Schappert would love to see MGS4 on 360 Comments by Robert Purchese

Lol.

MGS4 is very possible on 360

a few codec comments?
snake holding a ps3 controller?
an i pod (not even an in game model)
laptop brands

none of these would be remotely difficult to change

a 2 DVD wouldnt be a problem

then youve got the shadow moses flashback, which im pretty sure doesnt use PS1 emulation, since (as far as i know) 40 gig PS3's dont have bc, so shouldnt be an issue


i still hope it doesnt happen, because it would seriously devalue my decision to go with PS3 for its exclusives rather than 360

i bought the PS3 for FFXIII, MGS4 & Team Ico's next game

losing FFXIII was bad.... really bad, but losing our only exclusive epic would really sting...

What's going on, why aren't the SDF here disputing these obvious lies? I don't get it. Where's hedbog with his inane wittering, where's Aplololol with his cut 'n' paste-o-rama? Has the SDF finally realised they can't win? I almost feel sorry for them now. Chin up guys, you still have Resistance and KLOLzone to look forward to ;P

I'd rather it came out on PC, personally, like MGS1 and 2 did. If i recall correctly, for added irony, Microsoft Games were the publishers for the PC version of MGS1.

I can unequivocally say that it most definitely is possible on PC.

which of these games run in true hd on 360 and not ps3 then? and is nt true hd for sound? i think he means full hd, so that'd be 1080p then, which mgs4 will not run at on either console thats for sure!

Would probably buy it again for 360 if it was a good port for the cheeve mints. But it'll probably come on 5 discs.

I hope it does come on five discs. It's quicker to swap a disc than wait five mins to install. It kinda makes it hard to immerse yourself in a game when it has long installs between every section, a quick disc swap would be infinitely better imo.

@ Arbiter: An 8 is not that different from a 9. EG and EDGE being two of a dozen places to give MGS 4 that score is neither strange nor exciting.

'PS3: Hardly any games/loses just about every game.

360: Steals games/not happy with the exclusives its got/greedy.

Wii: A gimmicky kids product/lacking decent games.'

Oh my lord.

You have the worst reasoning I've seen for a while.

"Look if it'll shut the Xbots up, fucking port it, it'll suck though and serve them right. "

Serve who right, Xbox owners? Why?

If he/she replies would someone please re-post it - I won't see it. otherwise.

"thanks alot mate for being realistic THANKS A BUNCH "

Huh? If you want it that much, get it on pc or 360...

"Ok lets turn it around, say the 360 had MGS 4 exclusively and it had MS products in it.

MS would soon sue if it was ported to the PS3. "

WHY IN FUCKS NAME WOULD THEY SUE?! You're making absolutely no sense whatsoever!

"This should shut them up, there no need for a 360 port, let the PS3 have atleast one decent exclusive. "

0_o

"Why do I? Is it because the PS3 is failing due to MS? MGS 4 should stay PS3 exclusive, that's all. "

Yeah so while you are blaming everything on ms, why don't you add war, disease, hunger, etc. to that. If the ps3 is failing (a rather odd statement), it is only because of one reason. Sony. I seriously don't understand how you can blame a console manufacturer for trying to get as many games as possible on their system. At best you can blame one for losing them.

lol! Kyron still fighting the GOOD FIGHT.

wow such retards who own the 360 come on i bet all of you will buy it on the 360 and yes it is an amazing game but wait they would have to put it on about 4 disks and out another 4 gb on the hdd to play it and they would have to change the game in so many ways like when one of the guys said "please put in disk 2 oh yer it dosent need to because of the space of bluray" yer i know its not like that but its kinda like what he said if any one played it

Dear oh dear

"wow such retards who own the 360 come on i bet all of you will buy it on the 360 and yes it is an amazing game but wait they would have to put it on about 4 disks and out another 4 gb on the hdd to play it and they would have to change the game in so many ways like when one of the guys said "please put in disk 2 oh yer it dosent need to because of the space of bluray" yer i know its not like that but its kinda like what he said if any one played it "

To call the entire user base of a console retards and then write something like that is a bit ironic.

So, those of us who own one and a PS3.. does that make the entire PS3 user base the same? lol.

Why do people come up with this stuff?

"Xbox Live boss John Schappert has said he would love to see Metal Gear Solid 4 on 360"

Who wouldn't?

"and that the console certainly has power enough to handle the beefy game."

