Sony confirms 600k PS3s sold

Out of 1 million shipped.

Sony has sold more than 600,000 of the 1 million PlayStation 3s made available in Europe last Friday, the company confirmed this afternoon.

"Yes, 600,000 is the figure for Europe," a spokesperson told Eurogamer, after the BBC reported the number yesterday without comment.

Sony has already claimed a UK record for the fastest-selling home console in history, having sold an estimated 165,000 units in the UK in its first two days on sale.

That compares very favourably to the 105,000 units Nintendo Wii sold in its first weekend and the 70,000 Xbox 360s Microsoft managed, although both companies struggled to meet demand whereas Sony, having positioned the European launch away from its American and Japanese counterparts, was able to prepare supply in advance.

The idea, Sony said ahead of launch, was to make sure it was possible for people to go into a shop on the day of launch and actually buy one. A quick survey of the crap video shop down the road revealed this is possible, but if you actually want to buy it they have to send Dave up to the stock room.

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  • BadBoyBonner #1 5 years ago

    Wow thats pretty bad.
  • McBradders #2 5 years ago

  • Mageme #3 5 years ago

    Is that bad as in slang good?
  • mkreku #4 5 years ago

    Bad? They managed to trick 600,000 people into buying an overpriced console that totally lacks interesting games so far.. coupled with a weird DVD format that noone knows if it's going to survive.. and you call it bad?

    I call it a f*cking success that I wish wouldn't have happened. THANK YOU to the 600,000 morons who decided to show Sony yet again that we Europeans love getting shafted up the arse.. and pay more for it.

    *golfclap*

    /Bitter rant
  • ryohazuki1983 #5 5 years ago

    way more than i thought they would sell.

    wonder how many the Wii would of sold if they had the stock?
  • McBradders #6 5 years ago

    Didn't you play this record before mkreku?
  • zuljin #7 5 years ago

    @BadBoyBonner
    Hmmm. XBox360 sold half a million in Europe in a month (at Christmas time too), so selling over half a mill PS3s in a weekend... I make that pretty good going.

    [link url=http://e n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_launch
    ]http://en .wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_la...[/link]
    If you're interested that is...
  • AcidSnake #8 5 years ago

    Bad?
    Sounds like a whopping number to me...
    Point is though, that they'll most likely sell very very little from now on...
    Everyone who wanted one now has one...

    So until the next big game release the only buyers they'll have will be:
    a) Parents who finally give in to that whining kid of theirs
    b) Those who have finally amassed enough cash to get it
    c) Those who have seen it at a friends house

    Not that many...
    Although unless I'm reading it wrong a successful launch no?
  • TheGrandChappo #9 5 years ago

    "The idea, Sony said ahead of launch, was to make sure it was possible for people to go into a shop on the day of launch and actually buy one"

    even after launch its still porkies O_o
  • alimokrane #10 5 years ago

    the Wii still in shortage everywhere you go .... enough said.
  • Killerbee #11 5 years ago

    Good result for Sony, but as has been said plenty of times before, it's how well it continues to sell over the next few months that is key. Sony have a fair bit of catching up to do if they want to challenge Microsoft for installed user base...
  • Tonka #12 5 years ago

  • Azazel #13 5 years ago

    zomg $ony is teh lyingz0r111 etc etc etc. /dies
  • Foxclose #14 5 years ago

  • #15 5 years ago

    mkreku does it take much effort to act like my 10 year old daughter throwing childish tantrums and calling everyone who bought a PS3 a moron?
  • BadBoyBonner #16 5 years ago

    You think that the Wii or 360 would not have have sold every single one (if they had of had one million) at their launch price?

    At say £299 or £329 the PS3 would have been in the same position as the 360 and Wii in that it would have sold through the first batch in a heart beat.

    It is not that price, and it has not sold out. The battery fiasco hit Sony hard - the console would have been much cheaper without it - and Sony would have been in a much stronger position than they are now.

    They would probably have taken market lead within 12 months. Now it is looking more like 24 to 30 months before they retake the lead - with a slender margin - all assuming that the Wii is a fad, which remains to be seen (but without many more decent games I am leaning towards the fad myself).
    Edited by 1 at 28/03/07 @ 15:10
  • jmcoo7 #17 5 years ago

    It's funny how much hatred is handed out to Sony considering how awful microsoft are with their products and its amazing how everybody forgave nintendos shafting of them over the last 15 years .
  • Laserbream #18 5 years ago

    No one has yet defined "sold". Sold to retailers or sold to consumers?
  • peteb #19 5 years ago

    Next week, 0 sold...

