Sony 2009 line-up is "relentless, AAA"

Man also thinks KZ2 will convert 360 fans.

Sony America's Scott Steinberg believes that the company's 2009 line-up is "relentless and AAA-quality", and says to expect "even more excellent titles at E3" in early June.

"Starting it with Killzone 2, we're going to arrest the momentum from competitors with titles like MLB 09: The Show, which some are calling the best sports title ever made. Then in summer there's inFamous and you'll get to see even more excellent titles at E3," Steinberg told GameDaily in an interview focusing on Killzone 2's launch marketing.

"If PlayStation fans thought that we'd rest on our laurels from last year and if competitors thought that we'd punched ourselves out, both are mistaken!"

Steinberg also explained Sony's marketing approach with Killzone 2 - from internal mock reviews (a pretty standard way of checking a game's health) and the decision to launch in February, to the pre-release beta testing and "Bullet" advert - and argued that the game lived up to its billing.

"We feel that Killzone 2 is a tremendous exclusive. It's an exclamation point that demonstrates the distance between the PS3 and other systems. The game is 40GB and could not be done on anything else," he said, which will probably go down well with the 360 fundamentalists.

"It will move people from the sidelines, and from what we've seen from blogs, will push 360 owners to try out the PS3. I think it's going to be a major launch for us and this historical PlayStation brand," he finished. Good luck on the comments thread. Distract yourself by reading our Killzone 2 review again.

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  • keyboardmonkey #1 3 years ago

    Just like 2008's line up was also AAA's

    MLB 09: The Show, which some are calling the best sports title ever made.
    These people they wouldn't be the developers by any chance?

    Then in summer there's inFamous
    Ok you got me interested, you've now mentioned 2 titles to look forward to for the rest of the year.

    and you'll get to see even more excellent titles at E3,
    Will they be coming out in 2009 though?
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 08:33
  • des #2 3 years ago

    360 has fundamentalists?
  • the_dudefather #3 3 years ago

    'Good luck on the comments thread.', yeah right, this kind of story to Eurogamers is like a story about pedophile immigrants (on YOUR tax money) to Sun readers
  • Fernando #4 3 years ago

    hope so = competition wonderful thing
  • muscleblade #5 3 years ago

  • BartonFink #6 3 years ago

    '40G and could not be done on anything else'

    What's that smell?
  • Wastelander #7 3 years ago

    They should sack Scott Steinberg and replace him with Scott Steiner.
  • BartonFink #8 3 years ago

    As for relentless about the only thing that's relentless is the stream of PR bullshine that comes from Sony execs.
  • Weezer #9 3 years ago

    I dread to even say it but, KZ2 ain't all that. Very nice, but it's an 8 out of 10 for me. Sony's straw-clutching grows ever bolder.
  • DFawkes #10 3 years ago

    "Starting it with Killzone 2, we're going to arrest the momentum from competitors with titles like MLB 09: The Show"

    Maybe it's just me, but trying to steal focus worldwide with a baseball game isn't the best plan. Sure, the US love that series, but it's going to do nearly nothing in Europe, and I think Japan have their own baseball game series they prefer.

    As good as Killzone 2 is, it could be done on any other system. Heck, I bet you could get a lower res version running on Wii if you really wanted to (but shouldn't).
  • Darren #11 3 years ago

    Well MLB 09: The Show is, indeed, excellent but I doubt it will do anything for PS3 sales in Europe since (a) it's baseball; and (b) it isn't officially released over here anyway.

    And while Killzone 2 is great, I don't think it alone is enough to convince 360-only owners to dash out and buy a PS3, not when it costs £299. As it is the biggest deterent is the price of the PS3. I'm sure if it was under £200, more people would be tempted to buy one.

    I think the release of God of War III, Uncharted 2 and other triple A games such as Gran Turismo 5 (whenever that comes out!) will boost the appeal of the PS3 and make it a more tempting buy. Assuming they're all great games that is. I don't think the PS3 needs another Haze or Lair personally. ;)
  • Kaspar #12 3 years ago

    Aaah, so when they said that 2008 would be the Year of the PS3, what they <a>actually[/i] meant was 2009.

    Yes, it's all so obvious now. Thanks for clearing that up, SonyMan!
  • Darren #13 3 years ago

    @DFawkes - "As good as Killzone 2 is, it could be done on any other system. Heck, I bet you could get a lower res version running on Wii if you really wanted to (but shouldn't)."

    That's true of any game though. Halo 3 could run on the Wii with toned down visuals and smaller levels. Crysis could run on the 360 and PS3 with compromised graphics, etc., etc.

    I guess the point is that the PS3 is the only platform that can run Killzone 2 at the visual level it does from a single disc. If it came out on the 360 it would span six DVDs which isn't really practical for a FPS, or have inferior/heavily compressed textures and audio to fit on fewer discs. ;)
  • DonnieDarko333 #14 3 years ago

    Nothing at GDC then Sony? Thanks for hinting.
  • Tonka #15 3 years ago

    "If PlayStation fans thought that we'd rest on our laurels from last year"
    WTF LOL!?!?!?! ROTFLPMP!
  • Bealsy #16 3 years ago

    @ Darren

    The visuals dont show me anything that can't be done on 360. Texture quality isn't as high as some people seem to make out, its just post processed with (very good) cinema effects to give it that gritty look. What stops it fitting on one 360 disc? Video? Sorry I don't know as I haven't bothered picking the game up yet, am just going on impressions from playing at a mates.

    Before you hobos get out your internet typing fingers of doom, I own both consoles, play both regularly. It's a fantastic fun enjoyable game and probably the most fun single player FPS experience out at the moment (COD4 still wipes it for online), but this "Killzone would Killzone teh 360 these graphicz are s1ck" comments are pish posh.

    I thought we were on about 2009 Sony line-up anyway? Can't call it relentless or AAA without backup, Mr Steinberg/Steiner whatever you're being called this week
  • Ninja_Tino #17 3 years ago

    I'm still plodding through the Killzone multiplayer, but that's exactly what I'm doing - plodding. It's just isn't that... exciting. Still, a good game. I'm holding my breath for Unchartered 2!
  • Buztafen #18 3 years ago

    Killzone 2 is a visually arresting game yeah, im half way through atm, but i played Gears 2 for the first time in a while yesterday....and it still made me say "Damn this is a good looking game!"......whilst chainsawing a Giant Worms heart out!! :)

    Why people, especially PR stooges continue to spout dribble like "AAA Title X could never been done on out competitors console not in a million billion years!" is anyones guess...
  • NotSoSlim #19 3 years ago

    People need to chill a bit. He basically said KZ2 will make people try the PS3 not buy one. Fair statement i think because where does he say convert 360 owners?
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 09:15
  • smernicki #20 3 years ago

    what i love about marketing is how they manage to steer clear of any hyperbole whatsoever
  • GamesConnoisseur #21 3 years ago

    Yeah we need to chill out, and X360 owners trying PS3 is all good so they can see what the fuss is about and likewise PS3 die hard owners should be brassed up enough to be able to touch X360 and see that its wont mutate them to chavs!

    True that the more there are AAA titles on PS3 such as God of War III, Heavy Rain and so on the more harder it is not to tempt gamers not to get PS3, however the truth is also that if PS3 owners were able to resist getting X360 for its exclusives and say these games stinks or simply not convinced enough to get second console ....then X360 owners can say the same vice versa!

