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Sony's David Reeves Comments by Ellie Gibson

30 January, 2009

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floppylobster
30/01/09 @ 15:48
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That was brutal. We've come a long way when someone can show that amount of disrespect to Sony and get away with it.

So in in a 10 year life cycle I would expect 1-2 years to get established. 3-4 of peak production, maybe 1 final golden year, then a 3-5 year slow drawn out death (like the PS2). So we're in the peak right now?
marronthered
30/01/09 @ 15:49
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that blonde has got lovely boobies
sneetch
30/01/09 @ 15:49
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I like Ellie's interviews, her Paxman-like dogged repetition or rewording of evaded questions is good. :)

@Les
Good interview. Nice to see a gaming industry executive not acting like an adolescent twat for a change.

Indeed, a rare level of maturity shown there, sly dig at RROD aside.

I don't quite buy his "keeping the price high during the recession will be a good thing" idea, Sony know that people facing into an uncertain economic future will be less likely to buy a PS3 than a Xbox or Wii for significantly less, only time will tell whether or not those people number enough to significantly hurt the PS3 as a platform.

I really wish MS would drop the live charges as again and again I see it used as a stick to beat them with. It's a barrier to entry for many people and I dare say it's cost them more in games sales and goodwill than it has ever made them.
gabsta69
30/01/09 @ 15:49
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I still dont see it being value for money in the UK. With the recession they could do with knocking the cost down by 50-100 gbp, I think the confidence of the public with the playstation brand will be restored.

I am an xbox 360 owner and I have absolutely no confidence in the machine lasting until the xbox 720 is released, whereas my friends, playstation 3.....no problems of course. I think its all about confidence.
kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 15:55
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"That was brutal. We've come a long way when someone can show that amount of disrespect to Sony and get away with it."

What is this, a religion? Get a grip.
Rash'
30/01/09 @ 15:56
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Xerx3s and kangaroo, this is the last i'll say on this: i appreciate the 360 may have served you well but when you guys start defending the RROD it just makes you look like fanboys which i know isn't the case. i'm not disputing measures have been taken to lessen the fault but what the system needs is a complete redesign. It is faulty by design and therefore is, in its current state, a liability.
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Mr-Bozzey
30/01/09 @ 15:58
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i think the whole idea is if sony are doing tough things like keeping there machine price high and not lowering it then there need to be tough questions for it and ellie showed that today.

sony have there own fish to fry by the sounds of it

they set out dates for themselfs as a company

i kinda relised this sony have set dates like 10 million units now thats not aimed to beat MS or nintendo in console sales thats aimed to keep sony up and going,every aim and objective they set is for sony to expand the company and for the " greater good" of sony.

this shows in some in the interveiws while ms are wavering facts and stats and adding comments " more than ps3 " sony are using stuff like " well we sold so many units and thats what we expected and needed for sony"

haha hope ya get my drift...
kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 16:01
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@sneetch and gabsta69

I think he was suggesting that not dropping the price yet is good for Sony. Its all very well talking about how we the gamers would like £50-100 off the price of the console, but we have to remember that they are a business and they have to make wise decisions.

This how many millions of PS3 are sold, and then multiply that by your £50-100. That is a hell of a wodge of dosh to spend over a few months. Given the current state of the economy, it seems reasonable that a company want to manage its books a little more carefully.

Of course dropping the price would expand the installed base, but the cost of doing so is an investment which would take time to recoup. Perhaps now is simply not the time to risk making that investment?
floppylobster
30/01/09 @ 16:02
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"What is this, a religion? Get a grip."

That's what it used to be like. Sony would completely control their interviews and just refuse to accept certain questions. They don't have that power these days.
GamesConnoisseur
30/01/09 @ 16:02
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David Reeves: I'm not going to comment on that. I simply don't know what their plans are. I'm not going to be as arrogant as to comment on either Nintendo or Xbox 360.

Eurogamer: Do you think what Kaz Hirai said was arrogant?

David Reeves: I don't think so. He was probably misquoted, because I don't think Kaz would say that.


But but but....Kaz did say that?! However, Reeves did come across as a more grounded guy and an interesting interview! More like this please. And no I dont think it was outright hostile, I mean in the UK Mr Paxman is well known for asking hard questions and trying to get straight answer.

We gamers deserved straight answer but wished asked more on European front, especially what happening with PSN?!
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sneetch
30/01/09 @ 16:03
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@floppylobster
That was brutal. We've come a long way when someone can show that amount of disrespect to Sony and get away with it.

Ellie showed "disrespect" to Sony? Outrageous! Rest assured, sir, that she won't "get away" with it! We'll have her flogged at once.

