Sony's David Reeves Comments by Ellie Gibson

"So another great year based on 3 games, one of them an unknown quantity, and a couple of rumours? "
I'd say I expect another great year based on the previous two years. Like... it did happen. It's real.

@MrScruffier

I think he is agreeing with the interviewer, that games SHOULD be cheaper if you download them, jsut as songs are cheaper on iTunes. And he sees digital distribution as the future, and boxes as being on their way out.



I don't even know who said this...
"That's the beauty of the review. They were trying to catch him out, but he did great and just made the interviewer look cheap and inexperienced. Priceless"

But that is just weird. Get a room ffs.

This thread fails.

@xXBrombeerXx
"Excuse me, but my PS3 died THREE times you arrogant twat..."

Surely considering that you've had 7 360s, wouldn't that still make it the better option?

Actually no don't answer that I'm fairly certain what your response will be...

@Zuljin: No, because I have 40+ 360 games and 3 PS3 games (barely worth buying anyway). I use my 360 about 4 hours a day for the last three years and my PS3 3 hours a month for the last two years (for internet browsing mainly. Which is an arse anyway, but I can't be bothered to go upstairs to the PC. Although I should. It's faster). You do the maths which is the more reliable one.

Plus my son of 5 plays the 360 and that isn't very much expanding it's lifetime too. The PS3 he wouldn't even touch. It looks too scary I think (or he's afraid of leaving fingerprints, so daddy can see he's been on the internet).

kangaroo, i admire your honesty. i try not to be too pig-headed with my views so i can listen to reason and logic. i accept that maybe the system isn't completely flawed, and maybe that the fault has lessened, but after 2 or 3 unsuccessful revisions can you really blame anyone for being sceptical? you say the problem is now acceptable. i genuinely what to know what makes you so adamant of that. you say you're concerned with facts so you must have good reason... No?

Sorry, Brombeer but the facts are that the PS3 is a far more reliable piece of hardware overall, it's well within acceptable fail rate percentages. Just unfortunate you had problems with it.

No, it's unfortunate that I had to wait two months for my refurbished kit to arrive, because I had a launchmodel which aren't produced anymore. But they HAD to deliver me one, according to Dutch law. It's unfortunate I didn't tape the phone conversations as to how FRIENDLY Sony's customer care is!

You can't please all the people all the time, it's simply not possible..

@xXBrombeerXx
Well, lets put in the original figures that you touted back when you were on your old handle, of 12 failed 360s.

Seriously dude, your ps3 has not broken three times from three games, just like back then your 360 had not broken 12 times from however many games you claimed back then. You're rapidly making a name for yourself alongside Farticus/Apologie.

@Miiiguel: Can you blame their aura? They worked paper routes for two years only to find they have an inferior but more expensive game system which lakes..errr...quality games! The 'other' one is a third of it's price and wins hands down every time a multi-plat game is realeased. I would create an aura and remain in denial, wouldn't you?

EG has set the interview benchmark, now every interview with execs should be equally tough. It will be interesting to see how MS and Nintendo execs handle it.

Oh..I can show you the e-mails and RMA numbers if you want. Call Sony's 'customer care' service and check these numbers. You have my blessings...

Edit: You see, the first refurbished kit they sent me wasn't even fixed yet. Their bad. The second gave it's life after 5 days of heating my room to 25 degress Celsius: They didn't reconnect the fan, as it turned out later. The third had the blu-ray lens burned syndrome, which is now being examined in Dutch consumer programme Radar, as this seems to be rather a common problem with the launchmodels...

@xXBrombeerXx

You don't keep your PS3, or Xbox 360, near a massive subwoofer or speakers do you? I've already seen a few people with lots of failed consoles in a row who keep their consoles next a hugely magnetic device that's just bound to kill them in time! Otherwise, that really is a rather incredulous number of fails, for either console.

Lacks quality games? Oh please, still using that one are we. Sure, that knee jerk response was fine 18 months ago but it's a bit different now. I'm not going to list them but there are plenty of quality PS3 games. Maybe not to your particular taste but they do exist.

Also, how on earth is the 360 a third of the price?

granddad brombeer is back in the house :)

how's it going ?

@xXBrombeerXx
You're already taking things out of context. Congrats.

