Sony sued over PS3 firmware update

By Ellie Gibson Published 6 November, 2009

Angry gamers take legal action.

A pair of gamers who claim their PS3s were bricked by recent firmware updates have filed a lawsuit against Sony.

As reported by Gamespot the plaintiffs, who live in the US, claim the 3.0 and 3.01 updates mucked up their consoles, causing loss of controller use, Blu-ray drive malfunction and general bricking. Sony customer service types denied the problems were related to the updates, and said a fee of $150 would be required in order to fix the PS3s.

"Defendant's unlawful, unfair, and fraudulent business practices include, but are not limited to, misrepresentations regarding the fitness of the PS3 and software updates, failing to disclose defects in the system and software updates, and refusing to repair PS3 systems free of charge," alleges the lawsuit.

The plaintiffs want the suit to be awarded class-action status, which means it would refer to every PS3 owner who installed one of the relevant firmware updates. They're arguing for unspecified damages and restitution.

Sony has yet to comment on the matter.

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  • KayJay #1 2 years ago

    Is Judge Judy going to be hearing this?

  • GamerG #2 2 years ago

    Good for them, it was this kind of mooted action that eventually got Microsoft to pony up for their 3 year RROD warrenty

    Hopefully this will make Sony sort the YROD mess out and pay back the money the £150 repair bills they have been forcing gamers sometimes multiple times.
    Edited by 1 at 06/11/09 @ 09:54

  • Widge #3 2 years ago

    as far as I know, the PS3 HDD contents are encrypted so you can't pull anything off them

  • superdelphinus #4 2 years ago

    0.5% chance of winning

  • Darren #5 2 years ago

    I know it's just coincidence but my own 2.5 year old launch PS3 died shortly after installing the v3.01 firmware. I actually installed it two weeks before but didn't really use my PS3 much until I loaded up Unreal Tournament III. Five minutes later the screen went blank, there was a beep and my PS3 was displaying all the symptoms of the infamous Yellow Light of Death. It was repaired by TCR under a GAMEcare policy but lasted just eight more days before developing the same issue again. TCR really are great!!! I'm now awaiting a voucher or cheque from the insurance company as TCR have deemed it irreparable (well done!).

    In the meantime, I bought myself a 250 GB HDD PS3 Slim with Uncharted 2 and Fight Night Round 4 but I'm going to miss my launch PS3. I'm already finding two USB ports limiting (since I used two for an external backup HDD I always kept connected on my old machine) and the PS2 emulation has obviously gone. Sucks that I was forced to buy a new machine when the original cost me £425. Prior to my PS3 dying, I'd always considered Sony products to be high-quality and well-built but, sadly, not any more. :(

  • M_of_the_sys #6 2 years ago

    Does it matter if the firmware update caused it or not? It's America. They'll probably win.

  • Darren #7 2 years ago

    P.S. I was nervous about updating my PS3 Slim's firmware from 2.85 to 3.01 but, so far, it seems to be working fine, although I noticed last night that the story overview that plays during the inital install of the new Ratchet & Clank: A Crack in Time game had out of sync dialogue. Don't know whether that was an issue with the firmware or the fact that I was downloading the Trine demo in the background. Hopefully it was the latter!

  • GamesConnoisseur #8 2 years ago

    Updating firmware should carry disclaimer that your PS3 is at risk of getting bricked, a remote chance but you have been warned and that you will also have to PAY for repairs if not still under warranty or insurance cover.

    Sony cannot pretends that it's not their problem when it's known to happen. We ll watch this space with the lawsuit!

  • Mayernator87 #9 2 years ago

    It's like the xbox firmware betas... Although they state that they won't be held responsible if your console is bricked. That's right, I read the terms and conditions.

  • funkateer #10 2 years ago

    I think there's zero chance that they'll be able to prove that the firmware update broke their PS3. And TWO whole people sueing Sony for a broken PS3? Come one, not very convincing is it...

    "you know in the unlikely event a firmware update screws up your ps3, its just hard drive corruption you see."
    No it's not. The firmware is on flash memory, not the HD.

  • miiiguel #11 2 years ago

    Does it matter if the firmware update caused it or not? It's America. They'll probably win.

