Sony 2009 line-up is "relentless, AAA"
Man also thinks KZ2 will convert 360 fans.
Sony America's Scott Steinberg believes that the company's 2009 line-up is "relentless and AAA-quality", and says to expect "even more excellent titles at E3" in early June.
"Starting it with Killzone 2, we're going to arrest the momentum from competitors with titles like MLB 09: The Show, which some are calling the best sports title ever made. Then in summer there's inFamous and you'll get to see even more excellent titles at E3," Steinberg told GameDaily in an interview focusing on Killzone 2's launch marketing.
"If PlayStation fans thought that we'd rest on our laurels from last year and if competitors thought that we'd punched ourselves out, both are mistaken!"
Steinberg also explained Sony's marketing approach with Killzone 2 - from internal mock reviews (a pretty standard way of checking a game's health) and the decision to launch in February, to the pre-release beta testing and "Bullet" advert - and argued that the game lived up to its billing.
"We feel that Killzone 2 is a tremendous exclusive. It's an exclamation point that demonstrates the distance between the PS3 and other systems. The game is 40GB and could not be done on anything else," he said, which will probably go down well with the 360 fundamentalists.
"It will move people from the sidelines, and from what we've seen from blogs, will push 360 owners to try out the PS3. I think it's going to be a major launch for us and this historical PlayStation brand," he finished. Good luck on the comments thread. Distract yourself by reading our Killzone 2 review again.
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MLB 09: The Show, which some are calling the best sports title ever made.
These people they wouldn't be the developers by any chance?
Then in summer there's inFamous
Ok you got me interested, you've now mentioned 2 titles to look forward to for the rest of the year.
and you'll get to see even more excellent titles at E3,
Will they be coming out in 2009 though?
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What's that smell?
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Maybe it's just me, but trying to steal focus worldwide with a baseball game isn't the best plan. Sure, the US love that series, but it's going to do nearly nothing in Europe, and I think Japan have their own baseball game series they prefer.
As good as Killzone 2 is, it could be done on any other system. Heck, I bet you could get a lower res version running on Wii if you really wanted to (but shouldn't).
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And while Killzone 2 is great, I don't think it alone is enough to convince 360-only owners to dash out and buy a PS3, not when it costs £299. As it is the biggest deterent is the price of the PS3. I'm sure if it was under £200, more people would be tempted to buy one.
I think the release of God of War III, Uncharted 2 and other triple A games such as Gran Turismo 5 (whenever that comes out!) will boost the appeal of the PS3 and make it a more tempting buy. Assuming they're all great games that is. I don't think the PS3 needs another Haze or Lair personally.
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Yes, it's all so obvious now. Thanks for clearing that up, SonyMan!
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That's true of any game though. Halo 3 could run on the Wii with toned down visuals and smaller levels. Crysis could run on the 360 and PS3 with compromised graphics, etc., etc.
I guess the point is that the PS3 is the only platform that can run Killzone 2 at the visual level it does from a single disc. If it came out on the 360 it would span six DVDs which isn't really practical for a FPS, or have inferior/heavily compressed textures and audio to fit on fewer discs.
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WTF LOL!?!?!?! ROTFLPMP!
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The visuals dont show me anything that can't be done on 360. Texture quality isn't as high as some people seem to make out, its just post processed with (very good) cinema effects to give it that gritty look. What stops it fitting on one 360 disc? Video? Sorry I don't know as I haven't bothered picking the game up yet, am just going on impressions from playing at a mates.
Before you hobos get out your internet typing fingers of doom, I own both consoles, play both regularly. It's a fantastic fun enjoyable game and probably the most fun single player FPS experience out at the moment (COD4 still wipes it for online), but this "Killzone would Killzone teh 360 these graphicz are s1ck" comments are pish posh.
I thought we were on about 2009 Sony line-up anyway? Can't call it relentless or AAA without backup, Mr Steinberg/Steiner whatever you're being called this week
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Why people, especially PR stooges continue to spout dribble like "AAA Title X could never been done on out competitors console not in a million billion years!" is anyones guess...