Haven't played it yet, too big of a PS2 back catalogue and frankly PS3 games that attract me more currently (LBP and Valkyria Chronicles to name a few). If it's mainly about pixels, I'm sure MS's pixel pusher can handle it. The audio side will probably fare less well (no 7.1 or uncompressed) and for the gameplay, no idea how clock cycle intensive that is. But if the rest of the current gen games are anything to go by, it's probably mostly about the pixels.

It's simpel math: low installed base + high production costs = multiplatform release strategy.

And why is that bad news? More people get to enjoy more good games, developers can increase their revenue, everybody wins.

Well I got my PS mainly for MGS4 (and Blu), would I care if it got ported to 360? No in fact I'd salute Konami for letting more people experience their (flawed) masterpeice.

MGO would be a lot better on the 360 that's a cert!

contrary to popular opinion here, exclusives are very important, though bad for the consumer...

If MGS4 does go to 360, then PS3 owners are left with the reality that the picked the wrong format, a bitter pill to swallow

having MGS 4 as an exclusive made missing out on Halo 3, GoW, Lost Odysee and Fable 2 bearable, but if MGS 4 goes to 360, i've pretty much lost every excuse to have paid significantly more on a console with fuck all exclusives

Exclusives are what make a console what it is, if MGS 4 goes all we have left is Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and Wipeout Little Big Planet

i look forward to a single format future, id didnt kill the dvd business, it didnt kill the music business, and it wont kill the games industry

@Arbiter

"Neither Sony nor MS can win you berk. Nintendo have won already or haven't you noticed? "

LOL, You really do sound like a beaten dog. Where's all the bravado you and your SDF bum chums used to show? First it was "Nah, FFXIII will never never everz get a 360 releez yoo schoopid XBOTS lulz!" Then it was "Teh free6T kant never havez der Tekken innit blud ROFLZORZ!" etc, etc, but now (about 15 lost exclusives later) you fools don't even bother denying it anymore. You have finally realised that Sony are now Microsofts bitch! Enjoy your Blu-ray player and leave the proper games machines to the real men.

"If MGS4 does go to 360, then PS3 owners are left with the reality that the picked the wrong format, a bitter pill to swallow"

A rather moronic conclusion as 99% of games appear on both platforms. Yes, PS has more 3rd party 'exclusives' to 'lose' as it's had a longer history. And of course it makes getting a PS3 less necessary (if it's necessary at all) if you've got a 360 already but it goes the other way as well. TBH, I really don't understand people that get both.

"i look forward to a single format future, id didnt kill the dvd business, it didnt kill the music business, and it wont kill the games industry"

We don't need a single format to get generic, uninventive, no-risk releases. Happening right now on PS3 and 360 and no doubt the successors of those formats will converge more towards Wii-like machines and again we'll have three different machines running the same games, making sure their potentials remian untapped but at least the idiots (lowest common denominator) can shoot ugly aliens in the face...

But seriously, a single platform would be even worse for gaming and would basically be a PC. Low margin business for all involved as nobody will be able to establish a profitable OS monopoly on it again after the MS disaster. And it would be quite hard to get a single hardware standard with multiple companies manufacturing the thing, each trying to out-do the competition slightly. Which will lead to not all games working on all machines, which will lead to consumers getting confused and not bothering at all with gaming, basically repeating the current PC gaming fiasco.

@BritishBlue

AWTFAY? Listen you only joined up here to get your free SOCOM Beta key, you freeloading peasant! It's time you scuttled back to whatever gaybar you came from. Grow up, indeed!

it wont happen full stop. in the words of terry tibbs "thank you & goodnight much love"

& brittishblue, exactly, but as Les said, there is the danger of it basically turning into a PC in that case, but then again, what stopped CD player/dvd player manufacturers from having the same arms race?

A rather moronic conclusion as 99% of games appear on both platforms. Yes, PS has more 3rd party 'exclusives' to 'lose' as it's had a longer history. And of course it makes getting a PS3 less necessary (if it's necessary at all) if you've got a 360 already but it goes the other way as well. TBH, I really don't understand people that get both.

for people that can only get one, you have to choose the one that you think will play host to the exclusives you like more. if the console you side with loses thos exclusives, but the other format doesnt, then youve picked the loser, and although you can still play multi format games, your machine has nothing over the competitor, who's exclusives are still intact

"I had a 360 before I had a PS3 "

So what? You after a medal or something?