    That's usually the feeling towards USA legal system, I must admit that I also thought they were a bit crazy, though, at the light of recent events, nowdays I think they have the most advanced and corruption free system. Just take a look at the record time they've put Madoff to rot in jail. Now compare with Europe... They have in fact a legal system which judges not only petty thefts and street crime but also white collar crimes/abuses.
    Edited by 1 at 06/11/09 @ 10:19

  • mingster #12 2 years ago

    Anthony_Daniels everything you just posted is bull.
    The firmware gets saved to Flash not HD.
    You cannot take out the HD and connect it to a PC.

  • markymark22 #13 2 years ago

    My firmward 3.01 seems fine. But maybe someone techy can help me...have a 80gb ps3 and a new phillips full hd tv. All worked perfect before but for some reason the screen can go blank. It was way way way more frequent (as in the xmb wouldn even be on screen) before i updated the firmware on both the ps3 and tv but it still happens and is very annoying as both sony and phillips said. Anyone have similar problems?

  • M_of_the_sys #14 2 years ago

    @miiiguel

    I was referring to the ridiculous lawsuit stories you hear about. I wasn't being serious though. Just being silly. It's just as ridiculous in Europe now to be honest.

    I don't think they will win but it would be good if it kicks Sony up the BEHIND to do something about the YLOD (as GamerG mentioned).

    Articles like this really make me fear for my PS3 but I know no one who's had the YLOD. One person had his Blu Ray drive fail but that's about it.

    I'm glad that the lawyer is doing this for all us PS3 owners and it's not costing me a penny :)

  • El-Dev #15 2 years ago

    [link url=http:/ /arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/02/xbox-360-failure-rates- worse-than-most-consumer-electornics.ars
    ]http://ar stechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/...[/link]


    One warranrty company says the PS3 failure rate is within the norm, as usual the problem is being blown out of proportion.

  • mungolikebeans #16 2 years ago

    Just send them a new one.

    Case closed.

  • zedzee #17 2 years ago

    "Sony has yet to comment on the matter."

    CORRECTION:

    "Sony has yet to find a way to wriggle out of the matter."

  • Horse #18 2 years ago

    Just because a company puts the line "Disclaimer: this update may break your stuff. If it does, tough, you can't sue." in their T&Cs doesn't mean you can't sue them. Especially not if refusing to apply the update means you can't continue to use the machine.

  • kangarootoo #19 2 years ago

    Couple of points.

    "The plaintiffs want the suit to be awarded class-action status, which means it would refer to every PS3 owner who installed one of the relevant firmware updates"

    Not quite. It would only refer to every owner that suffered the same fault. Those that installed the update without incident won't have anything to do with it.


    Second point. Proving causality is key in this. It isn't enough by a country mile to simply say "I installed the update and then my PS3 broke". It would have to be proved that the update caused the fault, and I'll bet a penny to a pound that neither of these two guys have done that yet.

    It seems possible on the face of it (expecially anecdotally for the two guys in question), but that means nothing in a court. Its like saying "I bought a desk lamp, and than my grandma had a heart attack" (obviously that is ludricrous, to make a point).



    And finally, I fully expect this thread to go the same was as the No Doubt thread, where people base their opinion of the case on whether they like Sony or not, and not at all on the facts (or absence thereof).

  • Shotaro #20 2 years ago

    "Updating firmware should carry disclaimer that your PS3 is at risk of getting bricked, a remote chance but you have been warned and that you will also have to PAY for repairs if not still under warranty or insurance cover. "

    You can't have an exclusion clause if you accept your actions may cause the issue
    Edited by 2 at 06/11/09 @ 11:05

  • Xerx3s #21 2 years ago

    Customer: "I did your update and now it won't work"
    Customer service: "Well, clearly you did it wrong because you're an idiot, I'll take your moneys now."

  • M_of_the_sys #22 2 years ago

    Amen Kanga. Amen.

  • Xerx3s #23 2 years ago

    miiiguel: Oke so just because they throw you in jail faster than you can say objection and we take our time to review all aspects, their system is better and less corrupt? Yeah right. I'm not saying that our system is good though.

  • El-Dev #24 2 years ago

    "Sony has yet to comment on the matter."

    No real suprise, commenting on an on-going court case probably isn't the smartest thing to do.

  • Xerx3s #25 2 years ago

    I've always found this a bit shit about FW updates. You are forced to update if you want to do anything but if it bricks because of it, they won't pony up the money.