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True that the more there are AAA titles on PS3 such as God of War III, Heavy Rain and so on the more harder it is not to tempt gamers not to get PS3, however the truth is also that if PS3 owners were able to resist getting X360 for its exclusives and say these games stinks or simply not convinced enough to get second console ....then X360 owners can say the same vice versa!
I m just glad to own all consoles got I m too addicted to the fear of missing out great games! Quite a few games still in their wrappers and must find the time...mutters...
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Can't wait for Uncharted 2 tough. I loved the first. And heavy rain and GoW3 could be awesome.
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To be honest, I would probably enjoy being able to play KZ2 on my X360.
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Excellent argument that. Well done. I give that comment 7/10.
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Killzone 2 wouldn't have got me to buy a PS3 if I didn't have one. LittleBigPlanet probably, but not KZ2. I do think it's a great game, but I can't see it converting anyone or selling systems.
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I thought the campaign was pretty standard fair for an FPS, but the visuals, the sound effects and the feel. Leaves the rest behind - imho, obviously...
I'm excited about the line up on the PS3 this year, especially Drakes Fortune 2 and God of War 3.
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Jesus Christ - the only thing Sony have been doing for the last 3 years is the bloody ROPE-A-DOPE , of course they haven't punched themselves out, they have been getting battered senseless by MS and Nintendo.
I think it may very well be the best year for Sony software wise BUT I bet the other two still shift more units.
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At which all the PC gamers let out a low snigger....
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I agree with that. For me, the pinnacle of FPS was COD4, but I genuinely think that KZ2 has raised the bar, especially in its online element.
And it looks beautiful (in all its war-torn ugliness!)
Could it be done on a 360? I don't really care to be honest. All I know is it HAS been done on the PS3, and it's glorious.
@ Rich
I like the saboteur and sniper classes (and I haven't even unlocked them yet!). They're fairly easily dealt with once you know how - eg. they both appear as red-dots on your map. If you can't stand the heat, go and shoot Covenant grunts....
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MS tend to announce their big titles very late and Sony will likely be doing the same this time to counteract any big news.
So let's all chill out for a while, ignore the industry mouthpieces, and wait and see.
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Show me a £300 PC that could produce KZ3 quality visuals and I may very well go and buy one myself!
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Comedy gold. Seriously, these Sony guys are better than Benny Hill.
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'*That means GAMES that have GAMEPLAY, so no MGS, FlowerDemo, NobiDemo, HeavyQuickTime do not count.'
Have you PLAYED any of these games?
As HeavyQuickTime demo isn't actually out yet, I suspect not.
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ROFL at MLB though - now there is a title with worldwide appeal
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What laurels from last year?
"It's an exclamation point that demonstrates the distance between the PS3 and other systems."
What? 5+ year development times vs 2 year development times?
PR muppet comments = shooting fish in a barrel. :/
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While it's not everyone's cup of tea, MLB is a very important game for the US in the same way that FIFA or F1 games are in Europe.
While KZ2 might not set the world on fire, I do know of 1 XBox360 co-worker who bought a PS3 to play it. So despite what the informed masses on these forums might think, it will shift consoles.
And as for Steinberg's comments, WTF do you expect him to say? "Our console has slightly inferior gfx to the competition, but this is pretty close to the best they could manage." Cop on, he'd be rapidly unemployed if he didn't talk up the product he's trying to sell. The MS crowd would be no different.
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'5+ year development times vs 2 year development times? '
Are you looking forward to playing Alan Wake?
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"It will move people from the sidelines, and from what we've seen from blogs, will push 360 owners to try out the PS3." - Yeah I tried it and yeah it's a great game...but I'm not going to fork out £300 just for that when the 360 has much better games and is less than half the price!
Sony need to drop the price, stop bulls**ting about their amazing line up and just come clean.!
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Microsoft do have a battle this year though, a real battle, all the talk of 2008 being the year of Sony was rather laughable. But so far Microsoft are yet to announce anything really big, well other than Halo ODST (I guess?). E3 will definetly be an interesting year this year, I expect some big announcements.
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/puts bomb under des's chair
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amount of blood == graphical fidelity == inner bliss through anger management.
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"That's because you're Scott Steinberg. Your chum Kaz Hirai also suffers from this condition."