Jesus mate, this is the twenty-first century, the time when people would tug their forelock and mumble into their chest just because someone wore a nicer suit than them is long gone: there were some tough but pertinent questions and in no way disrespectful.

Edit: ah, pardon me, you weren't suggesting that she should have shown "respect" and "deference" to him. My bad.
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kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 16:06
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@Rash'

What is wrong with your eyes? Let me write it again for you.

The initial failure rate WAS unacceptable.
The current failure rate is NOW much reduced.

Did you see the bit where I said it was unacceptable? I'm not defending anything, I'm stating two independant facts. Two independant facts which you would prefer to squash into one big ball that you can load into your fanboy cannon.

I deal in facts and I don't give a shit about your petty fanboy nonsense. Did you also see the comment in this thread where I poked fun at the initial fail rate being 60%, or did your fanboy goggles filter that out for you.

I own both a PS3 and a 360. They both have their strengths and their weaknesses. I just call it as I see it because I am old enough not to have some other bonkers agenda. I know its hard to realise from there inside your head, but some people simply don't care about that "taking sides" stuff.


"i'm not disputing measures have been taken to lessen the fault but what the system needs is a complete redesign. It is faulty design."

What on earth do you actually know about industrial design? The RROD occurred because of a single design flaw, which by now is well documented. What else would you suggest is wrong with the XB360?


Clearly it winds me up a bit when fanboys suggests I could ever be as mad as they are.
Widge
30/01/09 @ 16:07
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The current failure rate is NOW much reduced.

Is it now acceptable?
kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 16:07
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@floppylobster

Ah, I didn't quite understand your comment. Sorry dude, I was a bit snappy with you there. Some of the other comments have clearly got me a touch annoyed. Apologies :)
Oscarpiggy
30/01/09 @ 16:09
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he should just admit that the ps3 and psp is not doing well
floppylobster
30/01/09 @ 16:12
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@ kangarootoo / @ sneetch
No worries. I edited out "The 90s must be truly over" at the last second. That probably would have made my intention more clear.
farticusmaximus
30/01/09 @ 16:12
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@Rash

"i'm not disputing measures have been taken to lessen the fault but what the system needs is a complete redesign. It is faulty design and therefore is, in its current state, a liability."

It. Doesnt. Matter.

It really doesnt matter. If the 360 keeps providing the great gaming it will continue selling as it is right now. RROD has been around for years. It's now no longer an issue for new units but that's irrelevant.

It's still selling.

Like it or loathe it that is the only fact that matters.

Xerx3s
30/01/09 @ 16:17
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"Thats exactly how that interview came across to me. "

Not hostile enough for me. I fucking hate these PR muppet interviews that really say nothing because the muppet just spins everything and the interviewer doesn't put pressure on him. Those interviews are a waste of time and effort. At least this tries to go somewhere.
Rash'
30/01/09 @ 16:17
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Widge, that's the million dollar question that's conspicuously lacking a response.
Psychotext
30/01/09 @ 16:17
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"I used to be a contender"
miiiguel
30/01/09 @ 16:18
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"Could Eurogamer be anymore hostile !!! Wow "
Oh, come on... these guys do not need for us to defend them when comes to PR, it's their job. If it's pity is disrespectul, if it's religion it's weird.

Good interview, and the dude did good as well, imo. The lights thing was odd, but... expected.


kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 16:20
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@Widge

As I understand it, yes it is acceptable. I didn't think any of the new systems were suffering RRODs. If they are, I'm happy to educate myself (but I could use a link, rather than someone just telling me so).
Rash'
30/01/09 @ 16:20
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Farty, Some things are as guaranteed as the passing of day, like that response. Bless you.

:)
kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 16:21
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@Rash'

"Widge, that's the million dollar question that's conspicuously lacking a response."

If that is a reference to the question I just answered..... seriously dude. Some of us have other things to do than pore over these pages 24/7. I'll try to do better in future, ok? ;)
kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 16:22
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@Rash'

The fact you might agree with farticus about something tells a thousand stories.
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30/01/09 @ 16:25
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Kaz Hirai-we lead
Reeves-we are second

Ship is sinking very fast,only loonies are still abroad.
mingster
30/01/09 @ 16:25
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But what about the Sony 'Traffic light of death'?
Everyone ignores this, how many PS3's are affected by it?
Eighthours
30/01/09 @ 16:29
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Also unemployment has rocketed in Spain, and to some extent in Italy. The demand was not there. Not just for us - for Nintendo or Microsoft, it's exactly the same.

Now, going into the remaining rounds and the next seven years, we are going to be very strong. The last few weeks have shown we are clearly number two in the market. I'm as confident as I was before.