    I m just glad to own all consoles got I m too addicted to the fear of missing out great games! Quite a few games still in their wrappers and must find the time...mutters...
  • Negotiator #22 3 years ago

    One reason Heavy Rain.
  • menage #23 3 years ago

    I bought Killzone. does look pretty but fails to pull me in due total non involvement in the campaign proceedings. Terrible story and pacing (playing Visari Square for 25 minutes with wave after wave of enemies spawning felt more like Space Invaders to me than an exciting 2009 videogame). It get's boring real fast.

    Can't wait for Uncharted 2 tough. I loved the first. And heavy rain and GoW3 could be awesome.
    Edited by 2 at 18/03/09 @ 09:31
  • Spekingur #24 3 years ago

    KZ2 is probably the best FPS game you can get.. on the PS3. If you own a PS3 then you should probably get KZ2. But saying KZ2 is 40gb because it needs it is just BS. If it really takes up 40gb on the BR disc then it's probably just because of some config for the BR drive itself (reading speed). The reason why KZ2 wouldn't work on the X360 is basically (a) programming diffirences and (b) set-up of the game - since it'll probably require an install. Since it has been designed with PS3 in mind from the beginning.

    To be honest, I would probably enjoy being able to play KZ2 on my X360.
  • chubster2010 #25 3 years ago

    'Borezone 2 will convert 360 owners? I really dont think so. It may appease the shallow and easily led PS3 owners but 360 gamers prefer a bit of gameplay with their graphics. '

    Excellent argument that. Well done. I give that comment 7/10.
  • Rich72 #26 3 years ago

    the more i play KZ2 online, the less i like it. who ever thought up the cloaked sniper or the saboteur class are idiots. spawn raping horror of a multiplayer game tbh. i quite like the single player but it's nothing THAT special in the graphics dept. all looks a bit fuzzy to me.
  • DFawkes #27 3 years ago

    Don't get me wrong, there are games that can convert. I played Goldeneye at a friends house, and ended up buying an N64 for it. I played Halo, and wanted an Xbox. I played Final Fantasy VII, and bought a Playstation.

    Killzone 2 wouldn't have got me to buy a PS3 if I didn't have one. LittleBigPlanet probably, but not KZ2. I do think it's a great game, but I can't see it converting anyone or selling systems.
  • el_pollo_diablo #28 3 years ago

    This bloke makes me ashamed to be a PS3 owner quite frankly.
  • Dave52 #29 3 years ago

    I'm finding the KZ2 multiplayer to be fantastic. I'm loving the way it rolls around the different modes and it is tough. If someone gets you in their sites, you'd better kill them quick. The graphics are astounding and I'm yet to see any lagging at all.

    I thought the campaign was pretty standard fair for an FPS, but the visuals, the sound effects and the feel. Leaves the rest behind - imho, obviously...

    I'm excited about the line up on the PS3 this year, especially Drakes Fortune 2 and God of War 3.
  • Rich72 #30 3 years ago

    you never played a 360 then Dave?
  • BadBoyBonner #31 3 years ago

    "if competitors thought that we'd punched ourselves out, both are mistaken!" LOL

    Jesus Christ - the only thing Sony have been doing for the last 3 years is the bloody ROPE-A-DOPE , of course they haven't punched themselves out, they have been getting battered senseless by MS and Nintendo.

    I think it may very well be the best year for Sony software wise BUT I bet the other two still shift more units.
    Edited by 3 at 18/03/09 @ 09:59
  • Sunyavadin #32 3 years ago

    "The game is 40GB and could not be done on anything else,"

    At which all the PC gamers let out a low snigger....
  • chubster2010 #33 3 years ago

    'I thought the campaign was pretty standard fair for an FPS, but the visuals, the sound effects and the feel. Leaves the rest behind '

    I agree with that. For me, the pinnacle of FPS was COD4, but I genuinely think that KZ2 has raised the bar, especially in its online element.

    And it looks beautiful (in all its war-torn ugliness!)

    Could it be done on a 360? I don't really care to be honest. All I know is it HAS been done on the PS3, and it's glorious.

    @ Rich
    I like the saboteur and sniper classes (and I haven't even unlocked them yet!). They're fairly easily dealt with once you know how - eg. they both appear as red-dots on your map. If you can't stand the heat, go and shoot Covenant grunts.... ;)
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 10:02
  • Wastelander #34 3 years ago

    None of the companies will announce anything major or new 'till GDC or E3 anyway.
    MS tend to announce their big titles very late and Sony will likely be doing the same this time to counteract any big news.

    So let's all chill out for a while, ignore the industry mouthpieces, and wait and see.
  • chubster2010 #35 3 years ago

    @ Sunyavadin
    Show me a £300 PC that could produce KZ3 quality visuals and I may very well go and buy one myself!
  • Kryon #36 3 years ago

    "Sony America's Scott Steinberg believes that the company's 2009 line-up is "relentless and AAA-quality"

    Comedy gold. Seriously, these Sony guys are better than Benny Hill.
    Edited by 3 at 18/03/09 @ 10:05
  • chubster2010 #37 3 years ago

    @ Farti.
    '*That means GAMES that have GAMEPLAY, so no MGS, FlowerDemo, NobiDemo, HeavyQuickTime do not count.'

    Have you PLAYED any of these games?

    As HeavyQuickTime demo isn't actually out yet, I suspect not.
    Edited by 2 at 18/03/09 @ 10:09
  • Rich72 #38 3 years ago

    the multi player is simply not good chubster despite what you want it to be, hampered by awful controls. COD is far far better and yes, i love my halo :oP
  • lambtron #39 3 years ago

    Much to my surprise I quite liked Killzone 2. I prefer the MP to SP. It's very, very simple but it's pretty well done.

    ROFL at MLB though - now there is a title with worldwide appeal ;).
  • Moz #40 3 years ago

    As far as PR spin goes this is actually quite nicely refrained.
  • Xerx3s #41 3 years ago

    "If PlayStation fans thought that we'd rest on our laurels from last year"

    What laurels from last year?

    "It's an exclamation point that demonstrates the distance between the PS3 and other systems."

    What? 5+ year development times vs 2 year development times?

    PR muppet comments = shooting fish in a barrel. :/
  • oreillymj #42 3 years ago

    Scott Steinberg is head honcho for SCEA which is why he's talking to a US magazine about a baseball game.
    While it's not everyone's cup of tea, MLB is a very important game for the US in the same way that FIFA or F1 games are in Europe.

    While KZ2 might not set the world on fire, I do know of 1 XBox360 co-worker who bought a PS3 to play it. So despite what the informed masses on these forums might think, it will shift consoles.

    And as for Steinberg's comments, WTF do you expect him to say? "Our console has slightly inferior gfx to the competition, but this is pretty close to the best they could manage." Cop on, he'd be rapidly unemployed if he didn't talk up the product he's trying to sell. The MS crowd would be no different.
  • Widge #43 3 years ago

    This thread isn't complete, we haven't had a list war yet! Foam on!
  • Rich72 #44 3 years ago

    he's right in a way as i bought a PS3 with Killzone in mind. it has left a slightly bitter taste though but my DVD's do look great.... thanks Sony
  • chubster2010 #45 3 years ago

    @ Xerx
    '5+ year development times vs 2 year development times? '

    Are you looking forward to playing Alan Wake?
  • arctic360 #46 3 years ago

    "The game is 40GB and could not be done on anything else," - That's just bad coding and compression, it's not the best looking game so why is it so big?

    "It will move people from the sidelines, and from what we've seen from blogs, will push 360 owners to try out the PS3." - Yeah I tried it and yeah it's a great game...but I'm not going to fork out £300 just for that when the 360 has much better games and is less than half the price!