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Yup! DNF as well.\0/
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I concur, looking very much forward to that one. The stuff I've seen so far looks brilliant.
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Anyway, despite spouting pure drivel I think we should give the guy a break. He is American after all. That aside though, I'm looking forward to the PS3 line up this year. GOW III and Heavy Rain are my two mains to keep an eye on.
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Can you explain what you mean. I genuinely interested. Would agree that unlocking the P90 on G63C + 3 frags seems to give you a huge advantage.
I'd rate myself as average at COD4. However I do hate some of the maps. Ambush springs to mind. I just don't seem to know where I am on that map. I also find, that sometimes the game just passes me by. I'll go from 10-12 kills on a map to 2 or 3 on the next just constantly dying before I can find my feet.
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Ok, the game isn't terrible obviously, but I don't think it quite deserves its crown of #1 multiplayer. I'm sure I saw an article or a piece of info a good while back that according to Live data, people were defecting back from COD to Halo 3. I've not done Halo 3, but I do remember the Halo 2 maps being cracking, wonderfully balanced.
EDIT:
I'm coming from the perspective of playing Halo 2, co-ordinated attacks and tactics on Assault and CTF. Day Of Defeat with clear front lines, flanking tactics, necessity for a variety of skills, Warhawk can be swung in your favour by thinking clever, being aware of what is happening on the map.
Whenever I play COD, it just seems like its a straight up deathmatch where all the objectives just add a few new markers on your hud for the deathmatch. The rather bitty and open maps are the fault for this, they just don't seem to be geared for natural tactical play, more like for roaming mavericks.
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On the PS3: The only thing I miss since selling mine is the ability to browse the internet whilst still lying in bed.
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Part of the lack of tactics on COD is due to the lack of players with headsets on PS3. Those with headsets just seem to want to make the rest of the group listen to their shitty rap music or whatever else is going on in the trailer park. Flanking the opposition is tough when everyone just spreads out to do their own thing.
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Show me a £300 PC that could produce KZ3 quality visuals and I may very well go and buy one myself!
Mine cost me £200 and runs Crysis nicely.
Or are you one of those muppets who buys prebuilt PCs at a 500% markup on what the parts cost?
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£200 would run Crysis for me, I'd need just a new PSU and graphics card, probably a 4870 to get good performance at 1680res
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Mr. Steinberg, please get a grip on reality. Your two largest exclusives sold way below expectations in US and hardware declined year-on-year last quarter in the US. Super support from multiplatform publishers and a gradual closing of multiplatform titel performance vs. X360 is what keep you afloat through '08 and you know it!
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"Vic20"
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oh and what this gentleman just said is an eufemism for the well-known 20?? is the year of PS3 , right ?
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What it takes for me to dual format and have both: freebie (ie prize) or £200 or less price.
PAY ATTENTION SONY MONKEY MAN.
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Brilliant!!!
/Looks for Farty, Ryze, Kyron and Calgon.
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Thats the only explanation for their rabid trolling of these forums. Honest guys, you've got a good console, just enjoy it, stop worrying about whether you've made the right choice, and get out once in a while!
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Thats the headline off CVG...the actual factual headline. EG fuelling the fanboys by saying 'convert'
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@Xerx3s
Nice try,but only one wheel fell off...
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Less of the funda....
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/looks around for Farty, Kyron, Ryze, Calgon... and Xerx3s.
Happy now?!
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Why am I not surprised.
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I dont know why some Xbotters get so hopping mad, the guy didnt say anything bad, he was just pleased with the software line up they have. To be honest considering the lack of big games known about at the moment I would have to agree. I would say we know more about PS3 games that are in development than Xbox.Perhaps MS are holding back for the shows so they can really get a big publicity blitz... just dont know.
IMHO Last year the PS3 just edged the Xbox on exlusives and caught up (finally) with many games that were finally released later than their Xbox counterparts. The only other game I really wanted to play was Fable (other than DR).. which I will get round to playing at some point.
This year I would say at the moment there are more game exclusives on the PS3 than I would want on the Xbox (Mass Effect 2 next year, but i can get that for PC). But still the year is long and there are bound to be many surprises yet, but I think Sony with KZ2 has started the stronger.