@Goodfella: During Christmas season you could get an arcade for 129 Euro in Holland. PS3 was still 400 Euro, so almost a third...

Typical Eurogamer, go after Sony with a rabid dog. Handle Nintendo with mittens, handle MS with puppy dogs. We all know you hate Sony. Why don't you tell the readers how MS gave you free Xbox live accounts and goody bags with the Halo 3 review?. You give games like Fable 2 10/10, then mark down Little Big Planet to 9/10 even though you admit its your GOTY and better than Fable 2.

The stench of MS money hats is to strong around these parts, and they way you grab ankles when interviewing Nintendo is disgusting. You don't ask them any hard questions about their shitty line up for Wii in 2008.

Basically you suck and are a puupet of MS and Nintendo, you used to treat Sony with a bit of respect, I guess MS payed you a lot of money to turn into ignorant fucktards whenever the word Sony is mentioned.

And yet the E3 2005 headline for Sony's PS3 conference was "The Real Next Gen". There's no bias.

p3owner: Great, thanks! It's my Birthday Sunday!

So, during Christmas you could get the supremely inferior arcade console for ALMOST a third of the price of a PS3?

That is a genius argument right there.

excellent, you should buy yourself another Ps3, Killzone 2 bundle, even out the numbers. btw, re-reading the post under this thread. looks to me as though you've had 2 ps3, since the sony support center wasn't able to fix them properly. That is a bit shit, no question about it. My blu ray diod broke as well, send it it, got it back 2 days later. still under warranty. fingers crossed it won't happen again though :)

@MasterNameless: No I don't. I wish it were the case, but I just had very bad luck with repairs on the PS3, like I said earlier. The Xboxes, well, all but two RROD. But I was blessed with a new Jesper Elite, which runs like a train and doesn't even get warm. So I guess that problem is finally solved.

@Rash'

"you say the problem is now acceptable. i genuinely what to know what makes you so adamant of that."

I don't mean we can forget past ills, or pretend they didn't happen. I am just saying that if (as I am led to believe) the mass scale RROD issue is a thing of the past, then that is the current state of play. I am not saying it was acceptable at the time, but I AM saying that pretty much everyone who buys a 360 today will find it RROD free in the months or years to come and THAT is acceptable.

I am sensing some element of forgiveness (or the lack thereof) is part of the equation here. That perhaps the fact the RROD issue was so bad in the early days, we should continue to dislike the 360 on that basis. I don't tend to care about that sort of thing when it comes to electronic goods.

I am on my 3rd 360 now, but the current one has been fine for ages and I don't forsee any issues. Yes it was a pain in the butt when I had to drive back to PC World yet again to get it swapped over, but I don't hold that against it now. Its just plastic and metal, it doesn't deserve any ill feeling from me so as it run games realiably (which currently, it does).

Of course, all of my commentary is based on the belief that the RROD system is not an issue for new 360s as it was a year or so ago. If that belief is wrong then by all means point me to a source.

@ps3owner: No thank you. I have GoW2 and Halo 3. I have the best shooters already. Why would I want a game which does exactely the same thing AGAIN?

"So, during Christmas you could get the supremely inferior arcade console for ALMOST a third of the price of a PS3?"

Supremely inferior just because it's missing an HDD? Still plays the same games, innit?

Is this Eurogamer or USgamer? All the talk of NPD and nothing of our market?
Well done Eurogamer.

Go Ellie, Go Eliie, Go Ellie, Go! Go! Go!

/does a desk dance

@Goodfella: Yes, there was a money refund marketing during the Christmas season where you could get 30( arcade)/40(pro) or 50 Elite) Euro back via Microsoft. It was a HUGE success. You see, Microsoft does some good (and understandable) marketing. Even there Sony is hazy like it's on XTC or something. Third place, my arse.

Yeah, that 256mb memory card you get with it is all you need.

but brombeer, killzone 2 and Resistance 2 cover the full spectrum as we all know by now :) (+ the COD series is MP anyhow).

@Goodfella: Still the supremely inferior Arcade handles multi-plat games better than the the supremely expensive PS3...go figure...

@ps3owner: You didn't think Resistance 2 was brilliant, didn't you?! It's like reading a Tina after having played GoW...

"Still the supremely inferior Arcade handles multi-plat games better than the the supremely expensive PS3...go figure... " which is mostly down to the fact that the Xbox is the lead platform for the MP games, difficult to port sadly.