I hate to say this, but he's being a massive liar here.
gyak
30/01/09 @ 16:30
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Dear Sony,

How about a Hungarian PS Store, or just allow Hungarians to pay for your s**t??
Sony just lost the plot this gen (not that the competition would be any better). When you don't allow WHOLE countries to pay for your things then you're either plain stupid or just don't care anymore.

FYI: Hungarian people don't have a PS Store PLUS they're not allowed to buy from any other regions from Sony.

There's even a little sticker on your console in Hungary which informs you about the situation. And we're supposed to be Europeans.
Rash'
30/01/09 @ 16:31
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kangaroo, Wow completely missed your rant directed at me. relax. i didn't say you are a fanboy (and distinctly said i know that not to be the case). i tell you what, i would appreciate it if you educated me with your knowledge as clearly you know something i don't about all this. is that fair?
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kaya08
30/01/09 @ 16:34
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Its fair enough to be harsh to an interviewee who bring along his PR babysitter and doesn't answer a single question he's asked isn't it.
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ronuds
30/01/09 @ 16:34
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If he represents Sony's views, then I'm sorry to say but their head is buried pretty far in the sand. Guys like Kaz and Ken, you always knew were out in space, but Reeve's seems to more represent Sony as a whole.

Reeve's did a good job for the most part, though. Not cuntish at all! :D
SAH1977
30/01/09 @ 16:47
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You have to admit, after all the stick Sony have taken, the PS3 now looks an extremely attractive proposition with great exclusives and price cuts imminent. The 360 has had a good run, but looks to be running out of steam ever so slightly.
miiiguel
30/01/09 @ 16:52
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"The 360 has had a good run, but looks to be running out of steam ever so slightly. "
Last year, in the beggining of I read the same thing. Was it you ?
drumbaby
30/01/09 @ 16:59
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but we've got RROD expensive online, and no Blu-Ray.................
but we've got RROD expensive online, and no Blu-Ray.................
but we've got RROD expensive online, and no Blu-Ray.................
but we've got RROD expensive online, and no Blu-Ray.................
but we've got RROD expensive online, and no Blu-Ray.................

There, 5 times should make it true.

Obli
30/01/09 @ 17:04
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Hello Eurogamer!

Nice interview but I wish some questions were asked, such as:

+ Are you aware of the SCEE Equality Appeal? http://www.sceeea.com
+ What is happening about an EU Official Blog? Are we going to get one? If not, why not? Why is communication with the SCEE customers lacking?
+ What is being done to reduce the delays the SCEE region stores suffer compared with the US and Japan?
+ Why aren't you looking at the prices of retailers and matching them for downloadable content?
+ What is going on with Super Streetfighter 2 Turbo HD Remix?
+ Why are you holding back English titles released in the US when they could be released simultaneously?
+ What exactly do you do?
SniperZoz
30/01/09 @ 17:06
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Some interesting points in the interview ... some good answers.... but some really bad ones ... overall I think the Sony execs. are out of phase with reality ... or they want us to think they are!?!?
Toadie48
30/01/09 @ 17:07
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@SAH1977
"The 360 has had a good run, but looks to be running out of steam ever so slightly. "

I think you'll find your wrong, with Halo 3 ODST, Allan Wake, Bioshock 2, romours of Xbox live price cut, rumours of Killer Instinct on XBLA, this is gonna be another great year for Xbox owners!!!

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/946/9...
Toadie48
30/01/09 @ 17:09
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@farticusmaximus

"It. Doesnt. Matter.

It really doesnt matter. If the 360 keeps providing the great gaming it will continue selling as it is right now. RROD has been around for years. It's now no longer an issue for new units but that's irrelevant.

It's still selling.

Like it or loathe it that is the only fact that matters."

+1, nicely said ;)
kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 17:10
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@Rash'

Shit.

You've done the ol' switcharoo on me now.

/has a think

It was this bit that set me off.

"this is the last i'll say on this: i appreciate the 360 may have served you well but when you guys start defending the RROD it just makes you look like fanboys which i know isn't the case. i'm not disputing measures have been taken to lessen the fault but what the system needs is a complete redesign. It is faulty by design and therefore is, in its current state, a liability."

Curses, I didn't actually see the bit at the end of the first sentence where you said "which i know isn't the case". The red mist had obviously come down by then. Regardless, what got my goat and caused the misting was the suggestion that I would "defend" any company on the basis of anything other than fact and reason.

I made the distinction between the reliability of the 360 as it used to be, and the way it is now. To try and have that labelled as me "defending RRODs" just ticked me off.

