Sony Europe comments on GT5 delay
"Only applicable for Japanese market."
Sony Europe has said that Gran Turismo 5's latest delay is "only applicable for the Japanese market", although the platform holder also declined to estimate when the game will be released.
"This information on the GT release is only applicable for the Japanese market," the company said in a statement to Eurogamer. "SCEE will announce the launch date for this game in the PAL territories in due course."
Sony Japan had announced a March 2010 release date for Gran Turismo 5 at the Tokyo Game Show last year, while SCEE had been a little more cautious, declining to confirm a date for the much-anticipated Polyphony Digital racer.
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Poor case of stating the obvious.
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I ebt the game will see a worldwide xmas release date, they will sit on it until then. Greedy bastards.
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That's certainly worth considering. Forza 3 is a very engaging driving experience if you like messing with cars or even just want to race.
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Forza 4 will be ready before USA/EU GT5 launch.
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erm, how can they be greedy bastards if they are sitting on it holding off til xmas release. they aint EARNING from it if its not released!
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If it gets renamed Gran Turismo Forver then you know they're in trouble....
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*Stolen from a poster at Kotaku
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Jesus.... flat on its fucking face!
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I think Sony have stepped up a gear in the last 12 months or so, but considering GT5 is one of, if not THE single biggest release of the PS3 this news has undone a lot of the hard work Naughty Dog have done. If I were a Sony exec, I'd be highly embarassed.
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you must be very, very young if you think selling 25 million consoles is a faceplant. if you wanna know about consoles that fell flat on their face, try reading up on the jaguar.
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It's like they just keep trying to find ways to shoot themselves in the foot! I've never seen such inept leadership and management at Sony before - what the hell happened to them this gen?
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So, the PS3 is a success then, is it?
C'mon man, it's a fucking colossal failure - coming off the back of the PS2. A failure of ginormous proportions...
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Dec 2004 - Gran turismo 4 (Japan)
May 2005 - Forza
May 2007 - Forza 2
Oct 2009 - Forza 3
Just release the game already.
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Will it ever see light of day?
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That's patently untrue!
The first GT came out in 97, the second in 99, the third in 2001, the fourth in 2004 and now it's 2010 with no sign of the fifth...
So I think you can safely say - the standards have gone to shit over in Polyphony Digital...
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And this is a fucking joke! You know it and I know it!
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I mean, GT4 came out in 2004, if after 4 years the sequel was a buggy mess then they'd have had to fuck up everything! Lose all the original code or something and start again from scratch....
Excuses, excuses...
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Exactly. Then you have idiots stating a 200mb dl is the latest build.
Taking way too long to release tho
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Yes, I'm a fanboy of games that are actually released, if that's what you mean...
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Again, I say - excuses, excuses...
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Alan Wake wouldn't have had much reusable code to work with and is a story based game so I imagine that lots of the delays are with plot, puzzles, pacing, voice acting etc etc.
GT5 however would have used 'some' GT4 code I'm sure. Also, if its anything like Forza all the car models are subbed out to India. Once the framework is in place it shouldn't be that hard to add the content.
Personally I think this down to the difficulties in PS3 development trying to get it to graphically meet the specs that people were promised of the console before it launched. They seem to have almost managed it, but its taken a lot of work and trying to then fit in decent AI, physics, body damage and head tracking(?) as well has given them quite the task. EDIT: At the time they probably imagined they could get away with the usual AI and no body damage. That's what happens when you rest of your laurels and some decent competition comes along.
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It's late. It's taken too long. Nobody is really that bothered about whatever little crappy addition they're doing to it now. The core of the game is ready, over 1000 cars are ready, tracks are ready. Just they're insistent on putting everything ever into the game. Which is nice, but time wastingly pointless. Forza III doesnt have everything in it, but its still a bloody ace racing game. If they spent less time acurately modelling how raindrops roll off the car bonnet it would be out already.
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It's also "patently untrue" to say that standard have gone to hell at Polyphony Digital as you can pretty much guarantee that GT5 will blow every game of this generation out of the water on build quality and content. Too many developers now take the "that will do" approach to build quality and then release with gamebreaking bugs or shoddy performance (Failout 3) or cut content out to sell on later as DLC (Assassins Creed 2). When GT5 is finally released it will finally be proven that you can take proper time and care over a game and still be successful, even when making a sim in the racing game genre which has gone almost completely arcade as of late.
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But, what I've seen doesn't fill me with confidence. The AI is still rudimentary. The lopsidedness of having "full damage" for 170 cars and "some damage" for the rest is silly (either do it right or don't do it at all). GT5
I just don't see it as the "perfect game"...