"Yeah, that 256mb memory card you get with it is all you need."

For some people, certainly.

Stop being such a elitist. Before the 360/PS3, there were no HDD's or downloading entire games to HDD's or any of that. And, guess what, we were still able to enjoy playing games! Yeah, it's nice to have the extras, but MOST CERTAINLY isn't necessary. Most of these extras are for everything but playing games.

You're coming off as a bit of an arrogant tit. Sorry...

But it's time I start picking on other people than Sony zealots. Have a nice weekend you all!

I certainly prefered Resistance 1, that's true. But I currently just play COD4 online all the time, good laugh :)

enjoy your B-Day

Indeed. Multi platform games are generally better on the 360. Ports will always be inferior on the PS3. Burnout proved that with the PS3 version being superior.

You're coming off as a bit of an arrogant tit. Sorry...

The verbal abuse begins, last bastion of hope for people with no argument.

Elitest? *laughs*

Good interview. Didn't really addresses the things I want to know though.

1. You could have asked why Sony are still forcing me to pay more money for a working PS2 (it will be my 4th PS2 Mr Sony) thanks the them screwing late adopters of PS3?

2. When are poor Europe getting the Video store, will it be this year as promised or will they pull a Sony?

3. Is there any chance Sony might stop the Karaoke B/S and get back on The Getaway?

4. G-Police and Colony Wars where are they? Been missing for nearly two gens you muppet Reeves!

Ask him these when you see him next please Ellie!

Another slice of PR pie. It just gets more and more boring listening to all these guys talk. Very rarely do they answer the question asked. I would like to see Eurogamer be much tougher with their questioning.

kangaroo, it seems neither of us can offer the other a credible source to back up their claim. I therefore remain rooted in my scepticism, a suspicion reinforced by the number of failed attempts to resolve the problem.

Legend, a guy that doesn't suck at PR

" I'm not going to comment on that. I simply don't know what their plans are. I'm not going to be as arrogant as to comment on either Nintendo or Xbox 360."

"The verbal abuse begins, last bastion of hope for people with no argument.

Elitest? *laughs*"

Verbal abuse? Hardly. I normally don't insult people, but those who seem to be acting purposefully ignorant. I also don't see how mine was a non-argument, as there's really nothing about it you can argue with. The Arcade is a perfectly capable console for those looking to play games. The Wii doesn't have a bunch of fancy bells and whistles and look at how many people are enjoying that. So, what is your point already - and please justify it with something more quantifiable than "ARCADELOL" because it's not working, nor is it very convincing.

And, yeah, elitist. Consoles are mainly for playing games. You're coming across like if they don't do as much as a fully-capable media machine then they're worthless. Well, that's an elitist attitude and one that before this generation didn't exist.

I don't have a problem with the consoles, it's the people who attempt to compare them all and think this is some sort of war. Who the fuck cares if the arcade is a third of the price of the PS3, we may as well argue why a Ford Focus is a third of the price of a Jag.

See, I agree with the car comparisons in relation to the Wii and PS3/360 - because it plays different types of games and is aimed at different types of players (for the most part).

Not so sure the same can be said of an arcade 360 to a PS3, though. They play the same games! A Ford Focus and Jaguar certainly don't have the same engines - an arcade and PS3 do. One just doesn't have leather seats, but for a small upgrade price, you can get those too. :)

Jesus, that wasn't a comparison, it was a rough example of the juvenile arguments over consoles. One you seem happy to perpetuate.

But you started the juvenile argument.

You're making my head spin with your double talk and I gladly retract from this conversation. O_o

Sony have taken the opposite route to microsoft,M$ hands cash over to third party studios to secure exclusives they have had mixed results with that so far.
Gta lost and damned looks intresting but all the rubbish jrpgs that square made have been shite.
Sony are focused on their own studios heavy rain,killzone2,uncharted2,the agency,god of war3,mag,gt5 and infamous.
There is no doubt about it the ps3 by far has the strongest line up of games this year it just comes down to if you can afford one.
I can see the visual gap between sonys first party games and everything else getting wider this year.
Not to mention team ico new game which is going to be shown at E3.

@niteninja :
Come on mate, just say it, we know you want it: "This is the..." :D