Sony downplays FFXIII Xbox 360 deal Comments by Robert Purchese

If it's good I'd buy it for the PS3, because of:

- Trophies (I like them more than achievement points)
- I'd be getting the game on 1 BD, instead of 4-5 DVDs
- Maybe SE would allow for unlocking charaters or other stuff in FF XIII Versus, when you have a save-game or trophies from FF XIII.

And by the time it is out the PlayStation 3 will have taken over the Xbox 360 already.

To be honest, I'll never understand 'sales figure fanboys'. I mean, gloating about your system of choice having the best games library is one thing. Gloating because it sells well is just strange imo. It's like a Ford Fiesta owner saying "Yeah, take that you fucking Veyron owners, my car soldz mor than yours init! BugattiLOL"

What a bullshit. I own both PS/ PS2 and bought a 360 at launch. A year ago I was thinking of buying a PS3 because I'm a big fan of FF series / God Of War/ GTA and Twisted Metal. Now with Sony losing all these exclusives to 360 ( except GOW and TM ) I will wait till the price drops under 250€ and will probably buy their games in platinum.

The truth as they say is probably somewhere in the middle. FFXIII will likely stop the sale of a some PS3 consoles ( God alone knows how many ) but it'll likely do nothing to increase the 360 install base. BTW it makes no sense for SquareEnix to release it on the 360 in Japan, they'll never recoup their development costs by releasing it on a console with a pitiful install base.

I think Sony will counter this Microsoft move the same way they handled the GTA4 saga, release a bundle, possibly a price drop at the time of the game's release. That's probably why they're so cocky.

@old skool,

While I agree that it's probably not worth SE releasing the game on 360 in jp, I don't think development costs would be a factor.

They'll have the jp text and audio from the PS3 version and the rest of the code from the rotw 360 version. Relatively speaking it would be a doddle to do.

I'm not sure how many of those 600k 360 owners would buy the game tbh. If 500k would buy it then it may well be worth their while. That's for them to decide although I suspect the potential profits from such a small install base would make it very easy for Sony to pay for jp exclusivity. ;)

Given the price and number of JRPG's on the 360 it 'could' reach a point where people actually start buying the thing in decent numbers. Won't happen if FF is exclusive though.

"While I agree that it's probably not worth SE releasing the game on 360 in jp, I don't think development costs would be a factor.

They'll have the jp text and audio from the PS3 version and the rest of the code from the rotw 360 version. Relatively speaking it would be a doddle to do. "

@SpaceMidget75
Well, that depends if they are developing the game on both platforms at the same pace and timeline. If not then that means the Jap PS3 version will be ready before the 360 version, who knows. Eternal Sonata didn't help, neither did Lost Oddesey. No use in flogging a dead horse.

I'm assuming that they wait until the 360 version is complete i.e. the PS3 version would have been out in jp already.

i like jam

@Godhather08:

You jumped to defend your comment (fair enough) yet you didn't question who Apologie is, so allow me to remain skeptical...

Ooh, by the way, next time you are responding to me, please keep the swearing to yourself, will you?

@ZeroCool

What's that sound? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's my next doors neighbours 360, I wonder what they're playing, maybe it's DMC4 or FFXIII or RE5 or one of the other "Sony exclusiveslol" (all with anti-aliasing, no jaggies and no forced install).

/fixed

The PS3 is the better blu-ray player, end of.

/fixed again

;)

@JonFE
"You jumped to defend your comment (fair enough) yet you didn't question who Apologie is, so allow me to remain skeptical...

Ooh, by the way, next time you are responding to me, please keep the swearing to yourself, will you?"


Well, I have no clue who or what Apologie is except for the meaning of the word, and I apologise for swearing in my response to you. I got a carried away and hot headed with this thread. I don't know why you many here question me being new to EG.

Guess the atmosphere here is more hostile than other places I visit on the web.

@Arbiter

I really hope that FFXIII *REQUIRES* an install on all platforms, because at least that way the game won't suffer from the limited range of baddies per-area that Lost Odyssey does. It's not a major problem, but anyone who's played a FF title in the past would have found the relative lack of variation in LO noticable.

Jesus, you're scraping that barrel so hard you have wood chips under your fingernails.

Godhather08, apology accepted.

BTW Apologie is one of the most vocal Sony defenders/fanboys (take your pick) here in Eurogamer, or at least was until recently when he stopped posting under that nick (but is suspected to return under another). He was very pro-Sony/anti-MS under all circumstances and he kept coping-pasting various passages found on the web to support *his* opinions.

