Sony's David Reeves Comments by Ellie Gibson

If they really do have another 7 years in the PS3 (which I kind of hope they do) they'll make the money in the end.

If the Xbox 3 comes out in the next 2-3 years, the PS3 is going to be the cheaper option for a number of years and by that time BluRay is probably going to be pushing 50% sales of digital disks.

Who knows: maybe they will get the last laugh.

I know I don't want to part with mine.

Someone can probably answer me this:
At the beginning of 2008 was MS announcing all kinds of game titles or was it just like now?

Also, I know exactly what one of the three console companies need to do to basically 'break the market'. Make a simple console MMO game and start rumours just before release claiming "it is just like WoW!". This will not only shift game copies but also shift consoles. The game wouldn't even need to be good - so basically same as WoW >:D

On the RROD issue. I don't see Teh Internets(tm) set ablaze with that issue - so MS is doing it right even if the issue still exists on the new Jasper machines.
And to the one who told me to ask my local store about failure rates - I can't. They won't give anyone the numbers and they would probably lie in any case. You see, my country doesn't have an MS Entertainment section in their MS offices. In fact, the MS offices here only serve companies, there is no service for individuals. Heck, the MS offices are just a division out MS Denmark.
Sony, however, is quite big here. For example, PSP has outsold the DS here probably somewhere between 2:1 and 3:1. Yes. Playstation even outsells Nintendo. We should probably rename our country to Playstationland and make it one big theme park.

Wow, a Sony spokesman who seems less stupid than stupid. Of course he was evasive at times but I didn't feel insulted just by reading what he has to tell. This is a first.

"I can see the visual gap between sonys first party games and everything else getting wider this year."

lol, wide"er" - saying that there's already a gap? Maybe "less wide" is the better term?

"At the beginning of 2008 was MS announcing all kinds of game titles or was it just like now?"

Normally MS announces their games closer to release than Sony. Gears 2 was announced something like 5 months before being released.

Free PS3 online but it's crap compared to Xbox Live

Can we have a cull of PS3 and Xbox360 fanboys please, not least because they actually have a negative effect on the image of both machines, imagine if you were a new adopter trying to find out new information about your console, or one you were interested in, and came across all this stupidity?

@bad09 having new Pysgnosis era games would be great, no need for the insults mind, and besides Sony Liverpool have said they wish to do something else than Wipeout in an interview, so you never know, also the forthcoming No Gravity for the PSP might appeal to fans of Colony Wars, I'm certainly interested in the title.

Personally I think the interview would've been better off asking less about sales and more about European first and second party development and questions more about what Sony Europe are offering consumers, while touching on issues such as quality of service. Sales figures are of little interest to most sensible gamers...what the need for profitability (especially with a strong yen and weakening sterling) mean for creating new opportunities, skills gap, getting European gamers into making games, and funding new development is of interest to most gamers.

Honestly I'm getting a little tired of the fanboy bait of the site that encourages the morons on all sides to come out and have an online bicker, please leave the commercial aspects of sales figures and margins to gameindustry.biz and focus on the creative aspects of managing a entertainment company. Pretty please?

"@bad09 having new Pysgnosis era games would be great, no need for the insults mind, and besides Sony Liverpool have said they wish to do something else than Wipeout in an interview, so you never know, also the forthcoming No Gravity for the PSP might appeal to fans of Colony Wars, I'm certainly interested in the title. "

Vertical Stand gives bad09 hope again, the tiniest of hopes not seen in years that one day...one...day...bad09 thanks him for it :)

oh, and it wasn't THAT insulting....

/ looks down kicks the floor sheepishly

"I like the fact that Sony gain exclusives by good relations rather than cash. unlike some other company. "

Funny how GTA4's ended exclusivity contradicts this bullshit. Your fanboy company isn't a fucking saint; none of them are.

Fantastic interview - even made him comment against his own people and go against what he said.

I have to admit though, the guy impressed me a lot - and I've more respect for Sony now after reading that. (Not neccessarily the PS3 though :P)

'Good interview although I cannot remember Eurogamer ever giving Microsoft such a grilling.' - MS don't give the interviewers room to grill them tbh.