  • mingster #26 2 years ago

    Anthony Daniels - so your saying that when you corrupt your firmware with a syetm update all you have to do is take out the harddrive and put a new one in and it lets you redownload a new firmware to fix the corrupted one?
    HAHAH i don't think so.
    1. You could only load the firmware from Disk or USB or via download.
    2. You won't be able to as your firmware is corrupt so your PS3 won't boot.
    It will try to start up.. flash yellow light then turn off.
    You are clearly deluded.
    and yes you can connect the 2.5" drive to a PC but you won't be able to use it on a PS3 again without reformatting it on a PS3.
    You won't be able to read any data from it on your PC either.
    You can only do a system or save game data backup, then save this data to an attached USB hard drive
    The do a restore to a new 2.5" HD.
    You cannot backup the data by connecting it to a PC.You also cannot backup and restore the HD if the PS3 firmware has corrupted.
    You can't even take the HD out and use it on a different PS3 without reformatting it completely and losing all the data.
    Edited by 2 at 06/11/09 @ 11:27

  • Skurmedel #27 2 years ago

    He's just zealous for the "holy" PS3 cause or something. I have a Slim so I seem to have "missed" this problem. Anyhow if it's that many people having problems I think we can rule out user stupidity.
    Edited by 2 at 06/11/09 @ 11:26

  • theiceman #28 2 years ago

    I had my 3rd ps3 about five months ago. It was really quiet,no problems at all until i updated to 3.01. two days later i had the YLOD while playing cod4. I was lucky enough to get my disc out in time. Coincidence? I'll let you decide....

  • Hexagon #29 2 years ago

    I hope this issue is resolved soon in favour of gamers.

  • SeesThroughAll #30 2 years ago

    Hope they win the case, I would hate to get mine bricked over an update and then still be forced to pay the repair.

    I am curious about this. What are the numbers on failures caused by FW updates, except for firmware 2.40?

  • miiiguel #31 2 years ago

    @Xerx3s : Well, I doubt they would ever have a Berlusconi in charge, and I bet a Nixon would live happily ever after in most European countries. Yes, nowdays I really think they have the 4 pillars of democracy equally strong.

  • davisorle #32 2 years ago

    This as been going on ever since the dayt after the firmare update. I read it even on websites that are not console related. Been wondering how come and wasnt posted as an article here so far but I guess the Uncharted 2 hype was all that mattered and at all the ones that had to pay to fix their bricked PS3s.

    Short story, yeah lawsuit against Sony has been filled of the kind since the day after of the firmware update with the ps3 slim release. I find it only fair that the PS3 owners that dont suck it up for that shit, get to fuck them over a bit to feeel it under their skin. At least they are smart enough to claim what they desearve instead of just pay to fix what they fucked up fro the company itself... I do find it only fair.

  • icematt12 #33 2 years ago

    No issues with my launch PS3, and I installed the trophy update on the day it was available before it was pulled. Yet my 2 year old 360 has just suddenly lost all colour, appearing briefly for a few minutes sometimes. End result is if they release dodgy stuff, they should be liable. Particularly when they are forcing you to update to use certain features.

  • SeesThroughAll #34 2 years ago

    RE: US Justic being efficient and corruption free:

    I agree it's efficient, in that people get convicted quickly. But that doesn't make justice perfect anywhere.

    Corruption free? Sure!

    They never had a Berlusconi in charge... but they did have two Bushes! ;)

    I'm sure Madoff was the only banker who exploited clients and deserved to rot in jail. The financial meltdown might have been his fault and his fault alone! I bet Lee Harvey Oswald really was the only shooter too. Heck, Nixon really was an exceptional fiend of a president!

    Seriously, thinking that the american judicial system is that much better than the european is naive to say the least. Corruption is worldwide spread.
    Edited by 2 at 06/11/09 @ 12:06

  • teabagger #35 2 years ago

    Lols at the fanboys marking kangarootoo down for the heinous crime of having a balanced point of view.

    If you ran a company you'd want proof that you were the cause of a fault in your product before you started handing out dollar bills so there's really no need to get in a huff about it, the failure rate of the PS3 is actually pretty respectable.

  • funkateer #36 2 years ago

    "Good for them, it was this kind of mooted action that eventually got Microsoft to pony up for their 3 year RROD warrenty

    Hopefully this will make Sony sort the YROD mess out and pay back the money the £150 repair bills they have been forcing gamers sometimes multiple times."

    1) There is a *huge* difference in scope between the RROD issue of the first 360 models and current YLOD issues
    2) This case has nothing to do with YLOD

    I still don't see how those 2 people are going to prove their case. You could argue that unless the PS3 never had a firmware update, *every* broken PS3 broke down after a firmware update. That doesn't necessarily make the firmware update the cause.