"Godhather08, apology accepted."

Thank you JonFE.

I'm not anti-MS, I think the X360 is a powerful console and has it's place just like the Wii and the PS3. I do not wish any of the 3 consoles to fail, the competition forces Sony and Microsoft to deliver more, better and faster.

The problem with Microsoft is that they are so US-centric.

The US has a vast minority of the worlds population... they are just loud and obnoxious, so they tend to have their opinions heard.

"Vast minority". Great thread this, many chuckles.

I am one of the "vast minority" who would have bought a PS3 for FFXIII if I had to - to play it.

Thing is I already have a PS3 beside an Xbox360. I'm still getting FFXIII for my 360 though, cos it's a better machine to play games on.

The PS3 is a very good Blu-Ray player and DVD upscaler. But it has a very small, and mostly unattractive catalog of games.

"Vast minority" - that's like, almost an oxymoron, isn't it?

Final Fantasy on 360 - there's another!

By the time I get to Phoenix she'll be rising
She'll find the note I left hangin' on her door
She'll laugh when she reads the part that says I'm leavin'
'Cause I've left that girl so many times before

By the time I make Albuquerque she'll be working
She'll prob'ly stop at lunch and give me a call
But she'll just hear that phone keep on ringin'
Off the wall that's all

By the time I make Oklahoma she'll be sleepin'
She'll turn softly and call my name out loud
And she'll cry just to think I'd really leave her
Tho' time and time I try to tell her so
She just didn't know I would really go.


Og kan du kutte ut med å snakke tull din nyrike PS3 ignoramus? Du skjemmer ut oss andre norske!

That guy in the interview is a global fuck. 360 I play great new games often. It took the PS3 to bring out 3 big FOR THEM tittles many years and will need way more to do so again.. So you can eat your global console you morron. As if i care what sells in Japan ffs. Have you seen what they drive? ffs... Fucking ignorants

If Sony still had FF13 then they would have trumpeted it at E3 and would point to it as a game that will help them catch up with 360.

Its no surprise Sony have made these comments, PR is basically putting a spin on things to put things in a more positive light for you and it seems for some of the elements of the SDF its worked. However anyone with any modicum of intelligence knows this is a big loss for Sony it would have given them a tonne of positive PR in the run up to its launch for a start.

"Thing is I already have a PS3 beside an Xbox360. I'm still getting FFXIII for my 360 though, cos it's a better machine to play games on. "

Isn't it stupid to decide this 1 to 1 1/2 year before the game is released, and you don't even know if it'll be any good. What about Final Fantasy XIII versus (if it still is exclusive at that time) and Final Fantasy VII remake, or God of War 3, or the ICO-team project? What about all the other PS3 exclusives like inFamous, Killzone 2, MAG, Little BIG Planet, Resistance 2, Motorstorm Pacific Rift, and other new ip's Sony may or may not reveal?

You have absolutley no arguements what so ever why you think the X360 is better for playing games? Is it the controller? Is it because you can play Halo 3 or GeoW? Games like Mass Effect and Bioshock are PS3 bound. Where is the massive list of X360 exclusive games that you're looking forward to? GeoW 2 and Fable 2? Two great looking titles btw. Please give credit where credit's due and don't dismiss thing just because you want to be fanboy or something.

You have absolutley no arguements what so ever why you think the X360 is better for playing games?

90% of multi platform titles are better on the 360. MS have (and probably will continue to) buy out most of Sony's important exclusive titles. The 360 doesn't force me to install games due to a slow drive more siuted to playing blu-ray movies.

It's all very well going on about how bright the future is for Sony, "Oh, but soon Resistance 2 and MotorStorm 2 will be out!!!", so what? What is actually out for the PS3 right now?

The 360 has the best range of fighters, racers, RPGs, JRPGs, FPSs, etc, out of all the 'next gen' systems at this moment in time. That may well change but with MS buying out pretty much anything of any importance Sony exclusive-wise, I don't see it.

@Arbiter

What on earth does HD caching have to do with forced 5 minute installs between each level and an initial forced install of 8 minutes? At least try to learn about the tech before you start spouting absolute shit you obviously know f-all about.

LO, did things in just the same way as most other JRPG's, i.e. a few different monsters in each area of the map. Only someone looking for a fault (in this regard) would find one. i.e. an insecure mule of Sony.