    Sony need to drop the price, stop bulls**ting about their amazing line up and just come clean.!
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 10:27
  • jonsaan #47 3 years ago

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  • Widge #48 3 years ago

    COD is terrible, it has some of the worst multiplayer maps I have ever encountered and relies utterly on XP ocd as its hook.
  • Monkey_Puncher #49 3 years ago

    Sony has got a strong line-up this year, can't deny that. If Heavy Rain gets a release that's another game t add to the list, but there's still not enough there to even tempt me to spend £300 on their console. Sony's consoles have never really had anything to get me excited, I like the look of Drake's Fortune, would definetly pick those games up. But beyond those not even the Blueray player gets me interested, of which I'm probably gonna get myself one in the next 6 months gets.

    Microsoft do have a battle this year though, a real battle, all the talk of 2008 being the year of Sony was rather laughable. But so far Microsoft are yet to announce anything really big, well other than Halo ODST (I guess?). E3 will definetly be an interesting year this year, I expect some big announcements.
  • Xerx3s #50 3 years ago

    "360 has fundamentalists? "

    /puts bomb under des's chair
  • Xerx3s #51 3 years ago

    "Killzone 2 is a visually arresting game yeah, im half way through atm, but i played Gears 2 for the first time in a while yesterday....and it still made me say "Damn this is a good looking game!"......whilst chainsawing a Giant Worms heart out!! :) "

    amount of blood == graphical fidelity == inner bliss through anger management.
  • Kryon #52 3 years ago

    "Doctor, doctor, I feel like a total retard!"

    "That's because you're Scott Steinberg. Your chum Kaz Hirai also suffers from this condition."
  • Xerx3s #53 3 years ago

    "Are you looking forward to playing Alan Wake? "

    Yup! DNF as well.\0/
  • tonixuk #54 3 years ago

    I own both consoles and do not believe Killzone 2 lived up to its promise. I sold it after only one week. Poor controls, average single player campaign and badly implemented multiplayer (ie no friends invite system) etc.
  • Xerx3s #55 3 years ago

    farticusmaximus: That's a bit over the top, don't you think? No need to insult other people.
  • Xerx3s #56 3 years ago

    "One reason Heavy Rain."

    I concur, looking very much forward to that one. The stuff I've seen so far looks brilliant.
  • M_of_the_sys #57 3 years ago

    Poor, deluded Scott Steiner. When will he realise that the blinkers are a packaged feature with 360 fanboys?

    Anyway, despite spouting pure drivel I think we should give the guy a break. He is American after all. That aside though, I'm looking forward to the PS3 line up this year. GOW III and Heavy Rain are my two mains to keep an eye on.
  • oreillymj #58 3 years ago

    @Widge - COD4 is the first online shooter I've played as I'm not a PC gamer. Briefly tried SOCOM2 on PS2 and hated.

    Can you explain what you mean. I genuinely interested. Would agree that unlocking the P90 on G63C + 3 frags seems to give you a huge advantage.

    I'd rate myself as average at COD4. However I do hate some of the maps. Ambush springs to mind. I just don't seem to know where I am on that map. I also find, that sometimes the game just passes me by. I'll go from 10-12 kills on a map to 2 or 3 on the next just constantly dying before I can find my feet.
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 10:52
  • Widge #59 3 years ago

    Very bad maps, I realised the most enjoyable bit of the game for me was when the XP screen came up, not the actual gameplay itself.

    Ok, the game isn't terrible obviously, but I don't think it quite deserves its crown of #1 multiplayer. I'm sure I saw an article or a piece of info a good while back that according to Live data, people were defecting back from COD to Halo 3. I've not done Halo 3, but I do remember the Halo 2 maps being cracking, wonderfully balanced.

    EDIT:

    I'm coming from the perspective of playing Halo 2, co-ordinated attacks and tactics on Assault and CTF. Day Of Defeat with clear front lines, flanking tactics, necessity for a variety of skills, Warhawk can be swung in your favour by thinking clever, being aware of what is happening on the map.

    Whenever I play COD, it just seems like its a straight up deathmatch where all the objectives just add a few new markers on your hud for the deathmatch. The rather bitty and open maps are the fault for this, they just don't seem to be geared for natural tactical play, more like for roaming mavericks.
    Edited by 2 at 18/03/09 @ 10:49
  • Bilbo_bobbins #60 3 years ago

    thats all we need, a load of young 360 fanboys coming to the ps3.
  • Apostle #61 3 years ago

    I actually enjoy reading the comments thread more than the articles here on Eurogamer. That's not to knock the writers, but I often skip straight to the comments. Gives me plenty of chuckles and snortles.

    On the PS3: The only thing I miss since selling mine is the ability to browse the internet whilst still lying in bed.
  • Zebula77 #62 3 years ago

    KZ2 is good, but I feel Uncharted 2 will be the defining excusive PS3 title.
  • Rich72 #63 3 years ago

    at least in COD if i want to shoot someone in the head i can and if i miss, it's my own fault. not hope that the game has recognized that i have shot them or wrestle with the controls and hope i hear that "plink" that i've killed the other player only to drop down dead myself at the same time.... bad, bad, bad.
  • Rich72 #64 3 years ago

    i don't play COD any more by the way, i'm a paid up member of the halowhores
  • oreillymj #65 3 years ago

    @Widge - Strange you mention Warhawk as being better then COD from a tactical POV. I've found that it only takes 1 or 2 of the opposition spawn camping your base to make the game very unpleasant and one sided. It's very tempting to quit a game when you get into the respawn-die cycle. On the other hand, there's nothing more satisfying then getting a mine kill, 2 or 3 mins after planting them on a jeep or Warhawk.

    Part of the lack of tactics on COD is due to the lack of players with headsets on PS3. Those with headsets just seem to want to make the rest of the group listen to their shitty rap music or whatever else is going on in the trailer park. Flanking the opposition is tough when everyone just spreads out to do their own thing.
  • layleeloo #66 3 years ago

    Zebula77, I agree. I like KZ2, although considering the 2 year old uncharted still batters most things on my 360, I cant wait for uncharted 2 and think that will probably be a console shfter more then KZ2. After all, I bought my first PS3 for uncharted. Just like i got another wii for Madworld today and my 360 for PGR3 at launch. Its usually single games that move consoles but whcih games they are will always be open for debate
  • Sunyavadin #67 3 years ago

    @ Sunyavadin
    Show me a £300 PC that could produce KZ3 quality visuals and I may very well go and buy one myself!


    Mine cost me £200 and runs Crysis nicely.
    Or are you one of those muppets who buys prebuilt PCs at a 500% markup on what the parts cost?
  • Widge #68 3 years ago

    £200, are you lumping case, ram, PSU, CPU, optical drives, HDDs, the works in with that?

    £200 would run Crysis for me, I'd need just a new PSU and graphics card, probably a 4870 to get good performance at 1680res
  • toa_boa #69 3 years ago

    "If PlayStation fans thought that we'd rest on our laurels from last year"

    Mr. Steinberg, please get a grip on reality. Your two largest exclusives sold way below expectations in US and hardware declined year-on-year last quarter in the US. Super support from multiplatform publishers and a gradual closing of multiplatform titel performance vs. X360 is what keep you afloat through '08 and you know it!
  • CHAZBIGPOTATO #70 3 years ago

    Lol @ Josaan

    "Vic20"
  • miiiguel #71 3 years ago

    Yet, I bought yet another 360, the Resi 5 special edition one. Looks very nice though.

    oh and what this gentleman just said is an eufemism for the well-known 20?? is the year of PS3 , right ?
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 11:41
  • sanctusmortis #72 3 years ago

    What it takes for me to bin my 360: irrecoverable destruction of my GamerTag and hardware, nothing less.
    What it takes for me to dual format and have both: freebie (ie prize) or £200 or less price.