"Nintendo's dominance blah blopity bleh"

Who cares? The Wii is for fat middle aged women and little girls, there's a lot of them so it sells well.

"You are a tool"

You're a spasticated bucktoothed walrus with teh bad AIDS but who's counting?

Kryon, gamefaqs is that way --->

eurogamer is where (mostly) adults come to discuss games

It's not coming out for 360. Unless it's years later or shit.

Calm.

"for people that can only get one, you have to choose the one that you think will play host to the exclusives you like more. if the console you side with loses thos exclusives, but the other format doesnt, then youve picked the loser, and although you can still play multi format games, your machine has nothing over the competitor, who's exclusives are still intact"

That argument would have worked if the format one chose in the first place didn't have the exclusives anymore. Which isn't the case. The machine you chose loses nothing of its attractiveness by a title that you liked going multiplatform (besides the obvious deteriorated quality as it won't be able to take full advantage of the system's capabilities but that goes both ways as well). What the machine does lose is some of its competitive edge, which is relevant to the platform holder (which is why Sony invests heavily in 1st party software) but not to the consumer.

As we all know by now, because PS3 and 360 are both losers, HD games must be multiplatform if a publisher wants to make any money. Of course Sony will be hurt by that more than MS because of its larger legacy of 3rd party exclusives: A competitive edge that became unsustainable because of changes in the industry's economics, not much they can do about it. But like I said, doesn't matter for a consumer, after he/she has made her choice (which in most cases will be neither PS3 nor 360 in which case it's even more irrelevant).

@ Les

your missing the point

Yes you can still play MGS 4 even if it does go to 360

but if the PS3 lost all exclusives then it no longer has anything over its competitor, and you start to think "hey, if I got a 360 I could have played MGS 4 AND Halo 3, instead I got a PS3 and Just MGS 4, know what I mean?

@ FenderMaster

"eurogamer is where (mostly) adults come to discuss games"

and hippies with stupid hair who look like trannies, or so it seems from your profile pic.

aint nothin wrong with being a hippy Kryon

but if the PS3 lost all exclusives then it no longer has anything over its competitor, and you start to think "hey, if I got a 360 I could have played MGS 4 AND Halo 3, instead I got a PS3 and Just MGS 4, know what I mean?

Perhaps you mean: "hey, if I get a 360 I can play MGS4 and Halo 3, or I can get a PS3 and play MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet"

Your argument is weak, because you're trying to compare third party exclusives with first party ones, which BOTH consoles do have.

"wow such retards who own the 360 come on i bet all of you will buy it on the 360 and yes it is an amazing game but wait they would have to put it on about 4 disks and out another 4 gb on the hdd to play it and they would have to change the game in so many ways like when one of the guys said "please put in disk 2 oh yer it dosent need to because of the space of bluray" yer i know its not like that but its kinda like what he said if any one played it"

This is what you would call an irony bomb.

"i look forward to a single format future, id didnt kill the dvd business, it didnt kill the music business, and it wont kill the games industry"

Short memory I see, it's not a new concept and tried several times before, every time ending in a massive failure.

"TBH, I really don't understand people that get both. "

Heh.

"We don't need a single format to get generic, uninventive, no-risk releases. "

Yup, they can keep that on the wii, as long as the good games keep on coming to the 360 and ps3 as has been the case till now, I'm perfectly fine with that.

"AWTFAY? Listen you only joined up here to get your free SOCOM Beta key, you freeloading peasant! It's time you scuttled back to whatever gaybar you came from. Grow up, indeed!"

0_o

*looks back at original comment and ensuing train-wreck*

Damn, my precognitive powers are immense. Or it was just inevitable. But quite a few reasoned gems amongst the slurry, especially regarding actually porting the thing. Note to those who think it would be an impossibility - it's amazing what you can do with time, bloody good coders and a shitload of cash. All of the marketing gubbins? Easily changed. Have to ditch a mini-game? Sure someone's smart enough to design a new one. And disk-swapping? Not exactly rocket science, is it?

The question that everyone's completely failed to ask themselves is this: considering the afore-mentioned shitload of cash that would be required to get it out ASAP, would Konami make enough money out of it to make it a worthwhile venture in the first place?

@Arbiter

How do you know they didn't record 360 specific bits when they did the PS3 specific bits - they must have entertained the idea that it might one day make its way to the 360.

