Sony clarifies UK PS Move pricing News

pretty reasonable imo,kinect are charging 130 and say its competative.lol

yup, that works for me price wise.

Will all the content of the starter disc thing be on PSN for those of us who already have cameras?

"Sony quickly sticks the boot in on Microsoft's latest PR disaster"

There, fixed the title.

£85 for waggle for just 1 player?

Even if you don't already have a camera, how do you add £50 and £25 and get £85??

Wow, Sony did something impressive. Now, all they need to do is get on with coming out with some good games.

LBP2 with Move support (for create mode) is enough for me to get the controller :)

£49.99 for a camera and new controller, plus a bunch of wide ranging game demo's for use with new camera and controller... works for me! :D

I've wanted the camera for use in other games for a while now too.

Msoft are relying on what exactly for people to believe their price comparisons....complete stupidity?

Sounds very reasonable to me! I think Move definately has the price advantage over Kinect.

Why are you splitting the component parts out like that?

@bad09

Wouldn't it be easier to get camera + controller for £50 and then the extra stick for £25 which equalled £75?

Edit: Never mind sorry didn't see your edit!

I was all about getting Natal before but realising how little space I have to move my body in front of my TV I am now starting to warm up to the PS Move.

Well, Kinect works for two players. So for a fair comparison, let's say you want one camera, two wands and two nunchucks.

That's £50 (for one camera and one wand)
plus £35 (for the second wand)
plus £50 (for the two nunchucks)

That's £135 guys, for the "Complete Move Experience".

Now, you're free to use two Dualshocks instead of the nunchucks. But, if you only have one dualshock and need to buy another, then that's another £35 or so. So it'd be at around £100 - £120 for a two-player set-up.

That said, Kinect is still shit!

Move looks far more like an impulse buy than Kinekt which costs about as much as a complete console. It's funny that the company who coined the phrase, economics of (perceived) value are using odd reasoning to justify what is a product trice the price of Sony's. Sure Kinekt may be far more advanced and all that jazz, bottom line is...when Sony asks me to don the controller (which I am not going to do) it will be three times as cheap to do so.

Of course, once the Kinenkt demo's are in store showing kinektimals in kiosks that displaying the picture at children's height. Parents and kids alike will go crazy for that whereas move is near impossible to demo in a store.

"Note that you do not need the sub-controller to play most Move games, and the DualShock 3 pad can substitute for it."

This is important, since it makes the 'jump in' price only £50, compared with £130 for Kinect. It's even more favourable if you already have a camera.

I think they've done well here, especially since arguably they have a superior product at the end of it as well.

"Well, Kinect works for two players. So for a fair comparison, let's say you want one camera, two wands and two nunchucks."

No, most casual Move games (sports champions, etc) only require one Move controller per player. The nav controller is only used for hard-core games etc. So you get far with two Move controllers alone. The Eye camera is required of course but many have this allready.

Yes. Sony's pricing is not clear. At no point anywhere in the article can I get a vague inkling of how much things cost.

waaaah waaaah tech support

Move sounds more appealing than Kinect initially as £50 is a lot less than £130 and you only need one camera (presumably) so extra players weigh in at 'just' £35 each (comparable to the Wii). Most people I'd imagine would only buy two sets of controllers for local multiplayer and the online modes will allow you to make up numbers (I assume), that plus sharing/taking it in turns (again, as people do with the Wii).

However, you look at it Kinect is overpriced unless you plan on regularly having local three or four player gaming sessions. It's not a very attractive buy for the solo online gamer for example who might want to play against Friends over Xbox LIVE but Microsoft would argue that's not who Kinect is aimed at anyway.

All that said, neither the Xbox 360 nor PS3 are as attractive to newcomers as the Wii for motion-controlled gaming since, come November, you'll likely be able to buy the complete console package, which already comes with the required motion controller(s), for a lot less than it costs for the 360 + Kinect or PS3 + Move.

Much better pricing than Kinect.
Microsoft are really putting themselves in a 'win or bust' situation. If Kinect works perfectly and is mind-blowing, then people will get on board with the price. If it fails, is of poor quality or has hardware issues then it could lose Microsoft millions.