    PAY ATTENTION SONY MONKEY MAN.
  • Rash' #73 3 years ago

    "360 fundamentals"

    :D

    Brilliant!!!

    /Looks for Farty, Ryze, Kyron and Calgon.
  • Xerx3s #74 3 years ago

    WHAT ABOUT ME?! >:/
  • TopKatt #75 3 years ago

    Some Xbox owners on here are really insecure about their console!

    Thats the only explanation for their rabid trolling of these forums. Honest guys, you've got a good console, just enjoy it, stop worrying about whether you've made the right choice, and get out once in a while!
  • Rash' #76 3 years ago

    OK. Where's that list!
  • NotSoSlim #77 3 years ago

    Killzone 2 'will push 360 owners to try PS3'

    Thats the headline off CVG...the actual factual headline. EG fuelling the fanboys by saying 'convert'
  • des #78 3 years ago

    NPD is tomorrow so Sony is feeling the heat,must damage control it somehow.

    @Xerx3s
    Nice try,but only one wheel fell off...:p
  • El-Dev #79 3 years ago

    Jesus the 360 owners are an angry lot, must be down to their superiority complex.
  • RustyBullet #80 3 years ago

    Dont get me wrong KZ2 is a good game not AAA the controls are a bag of shite. The multiplayer isnt grabbing me by the balls either. I would still rather play COD4 on the 360 with a bunch of mates that all have headsets, comunication is the main aspect of a team based game that PS3 users still are not taking full advantage of.
  • polaris70 #81 3 years ago

    I bought my 360 for one game only - Mass Effect, and I wasn't disappointed. I have yet to purchase a PS3, make of that what you will.
  • drumbaby #82 3 years ago

    "360 has fundamentalists? "

    Less of the funda....
  • Rash' #83 3 years ago

    J1GSAW, not quite what I had in mind, but sure it could be fun...

    /looks around for Farty, Kyron, Ryze, Calgon... and Xerx3s.

    Happy now?! :p
  • Rash' #84 3 years ago

    Brombeer, "I hate the PS3..."

    Why am I not surprised.
  • Widge #85 3 years ago

  • miiiguel #86 3 years ago

    I'm sure I do not share this feeling with Ballmer but I would have no pleasure at all in "converting" some PS3 users that I read here to meet them over Live. Let them stay, please ? pretty ?
  • makeamazing #87 3 years ago

    The main reason i got my Xbox was for Dead Rising... and version 2 of that is coming to the PS3 as well.

    I dont know why some Xbotters get so hopping mad, the guy didnt say anything bad, he was just pleased with the software line up they have. To be honest considering the lack of big games known about at the moment I would have to agree. I would say we know more about PS3 games that are in development than Xbox.Perhaps MS are holding back for the shows so they can really get a big publicity blitz... just dont know.

    IMHO Last year the PS3 just edged the Xbox on exlusives and caught up (finally) with many games that were finally released later than their Xbox counterparts. The only other game I really wanted to play was Fable (other than DR).. which I will get round to playing at some point.

    This year I would say at the moment there are more game exclusives on the PS3 than I would want on the Xbox (Mass Effect 2 next year, but i can get that for PC). But still the year is long and there are bound to be many surprises yet, but I think Sony with KZ2 has started the stronger.
  • Rash' #88 3 years ago

    I said once and i'll say it again, Microsoft appear to have lost track of their 1st party output.
  • makeamazing #89 3 years ago

    Hmm Fart being a muppet again... what a surprise..

    Perhaps you would agree having some games regardless of quality is better than no games of no quality :D... but lets be honest with Farty he's probably typing a response at school lunchtime.... you had better hurry up before your classes start.
  • Rash' #90 3 years ago

    No farty, that's the power of your stupidity.
  • Rash' #91 3 years ago

    Could you imagine if he was a school boy!!!

    /Cringes
  • ronuds #92 3 years ago

    It would be nice if MS at least gave us something to look forward to starting now, though!

    But the Sony dude's right at least in my case. I'm interested in trying KZ2, and I think it looks like a good game. Won't make me buy a PS3, though.
  • cherryuk #93 3 years ago

    Nah Killzone ain't no COD4, but might be worth cheap purchase down the line
  • Dizzy #94 3 years ago

    >The game is 40GB

    OMG! BEST! GAME! EVAR!

    Big size is obviously 10/10
  • Rash' #95 3 years ago

    Sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of witty...
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 13:47
  • DevilsNeverCry #96 3 years ago

    Well, it is this guys job to big up Sony so can't blame him for doing his job.

    KZ2 was a great way to start the year and I think Sony were wise to do so that way.

    I don't think that all the Sony 'can only be done on PS3' crap does anything but de-value the brand since everybody knows it's bullshit!

    I am eager to get hold of GoW III and InFamous but otherwise it's just gonna be 3rd party releases that get my attention!
  • Goodfella #97 3 years ago

    They wait for their exclusives and when they arrive and are without exception incredibly dissapointing

    Why do you think your opinion even matters?

    With the exception of Killzone 2 I think all the PS3 exclusives I've bought have been far from disappointing.
  • makeamazing #98 3 years ago

    The 360 has supplied, and continues to supply, more quality games than there is time in the day to play them.

    There are more than enough PS3 games than there is enough time... but your still at school Farty, so perhaps you have the time.
  • Vanmunt #99 3 years ago

    Microsoft simply don't need to announced their first party stuff 18-36 months before it comes out just to try and woo potential buyers. It was like this last year, and yet they ruined Sony then as well.

    umm **cough**alan wake** cough **mass effect2** cough




    ps

    Looking forward to Mass Effect 2, maybe best game I have played on 360..
  • RickHard #100 3 years ago

    What about an Eurogamer article about the games to look forward to this year ?
  • Dave52 #101 3 years ago

    farti: "It's just another bunch of titles that will fail to interest the gaming community"

    Er... God Of War 3...?
  • onyxbox #102 3 years ago

    KZ2 does indeed rock IMO.

    Love the AI on Elite setting... Graphics are pretty good too.
  • VandelayIndustries #103 3 years ago

    I bought and enjoyed many PS3 exclusives last year (a few of them underrated gems like Valkyrie Chronicles and Motor Storm 2). By contrast I only got two 360 exclusives, Gears 2 and Fable 2, the latter being the disappointment of the year for me.

    Plenty of PS3 games this year have got me interested while the only 360 one is Alan Wake so far. Still, with most multi plats the 360 will be getting due attention.
  • GamesConnoisseur #104 3 years ago

    Still yes I would fully agree that Sony is much better at bigging up their games and MS seem too quiet at the moment, keeping cards close to chest can be useful but not if you are causing some of your supporter to ponder if worth owing PS3 afterall!

    I ll just say....remember last year when the forumites were buzzing that 2008 was finally going to be PS3 year, I owned both consoels and I would say the year still went to X360 (Wii but actually but we ll ignore that!) despite LBP and Valkyria Chronciles being a great games and just not backed up by great sales as Sony would have liked.