    Pretty much everyone who wanted one already got one, but what about average "im looking for a new console thingy perhaps" Joe? What will he think about the price etc.

    Of course this was going to happen, they had plenty of time to get the stock there.

    All is forgiven from Europe. They were right, we really don't mind the delays/cost. Who can blame them for the delays/cockups when they were right, Europe will take it up the bum and ask for seconds. :D

    GRRRRR

  • thefilthandthefury #20 5 years ago

    Been selling like hotcakes for us so it's no surprise.
  • jmcoo7 #21 5 years ago

    Well the uk figures were thru the tills same with the 78k france id imagine sold to customers myself .
  • Foxclose #22 5 years ago

    1 million shipped.

    600k SOLD!!!

    Making it the most sucessful (launch) console of all time !!! :D

    Xbots can't take that away from us!! LOL! :)

    Edited by 1 at 28/03/07 @ 15:14
  • peteb #23 5 years ago

    Making it the most sucessful console of all time !!! :D <

    how so?

    Fastest selling, yes....

    EDIT: cus the dude above edited his making my post now look crap
    Edited by 1 at 28/03/07 @ 15:15
  • hjarg #24 5 years ago

    Before the thread burts to flames, i'd like to make a comment too!

    Sony is right, they are making history. Only console that managed to have more units during launch then there is demand for. Don't get me wrong, it's a good thing! Just makes you wonder how x360 or Wii would have sold if they had managed to put the same number of consoles to sale.
  • HarryPalmer #25 5 years ago

    "Bad? They managed to trick 600,000 people into buying an overpriced console that totally lacks interesting games so far.. coupled with a weird DVD format that noone knows if it's going to survive.. and you call it bad?

    I call it a f*cking success that I wish wouldn't have happened. THANK YOU to the 600,000 morons who decided to show Sony yet again that we Europeans love getting shafted up the arse.. and pay more for it.

    *golfclap*

    /Bitter rant"

    Fact is, when your strip away all the bollocks/hype/negative shit the console is really fucking good, so while obviously some morons did by it - as is true of pretty much anything that goes on sale - most people should be very happy indeed for the time being. As for being shafted up the arse, Microsoft and Nintendo are just as guilty in different ways, shit happens, how about having to pay for 100's of pounds worth of add ons, services, uprades that really you would expect bundled in and shocking build quality (i know cos it happened to me)? or what about releasing a console with so few numbers that still over 3 months down the line no one can actually buy oney?
  • Xerx3s #26 5 years ago

    So just over half then? Isn't a console supposed to sell out completely? But then again, 1 million machines is rather unprecedented, it's a gigantic amount.
  • SeesThroughAll #27 5 years ago

    Now just get to the three million mark, so that publishers will be remotely interested.
  • Xerx3s #28 5 years ago

    Great news. Bye bye M$,
    your on your way to slipping into 3rd position ;P


    How on earth did you slip off T3H L1ST!!!
  • Nova5lag #29 5 years ago

    Well Ill ask him but I dont think he will be very keen, you see, hes already got one...
  • IMO #30 5 years ago

    "Great news. Bye bye M$,
    your on your way to slipping into 3rd position ;P

    I'll be getting my PS3 as soon as they knock either £50 or £100 off :) "

    There was me thinking the base pre-requisite for being a rabid fanboy was actually owning the console!
  • zuljin #31 5 years ago

    @BadBoyBonner
    "At say £299 or £329 the PS3 would have been in the same position as the 360 and Wii in that it would have sold through the first batch in a heart beat."
    So you're saying the PS3 would've had an EVEN better launch if it was cheaper? Yea I'd agree with that.

    "It is not that price, and it has not sold out. The battery fiasco hit Sony hard - the console would have been much cheaper without it - and Sony would have been in a much stronger position than they are now."
    You honestly think the PS3 would be much cheaper without the battery fiasco? The cost of the battery recall is absolutely nothing in comparison to the money invested into the PS3.
  • sport #32 5 years ago

    Why is it that every new console launch breaks a record?
  • Raya #33 5 years ago

    If you stock up for 4 months then you have er stock. That's what they did. Probably best in the long run as you have the console in the shops in great numbers and more launch titles. But I wish Sony wouldn't talk about it as if it was a great success. They missed the launch a year ago, then launched in Nov in part of the world and now in the rest of it. Same happened with PSP it came late but had plenty of stock so they had more to sell and bigger sales numbers....