    I'm not saying that nothing can go wrong with a firmware update, but a bluray drive failing because of a software problem is quite unlikely and proving a correlation between the problem and a firmware update is close to impossible. Remember that the burdon of proof is at the 2 PS3 owners.

    That said, IF the PS3 owners are in fact correct, I do hope that they are somehow able to prove it.

  • kangarootoo #37 2 years ago

    "I've always found this a bit shit about FW updates. You are forced to update if you want to do anything but if it bricks because of it, they won't pony up the money."

    The two things are unconnected.

    On the first count, you have always been required to have the latest software when using an online service. PSN, XBLive, World of Warcraft, Counter Strike (per server). Even some websites demands a minimum level of browser to ensure compatability. That is nothing new at all, and really how could it reasonably be any other way?

  • kangarootoo #38 2 years ago

    @icematt12

    "Yet my 2 year old 360 has just suddenly lost all colour"

    That actually sounds like hardware rather than software. It can be one of the symptoms preceding a RROD, though it could equally be a dodgy cable. If the screen starts turning green, you are definitely heading that way.

  • kangarootoo #39 2 years ago

    "Seriously, thinking that the american judicial system is that much better than the european is naive to say the least. Corruption is worldwide spread."

    I for one don't know enough about the legal systems of the US or any European country to compare them.

    However, corruption is something that exists in people, not legal systems. A legal system can lack safe guards, which then in turn allows corrupt people to takle advantage for their own ends.

    What we saw in the recent banking crisis was not a new wave of corrupt or greedy people (they have always, and will always, be around), but a new excessively unguarded system that allowed said corrupt and greedy people to profit via excessive risk (risk that eventually played out, as all statistics will in time).

    New measures to protect against that sort of behaviour were brought in after the US 1920s depression, but those measures were corroded over time (and never existed in other countries) until the same risk taking became common place once again. That in combination with a global banking market that ties the finances of many countries together in a way that was not the case 90 years ago, has brough us to where we are now.


    Trying to stop people being corrupt in their hearts is a waste of time. In fact steering that corruption and greed is what makes some banks successful. Controlling the environment in which they work so they can do no damage is the important thing to focus on. As a metaphor, a guard dog should be EXPECTED to have the capacity to be angry and vicous, but it should also be under strict control.
    Edited by 1 at 06/11/09 @ 13:27

  • M_of_the_sys #40 2 years ago

    @theiceman

    " updated to 3.01. two days later i had the YLOD while playing cod4.

    If it was the frimware update, would it really happen two days after you updated?

  • kangarootoo #41 2 years ago

    @notmyrealname

    It was not the job of the trial to locate the stolen money. That sort of thing needs specialist investigators, not a Judge.

    And if the accountant says he doesn't know where the money went, what are they going to do, hit his legs with sticks till he comes clean?

    I'm not saying its ok that the money has been laundered, but that isn't the fault of the trial.

  • SeesThroughAll #42 2 years ago

    @ kangarootoo:

    I should have written "has always been" instead of "is" :)
    Edited by 1 at 06/11/09 @ 13:48

  • Spekingur #43 2 years ago

    @M: It might, if it is related to heat issues (or heat dispersion issues rather). It might have changed how cooling fans work etc. If he would have the game on constantly it might, in the end, cause something to break. Just like on a PC!

  • kangarootoo #44 2 years ago

    "But ask yourself: Why only sentence that guy, and not recover the gazillion amount of stolen money wit hthe same fervour?"

    Absolutely. I'm not for a second saying that great efforts should not go into recovering the funds that were stolen. I'm just saying it is a seperate process. They probably ARE trying to track the money down, but it can be a difficult and lengthy process (I would imagine, I'm no expert).

  • Gazza_UK #45 2 years ago

    So if the update did this, why hasnt every single ps3 gone BOOM?

  • Darren #46 2 years ago

    @Gazza_UK - There are internal differences between one PS3 and another that might appear identical externally. Like all consoles, the hardware design go through a series of changes over their life span, slight modifications to the motherboard, different fans and PSUs, redesigned CPU/GPUs, different memory chips, different makes of hard drive, etc., etc. These differences can mean that what works for most people doesn't necessarily work for EVERYONE.

