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Sony dismisses exclusive GTA 360 content News

PlayStation 3 Xbox 360 News by Robert Purchese

31 March, 2008

Sony has dismissed the exclusive episodic content for the Xbox 360 version of Grand Theft Auto IV, claiming that a "large percentage" of gamers will be unwilling to fork out for it - at least to start with.

Sony America marketing man Scott Steinberg believes there is more than enough content in the launch version to keep you occupied.

"Perhaps [Microsoft will be] shipping some episodic content in the fall, but there is a whole lot of product shipping on the PS3 in April and I personally don't think there's going to be a huge percentage of folks who [will] jump into downloadable content for another price when they're still playing through the core product," Scott Steinberg told GameDaily.

"So while I do think having that brand on their system was a move for them which they felt they needed to make because they cut a big cheque for it, I think PlayStation fans know the Grand Theft Auto experience on the PS2 is how they grew up playing Grand Theft Auto.

"When you combine GTA IV with MGS 4 and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - all the exclusive content that we've got going forward - I think that goes from tipping point to shoving point for consumers who are on the fence," he added.

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decibel
31/03/08 @ 10:50
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damage control!!11one
THEGREATMADMAN
31/03/08 @ 10:50
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Bet it would be a different story if sony were getting the exclusive content
DDevil
31/03/08 @ 10:52
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Yeah, they would be singing it from the rooftops if they had the exclusive content. That's business for you though. Don't blame them either way.
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Lexx87
31/03/08 @ 10:53
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I do, Sony PR i'll say again makes me vomit.
Adam_T
31/03/08 @ 10:54
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allsonywantforchristmasisagoodgameandnomoregtamonopolyhehe
MrsPacMan
31/03/08 @ 10:55
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PS3 owners are getting episodic content for GT5 one year before the game is released and have to pay £25 for it. I bet the GTA4 dlc won't cost that much.
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31/03/08 @ 10:56
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It seems to be quite a common story on the web that people are actually using as GTAIV as the excuse to finally buy a next-gen console. My guess is that if they're buying a £200 quid console as an extra for a game, they're fairly likely to buy the DLC as well...
Garulon
31/03/08 @ 10:56
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Mmmm, these grapes are lovely and sour thanks Sony.
Moz
31/03/08 @ 10:57
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Bet it would be a different story if sony were getting the exclusive content

Of course it would, Sony would be going about how great it was (Like MS are) and Microsoft would be going on about how it's not important.

I don't think any one can say that either companies PR is any better or worse then the other

edit:/ sorry some terrible typos
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NthSimulachum
31/03/08 @ 10:57
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Ooh, the PS3 guys are talking about games, finally!
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31/03/08 @ 10:58
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"Bet it would be a different story if sony were getting the exclusive content"

Of course, and Microsoft would be the ones saying it is pointless.

DLC doesn't bother me though as I normally just wait for it to become free or don't bother with it. I will buy it on whichever system runs the game the smoothest, if they are identical then I will probably go for the PS3 version because it doesn't sound like a jet powering up.
Darren
31/03/08 @ 10:59
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Well he is right as I'd imagine a lot of Xbox 360 owners won't bother downloading the extra content for GTA IV and it isn't really much of a reason to buy it over the PS3 version since initially both games will ship with the same content.

I've opted for the Xbox 360 version of the game because I believe it'll be the best version, that decision had absolutely nothing to do with it having DLC. The GTA games have tens of hours of gameplay out of the box so unless Rockstar have cut back on it for the sake of releasing stuff as DLC - not beyond the realms of possibility in this era of digital distribution - then I cannot imagine I'd ever need DLC personally. From what I understand, the game's playing area will remain the same with the DLC anyway so it won't offer the same thing as, say, the Shivering Isles for Oblivion, which gave you a new island to play around in.
Schiraman
31/03/08 @ 11:02
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TBH I think he's probably right to some extent - I'm guessing a lot of people will never finish all the core content of GTA4 - let alone feel the need to pay to download more. Still, given a choice between the 360 version with the possibility of DLC and the PS3 version without it's not hard to see which people are more likely to go for...
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31/03/08 @ 11:02
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Surely it's nice to have the choice though? True, most people won't buy it but some will when they're ready for more action (or gamerwhore points).

