be silly to make it an exclusive knowing that its not gonna sell very well in japan cause noone has a 360 over there, and as mentioned before only FF and DQ sell in the west"

Probability has nothing to do with it,PS3 is also on life-support in Japan,if they cared about sales in Japan Wii would be their target console.As for FF you are not going to see it until PS3 reaches 5-6 million in Japan,Square does not gamble,DQ is proof for that.

Great news! Star ocean 3 is a great RPG, even if the story is quite a mess.

>You judge future opportunity based on past performance

Err.. yes and no ofc.

PS1 had no official chance against the others remember?

Also the 360 is already a pretty good success for MS. They do not need to reach that 100M landmark. They have gained almost all the devs and will probably reach 50M by the end of the cycle, breaking the dominance of Sony and largely increasing their share. Of course Sony and MS will have Nintendo to deal with next generation ;) since the Wii looks like the 100M boy this time.

Anyway.. the brilliant games selection on the 360 is a requirement for MS to gain market share. They have no Wiimote or Bluray so they are fighting it on software quality, online features and price (and dropped the ball on reliability sadly for them). So it is very logical that they are grabbing as many games as possible. I am a bit surprised that they haven't bought some of the big devs yet... maybe the games market is not *that* important to them anyway ;)

Lastly, one of the strongest features of the 360 is its software library which is NO DOUBT better than Ps3's right now (which isn't to say that the PS3 has a poor softwware library - its actually pretty good and improving all the time) . However, most of its big marquee titles (up to now) do not appeal to a mainstream buyer, there's a major lack of casual/family-orientated products and a surfeit of hardcore gamer orientated fare.

And that, is a "problem" when it comes to predictinhg future growth - by appealing so strongly to a relatively niche market MS are arguably ghetto-izsing the 360. And until they rectify this, Analysts will favor the broader (if arguably shallower) portfolios of Sony and Nintendo.

Getting worked up about there being no casual games on the 360 is like getting worked up that the latest V8 off-roader isn't "environmentally green" i.e. the people who buy them couldn't give a fuck, while those who do care about it should buy something else. I don't care if the granny down the road is convinced to buy a 360 because it's got MS Wii Sports or not as it doesn't affect me and what I like to play in the slightest.

The 360 has by far the best exclusives in its genres, and better versions of multi-format releases too, and since these are the genres that are important to me, that's all that matters. When I want to play Nintendogs or Cooking Mama I'll give the relevant Nintendo-badged console a spin.

@des

isnt releasing jrpgs on 360 a gamble? i think so