    I've no doubt that this is one of the reasons why the PS3 has had so many firmware updates and those mysteriously vague "fixes certain issues with PS3 software" ones. Sony only have themselves to blame if these things go wrong. Personally I think they should have adopted the same approach to firmware updates that Microsoft and Nintendo have, i.e. only update when absolutely necessary otherwise stick to one or two updates per year. How many firmware updates has the PS3 had since launch... I'm betting it's pushing 30, including minor updates, possibly more? That's ridiculous IMO.

  • jambo74 #47 2 years ago

    SONY to PONY real soon I think...

  • Darren #48 2 years ago

    *Update*

    According to Wikipedia ( http://en.w ikipedia.org/wiki/PS3_firmware ), the PS3 has no less than 40 (FORTY!!!!!!) firmware updates since its release. That is absurd really. I don't even think the Xbox 360 or Wii have had a quarter of that figure and the former has been out longer plus had a radical redesign of its dashboard.

  • rprince #49 2 years ago

    @GamerG: this issue is with the firmware bricking machines. The YLOD is a hardware malfunction. They're not suing about YLOD and it's not going to make Sony change their stance on YLOD.

  • i_saw_dasein #50 2 years ago

    I can't speak to the American system specifically, but Madoff was charged criminally, and generally in criminal cases the focus is not on recovering assets. Recovering assets and seeking damages is a civil matter and would be tried separately. I believe some of Maddoff's "investors" are in fact suing him and some of his associates in an attempt to recover, but I'd be surprised if they actually get anything.

    Basically lesson here is caveat emptor bitches

  • M_of_the_sys #51 2 years ago

    @Spekingur

    I didn't consider that. You'd still have to consider that it could be something other than the FW update.

    If he would have the game on constantly it might, in the end, cause something to break. Just like on a PC!

    I read an article once where 'scientists' had 'found' that computers left on all the time live longer than computers turned off when not used. Hard drive related though.

  • miiiguel #52 2 years ago

    I hope you realise it's not even a democracy but a republic...

    WTF?! Republics are representative democracies.

  • kangarootoo #53 2 years ago

    @M_of_the_sys

    That is true, and applies to many physical devices. "Getting up to speed" and "running down" is the time when the mechanisms are under most strain.

    A hard drive running along at a steady pelt is at its happiest and can run for years that way with no probs (there will of course by the odd duffer that won't do that). In a previous work life, I came across a system in a university that had not been rebooted for over 2 years (it was Unix based - you would never get that sort of stability out of your average Windows system) and it was doing its little job (something to do with their email system) just fine.

    A drive is designed to be at its most reliable in the running state, partly because that is how it spends most of its life, but also because that is when data read/write can occur (and therefore when a failure could be most damaging to data ingegrity).

  • GreyBeard #54 2 years ago

    Here's the thing: Mandatory updates are... mandatory! Everybody with a PS3 needs to do it.

    If only a fraction of a percent of users suffer the problem, there's reason to suspect the fault may lie with them not with Sony's update technology. And objectively, that's what we're looking at here.

    Its a frivolous suit that'll get kicked out at the first hurdle unless the plaintiffs and their legal team can demonstrate a significant number of the userbase has been affected, and there simply is no way they can do that unless several million other complainants come forward.

  • Bravestinsane #55 2 years ago

    "As reported by Gamespot the plaintiffs, who live in the US,"

    >US< ... now why doesn't that supprise me.

  • miiiguel #56 2 years ago

    In a previous work life, I came across a system in a university that had not been rebooted for over 2 years

    I have plenty of servers in *my* datacenter with uptimes > 600 days. :}

  • kangarootoo #57 2 years ago

    Nice. What are they running?




    ...yes I realise this is geeky. Don't worry everyone, it will pass.

  • homerramone #58 2 years ago

    Anthony_Daniels:funny how ive managed to pull save files and game data when I changed drives then isn't it
    care to enlighten people as to how. A friend needed to do this and couldnt find a way to do so... (Im not saying you cant.. I just wanna know how !!)

  • kangarootoo #59 2 years ago

    "Aren't we all using the same machines? Why would it kill a few consoles and nobody elses?"

    Because its just coincidence nothing to do with the updates?

  • VibratingDonkey #60 2 years ago

    How do you prove the update was the cause? Because it seems logical that that's something you'd have to do before filing a lawsuit claiming it was?

  • kangarootoo #61 2 years ago

    @VibratingDonkey

    It would need some pretty thorough technical investigation. Much the same as Sony themselves would go through if they thought the update had a problem. Its certainly not something these two plaintiffs could have carried out.