    I m looking forward to Uncharted 2, Heavy Rain, Infamous and God of War 3 but like fuck if I m going to miss Mass Effect 2 or even Halo: ODST and Alan Wake if I think worth only having PS3! Nevermind the accepted fact by now that multi plat games will always in great majority plays better on X360.
  • Goodfella #105 3 years ago

    Yes farty, if you say it enough it might come true.
  • Xerx3s #106 3 years ago

    "Why am I not surprised. "

    You're a terminator here from the future, here to destroy humanity and know the future.
  • des #107 3 years ago

    Ah list wars,save them for tomorrow sony fans...
    List wars=lol

    Funny thing is that a multiplatform title like COD:MW2 is going to outsell all those games combined,kinda ironic with all that exclusive chest trumping.
  • Xerx3s #108 3 years ago

    "Haha, it seems Jigsaw has taken over from Apologie on hilarious bullshit list duty! "

    Surely the answer is already in that statement.
  • Xerx3s #109 3 years ago

    Rash': I've been trying to make fun of the stupidity going around here (my own included) but you on the other hand would do good to take a look in the mirror. If this was about throwing stones, you most certainly wouldn't be allowed to throw the first one.
  • Xerx3s #110 3 years ago

    But then that is an old argument.
  • M_of_the_sys #111 3 years ago

    This thread is getting more mature by the minute.
  • jmg123 #112 3 years ago

    @MLB isn't a basketball game, then, it's rounders? They should spell this stuff out when it comes to obscure colonial derivative sporting endeavours.

    LOL, I like the sentiment, but baseball was invented before rounders in Northamptonshire UK. Obviously we realised that the game wasn't very good, and moved on to better things like rounders and cricket.
  • TopKatt #113 3 years ago

    @M_of_the_sys

    They started it! *pouts*
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 14:58
  • TopKatt #114 3 years ago

    Yeah, go on farti, save up your pocket money and get a copy.
  • Goodfella #115 3 years ago

    Yes farty, even my drug addled mind can construct a coherant post without having to edit it. ;)

    Aaaaanyway, I'll let you get back to your deluded rantings.



  • Dave52 #116 3 years ago

    "Yes farty, even my drug addled mind can construct a coherant post without having to edit it. ;) "

    Yeah, even I can manage that...!
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 15:18
  • chubster2010 #117 3 years ago

    @ Farti
    'but when they are shit or multiplatform games are better'
    Who say's they're shit? You?

    I think I'd rather make my own mind up, TBF.
  • PrivateJoker #118 3 years ago

    @farticus...lmao, your death rattle is deafening and you have absolutely nothing to say other than your retarded fanboy opinion, As per fucking usual!

    Your opinion means nothing to anyone else.

    Here's my opinion of Killzone 2 and ive played alot of fps's being 30yrs old. It is the best ive ever played, simple as that. I love COD4, COD2, Halo3, Half Life, FarCry etc but nothing has made my jaw drop every time i turn it on and play it, and i mean play it, i play it to death cus' other than the best looking game on a console i've ever seen, it DOES have awesome gameplay too you cock who has never played it.

    Note, that's just my opinion and it means nothing to anyone but me...I play it and love it and no one else's fanboy crap will change that.

    So why not do everyone a favour, especially the statisticians out there who reckon that gamers are likely to die younger and choke on your own self deprecating bile.

  • PrivateJoker #119 3 years ago

    @farticus...i think you should go to your nearest mental health unit and section yourself.

    Seriously you are the biggest wanker on this site and probably at the special unit in your school.

    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 15:41
  • metalmike25 #120 3 years ago

    @Farticus

    I'm one of the stupid, shallow people who loved Killzone 2. The multiplayer is really really good. Maybe you should chill out a bit and try to behave like a normal person who enjoys gaming as a hobby. As it stands you sound like a bit of a tool with your strange hatred for a Japanese company that makes plastic things. Do you ever feel like life is passing you by?
  • Yaz #121 3 years ago

    @J1GSAW who wrote "you mean they'll always play better on PC. Just like mass effect 2 and alan wake will, and be cheaper too! so ill get those on PC..."

    Well, the vast majority of gamers are only interested in the games they can play on the games machines they own, regardless of whether the games will be available elsewhere, or superior on another system. The only gamers who tend to argue they don't need machine X because they can play certain games on machine Y are usually those seeking to score 'fanboy points' online, and hence tend to be those who had no intention of ever purchasing machine X in the first place. ;)

    Anyway.... Scott Steinberg is saying exactly what we would expect him to say, and it's great to see the well earned growing confidence in the PS3 and it's games, however I do feel MS are keeping their lineup very close to their chest, and hence I think the 360 is going to surprise many with some of the games to be announced/released this year and beyond. We'll see.
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 15:49
  • Dizzy #122 3 years ago

    >hatred for a Japanese company that makes plastic things

    The PS3 is plastic? I thought it was expensive? ;)
  • metalmike25 #123 3 years ago

    @xXBrombeerXx

    You should be a games reviewer with your focus on the important things like menus! Also you do know you can change the controls don't you?
  • Sulphur #124 3 years ago

    What I don't understand, dear fart, is if you hate Sony and the PS3 so much, then why do you even take the trouble to visit and comment on each and every thread on them?

    To use an analogy that relates to the root of your name, is your well-spring of contempt so inexhaustible that it must be vented lest you explode?

    Just asking, really. I'm not interested in which side is better, I'm just curious as to what drives you.
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 15:51
  • chubster2010 #125 3 years ago

    'Controls are the worst ever: punching with L1 come on!?'

    Yeah, that was shit.

    I was about to sell the game because of that, and then some clever soul told be I could go into the menus and change it.

    Very clever - you can change all sorts in there - sound settings, subtitles - everything! I tell you - menus are the future!

    (give me strength).
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 15:52
  • GamesConnoisseur #126 3 years ago

    Killzone 2 is good and not a turd as Farti tried to portray it as, but man to say its the top example of fps!! I m sorry that taking it a bit too far, as the flaws are quite well trodded out by now, control, forgettable story and respawnings to name a few.

    Killzone 2 is a must buy for PS3 owner as still DO have redeeming merits, it may be just me but I still havent yet got myself to get back to KZ2 to finish the game instead I have played through RE5 twice already and infi ammo 4 guns so far. RE5 is not a better game compared to KZ2 but somehow its more fun and meaningful for me as RE series fan.

    Will pull (literally) myself back to KZ2.....sometimes soon!

    I m toooo used to seeing visually nice game on all platforms and thus KZ2 visually perhaps didnt steamrolled me off my armchair enough as it would have if I only had few games feather to my cap.
  • chubster2010 #127 3 years ago

    'I'm just curious as to what drives you.'

    Windows Vista is my guess.
  • PrivateJoker #128 3 years ago

    @farticus, my vocabulary is excellent by the way. I don't presume to be more intelligent than you, i just know that i am.

    It's plainly evident how simple you are just from reading the drivel you write.

    What are you trying to achieve, other than projecting yourself as the number one, insecure fanboy bedwetting little boy?
  • metalmike25 #129 3 years ago

    @Farticus

    Easy on the big words there champ. 'Hyperbole' doesn't actually fit into you sentence in any context. You probably should get a new thesaurus
  • chubster2010 #130 3 years ago

    @ metalmike25
    I think he's gone to look for his thesaurus...
  • GamesConnoisseur #131 3 years ago

    J1GSAW

    "@GamesConnoisseur

    you mean they'll always play better on PC.

    Just like mass effect 2 and alan wake will, and be cheaper too! so ill get those on PC, still no reason to by an xbox apart from halo3 reskinned, but think ill take a pass since killzone2 makes halo a bit outdated, especially visualy, halo 3 looks like turok 2 with 16mb expanison pack in comparison"

    Heck! I dont dispute games look better on PC but also PS3 games will look better on PC (plus edged by X360), this is another debate entirely regarding people preferring to play on PC with monitor and sitting upright or lounged up on the comfy armchair, beer and shocking big HDTV!