/ Goes to pre-order PS Move

hmm. much much cheaper than Natal.

hoping Natal will get a lot of price cut......

Hopefully this will change some more peoples views on the Wii remote and nunchuck, because i'd like to see these kinds of controllers again next gen. It'll be a shame you can't use Move in the same way you would the Wii remote for racing games though.

I don't believe in any of this motion control shit, Kinetic allows you to talk to your xbox like some scary ass 2001 space odyssey experience and scan in pictures of a cock for an AI 12 year old to show back at you (well, it will if Milo ever gets released). Does Move give me this? No. But then I'm not paying £130 on the other hand either. I bought a Wii for all this gubbins and I haven't played a game on that for about 6 months now.

A controller that could be used in Resi 5, Heavy Rain, LBP2, SOCOM 4 and Killzone 3.

If it works in these games, I am sold.

Is the camera connected via USB to the PS3? If so i'm fast running out of USB sockets on my machine. Would of been nice if they'd whacked one or two on the rear too.

Kinect is more imaginative, but clearly very limited and misguided.

Move will be better in every respect. It's precision and versatility give it a huge practical advantage over Kinect and Sony is clearly presenting it as a device which has very much been created with the hardcore gamer in mind as much as the casual gamer.

For those reasons, Move>Kinect. I'd choose Move over Kinect even if the prices were reversed.

@des

Can't believe the retard is back. WTF was your comment about?!?!?!? Go back to licking windows you slack assed fuck. Iv never met somebody this balls deep on microsofts shaft. Look stay of this forum. Go look at all the "great" games coming out on kinect instead. Weird fuck

All the people adding the price of a sub controller do realize that if you have just one dual shock (comes with the PS3) you can pick up a six axis controller (with no rumble) for about £5 second hand. This can then be used if you want to play 2 player with the wand+a controller. I already have the camera so I'll probably pick up the wand and Tiger Woods to give it a try, £35 isn't a bad price to ask if you want me to jump in and give move a go!

yowzer way to kick MS when they are down.

Sony doing good things with Move!

It's ridiculously expensive for those people that need 17 wands, 8 nunchuks and 2.5 cameras.

Sony fail.

I just want these things to get released now so we can stop bleating on about it!

"Sounds very reasonable to me! I think Move definately has the price advantage over Kinect. "

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still only seems it's going to be comfy with a nunchuck though so that's 75 plus a game. 115 with a Game isn't massively cheaper even for single player.

I really don't get this "much cheaper stuff"? will lots of people honestly buy no nav and no games? let alone multi player. This on top of the most expensive console doesn't look cheap at all to me.

It's funny really because if Microsoft had got the pricing for Kinect far more sensible at sub-£60, the thing worked without any discernable lag and the camera reduced in size then it would be the most attractive local multiplayer system by virtue of not needing to hold any kind of peripheral at all. I can see how that would be very appealing to those who don't normally play games. Sadly though Microsoft seem to be doing their utmost to make Kinect as unattractive as possible to potential new customers and I think a big part of that is greed myself.

I really can't understand why the Kinect device costs £130 in the first place and not £50 or less. It's basically just a webcam that feeds data to the console where it is processed, there's no dedicated hardware chip or anything. So would someone care to enlighten me as to why Kinect costs so much?

To be honest, the bottom line is how much value a 'hardcore' player is going to get out of either K or M...
I've got both a PS3 and 360 - and it's clear that developers are favouring the Move because it's easier to integrate into not only existing titles, but more "hardcore" games - whereas Kinect is truly more of a party / kids thing...