    Why they have to go on about it like they've done something so wonderful... 4 months late is not great.

    Of course that was the die hard, we'll pay anything, PS fans. If they're still on the shelves it aint so good. Must be more than 600 k of PS diehards ...
  • Penguinzoot #34 5 years ago

    600,000,eh?

    /Darth Vader voice on
    "Most impressive ...."
  • lambtron #35 5 years ago

    "Why is it that every new console launch breaks a record?"

    Cos the industry is expanding despite what all the doomsayers tell you.
  • Xerx3s #36 5 years ago

    There was me thinking the base pre-requisite for being a rabid fanboy was actually owning the console!

    Forgot about rotj, did we?
  • BadBoyBonner #37 5 years ago

    Zuljin - are you naively looking at the physical cost of the recall rather than the Stockholders perception, wiping billions off of it's stock price and undermining overall confidence?

    It's as notorious as it is well known that the gaming division of Sony is becoming something of cash-cow, arguably supporting the rest of the company.
  • septimus #38 5 years ago

    "the Wii still in shortage everywhere you go .... enough said. "

    The only reason is that Nintendo is holding them back on purpose to keep the hype going.

    If you own one you will know it's line up sucks and there is feck all worth playing on it. Once people have one and realise this, Wii could be in trouble. So they are limiting consoles until the games actually catch up.

    It's 5+ year old crap hardware, it's not difficult for them to make. Although quite a few GAMES in Manchester have them in stock every other day. They get about 4 each :\

    Not a PS3/360/Wii fanboy, own them all, I'm just no blinkered by Nintendo's BS either.
    Edited by 1 at 28/03/07 @ 15:36
  • Weezer #39 5 years ago

    So 600,000 x $240 loss on each machine = $144 million dollar loss.

    Wowzer. That's a lot of Blu Ray discs you gotta sell to recoup that kind of cash...

    After all the negative press about the launch, I'm frankly amazed at this figure. But then we're talking about a continent with over 250 million people in it - plus a games machine that's been 'long-awaited' for over a year.
  • BadBoyBonner #40 5 years ago

    Of course I am saying the PS3 would have done better if it had have been cheaper - I am really unsure how much more clearly I could state that.

    A 60% percent sell through is disappointing for any console launch - probably only the VirtualBoy from Nintendo has done worse.

    Granted they had many more to sell, but as I said previously - I think both the Wii and 360 would have sold out of one million units. I think the PS3 would have sold one million units at 299/329.
  • Totoriko #41 5 years ago

    600,000 sold to SHOPS
    That's something they never clarify
  • Machiavel #42 5 years ago

    I predict an imminent price drop - in the other territories. We're cheerfully subsidising the rest of the world :)
  • jonsaan #43 5 years ago

    Bear in mind that an awful lot of PS2 users never bought into MS360 at all. So to them, the PS3 is absolutely amazing. They are comparing it to the PS2. Not the 360.
  • McBradders #44 5 years ago

    @Totoriko

    Sold = in consumers hands

    Shipped = "sold to shops" as you so eloquently put it.
  • CallousB #45 5 years ago

    Good launch figures but it means little.. the Gamecube held the record last gen.
  • Stormflood #46 5 years ago

    There was a time when a fanboy would just be someone that liked one particular console a little too much. Now they cry and scream and call people who buy certain consoles 'morons'. So sad.

    Do you also stand outside shops attacking people who aren't buying your brand of clothes, or kick dents in the doors of people parked outside Sainsbury's after you've shopped at Tescos?

    This rabid, childish, idiotic hatred of PS3 really has to stop. It's utterly pathetic. I'm not even going to say 'can't we get along' because I wouldn't want to get along with people who seem to be desperate to strip the fun out of gaming.

    Play on your console, enjoy your games... but if you're going to call owners of more than one console, or one particular console a moron, just fuck off.


  • Renes3 #47 5 years ago

    QUOTE:
    "
    Bad?
    Sounds like a whopping number to me...
    Point is though, that they'll most likely sell very very little from now on...
    Everyone who wanted one now has one...

    So until the next big game release the only buyers they'll have will be:
    a) Parents who finally give in to that whining kid of theirs
    b) Those who have finally amassed enough cash to get it
    c) Those who have seen it at a friends house

    Not that many...
    Although unless I'm reading it wrong a successful launch no?
    "

    Possible.
    I think PS3 will sell a lot again when Spider-Man3 the movie is released exclusivly on BluRay for an example...
  • Lonefox #48 5 years ago

    @Stormflood, couldnt have put it better myself.
  • presh #49 5 years ago

    /what stormflood said
  • DeveloperPump #50 5 years ago

    The moron name-calling thing is just the desperate rantings of the proletariat who can't afford to have all the consoles.