"Fuck off fanboy"

Lol, pot, kettle, etc, anyway this is a pretty good indication of your intellect, so perhaps I shouldn't bother with you...

"90% of multi platform titles are better on the 360."
This is not true, there are still examples of a multiplatform games in 2008 that are better on the 360, but they are further and further apart. I could say that GTA-IV is better on PS3, less pop-up and better frame-rate, or Devil May Cry 4, Battlefield: Bad Company, Burnout Paradise, NCAA Football 09, Grid, and many more, all these games are almost identical on both systems. Like I've said, you have to move on from some of the bad early ports on the PS3.

"What is actually out for the PS3 right now? "
If you don't know then you should check it out, it's not hard, all the multiplat games are ofcourse out.
There have not been many exclusives worth mentioning other than Metal Gear Solid 4, but then again the X360 has had 0 exclsuives worth mentioning in 2008?


"The 360 has the best range of fighters, racers, RPGs, JRPGs, FPSs, etc, out of all the 'next gen' systems at this moment in time."
Well, yes, there are still more games available for the X360, as it should be since it released one year in advance.

You should stop talking like there are no games for the PS3, because all new games are now release for both PS3 and X360 and they are just as good on the PS3. First party titles will of course not be bought by Microsoft. I find it funny that Microsoft has to pay large amounts of money to get games on the X360 and they're not even made X360 exclusives, they pay for multiplatform support. At least Sony are building their own range of first party developers and putting money in to their own ip's. Microsoft is like the top 4 football teams in England, buy all the best foreign players and make a great team. It works but it's not very healthy or admirable, it would be nice if Liverpool, Arsenal or Chelsea, and to some extent MAN U, actually had english players. In the same way that it would be nice if MS stopped buying games from other companies and made some of their own for a change.

@Arbiter

Like it or not, the 360 is the better gaming platform. It is more powerful, has a larger and more varied games catalog, does not force installs, has better loading times and does multiplat games better.

Whether you prefer PS3 exclusive games or not it a separate issue. Personally I think 90% of PS3 exclusives are well below acceptable standards, as are the multiplats.

"Like it or not, the 360 is the better gaming platform.
It is more powerful"
Not true.

", has a larger and more varied games catalog,"
True.

"does not force installs"
True, but it's often more an advantage than a drawback. (eg. shorter load times in-game)

" has better loading times"
Not true. Several PS3 games have better load times, Oblivion and GTA IV comes to mind.


and does multiplat games better.
"Not true"


"Whether you prefer PS3 exclusive games or not it a separate issue. Personally I think 90% of PS3 exclusives are well below acceptable standards, as are the multiplats. "

Personally I think you come across as one of the biggest fanboys ever.

GTA IV is 720p 2xAA on 360,640p 0xAA on PS3
Also 360 version has better frame rate,check Eurogamer frame rate measurements...
As for other games check Eurogamer vs articles,it might surprise you or not lol

I was just going to comment but then decided it was better not to bother....

"Also 360 version has better frame rate,check Eurogamer frame rate measurements... "
As I've found out EG is not the most trustworhty or unbiased place to check.

"As for other games check Eurogamer vs articles,it might surprise you or not lol "
Why not check IGN or even Gamespot, you'll get less biased articles and reviews, maybe you'll broaden your horizon a little bit in the process.

This is from IGN:
"For those wanting to know which version looks better, the edge goes to the PS3. The textures and framerate are comparable, but the PS3 has far less pop-in. The 360 has richer colors, but the PS3 has better anti-aliasing making it look a little cleaner. Because GTA IV can preload onto the PS3 hard drive, the in-game loads are faster. Don't worry Xbox owners, the load times are rarely more than 30 seconds and don't occur very often. The slight visual edge goes to PS3, but the 360 is no slouch. Either version will do you proud."

You X360 guys should get out a little more, fresh air and new impulses. EG is not the one and only gaming site guys, it's widely known that EG is pro X360.

"Like I've said, you have to move on from some of the bad early ports on the PS3. "

Go and read the EG face-off articles. The 360 wins hands down every single time. There are a few PS3 versions of games that equal their 360 counterparts, but it is literally only a few.

"Well, yes, there are still more games available for the X360, as it should be since it released one year in advance. "

Exactly, so you admit the 360 has the better games library, this surely obliterates your claim "You have absolutely no arguments what so ever why you think the X360 is better for playing games? " ....Erm, there's more of them to play and they are of an equal or higher quality.

