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Shadowrun Interview

PC Xbox 360 Interview by Dave McCarthy

5 March, 2007

After getting a chance to check out FASA Interactive's fantasy cyberpunk online-only arena-based first-person shooter first hand, Eurogamer sat down for a chat with the developer's studio manager, Mitch Gitelman to discuss how to turn an 18-year-old pen and paper RPG into a fantasy cyberpunk online-only arena-based first-person shooter.

Eurogamer: You've probably been asked this about a million times, but why an arena-based FPS based on Shadowrun and not an RPG?

Mitch Gitelman: What I had to do was to play the strengths of my studio. We had never made an RPG before. When you combine the design team of a game like Crimson Skies - a great multiplayer action game - and MechAssault - the first game on Xbox Live - and you hire the lead designer on Halo... well you make a firstperson shooter out of it, you just have to. So that's why we did it. That doesn't mean that in the future we won't branch out with it, but for the first round that's what we decided to do.

'Shadowrun' Screenshot 1

Trolls can take lots of damage.

Eurogamer: And is there much scope to add new content to the current game? Can you plug in new features like new magic abilities, or even something like decking (Shadowrun's equivalent of hacking into cyberspace)?

Mitch Gitelman: New magic and stuff? Absolutely. Decking like in Shadowrun the paper game? There is scope to do that. I'm not going to yet. Here's the plan for Shadowrun. The idea is that this version of Shadowrun takes place 25 years before the SNES and the Mega Drive/Genesis game as sort of a prequel before that decking thing was invented, and before they discovered the Astral Plane. So what happens is that with each version of Shadowrun that we release in the future, we'll move the timeline forward and we'll introduce a major new piece of gameplay. When we do the Matrix it's going to be very big. I'm not just going to do a little thing with it: we go big or stay home.

Eurogamer: The game actually has so many possibilities that the learning curve could be quite steep. How will you make the game accessible for novice players when they get online?

Mitch Gitelman: Well you've started playing the game after playing one or two training missions out of six, and after each one of those six there's a skirmish mode. You can also play the game solo with our bots - all of the game types, all of the different maps. And that's the best you can do. I don't think there's a multiplayer shooter out there that you don't go online and immediately get schooled. Also remember that when you played you were given a ton of money at the beginning, but the first round of Shadowrun is usually a pistol and one spell and it gradually goes up and up and up.

'Shadowrun' Screenshot 2

Elves are the perfect hit and run fighters: fast in, fast out, with regenerative powers out of combat.

Eurogamer: And how will the game matching work on Vista?

Mitch Gitelman: I'm glad you brought that up because I'm very enamoured of our matchmaking system, which accounts for your skill and also your preferences - which maps you like, which game types you like - and it tries to match you with people who not only play at your skill level, but also play the maps and things that you like. We're trying to give you the best experience every time you go on and we hope that people really appreciate that. We try to make it as painless as possible.

Eurogamer: Obviously the Xbox Live system has a certain amount of in-built defensive measures against griefing. Is there anything that you guys will be adding on top of that?

Mitch Gitelman: Yeah, one thing we've learned from Halo 2, which is very interesting, is that there isn't ranked matches in Shadowrun. We find that rankings are the reward for griefing and the reward for cheating. And when you remove that reward, now people just play the game to have fun. So we feel that's another way. We're the first people I think to do it without ranking matches, so we're treading new ground there as well.

Eurogamer: So what do you think are the key features that set the game apart from other multiplayer-focused games?

'Shadowrun' Screenshot 3

Humans are just all-rounders. Which makes them good at shooting into holes.

Mitch Gitelman: It's improvisation. That's the thing really: there aren't a lot of options in other multiplayer games, and there's no [sharp intake of breath] "Huh? I never expected that!" And in Shadowrun there's constantly the unexpected that you hadn't thought of. For example, you remember the Tree of Life? The other day I saw somebody do something that I hadn't seen before, which is odd - I've been playing the game for three years. He used his Tree of Life, and then to make sure the enemy couldn't use it, he took the Strangle crystals and he put them around his tree, to deny it to the enemy.