The list I've seen so far that really impresses me (these are all Move compatible) - and I've split it up into "real" games and "party" games - tell me one game (and I don't mean "holding hands" in Fable 3 - what a gimmick - and after the disappointment of Fable 2 - that can whistle!) on the Kinect by a 3rd party - a "real" game that integrates Kinect?
I will be buying move (and I hate the Wii by the way) - but integration into things like RE5, Ruse, and Heavy Rain - beats Kinect hands down! (see what I did there?!?!) ;)

REAL GAMES

SOCOM 4: U.S. Navy SEALs (Fall 2010)
The Fight: Lights Out (Oct. 2010)
Heavy Rain (Oct. 2010)
Little Big Planet 2 (Nov. 2010)
Sly Collection (Nov. 2010)
Heroes On The Move (Working Title) (2011)
Killzone 3 (2011)
Sorcery (2011)
echochrome ii (Sept. 2010)
Hustle Kings (Oct. 2010)
The Lord of the Rings: Aragorn’s Quest – WB Games (Sept 2010)
Resident EviL 5 Gold Edition – Capcom (Sept 2010)
RUSE – Ubisoft (Sept 2010)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2010 – EA (Sept 2010)
Time Crisis: Razing Storm – Bandai Namco (Sept 2010)
NBA 2K11 – 2K Sports (Oct 2010)
Disney Tron Evolution the Video Game – Disney (Nov 2010)
Toy Story 3 – Disney (Sept 2010)

PARTY GAMES

Beat Sketcher (Fall 2010)
EyePet (Sept. 2010)
Kung Fu Rider (Sept. 2010)
Sports Champions (Sept. 2010)
Start The Party! (Sept. 2010)
Tumble (Sept. 2010)
The Shoot (Oct. 2010)
TV Superstars (Oct. 2010)
High Velocity Bowling (Oct. 2010)
PAIN (Oct. 2010)
SingStar Dance (Nov. 2010)
John Daly’s ProStroke Golf – OG International (Fall 2010)
Racquet Sports – Ubisoft (Fall 2010)
Brunswick Pro Bowling – Crave (Sept 2010)
Kung Fu Live – Virtual Air Guitar Company (Oct 2010)
Deadliest Catch: Sea of Chaos – Crave (Nov 2010)

I really can't understand why the Kinect device costs £130 in the first place and not £50 or less. It's basically just a webcam that feeds data to the console where it is processed, there's no dedicated hardware chip or anything. So would someone care to enlighten me as to why Kinect costs so much?

The UK isnt referred to as "treasure island" by the marketing teams worldwide for no reason.

We are suckers.

i though kinect looked quite impressive at first, ideal for the casual market and non gamers scared of dual analogues etc, but that was before i heard the pricing!

Im actually getting pretty tired of the phrase 'complete move experience'. As far as I know the only game that would even use the setup of 2 wands+2 nunchuks is resi 5. All move launch titles require just 1 wand per player (except the fight, I think) and many of them involve controller sharing. Im no fanboy but the combination of the move's precision, entry price and hardcore AND casual appeal gives it a significant advantage over Kinect.

Sometimes I wonder if this whole push for 3D and motion-controls isn't just a cynical way for movies and game studios to remake/re-release old stuff because they've ran out of ideas and it's easy to do that than have to make something genuinely new or innovative. Yes, we're experiencing them in new ways but we're still playing/watching the same old stuff; it doesn't make it any more exciting once the buzz has worn off, just different.

Hey, call me cynical! ;)

motion control imo is a step towards further intergration in games, i dont no why people seem so frightened of technologies like 3d and motion controls, gaming needs to constantly evolve, there are only so many game concepts that can be invented and im guess most of those went long ago, so companies are having to find new ways of getting us to want their games. i dont think it beyond the realms of possibilty that in 10 or so years games will be more like virtual world experiences than simply sitting in front of the tv and pressing buttons. There may be a place for that too, but it will be viewed much like board games are today in comparison to video games.

I'm confused.

How is this "clarifying" the pricing. These prices were all published weeks ago, all this seems to be is a repeat of an earlier announcement.

What am I missing?

I am a bit confused... every tech demo I see they are using two of the dildo controllers.


ummm, Ok.. go and look at the tech demo for Move on EG.. what does he have in both hands, oh yes the two wand/dildo things... not baiting, genuine question.. what do you need to buy for the experience shown on the tech demos?