@bad09 if it was nasty I wouldn't have replied so all good, besides I sometimes do the same (FF13 trailer making me recoil) and then wish I had taken a second and toned it down, but yeah I do hope we see more UK and European focused development, especially with the PSN service with somewhat lower production values than AAA games to account for the smaller cultish following of the games. If that did happen, hope part of that being some PS1 era franchises are brought back. With G-Police and Colony Wars, presuming they were to be revived, I hope they go back to the originals, as the sequels gradually got away from the parts I enjoyed most of all about those games.

But for the ultimate pipedream and in a way the most viable franchise to bring back, an online PSN version of Destruction Derby would be great, based more around the first and second games in the series, pure speculation on my part but perhaps Evolution could offer some input with the tech they built up with Motorstorm - online bowl mode *drools.

Yeah, that was a good read.

And I must say, I'm impressed with the Sony responses. And what they are doing. Being financially responsible rather than just going for quantity.

@ Vertical Stand

Ah well done mate you reminded me I've still got to pick DD up off PSN! \o/

Why was the head of SCEE asked a load of questions about the USA on a site called EUROgamer?

He gave reasonably good answers when possible, she tried to give him a grillin' but he done alright.

What amazes me is that people continually rhyme on about the sales lead the 360 has, in 2 years the PS3 has sold 20m while in 3 the 360 sold 28m. So if the average continues the ps3 will have sold 30m in 3 years. Thinkin the EPICFAILSONYLOL is slightly overdone to be honest. It hasn't set the world alight like expected but neither has the 360 even with the price cuts.

"Also unemployment has rocketed in Spain, and to some extent in Italy. The demand was not there. Not just for us - for Nintendo or Microsoft, it's exactly the same. "

I'm afraid this BS about Spain & Italy (does the gaming spend of these countries combined get anywhere near the UK or Germany??) kinda set the tone for this interview.

He sounds like a guy under real pressure; very evasive and a little narky too. Can't blame him though, there's not much going right at Sony Towers and it must be real tough there. I don't agree with the "it was too tough an interview" vibe that others seem to have picked up on - if not much is going right in the uber wide breadth of Sony's world then any decent interview is going to sound harsh, it's just reflecting reality - the big S is struggling, severely ... One thing's for sure - when a top exec flatly refuses to comment on what another top exec has said then there's trouble ahead ...

Oh and yes, the comment about Game/Home was excruciating ...

Last point: Give it a rest about a PS3 price cut will you FFS? They haven't cut the price because they are *desperate* for cash in the short-term, i.e. *now*. A decent (£50 tops) price cut will come within a month of the end of the KZ2 sales spike ...

Right, this is an interesting one.

It's no lie that Microsoft and Nintendo are winning the console game by a far cry...
Sony are trying to cover up huge mistakes in the form of stuff such as Home which games such as The Getaway were canned for...BIG mistake.

Truth is in my humble opinion Sony made a huge mistake in the direction of the PS3.
The online gaming on the console is flawed I do not care what anyone says that is a truth.
Compared the PC/X360 platform its limited and flawed also there are not enough guidelines issued to guide companies. This can sometimes be a good thing but for the likes of most games this causes confusion and hiccups that cause failures.

Personally, in this generation I favoured the X360 for it's ease of use...However it's also no lie that I have become utterly furious about the failures. In 12 months I had 6 X360's due to various failures.
4 of which were actually Optical disc drive faults not ring of death.
The 5th was a Ring of Death however not a full one, I suffered a power cut and it caused a surge in the console and a hard reset fixed this however knowing the X360's history I took it back to the shop yet again and had it replaced.

Nintendo are also still suffering failures on a HUGE scale but this is not really reported on.
Again in the optical drive department.

I've never had a PS3 failure...Why?
Because I don't use it, not many games that interest me. Drakes Fortune and Little Big Planet which are CONSOLE making games and of course singstar for parties and whatnot.

Now the problem is thus.
PS3 suffers a weak online platform when compared to PC/X360 and so does the Wii suffer the same misfortune as the Japanese manufacturers seem to of favoured the single player market which again BIG mistake as the future of online gaming is in fact online. Something that Sony actually denied in one interview.