I have both systems but I started with GTA on the PC so I don't mind not playing with a PS controller and will get the 360 version.
bitesize
31/03/08 @ 11:02
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I personally don't think there's going to be a huge percentage of folks who [will] jump into downloadable content for another price when they're still playing through the core product

but maybe, once i've finished the core product, it'll be nice to have some extra content to play through then?
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31/03/08 @ 11:02
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It's a fair argument. Those three franchises made their names on the PS brand and in the mainstream (i.e. not the gaming enthusiasts like you and I) Playstation is the only platform where you can play all three of those games, which is true.
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31/03/08 @ 11:03
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Agree with Darren.
At the end of the day he is right, i bet at least 70% of xbox owners wont d/l the extra content.
But its still sour grapes.
sonsonate
31/03/08 @ 11:07
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Lol, "grew up with GTA on PS2". Boy, I'm sure that a few people can recall when this game was only out on PC.
captainrentboy
31/03/08 @ 11:07
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I'm not sure whether the exclusive DLC will be a deciding factor for many folk as to which version they buy, or even which console they buy to actually play it on, I say that because bar MS shouting about it to us geeks it's not really something that's advertised a lot, I'd imagine the vaaast majority of casual gamers out there have no clue that DLC is coming to the 360.
But, I do think that when it's actually released it will be a success, as long as it's not priced stupidly high. As we've seen with the Halo 3 content, Live gamers are more than happy to spend their MS points to add a lil longevity to a game.
miiiguel
31/03/08 @ 11:08
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Rash is probably right, I mean, the "problem" with PS brand is that ppl buy the system to play 4-5 games in 10 years of its life time.
Like a collegue of work that bought a PS3 recently admited " I just want to play a footie game every two years, and shoot something every now and then, I don't realy care about games Miguel..."
SleepyMagpie
31/03/08 @ 11:10
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30% of the buyers of the 360 version paying up for it is still nice extra revenue, given the masses that will buy GTA IV. Besides, for completists the 360's will be the edition to get.

I won't dl the content immediately, that's for sure, but reading the LOOONG interview in the current EDGE mag with Sam Houser, the content sounded cool, actually.

What Sony REALLY should be worried about is whether GTA IV will run as well on the PS3, and look as good as the 360 version! And as their track record has shown, that is not certain at all!

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31/03/08 @ 11:10
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Steinberg is destined to become just as hated as Sony's previous PR mouthpieces. Everything he's come out with so far has been depressingly spintastic.
captainrentboy
31/03/08 @ 11:11
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That coleague sounds mental, by shooting things every now and again did he actually mean on a computer game?
Rash'
31/03/08 @ 11:11
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miiguel, purists are in the minority in any mainstream market.
Altrezia
31/03/08 @ 11:11
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I agree with him. I won't be buying the extra content. GTA is fun as it's a sandbox. the story lines have never 'made' the games.
Dizzy
31/03/08 @ 11:15
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It all depends on what the content is. Crackdown and Oblivion had some great new content.

The DLC of course also makes it possible for R* to release a Game of the Year edition next XMas for 360. That one might convince some people IMHO.
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lambtron
31/03/08 @ 11:16
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Well, I own both consoles and will be getting the complete version for sure. So that's at least one less sale Mr Sony Man.
Moz
31/03/08 @ 11:17
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Will be interesting to see if one of the companies gets a sponsership deal for the TV advertising. Like Sony did with burnout paradise.

As that is likely to give more of a boost then DLC. And if the adverts show both systems logo equally then the timing of the GT5 Prologe release could be better then you'd first think as thoughs adds do have a wow factor that might be enough for people who are going for GTA4 to think that it'll make a great second game.
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31/03/08 @ 11:18
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He said "going forwards". He loses.

Infact his final sentence pretty much exploded the Bullshit Bingo machine.
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31/03/08 @ 11:18
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I have just realised that I have never paid for a single piece of game add-on DLC (excluding XBLA games here)!

I think Sony are right in saying that the DLC downloads will be low in realtion to games sales, but given the choice I think people will buy the version with the optional extras in case it turns out to be worth the money. I will be. Maybe the GTA episodes will be my first purchase. Who knows?
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31/03/08 @ 11:19
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LOL at Headbog - pasting in links and grabbing at straws make you look almost as desperate as Sony. This DLC will sell bucketloads, and you know it!
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31/03/08 @ 11:22
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I'd imagine that a lot of GTA4 owners won't buy the DLC, true, but then GTA4's inevitably going to be one of the bestselling (if not the bestselling) game of this generation, so it'll still sell more DLC units than any other title's. That's nothing to be sniffed at, and claiming that it's not an issue ('didn't want the extra content anyway, poo it smells!') is just so transparently false. And that comment at the end about PS3 exclusives... well, there's a reason my PS3's been gathering dust since I got it at Christmas.
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prolific8
31/03/08 @ 11:23
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headbog just earnt a whole days commission from SDF for that post...
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31/03/08 @ 11:29
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I don't think the extra DLC will make people choose the Xbox 360 version before the PS3 version. I think the combination of better graphics and higher frame rates is what will make people choose the Xbox 360 version. :D
Moz
31/03/08 @ 11:31
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@muters, I'll bite the bate this thread is bound to go off topic into general willy waving anyway!