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Perhaps you would agree having some games regardless of quality is better than no games of no quality
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/Cringes
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But the Sony dude's right at least in my case. I'm interested in trying KZ2, and I think it looks like a good game. Won't make me buy a PS3, though.
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OMG! BEST! GAME! EVAR!
Big size is obviously 10/10
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KZ2 was a great way to start the year and I think Sony were wise to do so that way.
I don't think that all the Sony 'can only be done on PS3' crap does anything but de-value the brand since everybody knows it's bullshit!
I am eager to get hold of GoW III and InFamous but otherwise it's just gonna be 3rd party releases that get my attention!
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Why do you think your opinion even matters?
With the exception of Killzone 2 I think all the PS3 exclusives I've bought have been far from disappointing.
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There are more than enough PS3 games than there is enough time... but your still at school Farty, so perhaps you have the time.
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umm **cough**alan wake** cough **mass effect2** cough
ps
Looking forward to Mass Effect 2, maybe best game I have played on 360..
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Er... God Of War 3...?
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Love the AI on Elite setting... Graphics are pretty good too.
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Plenty of PS3 games this year have got me interested while the only 360 one is Alan Wake so far. Still, with most multi plats the 360 will be getting due attention.
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I ll just say....remember last year when the forumites were buzzing that 2008 was finally going to be PS3 year, I owned both consoels and I would say the year still went to X360 (Wii but actually but we ll ignore that!) despite LBP and Valkyria Chronciles being a great games and just not backed up by great sales as Sony would have liked.
I m looking forward to Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, Infamous and God of War 3 but like fuck if I m going to miss Mass Effect 2 or even Halo: ODST and Alan Wake if I think worth only having PS3! Nevermind the accepted fact by now that multi plat games will always in great majority plays better on X360.
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You're a terminator here from the future, here to destroy humanity and know the future.
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List wars=lol
Funny thing is that a multiplatform title like COD:MW2 is going to outsell all those games combined,kinda ironic with all that exclusive chest trumping.
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Surely the answer is already in that statement.
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LOL, I like the sentiment, but baseball was invented before rounders in Northamptonshire UK. Obviously we realised that the game wasn't very good, and moved on to better things like rounders and cricket.
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They started it! *pouts*
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Aaaaanyway, I'll let you get back to your deluded rantings.
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Yeah, even I can manage that...!
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'but when they are shit or multiplatform games are better'
Who say's they're shit? You?
I think I'd rather make my own mind up, TBF.
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Your opinion means nothing to anyone else.
Here's my opinion of Killzone 2 and ive played alot of fps's being 30yrs old. It is the best ive ever played, simple as that. I love COD4, COD2, Halo3, Half Life, FarCry etc but nothing has made my jaw drop every time i turn it on and play it, and i mean play it, i play it to death cus' other than the best looking game on a console i've ever seen, it DOES have awesome gameplay too you cock who has never played it.
Note, that's just my opinion and it means nothing to anyone but me...I play it and love it and no one else's fanboy crap will change that.
So why not do everyone a favour, especially the statisticians out there who reckon that gamers are likely to die younger and choke on your own self deprecating bile.
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Seriously you are the biggest wanker on this site and probably at the special unit in your school.
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I'm one of the stupid, shallow people who loved Killzone 2. The multiplayer is really really good. Maybe you should chill out a bit and try to behave like a normal person who enjoys gaming as a hobby. As it stands you sound like a bit of a tool with your strange hatred for a Japanese company that makes plastic things. Do you ever feel like life is passing you by?
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Well, the vast majority of gamers are only interested in the games they can play on the games machines they own, regardless of whether the games will be available elsewhere, or superior on another system. The only gamers who tend to argue they don't need machine X because they can play certain games on machine Y are usually those seeking to score 'fanboy points' online, and hence tend to be those who had no intention of ever purchasing machine X in the first place.
Anyway.... Scott Steinberg is saying exactly what we would expect him to say, and it's great to see the well earned growing confidence in the PS3 and it's games, however I do feel MS are keeping their lineup very close to their chest, and hence I think the 360 is going to surprise many with some of the games to be announced/released this year and beyond. We'll see.