Life is full of shaes of grey. The 360 reliability WAS bobbins, now its not so bad. The console has SOME design issues (hw and sw), but the entire platform is not faulty by design and there is certainly no rational reason to give it a "complete redesign".

This continued and blinkered "with us or against us" attitude that pervades gaming as a hobby is just depressing, because it is the most base of human attributes. Putting up walls, forming teams, and flinging poo at the "opposing side". The same basic human need to find an enemy that we see here is the same attitude that gets people killed elsewhere in the world.

Whenever anyone suggests that I myself would get involved in such things, I get pretty ratty, as you can tell. Don't get me wrong, I love a good discussion. And debate between opposing points of view is the reason I am even here. But I like to think I am never too big to be corrected, because in my heart I will only argue for something I believe is correct. If I find out it isn't correct, I will change my view and consider myself educated.

When people selectively ignore the facts that contradict their (for some reason) heart felt view, I find it hard to be civil with them. There is just something inexplicable about people getting so attached to a point of view, that they will shout down anything that disagrees with it. Where does the fear come from? What is wrong with just going "ah, didn't realise that, fair enough" and changing opinion?

Blah blah blah, etc :)
kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 17:11
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Christ, what is going on today?!? I have farticus on ignore, but now someone has quoted him.... I actually agree with his last comment about RRODs not mattering anymore. Its the end of days!
xXBrombeerXx
30/01/09 @ 17:12
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"But there are people who come in having done their research, thinking, 'PS3 has got all the games, it's free to go online, it's got a Blu-ray player. I know I'm not going to have to ring up the customer careline saying I've got three red lights.'"

Excuse me, but my PS3 died THREE times you arrogant twat (a couple of questions earlier he said he wouldn't comment on the other consoles as to not be seen arrogant, but..errr..what was that comment then?). At least Microsoft has a customer careline who brought me my console back in one week (my OWN console, not a refurbished like your company does). Yours took TWO MONTHS to arrive after a lot of calls on my side and arrogancy on the other side. Your free online component is shite to say at the least, Blu-ray playback is beyond bad when you have seen a REAL Blu-Ray player at work and what are the games? Just Killzone, which does not the 'other' shooter can for more than two years now? The 360 wins on all accounts in my book. PS3 is a joke and you know it. But since you're just as arrogant as Hirai and the rest of Sony's managment, you will remain in Third Place. You made your own prophecy, fool.
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30/01/09 @ 17:13
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I think Mr Reeves came across as a bit of a cock, out of his depth even.

Good questions though Ellie.
Goodfella
30/01/09 @ 17:15
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I think you'll find your wrong, with Halo 3 ODST, Allan Wake, Bioshock 2, romours of Xbox live price cut, rumours of Killer Instinct on XBLA, this is gonna be another great year for Xbox owners!!!

So another great year based on 3 games, one of them an unknown quantity, and a couple of rumours?
kangarootoo
30/01/09 @ 17:15
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@Nick_

/sigh

With all that bluster you could have blown up a handful balloons and maybe had change for a round or two of blow football.

Was it really worth it? Was it?
moggsy
30/01/09 @ 17:19
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Here's Ellie's MS boss interview for those who missed it. Just as tough a line of questioning I think you'll agree.
MrScruffier
30/01/09 @ 17:20
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If you buy the download version of a game, you're not paying for the production of a disc, box or manual, nor are there any retailer overheads. Shouldn't you be getting it cheaper?

"You could argue the same with iTunes. You don't have to get in your car and go out, queue up at the store, buy it and come back. You can just download it, and there it is. That's what children do all the time. If we have to think boxed products, I think we're dinosaurs."

What does this even mean? It sounds like something Sarah Palin would say
miiiguel
30/01/09 @ 17:20
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"That's the beauty of the review. They were trying to catch him out, but he did great and just made the interviewer look cheap and inexperienced. Priceless. "

Lol, you must have a picture of the guy in your wallet. There's this aura of religion within some PS3'ers which is amazing.
mikeck
30/01/09 @ 17:23
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@ Obli - why would they ask those questions, it's a small vocal group that keep on and on about these points, and I think most people aren't that bothered to be honest. I know I'm not, I've got loads of great games for my PS3 and will happily keep playing them, and it's very rare that I'll download games from the PSN Store, and whilst I appreciate the store, it's not the reason I got my PS3.

Same with my 360, hardly use the marketplace and care very little about it.
Toadie48
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@Nick_

Wow! Take a look at this right Here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/micros... and stop being a pathetic Sony fanboy - that'll complain about anyone just saying the name Playstation with a slight critique in their tone.

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