    Once you own all the consoles and live with their foibles on a daily basis only then can you make an informed comment.

    Until then, bother us no more and get back to your common artisan pursuits.

    That is all.

    /snicker
  • BadBoyBonner #51 5 years ago

    I think this will be very interesting times

    It is the first Sony console that is a might have, where as the other two were a must have....

    Will be nice to see Sony having to get cute again, like the did in helping transform the console from the Bedroom to the front room.

    Although they should not be given too much credit (I think they are given too much sometimes). In reality it was bound to happen, we all bought bloody houses an' would be damned if we were going to be in the bedroom playing on our game machines when we now own the whole bloody house! Lol

    So can they create their own new wave rather than ride one?
    Edited by 2 at 28/03/07 @ 15:57
  • chrisjm #52 5 years ago

    amazing, they have fleeced europe for approx £60000000 more than if they sold those in USA or Japan.

    This is why reggie says europe is more important, its full of mugs.
  • HarryPalmer #53 5 years ago

    SPECULATION ALERT!!
  • tobi #54 5 years ago

  • peteb #55 5 years ago

    How quickly did MS and Nintendo sell 100% of their launch consoles?

    Would be a fairer way to look at the speed of launch sales. (not the overall success of the launch itself though, as having more to sell is always going to be better).
  • zuljin #56 5 years ago

    @BadBoyBonner
    "Zuljin - are you naively looking at the physical cost of the recall rather than the Stockholders perception, wiping billions off of it's stock price and undermining overall confidence? It's as notorious as it is well known that the gaming division of Sony is becoming something of cash-cow, arguably supporting the rest of the company."

    Agree to last statement. The first party development makes up an incredible percentage of Sony's overall profit. However, each department still needs to be profitable. Otherwise theres no point in exploring that avenue. And no I was not looking at merely the physical cost. Billions is extreme however and I'd love know where you got that figure from. Guess what though, it still pales in comparison to figures handed out in a SCEE presentation as to cost of research & development of PS3, investment into hardware production, software development, 3rd party and 1st party support, etc.

    Agree with Stormflood... PS3's great, Xbox360 is great, Wii is great, all for their own reasons.
  • BadBoyBonner #57 5 years ago

    Zuljin - don't forget DS, PSP and PC's they're great too.
  • Rirekon #58 5 years ago

    @ Renes3

    "I think PS3 will sell a lot again when Spider-Man3 the movie is released exclusivly on BluRay for an example..."

    It won't be "exclusive" to BluRay, it just won't be on HDDVD. Ie. It will come out on DVD.
    Why? Because DVD still outsells both HD formats by a massive margin, and no studio is going to ignore a market of that scale.

    Which is why it will be a long, long, time before either format gets anywhere.
  • mazzl #59 5 years ago

    time for EG to appount a modirator to this and other pages. please EG rid us of all this fanboy lunacy name calling. i really like reading oppinions, i don't like reading shouting and swearing cry babys over a perticular console, 360, ps3 or wii.
    it's just a game.... that's what they say to football hooligans!

    to do: appoint forum moderator!
  • zuljin #60 5 years ago

    @BadBoyBonner
    Ah shucks. I like my DS, haven't gotten a PSP, and currently playing (read obsessed) with STALKER.

    Can't believe I missed out PC.

    /Hangs head in shame
  • CannonAnBall #61 5 years ago

    /readies the Blue Peter badge for Sony

    the squirrel that is sony have gathered these units up like little nuts in order for the European launch after a delay while Japan and the US are able to buy before anyone else.

    It would be a fairer if Sony did a worldwide launch - then we'd see what they're made of. I'm guessing that if that happened the Europeans would be stiffed and would have very few units to sell.

    Anyway I'm bored of all these numbers. A company can manipulate figures anyway they want to in order to look good. Did Sony harp on about figures after the launch in Japan and the US???
  • peteb #62 5 years ago

    @zuljin

    its ok, you were only talking about CONSOLES...

    there, thats better, huh?
  • Drakron #63 5 years ago

    Look at this point the PS3 is a luxury item and not a mass consumer item ... having supply outstrip demand by a 10:6 ratio is not a good thing.