    I don't know whether this kind of lawsuit requires proof beyond reasonable doubt or just probable cause (in the UK criminal and cival cases differ in that way I think). If the prosecution need to prove that the update caused the failure, I doubt their case has a hope in hell.

  • gazmando #62 2 years ago

    Regarding where the firmware update is stored:-
    When I changed my hardrive about a year and a half ago I didn't have to do anything apart from restoring my stuff from my external drive.
    About a month ago my friend changed his and had to download the firmware on his PC and then load it onto his PS3 before the setup routine would begin.
    On a few websites they said this was because later firmware updates were too big for the flash memory and had to be stored on the hard drive.
    Regarding the original point, my original 60gb machine failed a couple of days after the 3.00 update.
    I'm not into conspiracy theories but this has made me wonder.

  • icematt12 #63 2 years ago

    kangarootoo - I tried a new AV cable, still the same. Microsoft have just told me to pay for it to be fixed. But if this is a sign of RROD coming, I might just keep using my console so I can get a free repair. Might not be ale to afford repair until after Chrimbo. Sounds to me like this is a bit of a known issue to them, read of other cases on the WWW, but it's somet they can get away with.

    Thing is though this first started to happen a day or two before I downloaded any Preview stuff, but it should be unrelated unless there was some sort of unknown download(s) occuring.

    Whats really needed for this case is people reporting their cases of YLOD into one source, seeing as these two seem to be fighting for PS3 owners everywhere. I can't see this case lasting long personally, but I would be interested to see what info Sony would reveal about their hardware and their updates in defence.
    Edited by 1 at 06/11/09 @ 19:26

  • ISmoke #64 2 years ago

    Darren, Same happened to me but TCR sent it back broke so Game ended up giving me a 120GB Slim. Was out of warranty aswell.

  • kangarootoo #65 2 years ago

    @icematt12

    My last one started playing up, and I knew it was an RROD in the making (I'm on my 5th or 6th, I lose count). But like you it wasn't a RROD at the time and I couldn't send it MS without risking a repair bill.

    I found that repeatedly playing DVD movies helped send it over the edge. Based on what I know about the issue and the towel wrap fix, uneven heating can speed the arrival of an impending RROD, and working the DVD drive hard at the same time as the GPU (which I believe does the DVD decompression) seems to "help". I'm guessing a little bit, and my own experience is anecdotal of course, but I think my theory makes some sense.

    Good luck with it. If its a consolation, I think MS have the issue in hand now. My latest 360 wasn't a repair but a replacement, and I trust that it is a recent enough edition that I won't see an RROD again. So if you can force your current one over the edge, it should hopefully be the last time you have to go through it all.

  • icematt12 #66 2 years ago

    Thanks for the info kangarootoo, good thing my Gold Live is out now or not much longer. If products are known to be unreliable, maybe in this future European superstate we could see extended gurantees enforced. Well, I can dream...

    I just saw I Robot, black and white makes it an interesting experience. Had some bits that were in purple, never happened before so I guess my console don't like DVDs currently.

    On topic, isn't the title a bit misleading? I feel that "Sony could be sued" or "Sony to be taken to court, but probably won't be sued" would be more appropiate. The title implies to me that the court has already come to a decision against Sony.
    Edited by 3 at 07/11/09 @ 13:54

  • BigAl-1992 #67 2 years ago

    I can reason with them. My ps3 sometimes freezes when I'm; leaving the PS Store, leaving the Internet Browser or finishing a game. It can be a pain in the arse to reset the sysmen for the fifth time in a day.

  • skx #68 2 years ago

    please take those news serious EG,
    and keep on reporting, otherwise nothing will happen.

    Exactly the same symptoms in inexactly the same way and time frame happend to my PS3 like it happed to a couple of hundreds other PS3 owner that are reporting their disfunctional PS3 in the official PS3 Forum

    [link url=http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation /board?board.id=ps3updates
    ]http://bo ardsus.playstation.com/playstat...[/link]

    Now my BluRay does not work anymore.

    And when you calculate, than estimate thousands of others how mostly do not go the internet to complain.

  • kangarootoo #69 2 years ago

    @icematt12

    I think that as the case has been filed, the title is technically correct. They are "being sued", even though the case probably won't go anywhere.

  • Bigglesworth #70 2 years ago

    [...] the PS3 has no less than 40 (FORTY!!!!!!) firmware updates since its release. That is absurd really.

    Well, first, several of those updates are either (a) region specific, (b) minor and optional, or (c) not released publicly. Second, you're not seriously concerned about memory-wear, are you?