SEGA Rally Comments by Kristan Reed
Return of the arcade.
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BillyBrush
18/09/07 @ 08:46
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Weird people aren't bothered about rumble in a game you feel the grooves in the track made by other cars....after the demo i can imagine this without rumble and can imagine you'd be better off with Ridge Racer 7...what's the point in all the deformation if you can't feel how much the track has been churned up (sure there's sound and handling, but rumble seemed pretty integral to me).
PS3 has some majic powers, like making people not care about feeling when tarmac switches to gravel... |
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9 ???
for fuck sakes its a 6-7 at best the only thing the "deformable terrain" does is make the pad buzz enough to give you RSI. Looks ok in the gfx department, nothing special. Slide, bounce, slide, bounce repeat until utter boredom sets in . Ill stick to the far superior DiRT RIP Colin. You still rule supreme |
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^^^ @BillyBrush
It's a bizarre syndrome where Sony fanboys pretend they don't care about a glaring gap in their console's feature list.... You know that if/when Sony release a rumble Sixaxis, they'll all go out and buy their replacement controllers.... and probably claim the rumble is better than the 360 equivalent! ;0)
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@evild_edd: Let's not make this another PS3 vs. 360 fanboy war. Fine that you find rumble absolutely nessesary, I just don't in racing games. In some PS3 games I do miss it (Resistance for example for damage feed-back).
I have both a 360 and PS3 and will buy the version for the console which I have most friends on which is PS3. Rumble is just a detail for me, but of course I would prefer if it was present.
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Eighthours
18/09/07 @ 08:56
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The demo's pretty nice. If the game had been out in June it would have been a definite purchase. However, coming out in September with so many big games on the way, I fear it's going to get lost in the rush. It's a little bit too old-school for me, with Gotham on the way.
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@BillyBrush - I've read that the PS3 version of SEGA Rally is identical to the 360 version with the exception of Achievements and rumble. Now I'd have happily bought the game for my PS3 and not the 360 (just for a change I suppose) but the thought of playing this game without any feedback at all puts me off that idea. While I love MotorStorm, it lost something from not being able to feel the environments you were racing across I thought, it's never 100% immersive if you like. I really hope that Sony hurries up and releases the DualShock 3 pad because apart from more quality games (which is a given for any PS3 owner I think), rumble is the thing I most miss and want on the PS3.
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cthulhu_steev
18/09/07 @ 12:45
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@ Billy Brush "PS3 has some majic powers, like making people not care about feeling when tarmac switches to gravel..."
The Sega Saturn version manages this just fine without rumble. |
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mono_eric3
18/09/07 @ 12:56
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I am, as many people here are, intrigued on how the 360 and PS3 version compare.
Its clear that the 360 version is using the hardware tessellation to generate a stupidly high poly count on the road surface, but I'm not sure how they would achieve this on the PS3. I'm also intrigued as to what sacrifices had to be made for the PSP version, and what they did to make up for them. And as for everyone who's complaining about the score, it's a review, it's a matter of opinion. There is nothing technically wrong with the game, and it is fundamentally fun. If its not your cup of tea, then go get a coffee. I just played the original and then this one, and they both feel great. Everyone is in agreement that it looks great too. Which is surprising. I though I was the only one who was getting really tired of excessive use of bloom and HDR techniques. After playing the new sonic game on 360 for far too long, this game finally (based on the demo alone) totally restores my faith. : D
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"Rumble is just a detail for me, but of course I would prefer if it was present."
+1, would be best if it was in: you can always turn it off Initially I thought I would be missing rumble but after doing a couple of months without it (play my PS2 games on the rumbleless PS3 as well), I can honestly say I don’t miss it at all. The feedback it gives can be achieved better with visual and sound cues. And rumble feedback is so crude that, for me at least, it doesn’t help with immersion one bit. One of the few games that did something useful with rumble was Metal Gear Solid (Gamecube remake at least, never played the original) and I must admit that was one of the best gaming moments ever. :) |
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wow, this one comes unexpected. 9? after reading the review,i was all excited. i got home, downloaded the demo..... and quit after 1 race. i dont see how can everybody say gfx is awesome. i feel something's wrong, i guess it's the framerate, cos' colors are nice and glossy, the cars are well done, the tracks look brilliant. but something was not letting me enjoy this demo. what a shame, i really hoped i was gonna love this, the review alone made me nostalgic of arcade-driving feeling. anyone noticed the same thing?