    I used to be a BIG PC gamer and I got shamed into stopping buying games on PC when I got piles of unopened PC games and wasted upgrading to uber ninja set up for what? To browse internet, emails, downloadings and work stiuff!

    PS3 get used far more than my PC, so yes you would perhaps have less need to get X360 if you can get them on PC, but still missing out on X360 experience as for me undisputed its the best gaming machine I had the past 3 years.

    Who know what future brings, but I will always largely values the time I spent on X360! However PS3 is gaining a lot in popularity for me.
  • metalmike25 #132 3 years ago

    @chubster2010

    I think he's gone to find his penis. He might be a while
  • PrivateJoker #133 3 years ago

    @chubster2010 & @metalmike25

    Fingers crossed, he's looking for a long length of rope and a secure bannister. And yes, I'm a cunt.
  • chubster2010 #134 3 years ago

    Yeah - Windows Vista, definitely.
  • PrivateJoker #135 3 years ago

    "and poke fun at some of the braindead tools that lurk on this forum"

    Oh dear Farti, the irony.
  • PrivateJoker #136 3 years ago

    @Farti

    You do a good enough job of embarressing yourself alone, you delusional waste of space
  • metalmike25 #137 3 years ago

    "I think he's gone to find his penis. He might be a while"

    Jesus Christ on a bike! You are making willy jokes now? Seriously, are you a hick from the deep south or just a stupid little school kid?

    Don't try to be funny, it's embarrasing for me AND you. "

    Hahaha, relax dickhead. Everybody loves cock jokes! Anyway, you kept quiet when I called out your extremely poor use of language earlier. Oh and if you develop a sense of humour, your creepy obsession with microsoft might not seem as sad
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 16:13
  • chubster2010 #138 3 years ago

    ' Everybody loves cock jokes'

    Yeah - everyone except the cocks themselves!
  • PrivateJoker #139 3 years ago

    @farti

    You do what a death rattle is don't you, you fuck up?

    It's the sound you're making clinging on to some pathetic reasoning that their is only one good console out there in the market.

    I hope for your sake, you're still in puberty.
  • rawburger #140 3 years ago

  • Rodchenko #141 3 years ago

    Post-voting mechanism a la Joystiq please. Tired of the same annoying twat trying to derail every second discussion on here.
  • metalmike25 #142 3 years ago

    I'm an Xbox 360 owner and weirdos like farticus don't speak for all of us. It just makes the rest of us look bad. I couldn't give a shit about which console is better, im my opinion they are basically the same. Also this crap about the PS3 having a bad games catalogue is a myth. I can only name about 2 xbox exclusives that I've actually bought. Please provide evidence if you're going to throw these 'facts' around
  • chubster2010 #143 3 years ago

    @ Mrfartipants
    'does not automatically mean I love MS'

    But - from looking at your review scores - the fact that you seem to have rated every game published by MS 10/10 would suggest that this is the case!

    10/10 for Banjo and Kazooie? Come on - I'm sure it's a lot of fun, but 'perfect'? you're having a laugh aren't you?
    Edited by 1 at 19/03/09 @ 09:47
  • BillyBrush #144 3 years ago

    Banjo Nuts and Bolts is a gem the size of which you'll never comprehend, pick a different game

    lulz

    what a thread, the greatest minds in Britain all in one place at one time...remember March the 18th people, and tell your grandchildren you were there

    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 17:35
  • El-Dev #145 3 years ago

    I have come to a conclusion, Farticus is a eunuch and was castrated by a Sony employee.

    Surely the only reason he spends so much of his time sprouting such shit.
  • metalmike25 #146 3 years ago

    Hahaha, lets cure cancer while we're all together!
  • Kujata #147 3 years ago

    The PS3 does games now?

    How quaint.
  • metalmike25 #148 3 years ago

    @CountFapula

    I own all the consoles and can safely say that he is talking out of his arse. And just by backing him up you look just as bad. Neither of you have a clue. And as much as i like gears of war, why the fuck would you compare it to LBP? Do you realise how stupid your statement is?
  • des #149 3 years ago

    Sony fans are becoming new Nintendo fans,not surprising at all
  • ronuds #150 3 years ago

    "I've never seen such blind dedication and allegiance in my whole life o.O"

    Except when you look in a mirror, I suspect? Mr. Evil "KZ2-is-the-bestest-gamezorzz-evrarz" foxhound. :p
  • Goodfella #151 3 years ago

    Somewhere, some bridges are missing their trolls.
  • PrivateJoker #152 3 years ago

    @countfapula

    Your opinion means nothing to me also, now take your fanboy comments and stick them up your fucking ass.

    I've owned all 3 consoles this gen you blind twat and they all have their appeal. My wii now belongs to my mum and i traded in my 360 for a PS3 last year.

    Anyone slagging off Killzone 2 is either a fanboy who hasn't played it or a fucking FANBOY who hasn't played it, simple as that, because to type out its generic and blah blah blah, and then go play Halo 3 or Gears of War is just so fucking hilariously ironic.

    Only 3 games have made my jaw hit the floor this gen, and they're Killzone 2, Flower and Gears of War the original(when i had a 360), however I got bored of GOW and never completed it, but i'm on my second playthrough of Killzone 2 and it's still blowing me away. It's a masterpiece and I'd hate to think of the comments had it only come out on the 360, like GOTY, best fps ever.

    So far IT IS 'GOTY' and the 'best fps eve' actually and thank god its on the console i currently own.
  • Goodfella #153 3 years ago

    Count Fapula, what is all this crap on the PS3 you and your minions speak of?

    If you do your research you'll find the PS3 has more, higher rated games than the Xbox 360 but I'm not here to say one is better than the other as I have both consoles and enjoy both.

    Jesus, you lot of under some weird delusions. The 360 and PS3 both have great games, they both have crap games too, what the hell is your major malfunction?
  • ronuds #154 3 years ago

    "and then go play Halo 3 or Gears of War is just so fucking hilariously ironic. "

    "So far IT (KZ2) IS 'GOTY' and the 'best fps eve' actually and thank god its on the console i currently own."

    I find these comments equally ironic. Not saying anything against KZ2, but "best FPS ever"? So Flower made your jaw drop, KZ2 is the best FPS ever, but GOW didn't hold your interest for long enough to play through the entire thing?

    Your comments are equally as LOL as those you're attempting to flame.
  • ronuds #155 3 years ago

    "If you do your research you'll find the PS3 has more, higher rated games than the Xbox 360 but I'm not here to say one is better than the other as I have both consoles and enjoy both."

    Could you point us to a link verifying this? I'm not seeing the same on gamerankings or metacritic, which I'm certain are the sites you're referring to? On gamerankings, the # 10 rated 360 game is rated 92.57, while the # 10 PS3 game is 91.02 (KZ2).

    Not saying I don't believe you, but it's not what I'm seeing and I'd like a little proof.

    Edit: Looking further, nope. 360 has 17 titles rated over 90 and the PS3 has 12. And the 360 has more exclusives over 90 than the PS3 by 6-4. Total bollocks. You probably should have counted on someone actually doing their research. :p
    Edited by 2 at 18/03/09 @ 19:27
  • Goodfella #156 3 years ago

    Grow up ronuds. If you really base your existance on what console is better then it's time to give up on life right now. Same goes for Farty and co.

    I've tried to be reasonable and balanced but all your fanboy bollocks is enough to make the most tolerant person blow a fuse.

