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Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution Hands On

Xbox 360 PC PlayStation 3 Hands On by Alec Meer

23 May, 2008

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Revolution's a dangerous word. It promises absolute change, yet so often means the same but tweaked - a new colour, a new interface... It's much the same as how 'awesome' once was used to describe humanity or nature's greatest achievements, but now can mean 'that's a nice hat'. I rankle a little at seeing it applied to this console overhaul of the venerable globe-conquering turn-based strategy series. It's still Civilization. It's not Civilization played only with your tongue, or Civilization that can travel through time. Civilization Smallerisation or Civilization Simplification would perhaps be more apt, but they don't look quite so good on a shop shelf. They suggest what Civilizution has done is merely to lessen itself. In truth, that's exactly what it's done. But it's done so with noble purpose, to focus on what is most important.

Civilization's globe, complexity and strategy alike have shrunk significantly, making for a game that makes sense to a newcomer within ten minutes, not ten hours, and though most of what's been lost is rolls of unnecessary flab, there will be an awful lot of people who'll lament that the chunky look kinda suited it. Civilizution is a leaner, brighter-eyed figure, with nice teeth and none of that musty PC smell, but its attention span seems a little diminished. Whenever I approached the part of what would, in an unrevolved Civ, be crunch-time, with a hundred different facets of war and expansion and uprising and construction and research and religious freedom and pollution to worry about at once, I'd suddenly find myself within spitting distance of conclusion. Half the globe was already either wiped out or absorbed into mine or another Civ, making it a straight race between me and those that remained.

'Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution' Screenshot 1

In theory, it's all in the numbers. In practice, there's an oft-infuriating random element to combat, which I'm not entirely convinced by.

Simpler. Faster. Shallower? Maybe. Also remarkably tense. There was none of this vague, elaborate points-collection or 80-turn construction of 12 different spaceship parts. Just a pulse-pounding dead heat - would my proud Japanese Empire amass 20,000 gold and claim economic triumph before Russia built a craft to sail the stars? And before the Zulus gobbled up one more rival and snatched a conquest victory? All this emerged in that game's last 20 turns, making for a genuinely thrilling race to the finish.

When a given Civ commences a game-winning action - in my case, collecting that giant cashpile and starting work on the World Bank wonder - the rest of the Civs hear about it, and where I'm doing it. No matter what careful alliances you might have forged by this point, all bets are now off. You must be stopped, at all costs. So, informed that I'd started on the World Bank, the other three remaining Civs turn on me. The still world comes suddenly to life. Troops pour out of nearby Moscow, battleships and subs slip out of Zimbabe's harbour with murderous intent. My outlying cities fall, one by one - my focus on cash meant I had little in the way of military defences. In desperation, I pour every unit I do have into Nagasaki, where the Bank was being constructed. Four turns to go. No other cities left. I look at the circling French bombers, at the Zulu tanks rumbling across the land towards Nagasaki, and steel myself for what's ahead. Truly, this is an historic last stand. Sure, I'd feel a little more heroic if it wasn't all about building a bank, but nevertheless, each time I pressed End Turn felt impossibly momentous.

'Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution' Screenshot 2

The characters are beautifully animated, even protesting and squabbling when one pushes another off-screen.

The intense aggression of the other Civs is because there isn't a meaningful second or third or fourth place in Civ Rev - there is simply The Winner and the losers. While, at first, the sudden hostility of the NPC Civs whenever my victory was in sight seemed flighty and artificial, I soon realised a human player would behave exactly the same way. If you're about to win, they've nothing left to lose. Why on Earth would they want to help you? The only logical course of action is to try and bring you down, and in doing so maybe buy themselves some time. In this case, the other Civs didn't buy themselves enough. One more turn and they'd have had me, but my last Modern Infantry weathered the storm just long enough for the World Bank to complete. Victory! I might have but one city remaining, but through it now flows the global economy. Give it up, Zulus. Sucks to be you, France.

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Razz
23/05/08 @ 10:38
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Sounds good! :D
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23/05/08 @ 10:46
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Sounds rubbish! D:
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23/05/08 @ 10:47
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Sounds like good rubbish! :D
Killerbee
23/05/08 @ 10:48
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Interesting. I'm a big fan of Civ on the PC and to be honest, the version of this that has me most interested is the DS version. Do the same sort of comments apply? Even a version of the first game on the DS would be absolute gaming bliss for me, but I do hope it isn't dumbed down too much.
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23/05/08 @ 10:48
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This has filled me with anticipation and trepidation. It would seem that the 'Civ Lite' fear has come to pass. I so want this to be good, but I reckon I am going to fall in the disappointed camp. A small map? No need for diplomacy? The end -game arrives quickly and is over in 20 turns? I still have hope but I'm steeling myself for a let-down.
AaronTurner
23/05/08 @ 10:49
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Eek! Sounds a little dubious to me to be honest. I'm no Civ geekhead know it all, but it seems they may have just gone a tad overboard on the simplification here. Anyhow, hope it's good!
Wendelius
23/05/08 @ 10:52
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Killerbee,

The DS and next gen version use the same AI and ruleset engine. The difference is in the presentation.

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23/05/08 @ 10:52
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The only part of CivRev I can see that is worth having is the quick MP games. I hope that they include a quick mode in Civ 5 which is basically the stripped down rules of Civ Rev. Being able to play a 4 - 6 player Civ MP game in one evening will be lovely.

