Soulcalibur IV demo on Xbox Live Comments by Robert Purchese
Yoda well to at least try the game.
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Der_tolle_Emil
22/08/08 @ 10:38
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Very nice. I hope the AI really isn't as shit as many people say because I rarely play online.
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I hope the blurb there about the game being balanced was sarcasm, I really do. SC4 is one of the least balanced fighters I've ever played... still damn fun, though.
@ Der_tolle_Emil - no, the AI isnt too bad. Its far better than the I most online players use, who tend to repeatedly spam the same moves with Cervantes, Raphael or Siegfried... you know who you are. |
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Zero Punctuation doesn't like it but then he never does like anything.
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Der_tolle_Emil
22/08/08 @ 10:45
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I heard that about the move spamming as well but I don't know a single (beat'em up) game where this isn't the case. Although there might be much more in this game than in others.
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^Smash Bros. You keep doing the same move and your opponent will laugh and annihilate you.
Although that kinda sits in its own subgenre with games like Powerstone. SF2 Turbo you couldn't get away with spamming the same move I guess. Incidentally, I loooved Soul Calibur 2 and spent ages figuring out the characters and combos... Until my housemate played me and could complete mop the floor with me by using the same move over and over or just mashing the buttons. Since then I decided that this style of fighter is inherrently flawed and hated them ever since. |
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Der_tolle_Emil
22/08/08 @ 11:24
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@berelain: Of course they lose if they just spam the same thing over and over again but even if you win it's still a boring match :)
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Der_tolle_Emil
22/08/08 @ 11:48
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Sorry if I wasn't more clear earlier :) Too bad to hear you can win by spamming the same moves over and over again. But I don't really plan to play this competitively so a few quick bashes against the CPU every now and then are more than fine and maybe online against a few friends so it should be fine.
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seamonsterneil
22/08/08 @ 12:59
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Not a fighter fan and i was new to the series with sc4... i dont know about anyone else but i have found the game to be incredibly balanced... everybodies horrible spam moves have a counter that is easy to perform... cervantes/siegfried etc are easily taken down by staying close to them...spammers only really have a chance with distance.
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Jesus all this moaning about button mashers and spammers.
They may take the fisrt round off me but after that I just fucking kill them. Sometimes its great coming up against spammers and mashers its all about the versatility of woever you are facing. Everyones different. I'm a countermove defensive player and I must win 8/10 games I play online on SC:IV. |
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SeesThroughAll
23/08/08 @ 12:49
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I was going to buy this game until I realized that Namco is going to charge people an extra to unlock "the other character" when both versions already have both on disc.
Greedy sods. |
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How nice that some of you state something like "you get away with spamming one move", even if it is not true.
I have been following all fighting games since the mid-90's, and move-spamming can be always punished in the better half of these games. In Soul Calibur IV, you do a just impact to the spammer, get the initiative, and win in the next 8 seconds after doings so. Or let me introduce you the little thing called "recovery". Spam the attack, and a good enemy exploits the hole between your spammed attacks. Or GI it, or sidestep. Or jump up, and hit you with a rising attack. Soul Calibur IV IS balanced. If you get mashed by move-spammers online, that proves only that you are yet to learn Soul Calibur IV's fighting system. |
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@Oldern
It's not that it's hard to overcome spammers, it's that it's boring. I levelled up only to rank 20 because 95% of my matches were against Kilik or Cervantes spammers. It was easy enough to beat them after you know their moves, but it's never fun. Player matches and especially player matches against friends are far more fun. The only reason to play ranked is to get the achievement, after that it's simply not worth the boredom. |
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Aysir: It is boring, but it is not the game's fault.
There is no fighting game out there which gives you joy sweets when you kill a button spammer. And I found ranked matches frustrating too, because of what you just said: looks like everyone has a custom Kilik prepared for 3-or-below connection matches : ) But after all, if you know some good players, and play in a non-ranked room, it is one of the best fighting experiences out there. So I defended the game, because it is not its fault that many players like to play the cheap way. |
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Online is broken.
I went online with my "main" character, and got my record to something crap like 42 wins 40 defeats. Since then I've decided to play Amy, and spam 3 moves over and over, and now my record is up to 100 wins and 53 defeats. That's absolutely ridiculous, to get such a high record with no skill whatsoever. Broken. |
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