    PS3 units are being sold at a loss, the idea is supply just enough to meet demand in order to cut down costs since launch is simply market presence.

    Sony is spinning this as a good thing but commercially its not, its bad.

    I could say its a good thing I can just get in a shop and get a PS3 but at a €599 price tag I simply will not ... no matter how much Sony tries to spin "this is living" it does not change the fact this is nothing but a luxury item that I do not need, when price drop to around €300 then maybe but then this will be a mass market item.
  • zuljin #64 5 years ago

    @Rirekon
    "Why? Because DVD still outsells both HD formats by a massive margin, and no studio is going to ignore a market of that scale."

    Ah but, Sony is the publisher of Spiderman 3. So yes BluRay is insignificant in comparison to DVD, but having an exclusive to the format would (to an extent)push PS3/BluRay player sales.

    Not for or against BluRay or for or against them releasing it as an exclusive (I do like Spiderman), but I can see some guy at Sony marketing going; "Hey, wouldn't it be good if..."
  • BadBoyBonner #65 5 years ago

    As for the figures, Sony Stock fell from 42E to 30E due to the battery fiasco

    If you want a quick view on how much Sony can be affected by the city read the link below.

    Plus it will also give you some indication of the massive damage a "meagre" £275m recall can have on a Multi Billion pound company.

    [link url=http: //news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2980887.stm
    ]http://ne ws.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/2980...[/link]

    Very scary, the city is very fickle and doesn't like Fk up's.
  • peteb #66 5 years ago

    >some guy at Sony marketing going; "Hey, wouldn't it be good if..."<

    i think the guys that have done that recently are no longer there :D
  • SeesThroughAll #67 5 years ago

    time for EG to appount a modirator to this and other pages. please EG rid us of all this fanboy lunacy name calling. i really like reading oppinions, i don't like reading shouting and swearing cry babys over a perticular console, 360, ps3 or wii.
    it's just a game.... that's what they say to football hooligans!

    to do: appoint forum moderator!


    Or disable comments on certain key stories. Let the fanboys kill eachother over at the forums.
    Edited by 1 at 28/03/07 @ 16:20
  • BadBoyBonner #68 5 years ago

    Can you not self moderate by selecting ignore?

    Which I guess predates Halo 3's A-Hole button?
  • Drakron #69 5 years ago

    Oh my god!!!

    The comment section is full of people opinions!!!

    [for the full story head to ...]
  • BadBoyBonner #70 5 years ago

    Is that why people post? lol

    1st poster - I think blah blah blah

    2nd - I agree

    3rd - I agree

    4th - I agree

    5th - I agree

    Can not say I fancy reading that, anyone who is outrageously rude just needs blocking

    Although one of the best threads I read on here was all about some Greek bloke bragging about shagging english slags (obviously non of them were from my family lol) but I found it quite entertaining.


  • zuljin #71 5 years ago

    @BadBoyBonner
    You do realise that link is not about the battery stock loss right? Although their mention of new technology costs was a lot less than I was told. I agree in that I'm sure the battery thing did Sony absolutely no good. After all, nothing should really explode, unless you're making explosives that is. I disgree that it made a significant impact on the PS3s price.
  • BadBoyBonner #72 5 years ago

    Yeah totally know it isn;t directly about the battery thing - just states cause an effect which I couldn't be arsed to type! lol
  • mowgli #73 5 years ago

    yes but the gamecube was the cheapest. The PS3 being the most expensive- and by alot! means that this figure is fucking impressive
  • UmBongo #74 5 years ago

    £425 x 600,000 = £255Million Pounds.

    Sheesh and you hear people complaing....
  • neosalad #75 5 years ago

    but the figure quoted isnt actual sales of PS3 is it, but what the retailers have "bought" in. so i question the accuracy of the 600K

    we've still got craploads at our place.
    we have sold some, but not many. :(
  • Goolz #76 5 years ago

  • peteb #77 5 years ago

    @BadBoyBonner

    >Although one of the best threads I read on here was all about some Greek bloke bragging about shagging english slags (obviously non of them were from my family lol) but I found it quite entertaining.<

    yea i remember that haha! nice guy.

    @neosalad

    >but the figure quoted isnt actual sales of PS3 is it, but what the retailers have "bought" in. so i question the accuracy of the 600K<

    is this true, or is it actual sales? weren't the UK figures from chart-track and actual sales to people?
  • MadMirko #78 5 years ago

    @mowgli

    No, impressive it certainly is not. A recent interview on Gamasutra with the Gamestop CEO Fontaine had some thoughts of Sony directors:

    "Offering some initial impressions of the recent launch of the PlayStation 3, Fontaine commented: “I think the summary of [recent discussions with European directors] was a very good launch, falling somewhat short of what they would determine to be a great launch."