But firstly why are you not Playing Motorstorm or Resistance or GT5P or Uncharted or Rachet??? All brilliant games, which leads me onto another thought, a year on and i'm still playing Motorstorm and Resistance, yet theres not a single 360 exclusive launch game that i was still playing after a year. PS3 may have fewer games but what it does have keeps you coming back for more, surely that's better then forking out another £50 every month or two cos you've got all you can out of the games you have?

Anyway back to Lost Oddysee with me.
NorUraeus
31/03/08 @ 11:32
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Well I am pretty sure this actually reflects Sony's thinking. Sony probably had a specific amount of money which they set aside to buy exclusives and in the end they decided that paying to keep MGS4 and Final Fantasy exclusive was a better investment than buying exclusive GTA4 DLC. So the question is where they right; is MGS4, FF and GTA4 (without DLC) a more attractive package than just GTA4 + DLC.
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31/03/08 @ 11:33
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I cannot disagree with anything that Scott Steinberg says, per se.

I'm still buying it on the 360, and I'll be buying the DLC, too.
miiiguel
31/03/08 @ 11:33
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Anyway, if it didn't have any importance, Sony man wouldn't talk about it. I never heard this fuss with Xbox 180, so these MS guys must be doing something right this time...
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31/03/08 @ 11:34
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Well let be honest he is not gonna say " You should go for 360 version as it's got more missions" is he?

It's a difficult one though a friend of mine (big GTA fan) recently traded his 360 for PS3 and when I told him of the extra content on 360 he didn't seem to fussed, so maybe he is right and people won't care much.

I haven't got my PS3 yet but if I did I would still go for 360 version, I'll take all the extra GTA action I can get! :)
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31/03/08 @ 11:34
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hes actually right, th vast majority of gta's market are casuals, who dont do downloadable or episodic gaming

mgs4 isnt as big a draw to casuals as sony thinks though...
Les
31/03/08 @ 11:35
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In the meantime, Nintendo sells Wiis by the millions...
Anthony_UK
31/03/08 @ 11:35
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''We don't need exclusive content'' Says man who doesn't have exclusive content!

Sorry PR guys really are terrible!

Personally, I don't think it's a a system seller, but I know which versin I'll be getting........
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31/03/08 @ 11:35
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People "grew up" with GTA on PlayStation? Every GTA game is rated 18, he shouldn't be suggesting that anyone grew up with GTA (though of course many did, though hopefully many people got to experience the far superior PC versions).
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31/03/08 @ 11:37
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Oh right, yea, no one will bother.

But get this, apparently people will LOVE have virtual items in the 'Home' house

Total bs, and total damage control

@headbog

No offense, but you sound like you're on the sony payroll. If it were reversed, you'd be bitching about MS Home, and trumpeting about the sony GTA IV DLC



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31/03/08 @ 11:38
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I guess it would depend on the content. If it's 3hours "extra gameplay" i won't be bothered, but if it's "vice city" to GTA4 - definitively.
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Rash'
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NorUraeus, I think they opted for exclusive R* game rather than exclusive DLC for GTA4.
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31/03/08 @ 11:40
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"Well, I own both consoles and will be getting the complete version for sure. So that's at least one less sale Mr Sony Man."

I also own both consoles, and I've quickly reached a point where I'll take a potentially inferior PS3 version just to avoid the disc drive and fan noise of my 360 :p. Even though I also actually much prefer the 360 controller to the SixAxis.

I've only fired up my 360 once or twice over the last couple of weeks - I was instantly reminded of how much I long for the day where the PS3 game catalogue is large enough that I can pack away my 360 altogether, and only drag it out for really compelling exclusives.
It looks like it won't be too long if my previous two weeks of PS3 gaming are anything to go by.
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31/03/08 @ 11:40
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"What Sony REALLY should be worried about is whether GTA IV will run as well on the PS3, and look as good as the 360 version! And as their track record has shown, that is not certain at all!"

No they shouldn't. Comparisons to the 360 will be irrelevant in due time (and have never been relevant to the non-hardcore). For now because of the high price point the PS3 has to prove its credibility with the hardcore gamers, thus battling the 360. But as the PS3's price will go down in the future, bringing it more in reach of the non-hardcore, Sony should focus on the real opposition: Wii.
Dizzy
31/03/08 @ 11:40
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"headbog just earnt a whole days commission from SDF for that post... "

Damn. Stuff like that makes me want to pull him out of /ignore. I can use a good laugh :) But it will take more.
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31/03/08 @ 11:41
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if it runs and plays like the 360 version i will buy the ps3 one.if not and this is a big possibility i will go for the 360 version.i dont care about the dlc.

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