TBH I have no idea why any third party would do a platform exclusive unless the platform holder was giving them a kick-back of some sort.

I think its a good thing that there are fewer exclusives - it means that the games that are platform exclusive have to be a cut above the norm. Exclusive may turn out to be one of the key battle points of this generation - but Sony really need to look at their price point.

Personally I'd like to see a MGS3 remake on the 360 like the GameCube got with The Twin Snakes.

I say just port the damn thing, Sony references and all. its not like 360 owners are unaware of Sony's history, most of them probably having owned a PS1 or 2 at some point in their lives, or at the very least played a metal gear title on one.

its some free advertising for Sony and Apple, we'd probably get the jokes and i doubt any one would actually be offended, except for the hardcore fanboys, which lets face it, is probably a good thing.

If Schappert had the option of having MGS4 on the system, warts and all, or not having it at all, i dare say he'd choose the warts.

If it can be done, and it will make the company a large chunk of money for relatively less work (converting takes less time than building from scratch), then lets face it, shareholders will probably make it happen, not the baying of fanboys on forums.

sony is losing ground on console field...sad :-(

sony is losing ground on console field...sad :-(

"but if the PS3 lost all exclusives then it no longer has anything over its competitor, and you start to think "hey, if I got a 360 I could have played MGS 4 AND Halo 3, instead I got a PS3 and Just MGS 4, know what I mean?"

Halo is a 1st/2nd party exclusive (the IP is owned by MS) so if Halo's your thing there's nothing to go but 360. But believe it or not, there are quite a few people around that couldn't care less about Halo. Just as there are people around that don't care about Sony's 1st/2nd party titles (Killzone, Resistance, MotorStorm, LBP, GT, God of War, Ratchet, etc.) that can't be played on competing consoles as long as Sony's in the business. Deciding which console to get is a matter of looking at the 1st/2nd party titles that interest you most as the 3rd party platform exclusive has more or less died thanks to limited interest in HD consoles.

Schappert, just get down on your knees and beg for it in front of the gaming public...oh, you already have :)

http://www.gram.pl/upl/news/200810162029...

damn I put wrong link first time xD

x360 box ? ;p

Schappert would love to see mgs4 on the 360? I would love to see a new Grand theft auto exclusively on ps3 to take advange of all that space on blu ray but its not gonna happen

I would also love to see a new X-wing game

"starting to not trust eurogamer reviews... starting from now"

Started that long time ago. Still like to read them though.

http://www.gram.pl/upl/news/200810162029...

heh. ;)

You do realise that it would give the 360 version more than 5 times as much space as it takes up on the ps3, right? :D

"Neither Sony nor MS can win you berk. Nintendo have won already or haven't you noticed? "

The Wii is so different from the 360 and PS3 its like comparing different kind of products imo. The war is between the 360 and PS3 and the 360 is winning and even though i dont love MS the best should win and therefore i hope the 360 wins in this console generation ( long sentence i know lol). It might be different in the next generation. If the PS4 is superior to the Xbox 720 i hope the PS4 wins. I stick with the best anyway.

To my mind we have at the moment a set of Xbox games that have been designed for that architecture and have been ported over to the PS3 (and Wii); we also have those games developed for both consoles concurrently which, let's be honest, favour the Xbox platform. Then we have those games designed for the PS3.

What we haven't seen yet is any of those games being ported over to the Xbox. I for one would not only welcome this, but would hope that such a transfer proves to be very easy. With the amount of whining from both fanboys and developers over how difficult/nerfed current ports are, showing that going in the other direction is much simpler may encourage developers to prioritise the PS3 architecture over the Xbox platform.

At the very least it'd be nice to see hundreds of threads comparing still images from between the two versions and the Xbox fanboys having to defend their console for a change ;-)

muscleblade said
"The Wii is so different from the 360 and PS3 its like comparing different kind of products imo. The war is between the 360 and PS3 and the 360 is winning..."

I'm afraid you're wrong, because you're fighting the wrong war. As far as MS, Nintendo, Sony and their respective shareholders are concerned, the 'war' is for money and long term profitability. Personally, I'd say the Wii was kicking the other two all over the park on these terms.
The 'war' that the fanboys are interested in is for the best/most powerful/impressive/sexy console with the best/most powerful/impressive/sexy games. There is a common, incorrect assumption that victory in this ring leads to victory in the cash war.