"You should stop talking like there are no games for the PS3, because all new games are now release for both PS3 and X360 and they are just as good on the PS3."

No, not all of them are, in fact, most of them are not. I refer you once again to EGs 360 vs PS3 face-off articles.

Edit- Oh, I see we've gotten to the old 'EG is biased' chestnut... Zzzzzzz. If you feel the journalism here is bogus then feel free to visit another gaming site....

"it's widely known that EG is pro X360. "

Funny, in an earlier post of yours, you claim to be new to EG, so what are you talking about???

"Exactly, so you admit the 360 has the better games library, this surely obliterates your claim "You have absolutely no arguments what so ever why you think the X360 is better for playing games? " "

I didn't say better, I said larger, I still don't want old games that were released the first year the X360 was out. Large games library doesn't automatically make the X360 the better gaming platform or? I think not, it's a great gaming platform as is the PS3. That's my opinion. You rabbid X360'ers seem to downplay the PS3 every chance you get, you're to scared to admit the PS3 also is a great gaming console.

"Funny, in an earlier post of yours, you claim to be new to EG, so what are you talking about??? "

Widely known, doesn't mean within EGs own forums. It means in other forums, get it?


Edit:
Did you read the part from IGN?
Do you think EG has more cred than IGN?

"Funny, in an earlier post of yours, you claim to be new to EG, so what are you talking about???"

Kryon, he's blig_merk. Check when his account was created and his posting times vs. blig.

It's a pathetic attempt to spread his bile to the many people who have him on ignore. He's too stupid to realise that we know who he is. He's done it many times before: Headbog -> swam -> banfoi -> blig_merk

Simply use the 'hide retardation' button to ignore this new account.

@Godhather08

At the moment the 360 has the best -

Fighter - VF5 (online)

Racer - Forza 2

JRPG - Lost Odyssey

RPG - Mass Effect (or Oblivion which both systems have)

FPS - Gears of War.

This isn't my personal list of favourite games, but check metacritic/gamerankings and find me a PS3 game in each category that outscores it. You won't be able to.

When IGN starts using Beyond3d as reference and develops good technique for measuring frame rates and AA,then they might be a good site for technical comparisons.The best think about IGN now is LiveWire,it rocks seriously,i could praise it for days lol

@farticusmaximus

Aww FFS, is it really fuckin Headbog again? Jesus, doesn't that cretinous sock ever give up? :(

Fair enough Kryon, those are all good games.

As a PS3 owner I still have plenty of good games to play. I love these title:

Ratchet and Clank: ToD.
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Heavenly Sword
Metal Gear Solid 4
Motorstorm
VF5 is also for the PS3, without online.
Even GT5 Prologue though it's very short.


I'm just saying if you own a PS3 you have plenty choice and also lots of cool stuff to look forward to.

Edit:

Thanks for the support blig_merk, I agree with your post.

Maybe it's that X360'ers are so nerdy that they have to disect every game and try to find something that is better on the X360 versjon so they can feel good and have some ammo in their war against the PS3?

I thought it sucked before when a EA sports game on the 360 ran at 60 fps and the PS3 version at 30 fps, those kind of big differences are a thing of the past. Now it's down to macro differences that no one really care about.


@des
"When IGN starts using Beyond3d as reference and develops good technique for measuring frame rates and AA,then they might be a good site for technical comparisons."
Do you realise how that sounds? ;)
What about using your eyes, playing the game and rating the experience?

blig_merk

"See, being selective about what you choose to compare is easy. "

I wasn't being 'selective', I just compared the main 'genres', i.e. Fighting, Racing, RPGs, etc. I freely admit that the PS3 has the lead in regards to action platormers like R&C/Uncharted, but that's its one and only saving grace. Lets go though the rest of the titles you mention.

Best third person shooter: MGS4 - Nope, it gets 94%. The same as Gears of War. (although I don't really see MGS as a 3rd person shooter tbh)

Best baseball sports game: MLB: The Game. - Nope, it's better on 360. PS3 scores 74%. 360 scores 79%.

Best ninja game: Ninja Gaiden Sigma. - LOL, it's a tarted up port of an old XBox game. It also scores lower than the original XBox versions which I can happily play in my 360.

So even with your silly selection, you still fail...

The amount of 'oh yeah? prove it!' type comments on this story is pathetic. This is comment box, for your opinions. It's not freakin' phoenix wright.