Phil Harrison also disagreed with sonys decision whilst he was under their employment.

Now again this is just my humble opinion but the PS3 does NOT in ANY way shape or form have a lifespan of 10 years...
Not if they keep releasing drivel and junk like Home and MGS4 proved that the console has another design flaw which is a absolute 100% failure in my books.

Mandatory installs, this sort of thing is ONLY and I repeat ONLY acceptable in PC games consumers should not be made to UPGRADE console hardware...
Why not release a dedicated PC with PS3 hardware that is upgradable and runs multiple OS's in a full manner and not the half-baked Linux with 3/4 of the hardware locked out?

Also as a point sony have also stated that one of the reasons their consoles have been so successful in the past is the ease in which it's been "chippable" which they later retracted and claimed misquotation.

They later stated that they have extra protection on the PS3 to prevent this...Which thankfully is the case.

Overall the PS3 is/was and will always be a failure in this generation of the console era in (again) my humble opinion, with a focus on single player games shifted suddenly onto home for untold years with no great outcome when focus could of been on truly great games...

And before all the "Fanboy" crap starts.

I was a fan of the PSX and the PS2 big time in those eras of the consoles...But mainly was a PC gamer as I enjoyed customization of games and mods.
I moved to X360 when hardware requirements went OTT and it became unaffordable.

So this is not fanboy speak but more...Critical Business Reviewing...

I thought he did well but the holes in his logic were pretty obvious at times. Nice guy, but he's in the gaming equivalent job of the Iraqi Information Minister, Comical Ali.

I think Sony's major problem is that they are historically pretty poor at reading a market, and responding to it. That's not to say they never get it right, they do from time to time - but let's be honest, for every Sony success story there are several impressive failures.

Instead of recognising that the games market was reaching critical mass and trying to broaden the appeal of the device, they just made it more niche in the hope that they'd convert every PS1 and PS2 owner into a sale. Instead of coming up with something to appeal to a fresh market (like Nintendo) - they bet the farm on a marginal 'hi-def' upgrade, and they didn't restrict this strategy to the gaming division.

They nearly missed the Hi Def boat (and are still playing catch up on LCD) - and I think they over-reacted to this near miss. Throwing money at strategic manufacturing partnerships with Samsung and now Sharp, snapping up OLED long before anyone else thought it could be viable, and bolting on HDMI ports to as many devices as they can (even ones which don't even support native HD) and it's looking like some kind of panic strategy to convince everyone they need Hi-Def and they need it now. Meanwhile in their home market they haven't managed to convince the lion's share of punters to upgrade their VHS recorders to SD-DVD players.

They bet far too much, on too thin a proposition. They're doing extremely well to ride it out as well as they have. It's all about saving face and staying in business right now, that's why they're too scared to drop prices and are instead creating 'value propositions'.

And, yeah, elitist. Consoles are mainly for playing games.

Yes, Cellphones are mainly for making calls. Computers are mainly for calculating spread sheets. TVs are mainly for watching cable TV...People who use TV sets for playing games or computers for watching cable TV or cellphones to organize their schedules are fucking elitists.

The only time the elitist rule shall not apply is when outspoken Xbots post in PS3-related discussion threads.

what a slippery fucker.
(not that im comparing him to any angelic figures on the competitor side - I own all three consoles atm)

When faced with a difficult question he stonewalled it with 'No Comment'.
All in all to be expected in fairness.

But the facts are that to enjoy the features of a PS3 you need a HD tv to play it on. otherwise what's the fucking point of owning a Blue Ray player? its not like you can play your old PS2 games on it. well i cant... thx Mr Sony. I'll never finish Shadow of the collosus now since my aged PS2 is bricked. Cunts. /cry

I enjoy my PS3 when I have excuse to use it. But its a luxury item... at a time where people are keen to trim costs the xbox is just plain better value.

im sick of sony execs trying to defend their untenable position on the shitty price point.
They deserve a bloody nose this generation. same as they gave Ninty when they launched the PS1 and caught them with their pants around their ankles.
Hopefully they will wise up and bounce back like Nintendo have.

lol Zedfragg, lol.

At one point I feel sorry for you, at another I just think it must suck so hard to be you.