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Not a 9/10 to me too. In my opinion - poor handling, GFx not that "amazing", car models are not that reallistic, they seem like toys to me, nothing outstanding in the sound department also, too much arcade for me. Still prefer the feeling the early arcade ( Sega Rally and sega Rally 2) versions gave me. Indeed, not my "cup of tea". :) In the arcade side of racing games, none has made me forget Rallisport Challenge 1 & 2 on the Xbox, yet. Not even close to it... sadly.
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jonocarr1983
19/09/07 @ 09:15
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Its wierd how some people are comparing this to dirt and saying its no where near as good. This is a completely different style of game. Sega rally is everything that a game should be. Easy to pick up, great graphics and impossible to put down and thats just the demo!
@truwari3r The handling of the cars, turning from the centre as opposed to the front, is very similar to the way that dirt handles. |
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Agreed, it's bizarre when people complain that game X is not like game Y. Follow that to it’s logical conclusion and every game would be the same !
Variety is the spice of life and it’s great that there is an arcade rally game (and a very good one at that) alternative to the more sim like games out there. |
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2-player split screen, vertical split.
jonocarr1983: If you take any physical object, and push on it to rotate it without shifting it, you'll see it turns around its center of gravity - that's the very definition of a center of gravity. IRL cars are the same, but because we see them move as well as turn, it doesn't seem like it. The chase cam keeps a fixed distance from the car, so you only see the rotation. It's nothing to do with the physics implementation. |
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Mentalist(air)
20/09/07 @ 16:18
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I didn't like the demo. It didn't feel any better to me than the last Sega Rally game which only managed a 6/10. It didn't look much better, either.
I might go buy DIRT now, since I was holding out to see how this turned out, and the review doesn't really override my impressions of the demo. |
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shame on Eurogamer.
Your review credibilty will be seriously harmed if big paying advertisers get awesome reviews for mediocre games. Blurry textures, cardboard trees, average courses billed as superb. This game has 7 written all over it. Let's see what other review sites have to say. Best visuals ever--play the demo people before you buy on the strength of this review. |
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Canadian_Mike
23/09/07 @ 14:50
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This game is total shit....
9 out of 10 for this terrible shallow product? Wow, does this site ever suck nowadays. |
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@Everyone who is accusing the site of corruption, have you noticed that a number of other sites/reviewers have also scored the game highly (IGN, GamerTV) and there are a large number of people who love the demo and are picking up the full game (myself included).
Maybe the game is just not you're sort of thing but other people might love it and think it is worth 8/9 out of 10? @Those who have had one go at the demo and immediately hated the game. Tried using the bonnetCam or bumperCam viewpoint? I found the game must easier to control and gave a much better sense of speed this way. Transformed it from an average experience to a real entertaining reinvention of the original game. |
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Not long, but then there aren't many games that I suddenly like after hours of thinking they are rubbish.
Krudster, would you imagine that other websites or print publications are sometimes 'influenced' by sponsors? Or do you imagine the whole industry to be squeaky clean? Genuinely interested as I am the first to admit that you know more about journalism than I. Even if your review wasn't bought I am still a little less confident in Eurogamers 'opinion', which in the past had seemed like a good indication of how I might feel when I got to play the game. (Ignores Sge Rally banners all around this page...) |
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captain-future
23/09/07 @ 22:46
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I played the demo and would give the game a solid 8 / 10... still my favourite Rallye game is Rallisport Challenge on Xbox.
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I (like many others who have posted on this thread) thought the demo was fairly poor after a few tries, especially the very sensitive and somewhat twitchy controls.
However, after repeated play my opinion completely changed as you start to realise that you can throw the car around corners at ridiclous speeds and still feel in complete control. I think you can only start to cricticise, once you have come 1st or second in the two demo tracks. IMHO one of the most entertaining driving games I have played for a long time. |
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Of course all publications are infulanced by the companies that advertise in them. Eurogamer has obviously been infulanced by the large amount of advertising Sega has paid for. Would Eurogamer have gotton such a large piece of sega's advertising budget for this game if they had not given this a 9 I don't think so.
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