Sony US slags off rival consoles Comments by Ellie Gibson

Somebody has been on the SingStar too much over Xmas.

I'm not sure you can be counted lucky if you are ever in the position where you think buying 3 xboxes is a good idea.

I agree with all that they've said, but disagree with the smug tone in which they've said it.

"Sony have admitted in the past they didnt include a HD cable because other companies can produce them far cheaper with the exact same quality."

Kinda like what other companies do for all sorts of other electronics?

As usual, I think it's bollocks.

They forgot to mention that on the Wii and 360 you have to pay an extra £30-40 every time you want a new game whereas this isn't a problem with the PS3 because there aren't any games!

Sorry couldn't resist.

Good Lord! If only I'd seen this sooner. I'll be selling my Wii and Xbox immediately. PlayStation here I come!

Drop the price or shut up sony!

I don't know why everyone finds this cock-size comparing between MS and Sony irritating or childish, I find it bloody hilarious! I want these press releases to keep coming, I've found this whole "rabid fanboy" mentality that has come about since this generation of consoles highly amusing.

And without this kind of info coming through, there's no fuel for our favourite fanboy commenters. Actually, here's an idea, EG, next to the 'Ignore Poster" link, can we have a "Batshit Insane Poster" link, which collates all of the day's most inane rantings into an easy-to-read (and easy-to-laugh) format, please?

"The PS3 is the perfect example of a product featuring superior technology and a sophisticated design of a Sandwich toaster creating an ideal all-in-one entertainment & Kitchen product."

I fail to see why anyone cares! Perhaps we should forward the links to all the 360/ps3 face-offs conducted on this site to the bod at Sony who dared to do his job by belittling a competitor? It doesn't happen often in the UK, but, in marketing campaigns across the pond in the US, "slagging off" competition is par for the course...only folk on MS retainers would be offended and rise to the bait...

Maybe he'd change his stance and say the real "burden on your wallet" is buying games that are glitchy, tearing, 560p masquerading as 720p, lazy port, po' cuzn versions of the 360 real McCoy...

My Elite (with BC, HDMI cable) plus all accessories is cheaper than a stripped PS3 without BC. Plus the games and online services are better. Yes, I do own both consoles. The PS3 gets used as an internet browser plus the occasional exclusive game. Let's see...oh, I have 3 PS3 games and...38 Xbox 360 games. Right!

But it's proven constantly that the Xenon toasts a better slice of bread than the Cell which regularly shows signs of irregular burnning patterns on bread, some bread not being toasted enough and lesser coverage of bread being toasted overall.

Why is EG so xbox biased? It doesn't even make sense.
Anyway you have to admit they have a point; online gaming, internet services and blue-ray player straight out of the box (don't agree with the Wii statement though).

And as far as i'm aware, neither console comes with a HD cable right? Which is ridiculous of course.

Well sony must be right they are outselling everyone and are the market leader ;-)

How embarrasing ehrn a company preaches they are the best value but customer say actually i dont need bluray, wireless etc why should i pay for them..we the answer is they dont

@wanderingkid: "And as far as i'm aware, neither console comes with a HD cable right? Which is ridiculous of course."

You are mistaken.

Wendelius

fuuuuucking hell this article reminds me of why Sony are cunts! My ps3 has been an absolute rip off, cunts

Can't Microsoft just release a Blu Ray player and get this over with? I'd want one..

@ HuggyAtHome

"enjoy the best that each has to offer whilst growing slowly paler and more introverted through lack of exercise/sunlight/social life. ;-) "

I oughta punch you on the noggin for saying that! But I can't go outside because I burn too easily, and all of my strength resides in my thumbs now.

Instead, I shall have to be satsified with posting rude and libellous comments about you on various forums, safe in the knowledge that Internet-gifted anonymity will protect me :-)

"And as far as i'm aware, neither console comes with a HD cable right?"

If that's true then I feel blessed, as I got one in my Xbox box so it must have either been a gift from God (old testament God, not the new fangled lightweight god), or someone at the console boxing plant has a crush on me.

I prefer the God theory. I'm a devout athiest, but I'd like him to be real so I can physically point at him and laugh then tell him how he doesn't exists and he will then have a little cry. It'll be okay though, we'll make up and probably go for a beer or maybe catch a movie.

He still won't exist though. Even if he does, which he won't.

"Can't Microsoft just release a Blu Ray player and get this over with? I'd want one.. "

Not I. I bought the Sony 350 from amazon for nearly the same price as the old HD DVD add-on for the 360 at release. It's got more output options than the PS3 or the 360 and consumes much less power. Now that cheap players are here, I'd recommend keeping your console and home theatre set-up separate. Not all your eggs in one basket and all that...

Wendelius

Sony Desperate?! I think not. It's doing super at the current price.
It was only yesterday, that MSFT were begging them to drop the price; only failing to realized that their boxes are a little short of tech! Great response, I think.