    A great launch, like the PSP for example had, selling about 100k MORE than the PS3 did on the first weekend.

    Europe seems to be where most Sony-faithful are, considering there is nothing really outstanding available to play at this point, with Motorstorm being a good solid title and Resistance rather unspectacular and STILL claiming top spots in the UK charts this is a lot of trust Europeans showed.

    I'm curious if the comming weeks will see good releases and how many exclusives there will be.
    Edited by 1 at 28/03/07 @ 16:48
  • smelly #79 5 years ago

    (still dont believe them)
  • smelly #80 5 years ago

    "Possible.
    I think PS3 will sell a lot again when Spider-Man3 the movie is released exclusivly on BluRay for an example... "


    New slogan for the ps3:

    "IT ALSO PLAYS GAMES!!!"
  • bauhaus #81 5 years ago

  • Salvia #82 5 years ago

    Yes it's good that they've sold that many but they need to sustain those levels month after month before anyone can crow "Sony are teh winners!!!".
  • dazzaman #83 5 years ago

    I really hope they won't be embarressed in a few weeks time when someone leaks that the figures aren't quite right and the true figure is 60k

    I actually do want the number to be accurate before the comments come back!

    I quite like Sony and Microsoft at the moment, so no real favouritism, trying to persuade the wife that our 3 year old would benefit from a PS3.




  • Ihya #84 5 years ago

    That creaking noise is the sound of nails being taken out of the PS3's coffin.
  • johnDoe #85 5 years ago

    the wii is so overrated zelda is the only good game and the new mario looks terrible
  • smelly #86 5 years ago

  • MaxiSleep #87 5 years ago

    600 k sounds about right, I would bet that as others have said the online channel probably sold a disproportionate amount this launch giving the appearance of high street retail been very quiet. Presumably because people are tired of queuing.

    I do suspect that the early discounting now being seen would indicate that sony will have to cut prices sooner rather then later. When you consider the amazing fact that m$oft are apparantly delaying the 120gb xbox in europe then a quick launch of the cheaper 20gb unit could turn things around for sony rather faster then I had thought possible.

    God bless microsoft. After screwing up vista it would be just like them to screw the 360.
  • BartonFink #88 5 years ago

    Nice going by Sony would would have thunk it after last weekends tales of non existent punters at launch events.

    Great to see the likes of truckie and kazclose still barking away at the moon too.
    Edited by 1 at 28/03/07 @ 18:49
  • BartonFink #89 5 years ago

    Can you read?
    It's SOLD!!
  • zendragon #90 5 years ago

    Total failure in us and japan so lot's to sell here at a loss. now what?
  • WiseNail #91 5 years ago

    As someone waiting for a price drop I think this is pretty good news. Sony don't want vast numbers of machines sitting on shelves (especially when they are manufactured and sold at a loss), therefore I expect that the one million made and shipped in Europe must have been what they and retailers believed initial demand to be. Why incur the cost of making another 400,000 machines if you don't believe the demand is there?

    If anything, and despite their protests otherwise, I imagine they would rather have sold all of their initial shipment, with a slight scarcity factor helping to keep the initial launch hype going and create the impression of a must have item.

    Selling only 60% of your initial shipment, on something you're losing money on anyway, seems like quite a worrying position to be in to me.

    Also, comparisons with the launch of the Wii and 360 are meaningless, as you're comparing apples with pears with regards both launch month and initial stock allocation. Comparisons based on the month of April should give a better idea of how the land really lies.



  • BartonFink #92 5 years ago

    Oh the irony of calling me a Sony fanboy. LOL
  • frankthurk #93 5 years ago

    bcolt give it a rest. Everyone is reporting these are the sold numbers, and more info will come soon. Your anti-sony bias is showing.
  • Jamaicangmr #94 5 years ago

    Why can't we just be happy that the competition is much more fierce this gen which will be great for us. 600,000 units sold over a weekend is an incredible feet no matter how you slice it. So stop tryin to take away from it unless Microsoft puts food in your pot you shouldn't be takin offence to the PS3 doing well.
  • BartonFink #95 5 years ago

    wot he said, and do you have an alternative source discrediting these figures bcolter?
  • MaxiSleep #96 5 years ago