Stripping away the depth and strategy in SP will make the game pretty dull and repetitive I think. Civs strengths have always been in it's depth, but that depth translates to MP games that take days of total gaming hours and rarely have I actually finished one.
ps3owner
23/05/08 @ 10:52
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sounds like 20/20 cricket
Quint2020
23/05/08 @ 10:55
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I've never played a Civ game and i absolutely detest RTSs (except for Starcraft for some odd reason) but i'm really interested in this, sounds really fun!
reality_cheque
23/05/08 @ 10:56
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Anything that gives me more ways to kick the arse of Khanivore and DDevil gets my vote :D
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23/05/08 @ 11:00
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@ps3owner - nice analogy. This sounds good to me. I love an epic game of CivTrad, but do like the idea of a short-form streamlined version too.
urban
23/05/08 @ 11:07
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this is going to be pooperstick
robg
23/05/08 @ 11:16
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Mmm...Civilisation plus Wii Remote...please?
Moz
23/05/08 @ 11:18
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I have Civ the Board game at home and this sounds like a computerised version of it.

Which is a very good thing, though expect to hate your friends for a few days after you play against each other. cos if it really does play the same way as the board game it gets very competative. Some of my friends refuse to play the board game against surtain other friends.
Bonzrat
23/05/08 @ 11:19
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Been playing the DS version too - can confirm it's largely very similar to the Big Boy versions. Major differences are aesthetic/interface ones.
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sharky_ob
23/05/08 @ 11:20
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I must be a bit slow today - the first page of the article made no sense to me whatsoever.
koji_m
23/05/08 @ 11:22
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good good, now gief!
reality_cheque
23/05/08 @ 11:27
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@Moz: I doubt this will be the game of the board game, as I've got the board game too and it's even more complicated than actual Civ!
Moz
23/05/08 @ 11:32
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@reality_cheque once you've played it a couple of times it's far simplar then the comp game.

While i'm not expecting rev to be an exact replica of the board game the pace and competitivness sound very similar. we play through the board game using advance rules in about 4 hours which is a little longer then a what a game of rev would appear to take but then you spend alot of time faffing about find the right piece and looking through decks of cards in the board game.
TheJuriel
23/05/08 @ 11:54
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Civ on PC is too slow, and frankly a micromanagement hell. I've waited for CivRev a lot, because I like the idea of guiding a civilization through the ages, but this sounds too simple and gamey. I didn't really want simple, just streamlined.

Guess we'll see soon enough...
japstersam
23/05/08 @ 12:09
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"The yellow border demonstrates how much custard you've made. Or maybe it's the range of your city's influence. I forget"

LOL :)
wowami
23/05/08 @ 12:13
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i want colonisation to be remade.
truly my fav CIV game even without the name.
UltimateWarrior
23/05/08 @ 12:55
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Superb writing. One of the most enjoyable reads on here for some time. Informative but in a very pleasant way. Kinda like a film that's over before you know it simply because it was very good.
Moz
23/05/08 @ 13:15
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I Second UltimateWarrior
farticusmaximus
23/05/08 @ 13:57
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Very undecided about this. I loved Civ to bits and actually enjoyed the micromanagement and long-term tech achievements. However, it would be nice to play a whole game in less than a whole evening ;)
T4RG4
23/05/08 @ 14:05
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I want a decent rival to Civ!

FWB
23/05/08 @ 14:37
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Who gives a fuck about these versions? It's the DS one we're really after.
Khanivor
23/05/08 @ 14:55
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Oooh, them's fighting talk R_C!

It's Civ for consoles - there's no way they could keep the complexity of the PC game in there. From the preview it sounds like Firaxis have managed to kepe the core gameplay and port it to a new audience. Us old Civ hands will not find it replacing an epic game on a huge world but the MP sounds delish and I can't wait to get stuck into that.

PS - where' my turn?
Ryuken
23/05/08 @ 15:08
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Why the PC tag on the front page for this article?
Stickman
23/05/08 @ 15:26
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Sounds like Civiliretard.
mrTom
23/05/08 @ 15:31
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i don't like the idea of over aggresive AI
Moz
23/05/08 @ 15:55
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i think this is going to be one of those games that if you "get it" then there will be hours of multiplayer fun to be had.

Sound really good to me and i've been a Civ player since the beginning.
FWB
23/05/08 @ 15:55
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Anyone interested in proper Civilisation most likely has the PC/Mac version and will stick to that. Can't see this doing well even if it is dumbed down for the masses.
ronuds
23/05/08 @ 16:38
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Too bad they aren't including the console version and the micromanagement version in 1 package. I love Civ myself, but I'm a little hesitant on this one.
lemonfist
24/05/08 @ 06:26
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Faster and simpler Civ can only be more FUN than recent outings. I still prefer I and II over III and IV.
silke
24/05/08 @ 13:06
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It's the DS version that will reign. It also exclues those awful graphics. Viva!
rowsdower
24/05/08 @ 13:35
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This looks like some crazy multiplayer fun. A damn shame there's no PC version as, while I love Civ4, this would just be better for playing with mates.
Xerx3s
25/05/08 @ 09:22
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"Anyone interested in proper Civilisation most likely has the PC/Mac version and will stick to that. Can't see this doing well even if it is dumbed down for the masses."

I have the pc version, doesn't matter as I'm a massive fan and anything civ interests me.
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25/05/08 @ 10:15
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@wowami: There is a free colonization game at http://www.freecol.org/ although I couldn't hear any music while playing it (the cheesy colonization music was the highlight of the game for me). Also it has bugs, but that's just like the original game ;-)
Jheronimus
02/06/08 @ 10:27
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I'm looking forward to this, even while I'm going to miss the micromanagement of the PC-games. But CIV lite to play over XBL would be great!

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