The PS3 rules and everyone should just admit it. That simple!

Sad to see that the deluded fanboy mind can even turn a comments section on a pretty decent interview into the next flame war... The parallels between fanboys and religious people are stunning.

Haha.

1 word: DENIAL.

Also, some total idiot said that in 2-3 years blu-ray will account for 50% of disk sales? Lay off the LSD.

What's happened is GAMERS are finally starting to realise that if they can only have 1 console, the 360 is by far and away the best option.

I might be the only one to say it here, but I can't be the only one mildly enjoying watching Sony's failure. They were arrogant and ignorant for nearly 10 fucking years, as far as I'm concerned they are just getting what they deserve.

not sure he's telling the truth in that last sentence.

"What's happened is GAMERS are finally starting to realise that if they can only have 1 console, the 360 is by far and away the best option."

See I don't see it like that...my 360 has sat unused for about 2 months, my PS3 however has been on pretty much every day (or every other day) in that same timeline. I love both consoles, but barely touch the 360 now. The game line-up this year for PS3 in my eyes (you can say they are blinkered if you wish) is much better.

Sorry but anyone claiming he has heard people walking into GAME and asking for a PS3 because HOME is on it .. his words are worthless ... Bottom line is Sony are victims of a) the recession , I used to own a PS3 , it's a far better built machine than the 360 , quieter and has blu ray / wifi built in blahdy blah but too expensive .. and b) their own arrogance .. the interviews with this drone and especially Kaz Hirai last week are scary in terms of how deluded they are ... they have gone from the most successful console in history to struggling against a newcomers second effort and losing comprehensively to the last gens 3rd place company .. ( please no one claim " oh nintendo are not competitors " ... we are in a global recession , most people are not buying 2 consoles .. most rightly or wrongly are going either with Wii or 360.

Is this man actually existing in the same dimension as the rest of us?

Aw. For about 90% of that I can't help but think he's a tosser and then there's the bits where he struggles with allegories and it becomes adorable.

Bottom line is... He agrees that PS3 IS expensive even if it's a matter of production costs, that they do NOT have money to spend for exclusives, that Home isn't even close to being ready and yet they ALSO make so much money already out of something so useless and unfinished atm...

Conclusion: I don't give a crap about MS nor Sony but i do give a fuck when I see everyone focused saying about MS wanting monopoly and everyone's money when Sony is empting wallets for a console and a Home that's not worth jack shit atm simply cause ppl still go buy it even if it's too expensive. Yeah, if i had a product and all the morrons go buy it at a high price and make me rich still OFC I'd keep selling it expensive. What he says is< as long as they still can back up their pricing point and keep selling they will drain as much money as they can cause they plan on fedding u on PS3s for the next 8 yeas. So either stop paying for that shit so they drop the fucking price or keep getting analy fucked.

Cheers

I really think David Reeves is a sympathic chap... but all he did in this interview (decent questions EG!) all he did was evasive action.

David Reeves logs on.

"Nice lady, that Ellie. Though she did give me a grilling. All the same, thought I discharged myself admirably under the circumstances. Stiff upper lip and all that.

Better check on the comments thread. See how it flew with the B1 and C2s.

What’s this? Bit of a cock? Slippery fucker? Cunting twat?"

* tightens fist *

"Those UNGRATEFUL FUCKING HERBERTS!"

I wanted to see more questions about SCEE and what is changing:

the PSN Store - delays, what is being done, where are PSN pre-pay cards, are we getting an official blog or being integrated with the US Blog?

Also, visit the SCEE Equality Appeal and sign the petition! :) http://www.sceeea.com

Eurogamer: Have you had your first meeting about PlayStation 4 yet?

David Reeves: I have never even heard it mentioned. I think people are concentrating so much on what's happening now that they're not even thinking about it.

Charlie Demerjian of The INQUIRER is claiming an exclusive that Sony have chosen Intel's Larrabee for the GPU for PS4, and it's likely the entire architecture will be x86 (makes sense if the GPU is a bunch of little x86 processors).

So much for "teh power" of the Cell, and no meetings on PS4. Also looks like launch of 2012 is in order for PS4 and Xbox3.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news...

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