    600,000 units sold over a weekend is an incredible feet no matter how you slice it

    I dont think it is a incredible feet. Not a disaster either
  • Jamaicangmr #97 5 years ago

    @ MaxiSleep

    No am gonna stick with incredible on this one. Concidering the PS3 is the most expensive of the 3 and it was launch in March not the Xmas shoppin season. Yet it was able to pull down 600,000 in sales. Come on don't water this down.
  • AOFanboi #98 5 years ago

    Just because Microsoft and Nintendo (deliberately?) undersupplied the market (to give an impression of "sold out" success) does not mean selling 60% of the shipment is bad - especailly at near twice the price. The PS3 market and the Wii market are disjunct, so keep that out of the picture. The 360 is the competitor, and the PS3 sells despite the 360s one-year lead. Threfore the sales are good - especially in such a short time frame.
  • BartonFink #99 5 years ago

    And to that deliberately undersupplied I say bollox!! and absolute bullshite!!!
  • Scimarad #100 5 years ago

    "Total failure in us and japan..."

    You obviously have a totally different definition of total failure to the rest of us - Tell me, how would you describe the 360's performance in Japan so far?

  • #101 5 years ago

  • Jmek #102 5 years ago

    Oh the vitriol!!

    We gamers are a weird bunch aren't we? Passionate to the extreme, grown men driven to make childish and ridiculous comments regarding their hobby. Insults, accusations, mines bigger and better than yours, and so on and so forth.

    Personally I think the PS3 is a fantastic pice of kit, just too expensive for my pocket book at this stage. But there is a place there reserved for one next to my 360 as there is a space for the Wii.

    I just need a better job and a bigger side board.

  • sanctusmortis #103 5 years ago

    That's 600k people who saved up, for sure.

    See? Extra 4 months waiting = can actually be afforded!
  • The12thMonkey #104 5 years ago

    Eurogamer have pointed out in the past, along with many other sources, that launch figures are always skewed;

    To start off, I don't mean Sony are massaging the figures. I mean that they can look great for week one, but if that falls off week on week, then Sony has a problem.

    Positives: 600k sold. Good number. A good start to an install base in Europe.
    Negatives: Sony only pulled this off because the Euro launch was delayed.

    Which leads again to a positive: Sony have pleanty of stock to sell, so anyone who did fancy their luck down at the shops is going to be a happy chappy. But that leads to another negative: the rumours abound that the system just isn't selling.

    See? I can skew this anyway I like, as can everyone else. Truth is, there is no black and white to this issue, and only time will tell. We need to see the picture four, five months down the line.
    Edited by 1 at 28/03/07 @ 21:46
  • bonker #105 5 years ago

    600k fuck off!

    No way they've sold that many ...
  • pokeken #106 5 years ago

    selling 60% of your supply is SHIT.....if the PS brand is so strong and the PS3 so great then shouldn't the ratio be higher?

    You people shouldn't concentrate on the fact that its a high number but the FACT that Sony planned to sell closer to the full 1million but got nowhere close.....if I was a Sony exec then I would be sorely dissapointed with the uptake even though stock was abundant and there was little launch competition (Ninty fucked up by not flooding the European market with Wiis around the same time)

    For any "600k is alot as its expensive" should really try to think of why Sony put 1 million PS3s out there....and a hint for you, its certainly not because having loads of stock is great for everyone in the supply chain.
  • Dezm0nd #107 5 years ago

    who cares? unless you work for either company i think you lot should sort you lives out.

  • Saii #108 5 years ago

    I think Sony have been inflating their figures somewhat by "selling" a couple of consoles to each and every member of their employ for free.
  • BartonFink #109 5 years ago

    Honestly now gimmie a break.

    How many people do Sony employ worldwide?
  • mike_mgoblue #110 5 years ago

    Selling only 60% of available consoles at launch is NOT a good thing.

    The other 40% are now just like all of the systems in North America and Japan; they are sitting on store shelves collecting dust.

    All because the Playstation 3 has very few exclusive games that are decent, and all of the third-party games available for both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 are always better on the Xbox 360 in terms of graphics and online features...and the Xbox 360 versions are always released first, include rumble support, and include Online-Voice Chat features not found in the Playstation 3 versions.

    That is why the Playstation 3 only sold 60% of available systems.

    And many of those systems were bought because people were hoping for a sellout, and then they could sell their systems on Ebay for a profit.

