Skate 2

Falling down.

Turning weaknesses into strengths is an appealingly simple approach to take with sequels. The main reason more developers don't try it is pretty simple as well: it's very hard. Much easier, then, to simply ignore the cracks that are forming, paper over them and let the problem quietly spread around the entire structure until, one day, several years down the line, it undermines the whole enterprise and you're left with a pretty mound of toxic rubble.

But EA Black Box hasn't done that. The developers of last year's Skate actually managed to take one of the very few things that annoyed players in the original game and spin it into something fun. "We discovered the control scheme could be confusing, and people fell down a lot," admits producer Jason DeLong. "We decided to reward that."

The team's solution is to turn falling down into one facet of the challenge: fling your skater off the top of a bridge, or a building, or down the side of a mountain, and see how much damage you can do to them. Once they're falling, you can explosively launch them off their boards, and make them strike any of a number of inappropriate poses, from a cannonball curl to a flailing spread eagle, in order to maximise the bone-shattering and face-grinding that ensues. Welcome to the Hall of Meat mode: it's gravity, only fun.

It's a mini-game that may be familiar from elsewhere: both PAIN and Amped 3 got a lot of mileage from variations on the same mechanic (and its inclusion in Skate 2 probably means that a large proportion of players will still be doing a lot of falling down in the main game, incidentally) but you can't really begrudge a little strategic theft when the implementation is this good: collisions are jarring and amusingly horrific, and the game presents you with a heavy chunk of stats post-splat, including bones broken and medical costs accrued alongside the distance fallen and speed of impact. Even the simple act of ejecting from the board brings back all the right memories of Monkey Target, with its emphasis on timing and its delight in experimentation.

'Skate 2' Screenshot 1

Character damage may be persistent in the final version, so you may end up with a lamppost sticking out of your stomach for most of the game.

So that's how I came to spend the best part of twenty minutes at a recent EA press event throwing fashionably-trousered counter-culture types off a bridge, delineating the minute variations in the way they'd smash against objects on their way down. It's good, old fashioned, stupid fun.

But if it suggests a more Johnny Knoxville approach to the wider game, however, that's not the case - the bodies piling up at the bottom of the canyon are about as endearingly moronic as Skate 2 gets. This is not unexpected: despite the slacker soundtrack and regular incidences of heads hitting poles, the original Skate was defined by an air of self-effacing competence. This was the game that quietly set about revolutionising a skating genre which had gimmicked itself into a tired, confusing anticlimax, and it's the same game that then quietly went on to clean up in the shops, sending Tony Hawk (and possibly even Tony Hawks, too) into a crisis of confidence resulting in a rare year off.

Mild-mannered and clever, Skate was probably the most Canadian game ever made, and aside from the new fully-fledged Hall of Meat, the sequel chooses not to pile on disparate distractions and unlikely new directions, but instead working out how best to get more out of the existing framework. There are new elements, then, but they tend to be modest and obvious additions to the experience. "With skate we were building an engine, a team, and a game at the same time," explains DeLong. "Now we have all that in place we're able to simply improve on all the different aspects."

So while Skate 2 features double the moves of the original, it does it all without bringing sweeping change to the existing Flickit system. By making simple additions, like allowing you to take your feet off the board in mid-air, or giving you the opportunity to perform grabs with either hand while grinding, you can recombine the existing flips and shuvits, and perform footplants and fingerflips and various other moves which, to me, sound like enemies from a Rare game.

Then there's the "grab the world" button. By squeezing R1 (or RB on a 360 - the demo was running on a PS3), you can reach out and grasp onto the environment at any point. For tricking, it has obvious benefits: you can now perform extremely satisfying handplants at the top of a ramp, for example, but besides adding another layer to your moves, it opens up much wider possibilities.

And that's because, at the press of a button, you can now come off the board, allowing you to navigate the environment more quickly, or eject from a trick in mid-air if it looks like it's going seriously wrong. You can even jump off your board as it goes under a table, run over the table, and get back onto the board at the other end, a move which has apparently had every journalist who's seen it talking about Back to the Future (and rightly so).

But, more importantly, combined with grabbing, it allows you to set up your own assault courses. "If an object's not bolted down, you can probably move it," says DeLong, and with over 100 bits of in-game furniture ranging from bins to benches to picnic tables, a large portion of Skate 2 is now handed over to the joys of iteration, as you tweak elaborate layouts to get a line just right. In its exactness, it's a mode that speaks to your inner shut-in, and although the physics engine means that if you bump into a ramp you've just positioned you may knock it out of careful alignment, you can now add objects to a session marker, and one button press will snap everything back in place.

'Skate 2' Screenshot 3

Facial animation's impressive: the team have nailed the look of a dazed stoner who's just beaned himself on a billboard.

Elsewhere, the developers have been enlarging Skate's world, redesigning the city, adding new areas, and creating an entire mountain that was visible in the original game only as a backdrop. "The original San Vanelona could be a bit flat," admits DeLong, while showing off the new wealth of rocky terrain. "Now there's a lot more height to explore." The increased verticality sets the scene for super-speedy downhill races, which have a distinctly SSX feel to them (unsurprisingly, as it turns out: team members from the original SSX now work on Skate). And the races add a new thrill to a game which is often about standing around in a car park, tirelessly mastering a single move: taking a corner at speed as two competitors wipe out into a low-hanging tree and the sun flares a cold golden light across the screen makes you think Skate 2 might be rather special.