    I can see that both the PS3 and 360 have lots of good games, those who say otherwise clearly have some weird loyalty to MS. Same goes to PS3 fanboys.
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 19:35
  • ronuds #157 3 years ago

    "Grow up ronuds. If you really base your existance on what console is better then it's time to give up on life right now. Same goes for Farty and co."

    LOL - you don't like being proven wrong do you? Where did I say anything about liking one console or another? I simply proved your point was incorrect, because I already knew it was the second I read it. You just assume, however, that I must be a fanboy because you said something good about the PS3 and I countered that with the truth. Why not just admit that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about instead of trying to make me look bad?

    "Grow up by not doing research before making wild accusations and then trying to insult the person who catches you out!" - Goodfella

  • ronuds #158 3 years ago

    I forgot to finish my point: Whether or not I'm a fanboy doesn't lessen or dimish the fact that you're talking out your arse. However, I never chose alliance with the PS3 or 360 in my comments - only with the facts, which is normally something swept under the rug in these parts.

    I have no problems with the PS3 or its games, however, I do have problems with the likes of people such as you.
  • chessboxer #159 3 years ago

    @ ronuds (this was lifted from another site).

    xbox
    1 Grand Theft Auto IV - 98 (Also on PS3 & PC)
    2 BioShock - 96 (Also on PS3 & PC)
    3 Orange Box, The - 96 (Also on PS3 & PC)
    4 Gears of War - 94 (Also on PC)
    5 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The - 94 (Also on PS3 & PC)
    6 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - 94 (Also on PS3 & PC)
    7 Halo 3 - 94 (EXCLUSIVE)
    8 Street Fighter IV - 93 (Also on PS3)
    9 Gears of War 2 - 93 (EXCLUSIVE)
    10 Braid - 93 (coming to PC)


    PlayStation 3

    1 Grand Theft Auto IV - 98 (Also on 360 & PC)
    2 LittleBigPlanet - 95 (EXCLUSIVE)
    3 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare - 94 (Also on 360 & PC)
    4 BioShock - 94 (Also on 360 & PC)
    5 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots - 94 (EXCLUSIVE)
    6 Street Fighter IV - 94 (Also on 360)
    7 Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The - 93 (Also on 360 & PC)
    8 Killzone 2 - 92 (EXCLUSIVE)
    9 Rock Band - 92 (Also on 360)
    10 Fallout 3 - 91 (Also on 360 & PC)

    You can also check out this: http://www.edge-online.com/features/games- at-a-glance-xbox-360-quality. They're doing PS3 games next week...
  • makeamazing #160 3 years ago

    You do know that CountMuppet and Farty are related.... unfortunately it seems the whole family are coming this way :(

    Seriously though if Farty was a developer I would really love to see the "amazing and great" stuff he has developed so we can critique it...haha that would be funny.. If he was a real developer then he would understand the work and effort to make a game and have some respect for it. So taking that into account he is all talk and no results. Making a dialogue box that says hello world is not a developer... stop deluding yourself farty.
  • Goodfella #161 3 years ago

    Wow, Count Fapula and Ronuds are the new 360 tag team.

    I haven't been proven wrong of anything, the PS3 has the higher rated exclusives. Did I forget to say exclusives before, I'm sorry.

    I don;t know what you think I am but it sure as hell isn't someone who devotes their soul to a console. No, I like both the PS3 and 360, but you lot, you're just weird, you see the 360 as some kind of wonder machine.

  • ronuds #162 3 years ago

    @ chessboxer

    Yeah, that's pretty much the same as gamerankings or meta. Not sure if it's supposed to be telling me something?

  • ronuds #163 3 years ago

    "I haven't been proven wrong of anything, the PS3 has the higher rated exclusives. Did I forget to say exclusives before, I'm sorry."

    But even that isn't true as I showed before, soooooo....yeah. I suppose if you want to say that 360 exclusives aren't exclusives because they're on PC as well, but technically they are still 360 exclusives - because they don't appear on any other console. You can say technically they're not, but I can say otherwise and we'd probably both be correct.

    And I just said I have no fucking problem with the PS3 or its games!!! WTF is wrong with you people? Wouldn't you rather make a good point AND it be the truth? Or would you rather just make a point and have it be total nonsense? I'm just trying to facilitate the former.
  • PrivateJoker #164 3 years ago

    @ronuds & count

    Your just making yourselves look even more pathetic with every response. I'm not the one trying to be sanctimonious and impressionistic. I was just stating what i think based on my opinion, I can call whatever the fuck I want GOTY thanks.

    The reason i'm telling you Count is cus YOU are trying to tell everyone else that YOU'RE opinion is the only one that matters, like that gargantuan mammoth of a cocksucker Farticus.

    If you don't have anything interesting to comment on and only want to flame, i suggest you take a bath with your 360 still plugged you ignorant, insecure cunts

  • ronuds #165 3 years ago

    Well, I suppose if you meant that the PS3's highest rated exclusive (LBP) is rated 1 pt. higher than the 360's highest rated exclusive (Gears) then you'd be correct.

    But only in that instance.
  • PrivateJoker #166 3 years ago

    "gta lost and the damned (360 EXCLUSIVE): 90
    fallout 3 (360): 93
    Fallout 3(ps3): 91
    Bioshock (360): 96
    BioshockL (ps3): 94

    from metacritic"

    This is what i'm talking about you cut and paste fanboy retard. Metacritic doesn't stand for shit, reviews don't stand for shit, just a guide, only personal taste and opinion matters you homunculus loser...As for Bioshock, played and completed both versions and while this was a year apart, i couldn't notice the difference. The only people who care are the wasters with no lives who scour the comparison galleries for ammo in their mythical console war.
  • ronuds #167 3 years ago

    @ PrivateJoker

    LOL - you're a funny guy.




  • chessboxer #168 3 years ago

    @ CountFapula

    Lost and the Damned is #16 on Metacritic.

    If you look at the top 20 on both platforms for exclusives, you're still left with PS3 7 - 4 360.

    @ ronuds,

    I was responding to your post on the previous page where you asked someone for proof to backup their story.
  • bad09 #169 3 years ago

    you guys are funny :)

    / hugs 360/PS3/PS2/PS1/PC (including SNES/MD/Speccy/Amiga/MAME emulators)/DC/Gamcube/PSP...not that waggle thingy though...that is crap ;)
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 20:08
  • chessboxer #170 3 years ago

    @ bad09

    Don't forget the Neo Geo Pocket Color (silly US spelling).
  • PrivateJoker #171 3 years ago

    @count

    Biased? mmmmmmm I love Halo 3, mmmmmmmm I love Mass Effect, mmmmmmmmm I love LBP, mmmmmmmm etc etc etc,

    I'm not the one with the blind fanboy glasses on i'm afraid.

    What number 360 you on by the way, don't tell me, your 360 never broke? Mine did, and it was replaced within 2 weeks, so what? Exactly, so what, shit happens, but you are too insecure to admit that the PS3 is an excellent console incase your 360 hears and red rings again....I have to apologise for that fanboy comment but i'm being lowered to their standards!!!!!

    Your opinion on flower is as before pointless cus' you've never played it but i've shown it in action to people gamers and not, young and old, and they all say fucking awesome, cept' my Auntie, she never swears ;-)
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 20:19
  • ronuds #172 3 years ago

    @ chessboxer

    Where are you finding the top 20? I'm looking at gamerankings, which lists the top games separated by console and the 360 edges the PS3 pretty handily in terms of its top 10 exclusives average?