"And here is the best one. To get digital audio output and use a HDMI at the same time, you have to buy a fucking special MS cable! That cost me another £20!"

Factually incorrect. You really should check the contents of your box before wasting your money.

@evilfoxhound
"Thunderbolt!, yes I did need a 120GB HDD.

I wanted to install all my games to get rid of that jet-engine noise.

Do you know what's worse? The data transfer cable that came with the 120HDD isn't compatable with the 60GB HDD. I then had to buy a £30 memory card to transfer my saves over!

Then I payed £45 for a gold account.

And here is the best one. To get digital audio output and use a HDMI at the same time, you have to buy a fucking special MS cable! That cost me another £20!

Already that's £95 on top of the price of a pro 360. It's a joke. It's a rediculous price, especially for a console that does not even have a web browser or BR playback."

So you wanted a 120 GB hard drive to install and cut down on the noise but you didn't need it as you already had a 60 GB one. ;)

Most (if not all) of that is included in the Elite package with the exception of the hard disk transfer cable (which worked fine for a friend of mine here at work, you have to use the USB port at the back of the console). The timing was just unlucky, if you'd bought it to begin with you would have saved a fortune. I know, that's not a lot of use when the Elite came out a year or two after launch but one of my friends traded in his old 360 for an Elite (for the HDMI) and got it for relatively little. They even transferred his HD for him. I think it was GAME or Gamestop.

How much did your PS3's hard-drive cost you? (I could be mad, but I seem to recall you saying you put a monster HD into your PS3).

@ J1GSAW: "why waste money with a seperate blu ray player if you have a ps3? just a waste "

I agree. But I don't have a PS3. I thought about it but went for the stand-alone Blu Ray to complement my 360 (partially for the reasons mentioned above. Mainly cost but also outputs, power consumption, multiregion DVD playback,, ...). My answer was mainly to the "360 should have Blu Ray playback" comment. It would suffer from the same limitations as the PS3. So, for me, it's better to keep separates for gaming and Blu Ray playback. But you are obviously right if one already has a PS3!

Wendelius

This is the gaming equivalent of those tedious "Gerrard backs Liverpool for the title" articles you see every year.

Of course he fucking does. It's not news. News would be "Gerrard calls Liverpool fans a bunch of thieving Scouse no-marks".

Yet more evidence that Sony still has its head so far up its own arse they can't see the wood for the trees. Instead of wasting time on pointless press releases such as this one would it not be a better idea to focus on:

1. Creating some decent games

2. Securing some new console exclusives rather than letting the opposition lure them all away

3. Dropping the complete mess that is Home from the drawing board all together

4. Making a dam profit!

The don't seem to understand that consumers want choice. Not everyone wants blu-ray/wi-fi/hard drives/second life clones. Yes PS2 was and still is VERY sucessful. It made Sony the king. But it's fast becoming the past. And you can't live off past glory for ever. The king can be pushed off his throne. They will get left behind if they are not careful...

@evilfoxhound

I paid £70 for my 120gb HDD, and I've never, ever paid more than £30 for Live.

It helps to shop around.

oh i do wish these PR people woud shut the hell up.

why are the sdf defending a twatish statement here? own more thanone console and you no longer have to defend the fuck out of this rubbish.

"Sony Desperate?! I think not. It's doing super at the current price.
It was only yesterday, that MSFT were begging them to drop the price; only failing to realized that their boxes are a little short of tech! Great response, I think. "

being outsold is doing great?

lol

@ evil
"All my 360's sound like fucking vacum-cleaners when a disc is spinning. I really can't tollerate it and NEEDED to install my games to enjoy pleying them."

I'm not saying you wouldn't want to or shouldn't install all of your games to the HDD (although I don't really buy the "jet engine" excuse on a newer 360 model, but that's beside the point). But what's the need to install them ALL AT ONCE? You could, ya know, install a few, play them, delete it, install another, etc., etc. It's called space management. And with the 60gb, you can install quite a few at a time. Instead, you're going to have a bunch of games installed to your HDD that you probably rarely play, if at all.

It sounds to me like the 120gb was more gravy for you than anything else, in which case complaining about the price comes off as a little ridiculous.

Xerx3s, lol. well they had to respond didn't they after yesterday's bull crap from ms. either way as i said yesterday all this soap opera drama is bull crap. fun at times but still disposable info. nice try with "eating my own words", but ms have been the more vocal of the two devils this gen.

"but ms have been the more vocal of the two devils this gen."

Lately I'd tend to agree. Overall, though? HELLLLL NO! Sony talked so much trash from the start that dump trucks were making deposits at their headquarters. It's been mostly in the last year or so that MS has been the kings of sling.

Being a PS3 owner I'm grateful for not paying Network subscriptions however I see this as a disadvantage because there are some PS2 games that I would still like to play - Timesplitters 2 & 3, Burnout etc that all the servers have closed down and this is due to Sony being greedy buggers and not thinking about the consumers.

