Sony Europe comments on GT5 delay News

it's only for the Japanese market, since it's somewhat hard to delay a game in the US/europe that doesn't have a release date.

^^ Pretty much. The release date was only announced for the Japanese market so the delay can only be for the Japanese market.

Poor case of stating the obvious.

Obviously it doesn't affect europe as they haven't announced it here yet!

It was good to see a few more tracks and cars @ CES. I'm also guessing that we will get to see SPA when the time trial moves to the next stage . . .

Seriously tempted to ditch my PS3 now and get the excellent and real Forza 3 on the great XBOX360

Gave up waiting and got Forza 3 and a MS wheel for the Xbox. Loving it so far. Surely all these delays are just costing them sales?

It's probably gamers feedback from the demo causing the delay.

@tachometer

That's certainly worth considering. Forza 3 is a very engaging driving experience if you like messing with cars or even just want to race.

this is getting bloody stupid now

Demo was VERY sh1ttty - poor graphics and not even fluid 60fps... so they are fixing engine.

Forza 4 will be ready before USA/EU GT5 launch.

@sesskie #4

erm, how can they be greedy bastards if they are sitting on it holding off til xmas release. they aint EARNING from it if its not released!

The wait is just the start.

Yeah, as per above comments, you can't delay something that doesn't have a release date. As per my comment in the previous article, just pin "GT5 delayed" at the top, then when it finally comes out, EG can remove it.

If it gets renamed Gran Turismo Forver then you know they're in trouble....

@Beasly, "If it gets renamed Gran Turismo Forver then you know they're in trouble...."

http://imgur.com/ZnQAr.jpg


*Stolen from a poster at Kotaku

Xmas 2010 confirmed!

@cianchristopher

I think Sony have stepped up a gear in the last 12 months or so, but considering GT5 is one of, if not THE single biggest release of the PS3 this news has undone a lot of the hard work Naughty Dog have done. If I were a Sony exec, I'd be highly embarassed.

Lost interest in GT5 a long time ago.

@cianchristopher

you must be very, very young if you think selling 25 million consoles is a faceplant. if you wanna know about consoles that fell flat on their face, try reading up on the jaguar.

Oh sure, they have improved in the past 12 months (Uncharted 2 is one of the best games ever made, IMO) - but c'mon!

It's like they just keep trying to find ways to shoot themselves in the foot! I've never seen such inept leadership and management at Sony before - what the hell happened to them this gen?

@JahB

So, the PS3 is a success then, is it?

C'mon man, it's a fucking colossal failure - coming off the back of the PS2. A failure of ginormous proportions...

Realease dates according to wiki:

Dec 2004 - Gran turismo 4 (Japan)
May 2005 - Forza
May 2007 - Forza 2
Oct 2009 - Forza 3

Just release the game already.

Monty - nicely done, that's a whole dose of perspective for Polphony right there.

This is living!

Is GT5 the new Duke Nukem Forever?
Will it ever see light of day?

@Hindle

That's patently untrue!

The first GT came out in 97, the second in 99, the third in 2001, the fourth in 2004 and now it's 2010 with no sign of the fifth...

So I think you can safely say - the standards have gone to shit over in Polyphony Digital...

Perhaps Polophny should concentrate on making the damn not pissing about make the dash and such for the latest skyline !

No sign? The people playing at CES were playing on some fairy dust version then.

No sign of the fifth being released, Widge!

And this is a fucking joke! You know it and I know it!

I wonder if this will get released before Alan Wake...

Youre a fanboy Cianchristopher simple as that.

If GT5 came out 2 years ago (2008) and was a buggy mess then they'd have to be some shitty developers, wouldn't they?

I mean, GT4 came out in 2004, if after 4 years the sequel was a buggy mess then they'd have had to fuck up everything! Lose all the original code or something and start again from scratch....

Excuses, excuses...

@widge

Exactly. Then you have idiots stating a 200mb dl is the latest build.

Taking way too long to release tho

A fanboy of what?

Yes, I'm a fanboy of games that are actually released, if that's what you mean...

Actually Hindle, I just showed that they don't always take ages to make their games (look up a couple of posts)...

Again, I say - excuses, excuses...

I wondered how long it would take for a tit-for-tat comment about Alan Wake to appear. Alan Wake is clearly taking longer than it should have done, no question, but I can see distinct differences in the type of game and why one would have better reasons for a delay than the other.

Alan Wake wouldn't have had much reusable code to work with and is a story based game so I imagine that lots of the delays are with plot, puzzles, pacing, voice acting etc etc.

GT5 however would have used 'some' GT4 code I'm sure. Also, if its anything like Forza all the car models are subbed out to India. Once the framework is in place it shouldn't be that hard to add the content.

Personally I think this down to the difficulties in PS3 development trying to get it to graphically meet the specs that people were promised of the console before it launched. They seem to have almost managed it, but its taken a lot of work and trying to then fit in decent AI, physics, body damage and head tracking(?) as well has given them quite the task. EDIT: At the time they probably imagined they could get away with the usual AI and no body damage. That's what happens when you rest of your laurels and some decent competition comes along. ;)

Hindle - PD make the best car models. I would give you a spade but you seem to be digging a nice enough hole as it is.

[rant]
It's late. It's taken too long. Nobody is really that bothered about whatever little crappy addition they're doing to it now. The core of the game is ready, over 1000 cars are ready, tracks are ready. Just they're insistent on putting everything ever into the game. Which is nice, but time wastingly pointless. Forza III doesnt have everything in it, but its still a bloody ace racing game. If they spent less time acurately modelling how raindrops roll off the car bonnet it would be out already.
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Release it when they want I say. Its not like I'm sitting on the net F5-ing until it comes out. You'd think there was nothing else to play in this world.

Cian: Polyphony have been working with Nissan building cars and onboard computers during the gap between finishing GT4 and starting GT5, truth is we don't know when development began but we do know that Alan Wake was first shown at E3 in 2005 and GT5 in 2006, so it's quite likely that Alan Wake has been in production at least as long as GT5 if not longer.

It's also "patently untrue" to say that standard have gone to hell at Polyphony Digital as you can pretty much guarantee that GT5 will blow every game of this generation out of the water on build quality and content. Too many developers now take the "that will do" approach to build quality and then release with gamebreaking bugs or shoddy performance (Failout 3) or cut content out to sell on later as DLC (Assassins Creed 2). When GT5 is finally released it will finally be proven that you can take proper time and care over a game and still be successful, even when making a sim in the racing game genre which has gone almost completely arcade as of late.

Hindle, I would love for GT5 to be the "perfect game" that you speak of...

But, what I've seen doesn't fill me with confidence. The AI is still rudimentary. The lopsidedness of having "full damage" for 170 cars and "some damage" for the rest is silly (either do it right or don't do it at all). GT5:P was a major disappointment. Having the game in production for 6 years (for an iterative sequel, not an new IP) is extremely worrying.

I just don't see it as the "perfect game"...

Exactly Widge it will be done when its done.

Thank you Murton couldnt have said it better myself.

5 years of work on a title that exists of 30% unchanged tracks since 1997...Don't know who's all DL'd the GT5 trial from the PSN store recently but it looks like crap.
Seriously disappointed with the graphics. And if it's postponed in Japan (for whatever reason, I think there's too many titles being released in Q1) it means we won't be getting this untillQ4 2010 or even Q1 2011. Don't get me wrong, I've been a hardcore fan of the GT-series but this is beyond a joke. How can SCE agree with the PD-timeframe?