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Seriously disappointed with the graphics. And if it's postponed in Japan (for whatever reason, I think there's too many titles being released in Q1) it means we won't be getting this untillQ4 2010 or even Q1 2011. Don't get me wrong, I've been a hardcore fan of the GT-series but this is beyond a joke. How can SCE agree with the PD-timeframe?
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I really hope for PD that they sell 2.2 million copies on launch day :/
But... no.
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So you think Forza will outsell Gt 5?
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By the way: "The game had been due for release in Japan in March, but that would now be pushed back a month, the company confirmed in a press release."
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Is it true?
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* AI will be the same as ever.
* Graphics won't be much better than Forza (albeit with a better lighting model) as real shots from Digital Foundry prove, not this upscaled bullshit Sony feed us.
* Tracks will be roughly on par with Forza
* Online will be SHIT compared to Forza. It's simply not even worth comparing. Storefront, lag free racing, purchasable car tunes, setups, photos, video replays, in depth leaderboards, car designs, paint logos, etc etc etc etc.
* It has 1000+ cars. Very nice, but I can guarantee you that there will be 32 Skylines and Supras that look no different and behave no differently, every single variation of every 911, Gallardo, Ford Focus, BMW 3 series etc that are just plain boring.
* Damage won't rock your world the way you want it to - only rally cars are fully deformable? Correct me if I'm wrong.
* Weather effects - very nice but not a must have, although great fun for wet weather racing
* Night time racing - again, very nice, but turn your brightness down on your tv and you have pretty much the same thing on Forza
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Must be why Forza got released on time then, they didn't care about shit looking trees and rightly so. I suppose though if you spend a lot of time looking at the trees in racing games you probably shouldn't be playing them.
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I have Forza 3 and I like it, but my point was directed at those who were moaning about the time taken to get GT5 out to us. This isn't merely an update.
Personally I'm looking forward to the night racing and weather features as it will add some much needed variety, as will the different racing disciplines and tracks specific to them. And then you have head tracking and damage systems too, all of this takes time and I'd rather they take their time and do it properly instead of rushing it out on the final straight to appease the belligerent fans.
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And you base this on what exactly?
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When I heard the dinner-jazz soundtrack on the demo videos I almost lost the will to live. Gran Turismo used to be ground breaking - the first racing RPG no less - now it's just one soulless and tiresome remake after another. Maybe if they'd spent the last three years on crash physics and realistic damage it would have elevated it onto a whole new arena. Sadly this seems not to be the case.
I'm not saying it should be a Burnout-style crash simulator, I'm just saying that the actual cause/effect element of driving a car at speed has always been missing from the series and it looks like PD have completely failed to give a hoot with this latest version.
To paraphrase - Real driving simulator my arse.
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so true. i wish they'd focus on fun gameplay again, instead of that soulless car porn that was GT4. i still have some hopes for 5, but they're getting lower and lower with every delay...
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Again I expect to be marked down the same as everyone else who has spoken sense or defended GT/PD but I for one am confident that this will be THE racing game of this generation. Build quality, content and enjoyability, those are the main factors in a good game and GT will have all three, I'm certain of that.
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GT5 and GOW3 are both exclusives so they wouldn't be release in the same month
Worldwide release?
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They should just release the game and then put those features in a patch or something. Night racing and weather isn't really a make-or-break feature for any racer.
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they already did, it's called GT5
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It seems to me that this was all untrue, and a case of Sony lying in an attempt to prevent people fed up with waiting buying a 360 and Forza. Seems another case of Sony being dishonest and trying to fool us.
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I suppose that the problem with a game like this, that has been in development for so long is that they going to have to be constantly updating old code to keep it up with the new releases. Yes, it's going to look beautiful and be a solid game, but the original design was thought of 6 years or so ago and think how much driving games have come since then.
Shame.
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I own Forza 3, it's fun but the drive train swaps have ruined this game along with that ignorant matchmaking. AWD is king in Forza 3, only cars that can beat those are Prototypes. I wish there were more old school cars in Forza, nothing wrong with have options, variety is the spice of life my friends.
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"The first GT came out in 97, the second in 99, the third in 2001, the fourth in 2004 and now it's 2010 with no sign of the fifth...
So I think you can safely say - the standards have gone to shit over in Polyphony Digital.."
Going by that logic (and that last statement of yours), I guess you could say Remedy who are developing the 360 exclusive Alan Wake have standards to match that of PD?
But yeah, ON-TOPIC, this delay has gone on long enough now. PD should learn when to say "Okay, this is good enough".
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Ok, but surely translating the little text the game have to english can't take more than a few weeks?
It not a epic RPG with massive amounts of text or speech after all...