LMAO i love how all the MS kids are getting dead annoyed at sony 1st little insulting commen

t. something that MS have been doing for years now with low blow comments and soon as you get 1 back at ya your start to whine like little babys !


fair play to sony

as for you MS kids well .... dont dish out what you can't eat yourselfs

rofl unicorn meat hahahahahaha

"When your console costs £300 to make and you sell it for £300 and you sell 20 million units in two years. That's great. "

Fixed.

"When your console costs £300 and you sell 20 million units in two years. That's great.
"

awesome when you were at 40 million by the same stage last gen yeah.

some can't see that the great brand has actually gone backwards can they?

"t. something that MS have been doing for years now with low blow comments and soon as you get 1 back at ya your start to whine like little babys !
"

Sony haven't been doingit for years have they? yes the have, and they deserve the flack they get. They did it to do down the Dreamcast and they tried to do it to do down the 360 and failed.

As petty as this is, i helped my mum get a 360 for Christmas (for her husband)and once you get into looking at it M$ advertising is very sneaky, always advertising the cheapest console. There will be many gamers (and parents) who won't realise there is more to come. The arcade is a waste of time with M$ banging on about xbox live you need a hard drive. M$ should stick it all in one console. A next generation console without wireless, that disappointed me the most about my 360. Selling add ons to make up for the savings you made on the machine is naughty especially as virtually all the M$ ads show games that require a hard drive and Xbox live to get the most out of it.

HDMI, HDD due to mandatory installs, the whole controller once the battery dies, the whole controller for rumble for all of your loyal early adopters, a headset so you can talk to yourself online...

...then you'll need a 360 as well - to play the best games being released. That's one hell of a required upgrade.

/runs

"The MS force is out in full swing today O.o.

I guess when you can only afford one console....

(Yes, I went there) "

good point.. why don't Sony mention the need cost of a PS2 if you want to play PS2 games? they forgot that bit.

no wonder so few buy a PS3 and stick to 360 where you only need one console (and yes. i do own all three consoles but can't stand this crap from Sony).

@evilfoxhound

"When your console costs £300 and you sell 20 million units in two years. That's great."

Not when each of those 20 million consoles costs up to £400+ to manufacture it's not!

Why are the 360 fanboys slagging off the really quite minor point that the PS3 doesn't come with a HDMI cable? I would argue that this enables the consumer to choose the quality of their cable, perhaps based on the quality of their TV.

C'mon children, you can do better than that.

Rash': If that's what you believe. Be a gent and use a napkin though.

So 360 is more expensive than PS3(according to Sony),but on the other hand 360 is outselling PS3 2:1,so hmm

Sony is clearly running out out of spin-ideas,cut-pasting 2006 articles.

The so called "value" always had a personal note,try to sell an air conditioner to penguins on Antarctica next,Sony...

"good point.. why don't Sony mention the need cost of a PS2 if you want to play PS2 games? they forgot that bit."

LOL that made me laugh!

It is true, but MS are no angels in the B/C lies either "yes, yes every Xbox will eventually be B/C on 360...honest". Still at least quite a few work on 360.

/ glares at Sony and their most idiotic decision ever with the PS brand (well that and cancelling The Getaway 3)
/ also glares at MS because his MGS2: Substance sits dusty and unloved on his shelf.

"Why are the 360 fanboys slagging off the really quite minor point that the PS3 doesn't come with a HDMI cable?"

I think mostly because one of Sony's biggest selling points for the PS3 is that it's an HD console - yet you can't play it in HD resolution unless you buy something extra.

@ evil

"The only ridiculous thing here is tha fact that a 300GB HDD for the PS3 costs £40 and a 120GB HDD for the 360 costs £100.
I'll stand by that opinion no matter what people say."

Very convenient of you to choose 5 words of a 200 word statement to reply to. Talk about "out of context"!

Anyhow, nobody's arguing that to buy an HDD separately for the 360 it won't cost you more than it should. What we were arguing was the fact that you were complaining about doing so, even though you really had no need to.

It is nice that you can get a 300gb for so cheap for the PS3, but I think the fact that only 1 in 10000 people actually need to do so invalidates the point a bit. I'm talking about mainstream here - not about the 1% of gaming nerds who have to have the best and most of everything.

"It is nice that you can get a 300gb for so cheap for the PS3, but I think the fact that only 1 in 10000 people actually need to do so invalidates the point a bit. I'm talking about mainstream here - not about the 1% of gaming nerds who have to have the best and most of everything."

Actually when the movie/music store hits even joe average will need a bigger HDD on his PS3 for all the stuff he can own. Probably why Sony are selling that 160gb model.

pfft.

marketers, they're as bad as politicians.

you can't believe a single word that comes out of their mouths...