There's no word on multiplayer modes yet, other than tantalising hints at much greater crossover between online and single-player, so we'll have to wait on that front. Otherwise, this isn't a sequel that's going to flatten you with an audacious revolution, but it's looking self-assured, graceful, and balanced - qualities that any skater would probably appreciate.

Comments (28) Latest comment 3 years ago

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  • sn3jk #1 3 years ago

    Downhill races sounds awesome. Cant wait for this.
  • Monsta #2 3 years ago

    In my mind the who point of Skate was a really back to basic's skateboarding game.

    All the skaters i know love it because its the first game to feel like skating since Thrasher:skate or die on the playstation.

    I suppose it should have been expected really. Have a great idea for a game and then as soon as you move on to the sequel start heading down market as quickly as possibly.

    Here's to Skate3: Xtreme
  • Sansmilk_GK #3 3 years ago

    I've got a serious boner for this game....
  • Bitkari #4 3 years ago

    Was that really a Radio 4 reference?
  • mikew1985 #5 3 years ago

    @ Monsta

    Overreaction much?

    Okay the bail mode sounds stupid, but everything else is a welcome and sensible addition.
    There is no lame extreme and underground story, they've added in most of the tricks that were (noticeably) missing from the first game. They've created a new city, apparently removed the annoying loading when returning to a session marker. Doesn't sound down market to me, sounds like they've changed all the things they needed to while retaining the feel of the game.
  • septimus #6 3 years ago

    Sounds good fun. Skate/Tony Hawk + PAIN.

    Love how you have stuck this in the 360 preview section but, "Then there's the "grab the world" button. By squeezing R1 (or RB on a 360 - the demo was running on a PS3)" EG staying true to their cause ;)
  • 3william56 #7 3 years ago

    Have they sorted the camera yet?
  • Eighthours #8 3 years ago

  • speed182 #9 3 years ago

    Can't wait, I loved Skate, one of the best games I've played.

    Bring on Skate 2!
  • Quint2020 #10 3 years ago

    Sold.

    First game was one of my favourites from last year, I'm sure this will be even better.
  • nickthegun #11 3 years ago

    "Have they sorted the camera yet"

    I think that will be harder to fix, since it deliberately emulated those fish eye skate videos.

    But, yeah, I didnt really like it and found the character obscured far too much of the screen.
  • BillyBrush #12 3 years ago

    liked the first one.. lots

    apart from Black Rob's challenge where you had to do a 360 flip on a bench while a big boy walked round it...there was nothing hard about it apart from the trick only came off the analouge once every 75 times
  • skuzzbag #13 3 years ago

    As long as it's as difficult and frustrating as the first one then I'll be happy.
  • LOLLERS #14 3 years ago

    "It's a mini-game that may be familiar from elsewhere: both PAIN and Amped 3 got a lot of mileage from variations on the same mechanic "

    It was also the entire basis for the game 'Crusty Demons'. But no-one ever played that so it's ok.

    I was worried for a moment that this was now the basis of the whole game, but as a mini-game it should be a fun diversion, this sounds good.
  • Quine #15 3 years ago

    But will there be Lady Skaters?
  • Tomo #16 3 years ago

    I think the camera view was part of the point. Perhaps an alternate view would be nice, but the camera was a revolution I thought.
  • Fife #17 3 years ago

    Game of the year 2009.
    @ Quine girls are confirmed to be in.
  • lambtron #18 3 years ago

    The first game was brilliant, brilliant, brilliant in every conceivable way. Here's hoping this is at least as good.
  • thepiedpiper #19 3 years ago

    "It's a mini-game that may be familiar from elsewhere"

    similar to crash junctions on burnout?
  • dadrester #20 3 years ago

    @Monsta

    did you read the preview?!

    anyway... i loved skate but in these days of havok behaveour and euphoria, bailing really sucked. it was like you just died or froze up or something as soon as you came off the board... the new stuff looks great in videos, bailing before you really hurt yourself.

    @Quine

    yes... at least one of the vids doing the rounds seems to suggest so.
    Edited by 1 at 06/10/08 @ 12:31
  • FmCUK #21 3 years ago

    Another quality "Hands On" Christian, many thanks :)

    Did you see the 360 version at all? Are they looking to touch the graphics at all or leaving them alone completely?
  • Pastici #22 3 years ago

    Can't wait! I still play skate more than any other game I own.
  • degville #23 3 years ago

    does the PS3 version have the shame shoddy framerate of the original? It was shockingly bad when you span the view around unlike the much smoother 360 version.
  • Monsta #24 3 years ago

    I loved skate and i'm sure i'll love the new one. I'm just worried if the focus becomes throwing yourself down a mountain and down hill racing (the comparison to ssx was what really scared me) the it will loose what was most appealing about the original.

    I didn't have an issue with falling a lot. When your skating you fall down. Repeatedly.

    Skating is very difficult. Why should games make it so much easier.
  • Super_Zee #25 3 years ago

    I recently playtested this for a few hours and I loved every single second of it. The additions really make a difference from the first game. It's a definite day one purchase for me.
  • myke6699 #26 3 years ago

    "does the PS3 version have the shame shoddy framerate of the original? It was shockingly bad when you span the view around unlike the much smoother 360 version."

    Nope- this time Black Box is using PS3 as the lead platform (hence why this hands on is using PS3 instead of 360).
  • Kostabi #27 3 years ago

    I know they probably aren't going to but including longboards for the downhill races would make my day.

    Absolutely loved the first game even if some of the later video challenges were tedious to the extreme. They went from fairly challenging to vertical wall of fury.
  • ph101 #28 3 years ago

    skate coming out on on wii or did i imagine that... also would it work with wii fit..