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The PS3 is plastic? I thought it was expensive?
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You should be a games reviewer with your focus on the important things like menus! Also you do know you can change the controls don't you?
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To use an analogy that relates to the root of your name, is your well-spring of contempt so inexhaustible that it must be vented lest you explode?
Just asking, really. I'm not interested in which side is better, I'm just curious as to what drives you.
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Yeah, that was shit.
I was about to sell the game because of that, and then some clever soul told be I could go into the menus and change it.
Very clever - you can change all sorts in there - sound settings, subtitles - everything! I tell you - menus are the future!
(give me strength).
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Killzone 2 is a must buy for PS3 owner as still DO have redeeming merits, it may be just me but I still havent yet got myself to get back to KZ2 to finish the game instead I have played through RE5 twice already and infi ammo 4 guns so far. RE5 is not a better game compared to KZ2 but somehow its more fun and meaningful for me as RE series fan.
Will pull (literally) myself back to KZ2.....sometimes soon!
I m toooo used to seeing visually nice game on all platforms and thus KZ2 visually perhaps didnt steamrolled me off my armchair enough as it would have if I only had few games feather to my cap.
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Windows Vista is my guess.
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It's plainly evident how simple you are just from reading the drivel you write.
What are you trying to achieve, other than projecting yourself as the number one, insecure fanboy bedwetting little boy?
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Easy on the big words there champ. 'Hyperbole' doesn't actually fit into you sentence in any context. You probably should get a new thesaurus
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I think he's gone to look for his thesaurus...
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"@GamesConnoisseur
you mean they'll always play better on PC.
Just like mass effect 2 and alan wake will, and be cheaper too! so ill get those on PC, still no reason to by an xbox apart from halo3 reskinned, but think ill take a pass since killzone2 makes halo a bit outdated, especially visualy, halo 3 looks like turok 2 with 16mb expanison pack in comparison"
Heck! I dont dispute games look better on PC but also PS3 games will look better on PC (plus edged by X360), this is another debate entirely regarding people preferring to play on PC with monitor and sitting upright or lounged up on the comfy armchair, beer and shocking big HDTV!
I used to be a BIG PC gamer and I got shamed into stopping buying games on PC when I got piles of unopened PC games and wasted upgrading to uber ninja set up for what? To browse internet, emails, downloadings and work stiuff!
PS3 get used far more than my PC, so yes you would perhaps have less need to get X360 if you can get them on PC, but still missing out on X360 experience as for me undisputed its the best gaming machine I had the past 3 years.
Who know what future brings, but I will always largely values the time I spent on X360! However PS3 is gaining a lot in popularity for me.
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I think he's gone to find his penis. He might be a while
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Fingers crossed, he's looking for a long length of rope and a secure bannister. And yes, I'm a cunt.
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Oh dear Farti, the irony.
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You do a good enough job of embarressing yourself alone, you delusional waste of space
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Jesus Christ on a bike! You are making willy jokes now? Seriously, are you a hick from the deep south or just a stupid little school kid?
Don't try to be funny, it's embarrasing for me AND you. "
Hahaha, relax dickhead. Everybody loves cock jokes! Anyway, you kept quiet when I called out your extremely poor use of language earlier. Oh and if you develop a sense of humour, your creepy obsession with microsoft might not seem as sad
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Yeah - everyone except the cocks themselves!
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You do what a death rattle is don't you, you fuck up?
It's the sound you're making clinging on to some pathetic reasoning that their is only one good console out there in the market.
I hope for your sake, you're still in puberty.
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'does not automatically mean I love MS'
But - from looking at your review scores - the fact that you seem to have rated every game published by MS 10/10 would suggest that this is the case!
10/10 for Banjo and Kazooie? Come on - I'm sure it's a lot of fun, but 'perfect'? you're having a laugh aren't you?
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lulz
what a thread, the greatest minds in Britain all in one place at one time...remember March the 18th people, and tell your grandchildren you were there
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Surely the only reason he spends so much of his time sprouting such shit.
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How quaint.
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I own all the consoles and can safely say that he is talking out of his arse. And just by backing him up you look just as bad. Neither of you have a clue. And as much as i like gears of war, why the fuck would you compare it to LBP? Do you realise how stupid your statement is?