    But, a sellout didn't come close to happening, and those Ebay people ended up LOSING money on Ebay thanks to the poor sales of the Playstation 3.
  • smelly #111 5 years ago

    >Oh the irony of calling me a Sony fanboy. LOL


    Ah.. thats what you have to learn about this site.. If you agree with someone on a topic about a certain machine.. then you're a fanboy of that machine.

    if you disagree.. then you're a fanboy of the competition.


    Basically if you ever try to argue or discuss one way or another. Rather than trying to come up with a decent response to said argument, someone will just call you a fanboy, and therefor your discussion/argument is ignored.
  • smelly #112 5 years ago

    >Everyone is reporting these are the sold numbers,

    .. Based upon estimates provided by chart-track based on what sony had told them they'd sold.

    See the problem?
  • JediMasterMalik #113 5 years ago

    @Barton - I lol'd :D

    /yet another pathetic sony comments thread
  • raven_blade2002 #114 5 years ago

    The PS3 is widely available in every shop ive been to around London. Seems like supply is above demand at the moment. Obviously those initial launch figures are that high because:
    - A significant percentage of the hardcore PS fans have already bought their consoles, price doesnt matter to them
    - Far more consoles available means larger potential sales, if the 360/Wii launched with that amount they would have sold much more at launch as well
    - Europe(UK espescially) are traditionally sony lovers...
  • KoenigMKII #115 5 years ago

    Interesting that the chart-track sampling net extends over central and western europe (+Sweden)

    Reading through the Chart-track site, it seems their signed up customers get the estimated UK console hardware shipments for the previous week the following monday by e-mail.

    This is Somewhat like the service Media create does for the Japanese market.

    It would be kind of interesting if Eurogamer let us know next monday how things went in the console wars *this week.*
    Edited by 1 at 29/03/07 @ 02:07
  • Vandrius #116 5 years ago

    Haha, last sentence in the articale gave me a laugh, thanks Eurogamer.

    FYI, I'm glad for Sony.

    And I hope MS shrivels up and dies for this 360 Elite bollocks. /bitter
  • Les #117 5 years ago

    "Bear in mind that an awful lot of PS2 users never bought into MS360 at all. So to them, the PS3 is absolutely amazing. They are comparing it to the PS2. Not the 360."

    Exactly. Compared to xbox or 360, the PS3 isn't a huge improvement (like 360 isn't much of an improvement upon the original xbox: it can push more pixels but HDD as standard has been removed). But compared to PS2, PS3 can do way more: added HDD, online as standard, dolby 5.1, BluRay movie playback, etc.
  • drumbaby #118 5 years ago

    Noone wants the PS3 at the moment in Europe, except over 600,000 people.

    But apart from that insignificant little blip, NOONE wants the PS3.
  • mkreku #119 5 years ago

    Kato: The simple fact that MS will now let me upgrade to these things...

    Ok, so please tell me how to upgrade my 360 to include a HDMI then? I'd love to have one. Oh, and I'd want to upgrade my ugly Dell-lookalike to the colour black. How do I do?
  • mkreku #120 5 years ago

    My point was: is it really a "choice" (as you call it) when they demand that you RE-BUY the entire console just to get that one option they didn't include (and denied would ever come up until two days ago!) in the "Premium" package? It sure doesn't seem like I had a choice in the matter and I must tell you that my Premium version doesn't really feel all that Premium anymore.

    Somehow I feel that Sony were the honest party in this particular case.


    HELP HELP I HATE ALL CONSOLE MANUFACTURERS!
  • kangarootoo #121 5 years ago

    @mike_mgoblue

    Thats right, you just keep on flogging hat 60% horse.

    To the rest of us, its just a metaphor for you waving a flag with "I don't understand the retail business" written on it.
  • Les #122 5 years ago

    @ Xiphos

    Your post makes no sense whatsoever, except for the "dumb" part as this goes for society in general.
  • Les #123 5 years ago

    "Where I come from you can trade things in if you want a later model."

    You do know that you still make a loss, don't you?
  • Les #124 5 years ago

    "I wish the PS3 the best of luck, but I just hope sony actually has to WORK for it, instead of selling by name brand only to hopelessly blind fans."

    Of course they'll have to work for it, with the competition being fiercer than ever. You don't get a strong brand out of nowhere and it can be gone before you know it. If people buy it for the brand alone and it doesn't deliver, they'll not go get a PS4 when that eventually arrives.

    The fanboys will always be blind but that goes for any console (or product). Fortunately, they're only a minority.