@blig_merk

Do fuck off you cretin.

We'll all buy PS3s in 2010 or whenever the Shadow / ICO sequel or God Of War III is released, or the console is reduced to below £199.

Happy now?

Fuck off then, and grow a brain while you're at it.

blig_merk

"So neither is better then - so it can be down to preference, so how can you categorically state Gears is better?"

I didn't state Gears was better. I just said you wouldn't find a higher scoring game of the same genre on the PS3.... And you didn't...so..

"I meant MLB the Show - which scores 83 and is published by Sony, so again, you lose. "

83? So it doesn't score as well as the 360 version of Fight Night R3 then? So 360 still wins the Sports category then...

"Sigma has plenty that is not present in the XBOX version"

Listen, if you're happy playing 'remixed' five year old XBox1 titles that don't even better their originals, good for you. I already played the superior original versions many years ago on my XBox, so not really interested in Sigma, Glad you're enjoying tinkering away on it though, good for you...
Look, the PS3 has a few good exclusives, but like you admit in the ' Xbox 360 will outperform PS3 in software for years' thread, the 360 has well over double the amount of 90%+ scoring titles than the PS3 does. 12 for 360 (of which 4 are exclusive) and only 5 for the PS3 (of which only 1 is exclusive), right?

That says it all imo.

The idea of buying a console for 1 game is a bit mad, but the problem is the list of games it took to get me to buy a PS3 is dwindling to the point of lets not bother.

Going backwards games which I would have got a PS3 for are:

Ace Combat - now 360 exclusive
Final fantasy - Multi
Devil May Cry - Multi
Metal Gear Solid - PS3 exclusive

Don't get me wrong there is other games I would consider when I do eventually buy a PS3 but the main reasons are no longer there, not just that to me one of the worse hits to the PS brand was the loss of capcom, don't get me wrong there were never officaially exclusive to the PS2 but near to it. Now some of the best games to come on the 360 are from them.

"Different people have different gaming tastes, and not everyone wants to play the games the 360 scores better on."

That must mean that PS3 only owning folk must only play a total of 2 or 3 games, seeing as most of the good PS3 games (baring R&C, Uncharted & MGS4) can be played on the 360 as well and are in fact marginally better.

Look, two years ago, I would have agreed with you. When games like RE5, FFXIII, DMC4, GTAIV, etc were expected to be Sony exclusive, yeah, there would have been a reason to get a PS3 on the promise of all those hopefully great sequels to all those great PS2 games. MS has now bought out the majority of the must have 'Sony exclusives'. So really now it just comes down to whether you want a blu-ray player or not tbh...

I know I shouldn't bother but I'm bored, so....

So what if Fight Night round 3 scores better (it's on the Ps3 too, and only scored lower because it was a year older) than MLBThe show - one is baseball, the other boxing. Why would someone interested in baseball games buy Fight Night?

Oh dear, we were discussing which system has the best games in each genre. I'm assuming you don't know what 'genre' means. I'll explain, both boxing and baseball are sports, hence fall under the 'sports' genre. Understand yet?

So what if Gears scores exactly the same as MGS4? One is a 3rd person shooter, the other a stealth shooter. They pley differently

LOL, exactly, so why did you tout MGS4 as the highest ranking '3rd person shooter' on metacritic? As I said in an earlier reply to you, I don't consider MGS4 a 3rd person shooter in the traditional sense.

Don't worry Kryon he's doing his hypocrite thing again.

@SpaceMidget75

I know, it's headbog again, no one else is quite as retarded :(

Jesus! They should make school holidays illegal, otherwise you end up with people like blig_dork trying to integrate with the rest of society (and failing miserably) :(

blig_merk/Swam/Headbog (and all the other sock accounts you've made)

What is the point? You constantly contradict yourself and when you realise you've lost the argument you completely move the gaol posts to suit your views. Anyway, what you're now saying is, the 360 has the larger more varied games library with vastly more high scoring games and five times the amount of exclusives but you just want me to understand that there are people who would rather own a PS3 even though it's lost exclusivity to its main big hitters like FFXIII, DMC, RE5, etc, and is generally worse when it comes to multi-platform titles.

OK, point taken. There are Sony fanboys who will buy a Sony console even when there is little reason. OK, got it!

Sorry 'blig' but I really can't be bothered with you anymore. It's seriously getting boring man...

Seriously you lot, just put the imbecile CockSmirk on ignore, I now have and feel much better for it :)

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