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Except when you look in a mirror, I suspect? Mr. Evil "KZ2-is-the-bestest-gamezorzz-evrarz" foxhound.
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Your opinion means nothing to me also, now take your fanboy comments and stick them up your fucking ass.
I've owned all 3 consoles this gen you blind twat and they all have their appeal. My wii now belongs to my mum and i traded in my 360 for a PS3 last year.
Anyone slagging off Killzone 2 is either a fanboy who hasn't played it or a fucking FANBOY who hasn't played it, simple as that, because to type out its generic and blah blah blah, and then go play Halo 3 or Gears of War is just so fucking hilariously ironic.
Only 3 games have made my jaw hit the floor this gen, and they're Killzone 2, Flower and Gears of War the original(when i had a 360), however I got bored of GOW and never completed it, but i'm on my second playthrough of Killzone 2 and it's still blowing me away. It's a masterpiece and I'd hate to think of the comments had it only come out on the 360, like GOTY, best fps ever.
So far IT IS 'GOTY' and the 'best fps eve' actually and thank god its on the console i currently own.
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If you do your research you'll find the PS3 has more, higher rated games than the Xbox 360 but I'm not here to say one is better than the other as I have both consoles and enjoy both.
Jesus, you lot of under some weird delusions. The 360 and PS3 both have great games, they both have crap games too, what the hell is your major malfunction?
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"So far IT (KZ2) IS 'GOTY' and the 'best fps eve' actually and thank god its on the console i currently own."
I find these comments equally ironic. Not saying anything against KZ2, but "best FPS ever"? So Flower made your jaw drop, KZ2 is the best FPS ever, but GOW didn't hold your interest for long enough to play through the entire thing?
Your comments are equally as LOL as those you're attempting to flame.
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Could you point us to a link verifying this? I'm not seeing the same on gamerankings or metacritic, which I'm certain are the sites you're referring to? On gamerankings, the # 10 rated 360 game is rated 92.57, while the # 10 PS3 game is 91.02 (KZ2).
Not saying I don't believe you, but it's not what I'm seeing and I'd like a little proof.
Edit: Looking further, nope. 360 has 17 titles rated over 90 and the PS3 has 12. And the 360 has more exclusives over 90 than the PS3 by 6-4. Total bollocks. You probably should have counted on someone actually doing their research.
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I've tried to be reasonable and balanced but all your fanboy bollocks is enough to make the most tolerant person blow a fuse.
I can see that both the PS3 and 360 have lots of good games, those who say otherwise clearly have some weird loyalty to MS. Same goes to PS3 fanboys.
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LOL - you don't like being proven wrong do you? Where did I say anything about liking one console or another? I simply proved your point was incorrect, because I already knew it was the second I read it. You just assume, however, that I must be a fanboy because you said something good about the PS3 and I countered that with the truth. Why not just admit that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about instead of trying to make me look bad?
"Grow up by not doing research before making wild accusations and then trying to insult the person who catches you out!" - Goodfella
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I have no problems with the PS3 or its games, however, I do have problems with the likes of people such as you.
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xbox
1 Grand Theft Auto IV - 98 (Also on PS3 & PC)
2 BioShock - 96 (Also on PS3 & PC)
3 Orange Box, The - 96 (Also on PS3 & PC)
4 Gears of War - 94 (Also on PC)
5 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The - 94 (Also on PS3 & PC)
6 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - 94 (Also on PS3 & PC)
7 Halo 3 - 94 (EXCLUSIVE)
8 Street Fighter IV - 93 (Also on PS3)
9 Gears of War 2 - 93 (EXCLUSIVE)
10 Braid - 93 (coming to PC)
PlayStation 3
1 Grand Theft Auto IV - 98 (Also on 360 & PC)
2 LittleBigPlanet - 95 (EXCLUSIVE)
3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - 94 (Also on 360 & PC)
4 BioShock - 94 (Also on 360 & PC)
5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 94 (EXCLUSIVE)
6 Street Fighter IV - 94 (Also on 360)
7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The - 93 (Also on 360 & PC)
8 Killzone 2 - 92 (EXCLUSIVE)
9 Rock Band - 92 (Also on 360)
10 Fallout 3 - 91 (Also on 360 & PC)
You can also check out this: http://www.edge-online.com/features/games- at-a-glance-xbox-360-quality. They're doing PS3 games next week...