    Just wondering where you're seeing your figures out of curiosity? Not because I'm a fanboy!!! lol
  • PrivateJoker #173 3 years ago

    "Yes but honestly, as I said, anyone that thinks mgs (with its retarded story and shit dialogue) and lbp ( a kiddy platformer) matches up to mass effect, fable and gears are just retards. There's no other way to put that, really. Just retards"

    says who, you? LMAO!

    Sanctimonious drivel with no thread of reasoning to it, just cus' YOU say so. Grow the fuck up and get a woman, get laid and learn how to communicate you prick.
  • Goodfella #174 3 years ago

    Yes but honestly, as I said, anyone that thinks mgs (with its retarded story and shit dialogue) and lbp ( a kiddy platformer) matches up to mass effect, fable and gears are just retards. There's no other way to put that, really. Just retards.

    What is it with you, because someone likes a game that doesn't feature homo-erotic, gun-toting blokes with fat arms and no necks they are to be labelled retards?

    I think it's very much the case that you are the retard if that's how your mind works.
  • ronuds #175 3 years ago

    I have to admit, playing MGS4 made me feel a little gay - having to stare at Snake's ass the whole time and all.

    /shivers
  • Goodfella #176 3 years ago

    No, we're not even, not by a long stretch. Calling people retards means you sunk lower than the Titanic, it's THE grade A moronic word to use on the internet.
  • PrivateJoker #177 3 years ago

    @ Count

    My fiancee, in the lounge says, "go fuck yourself"

    The mum joke makes me think, your a highschool moron and judging from when you started posting, this makes sense.

    So i'm gonna to hit the ignore button now cus' I don't see the point discussing anything with someone who knows nothing yet.

    Feel free to say whatever absurd insulting shit you want about me ;-) You'll understand in maybe 10 years if you aint keeled over by then according to statistics recently in the media, wtf??? What about couch potatoes and the jobless ffs!
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 20:31
  • chessboxer #178 3 years ago

    @ ronuds,

    I just took the list from Metacritic at the side of the pages:

    PS3: http://www.metac ritic.com/games/ps3/. 360: http://www.m etacritic.com/games/xbox360/.

    @ CountFapula

    BC became something for early adopters (thanks to people moaning about the price). I've only used it a for 2 games so far. It's a bit painful going back to PS2 games after playing the PS3, but I did miss out on God Of War 1 & 2 thanks to Unreal Tournament (UT99/2k3/2k4) and Counter-Strike: Source so I may pick them up at some point. I still have a perfectly working chipped Slimline PS2 so it's no cheese off my helmet.

    Personally I think people would be better off with 4 USB ports (and possibly the card reader) than BC, but that's just my opinion.
  • makeamazing #179 3 years ago

  • bad09 #180 3 years ago

    "I have to admit, playing MGS4 made me feel a little gay - having to stare at Snake's ass the whole time and all.

    /shivers "

    Thank god I'm not the only one who noticed his arse!
    Edited by 1 at 18/03/09 @ 20:37
  • makeamazing #181 3 years ago

    Just dont tell MrsBad otherwise she might get rid of your console :D
  • bad09 #182 3 years ago

    @ makeamazing

    LOL I don't think she'll mind!

    As tight and pert Snake's arse is (and it does look good in that suit) I think I prefer Mrs bad09's :)
  • bad09 #183 3 years ago

    @ CountFapula

    Ironically, I had to lay out for PS3 for my girlfriend at Xmas after she saw mine. I got her a 360 a while before but after seeing LBP she wanted PS3 to.
  • ronuds #184 3 years ago

    "I just took the list from Metacritic at the side of the pages"

    The top 20 360 games overall rank higher than the top 20 PS3, so you need to expand your search.

    Also, there are 8 360 exclusives and 7 PS3 from that list?
    Edited by 2 at 18/03/09 @ 20:58
  • chessboxer #185 3 years ago

    Actually, I only see 5, not 8.

    Braid is out on PC this month and I'm not sure if Portal is any different from the PC/PS3 versions. If so then it is 6 for the 360. Everything else is available on PS3 and/or PC.
  • Sunyavadin #186 3 years ago

    £200, are you lumping case, ram, PSU, CPU, optical drives, HDDs, the works in with that?

    £200 would run Crysis for me, I'd need just a new PSU and graphics card, probably a 4870 to get good performance at 1680res


    See, that's not counting a monitor (But they come separately to the PS3 too) or a keyboard and mouse (Which I swiped from my old system) and I can't run without losing framerate in any resolution higher than 1280, but it's still a system that should be able to run a Killzone 2 port fine if there was one.
  • Rash' #187 3 years ago

    Xerx3s, I am human... I am full of contradictions. I really am starting to wonder why I wind you up so much. I mean I'm not even trying... Must be that natural charm of mine. ;)
  • canIdoyabombsforya #188 3 years ago

    I bought a PS3 for dual screen gaming, it was announced in 2005 and still hasn't happened!
  • ronuds #189 3 years ago

    "Braid is out on PC this month and I'm not sure if Portal is any different from the PC/PS3 versions. If so then it is 6 for the 360. Everything else is available on PS3 and/or PC."

    Ahhh, so you've been picking and choosing what is and isn't an exclusive as you see fit. If you can get a game on the 360 and not the PS3, or vice versa, that, sir, is an exclusive. Not "what Chess feels is an exclusive." lol

    Anyway, you still need to expand your search because only searching the top 20 isn't much research. The 360's rated-over-90 list of games goes beyond 20 games, while the PS3's does not.

    @ Brombeer

    What are you doing to your consoles, man? I know the 360's hardware is shotty and there have even been questions lately over the PS3's quality, but I can't help think you're doing something wrong.
  • ronuds #190 3 years ago

    Well, my thought was the location of the devices - like stuffed in a cabinet or some such? That could cause issues.

    But if Sony is doing what you believe that would suck.
  • chessboxer #191 3 years ago

    I didn't pick and choose, I used the same exclusive ruling for both the PS3 and 360. I think people would agree that an exclusive game is a game which cannot be played on another gaming platform and yes, the PC is a gaming platform a very good one at that (strokes Counter-Strike: Source and UT2004).

    I don't own a 360, yet I do own Left4Dead and I could go out to buy and play Gears of War and/or Mass Effect if I really wanted to. I might even get Alan Wake if it gets finished and is any good, all without owning a 360. Now if you or whoever it was on the other page had stated console exclusives then that's a different matter, but the topic was exclusives and in the top 20, the 360 has less than the PS3. Sure you can look at games with a score of 80 and higher, but you will still find that the PS3 has more EXCLUSIVE games than the 360. It's not a vast amount more, but the PS3 has the higher count.

    Going by your definition of a console exclusive, anyone could call Castlevania: Symphony of The Night a 360 exclusive game, when it was available over 10 years ago on the PS1 & Saturn (1997) and more recently the PSP.

    IGN had a 10ish page article up at the end of 2008 looking at exclusives games released that year across the PS3, 360 & Wii. They concluded that the PS3 had more higher scoring exclusives than the 360, with the Wii coming 3rd. Even Gametrailers said the same thing http:// www.gametrailers.com/player/43916.html.
  • Sesonic #192 3 years ago

    What's the point in having exclusives on the 360 if the hardware isn't up to playing them. 360 games on the pc for me thank you.
  • Xerx3s #193 3 years ago

    "Xerx3s, I am human..."

    I call bs on that! As for the rest of that comment, see the comment I wrote that you conveniently ignored.
    Edited by 1 at 20/03/09 @ 08:42