Eurogamer: And what are you most pleased with now that the game's nearing completion?

Mitch Gitelman: The thing that I'm most pleased with is the thing that I see today. I've watched journalists play the game and they're laughing and shouting and that's the best thing. I've been waiting a long time for people to play my game. Game developers make games for players, so to see people actually enjoying it the way we intended is without a doubt the best thing.

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pauleyc
05/03/07 @ 14:34
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Atlus, SquareEnix

Yes, it would be a real improvement, giving Shadowrun to a JRPG developer... o_o

But I agree with your comment regarding the FPS decision.
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No ranked matches! I agree that removes a lot of incentive for griefing and cheating. But doesn't that also remove a lot of incentive to keep playing the game?
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I absolutely disagree; the origin of the developer is never irrelevant (in the SNES version's case it was Melbourne House, hardly unknown/inexperienced). Shadowrun is a WRPG, the game deserves a studio that is able to handle the subject accordingly. And yes, I do "know my RPGs" hence my low opinion of JRPGs.
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kangarootoo
05/03/07 @ 15:40
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@BrokenSymmetry

Only for poeple that give a crap about that sort of thing. I've never played a ranked match in my life, but I still have insentive to play the online games that I play. I'm sure I'm not the only one out there.
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"Shadowrun is a WRPG, the game deserves a studio that is able to handle the subject accordingly. And yes, I do "know my RPGs" hence my low opinion of JRPGs."

Wow, what a very self important and self assured attitude to bring to proceedings. What if you are simply wrong, did you ever consider that?
pauleyc
05/03/07 @ 15:47
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What is simply wrong, that I do not like JRPGs? That I think that a studio like Bioware or Troika (RIP) might understand Shadowrun better than a Japanese developer?

Is having an opinion now considered as self important?
kangarootoo
05/03/07 @ 16:21
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"What is simply wrong"

Thats kind of my point exactly. Its all subjective, and the many many fans of JRPGs (of which I am not one incidentally) would disagree with you.

I was being sarcastic when I suggested you might be wrong, in fact in the context of games I don't believe such a thing exists.

And yes, declaring an your personal opinion as some kind of empirical fact is kind of self important.

P.s. I actually feel bad for getting on your case a bit. My point stands, but I think I should have been a bit more polite about it.
pauleyc
05/03/07 @ 16:42
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No offense taken, I should have added a "respectfully disagree" with smiley earlier, too. It's not too late for the smiley, anyway. ;-)

I guess it was mostly a horrfied reaction to big eyes, pointy hair and lots of ".....!" instead of dialogue that a Japanese developer might add to Shadowrun (which I'm a fan - though not fanboy - of).
kangarootoo
05/03/07 @ 16:44
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Its never too late for a smiley dude.

I'm a fan of Shadowrun too, check my rant on the other thread.
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05/03/07 @ 19:12
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"Mitch Gitelman: What I had to do was to play the strengths of my studio. We had never made an RPG before. When you combine the design team of a game like Crimson Skies - a great multiplayer action game - and MechAssault - the first game on Xbox Live - and you hire the lead designer on Halo... well you make a firstperson shooter out of it, you just have to. So that's why we did it. That doesn't mean that in the future we won't branch out with it, but for the first round that's what we decided to do."

Fine but why Shadowrun? They coulda just made this a completely new IP, yes?

Did I miss something?!
faëlnor
06/03/07 @ 06:32
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I think a FPS is the perfect way to show off that bore fest that Shadowrun is. D&D. Big guns. Future setting. Yeah, really great.

Elves in space FTW *rolleyes*

EDIT : Even though I dislike most JRPGs, I'll grant more originality in the Japanese vision of their worlds and characters than what we get in many western fantasy RPGs.
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