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Seriously though if Farty was a developer I would really love to see the "amazing and great" stuff he has developed so we can critique it...haha that would be funny.. If he was a real developer then he would understand the work and effort to make a game and have some respect for it. So taking that into account he is all talk and no results. Making a dialogue box that says hello world is not a developer... stop deluding yourself farty.
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I haven't been proven wrong of anything, the PS3 has the higher rated exclusives. Did I forget to say exclusives before, I'm sorry.
I don;t know what you think I am but it sure as hell isn't someone who devotes their soul to a console. No, I like both the PS3 and 360, but you lot, you're just weird, you see the 360 as some kind of wonder machine.
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Yeah, that's pretty much the same as gamerankings or meta. Not sure if it's supposed to be telling me something?
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But even that isn't true as I showed before, soooooo....yeah. I suppose if you want to say that 360 exclusives aren't exclusives because they're on PC as well, but technically they are still 360 exclusives - because they don't appear on any other console. You can say technically they're not, but I can say otherwise and we'd probably both be correct.
And I just said I have no fucking problem with the PS3 or its games!!! WTF is wrong with you people? Wouldn't you rather make a good point AND it be the truth? Or would you rather just make a point and have it be total nonsense? I'm just trying to facilitate the former.
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Your just making yourselves look even more pathetic with every response. I'm not the one trying to be sanctimonious and impressionistic. I was just stating what i think based on my opinion, I can call whatever the fuck I want GOTY thanks.
The reason i'm telling you Count is cus YOU are trying to tell everyone else that YOU'RE opinion is the only one that matters, like that gargantuan mammoth of a cocksucker Farticus.
If you don't have anything interesting to comment on and only want to flame, i suggest you take a bath with your 360 still plugged you ignorant, insecure cunts
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But only in that instance.
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fallout 3 (360): 93
Fallout 3(ps3): 91
Bioshock (360): 96
BioshockL (ps3): 94
from metacritic"
This is what i'm talking about you cut and paste fanboy retard. Metacritic doesn't stand for shit, reviews don't stand for shit, just a guide, only personal taste and opinion matters you homunculus loser...As for Bioshock, played and completed both versions and while this was a year apart, i couldn't notice the difference. The only people who care are the wasters with no lives who scour the comparison galleries for ammo in their mythical console war.
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LOL - you're a funny guy.
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Lost and the Damned is #16 on Metacritic.
If you look at the top 20 on both platforms for exclusives, you're still left with PS3 7 - 4 360.
@ ronuds,
I was responding to your post on the previous page where you asked someone for proof to backup their story.
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/ hugs 360/PS3/PS2/PS1/PC (including SNES/MD/Speccy/Amiga/MAME emulators)/DC/Gamcube/PSP...not that waggle thingy though...that is crap
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Don't forget the Neo Geo Pocket Color (silly US spelling).
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Biased? mmmmmmm I love Halo 3, mmmmmmmm I love Mass Effect, mmmmmmmmm I love LBP, mmmmmmmm etc etc etc,
I'm not the one with the blind fanboy glasses on i'm afraid.
What number 360 you on by the way, don't tell me, your 360 never broke? Mine did, and it was replaced within 2 weeks, so what? Exactly, so what, shit happens, but you are too insecure to admit that the PS3 is an excellent console incase your 360 hears and red rings again....I have to apologise for that fanboy comment but i'm being lowered to their standards!!!!!
Your opinion on flower is as before pointless cus' you've never played it but i've shown it in action to people gamers and not, young and old, and they all say fucking awesome, cept' my Auntie, she never swears
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Where are you finding the top 20? I'm looking at gamerankings, which lists the top games separated by console and the 360 edges the PS3 pretty handily in terms of its top 10 exclusives average?
Just wondering where you're seeing your figures out of curiosity? Not because I'm a fanboy!!! lol
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says who, you? LMAO!
Sanctimonious drivel with no thread of reasoning to it, just cus' YOU say so. Grow the fuck up and get a woman, get laid and learn how to communicate you prick.
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What is it with you, because someone likes a game that doesn't feature homo-erotic, gun-toting blokes with fat arms and no necks they are to be labelled retards?
I think it's very much the case that you are the retard if that's how your mind works.
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/shivers
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My fiancee, in the lounge says, "go fuck yourself"
The mum joke makes me think, your a highschool moron and judging from when you started posting, this makes sense.
So i'm gonna to hit the ignore button now cus' I don't see the point discussing anything with someone who knows nothing yet.
Feel free to say whatever absurd insulting shit you want about me
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I just took the list from Metacritic at the side of the pages:
PS3: http://www.metac ritic.com/games/ps3/. 360: http://www.m etacritic.com/games/xbox360/.
@ CountFapula
BC became something for early adopters (thanks to people moaning about the price). I've only used it a for 2 games so far. It's a bit painful going back to PS2 games after playing the PS3, but I did miss out on God Of War 1 & 2 thanks to Unreal Tournament (UT99/2k3/2k4) and Counter-Strike: Source so I may pick them up at some point. I still have a perfectly working chipped Slimline PS2 so it's no cheese off my helmet.
Personally I think people would be better off with 4 USB ports (and possibly the card reader) than BC, but that's just my opinion.
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/shivers "
Thank god I'm not the only one who noticed his arse!
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LOL I don't think she'll mind!
As tight and pert Snake's arse is (and it does look good in that suit) I think I prefer Mrs bad09's
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Ironically, I had to lay out for PS3 for my girlfriend at Xmas after she saw mine. I got her a 360 a while before but after seeing LBP she wanted PS3 to.
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The top 20 360 games overall rank higher than the top 20 PS3, so you need to expand your search.
Also, there are 8 360 exclusives and 7 PS3 from that list?
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Braid is out on PC this month and I'm not sure if Portal is any different from the PC/PS3 versions. If so then it is 6 for the 360. Everything else is available on PS3 and/or PC.
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£200 would run Crysis for me, I'd need just a new PSU and graphics card, probably a 4870 to get good performance at 1680res
See, that's not counting a monitor (But they come separately to the PS3 too) or a keyboard and mouse (Which I swiped from my old system) and I can't run without losing framerate in any resolution higher than 1280, but it's still a system that should be able to run a Killzone 2 port fine if there was one.
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Ahhh, so you've been picking and choosing what is and isn't an exclusive as you see fit. If you can get a game on the 360 and not the PS3, or vice versa, that, sir, is an exclusive. Not "what Chess feels is an exclusive." lol
Anyway, you still need to expand your search because only searching the top 20 isn't much research. The 360's rated-over-90 list of games goes beyond 20 games, while the PS3's does not.
@ Brombeer
What are you doing to your consoles, man? I know the 360's hardware is shotty and there have even been questions lately over the PS3's quality, but I can't help think you're doing something wrong.
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But if Sony is doing what you believe that would suck.
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I don't own a 360, yet I do own Left4Dead and I could go out to buy and play Gears of War and/or Mass Effect if I really wanted to. I might even get Alan Wake if it gets finished and is any good, all without owning a 360. Now if you or whoever it was on the other page had stated console exclusives then that's a different matter, but the topic was exclusives and in the top 20, the 360 has less than the PS3. Sure you can look at games with a score of 80 and higher, but you will still find that the PS3 has more EXCLUSIVE games than the 360. It's not a vast amount more, but the PS3 has the higher count.
Going by your definition of a console exclusive, anyone could call Castlevania: Symphony of The Night a 360 exclusive game, when it was available over 10 years ago on the PS1 & Saturn (1997) and more recently the PSP.
IGN had a 10ish page article up at the end of 2008 looking at exclusives games released that year across the PS3, 360 & Wii. They concluded that the PS3 had more higher scoring exclusives than the 360, with the Wii coming 3rd. Even Gametrailers said the same thing http:// www.gametrailers.com/player/43916.html.
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I call bs on that! As for the rest of that comment, see the comment I wrote that you conveniently ignored.