SC: Conviction demo on Xbox Live
Echelon time since work began on this.
Tom Clancy has put a Splinter Cell: Conviction demo on Xbox Live.
We knew the demo was coming, but now it's available on the Xbox.com website we can tell you where to click and a bit more about it.
The sampler offers an infiltrate mission where a bunch of expendable lackeys are guarding some kidnapped scientists. You'll get to test Sam's new 'mark and execute' ability and try out the last-known position feature that shows where enemies think you are.
There's no co-op or split-screen or multiplayer on offer here, although there will be in the full game, which is due out 16th April on PC and Xbox 360.
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Bring back the old splinter cell !
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I'm still yet to complete SC: Chaos Theory and SC:Conviction. Been playing through Conviction lately and it has great moments but feels too sluggish so I'm looking forwards to this game. Going backwards is not the answer.
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I would have tried the demo before buying it, had they bothered to release one for the PC.
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I'm hoping this one is more flexiable and quick because I hardly ever use gadgets like smoke grenades and flash bangs. The controls are a bit too fiddly. This one looks good but the feedback hasn't been great so far. Maybe it will appeal new fans who haven't played the originals.
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Seriously though I am not as impressed as I'd hoped.
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It's even more ridiculous when the same demo is available to everyone on PSN. Not an issue with this game, obviously, but a few weeks ago the Darksiders demo was freely downloadable on PS3 but not available to Silver XBL members.
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But, I suppose their going for a new experinece. I'll play more when I get home and see what else you can do. It doesn't seem that bad, it's just a different game but they said to expect that.
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Half-Life 2, Stalker say hi.
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the words we've been waiting to hear for so long
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I was looking forward to this so much. It's absolutely rubbish. What's up with the Gears Of War style cover? Everything about this game is wrong. They've turned Sam Fisher into a sadistic vigilante dickhead as well. He used to be cynical, but light-hearted and sarcastic, now he's a joke. Another angry generic action hero.
/Angry
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To tackle some of these points. Someone saying 'oh, there's no choice, it's all setup for the push B moments'. Well erm, yes? It is a tutorial of how to play the game largely, as well as a show case of what's possible. Would you rather it just threw you in at the deep end with no idea what to do, so you kept dying and thought it was shit? Would you also prefer it if you didn't see any of the new cool stuff you could do. The demo's for the previous games weren't that different.
Someone saying 'I don't like the way you just press A to move from cover to cover' Huh? You don't like it to be easy to move around? You'd rather it was akward and clumsy? why?
As for the AI being thick, AI is always this way in stealth games by design. The difference here compared to many games is that it is very good at letting you know what the AI is doing so you can exploit it. Their reaction times and all the rest don't seem radically different to the other games. Maybe they spend a bit longer looking at your 'ghost' than the others, but this is a mechanic designed for you to exploit it.
So you can most likely tell I really enjoyed this. I resent people saying that 'true fans' who've been there since the first game can't possibly enjoy it. I loved the old games, I'm loving this demo.. played it through quite a few times to mess with all the options and see what makes the AI tick. The game is very well designed, the feedback to the player is fantastic. I think some people were just expecting the second coming of christ and now feel let down.
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... And before you blame me for not hating the game, I just want to say that I played and cleared a ton of stealth games, from the superb Tenchu 1 to the awful Vampire Rain. And that my favorite stealth game is Thief3, or maybe Hitman blood money.
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Have a word at work, tell 'em their DRM is crap Rymar.
EDIT - LOL he deleted it! I think someone at Ubi took offense you don't like the game guys!
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Gonna be playing the demo in acouple of hours.............bit scared after reading all the comments but ( if i remember correctly) the other games got lots of negative reactions too.
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LUN FOR YOU RIVES!
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I enjoyed it sure but it's bargin bin purchase, compare it to Batman AA's stealth/combat and it's pretty clear.
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I have the same problem. Annoying for sure.
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Ever since MS replaced my RRoD launch model with a newer one I had similar issues, however IIRC a warning pops up which you can circumvent if you insist until it finally caves in and let's you download it.
I'm sorry if I'm a bit vague about it, but I don't remember the exact words or terms displayed. But I'm sure that it eventually let's you download what is in your queue. Otherwise some paid content of mine (like Fallout 3's DLC I purchased over the Christmas promotion) would not have been downloaded and I would surely be pissed...
EDIT: As I've also added this demo to my queue from xbox.com and will download it later this evening, I'll take a note if there are any similar problems and will report back...
EDIT2: teh9182's comment is spot on. That's the exact wording I remember.
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I was just thinking the same thing, based on his previous posts.
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I'm looking forward to it. IMO, Splinter Cell has always been sort of a drag for me. Too much trial and error, with a very high focus on the error part of it. I'll be happy to get away from that and more into a free-flowing game.
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it makes you feel like an efficient killing machine imo, much better than double agent
Am sure this thread will get the fanboys + ing ang minusing like mad, but imo it's definatley worth trying the demo and making your own mind up...definately not like the other splinter cells, but i for one would take this over that any day.
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+1 Vyggo
They've clearly changed the template and have been very open about that from the beginning. Why people are suddenly saying, "this isn't like the other SCs!!!!" is far beyond me. Welcome to 2008, though... nice to see you've woken from your slumber!
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I'll go finish God of War III for now
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I don't think the demo really gives away enough to judge the full game.
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So the new Splinter Cell is actually the old Splinter Cell but in a new direction? Right.
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wat i meant is they said its in a different direction but to me it doesnt feel different at all
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Big thumbs up from me, no matter what the rabid traditionalist camp says.
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They whine if a game doesn't move from it's formula, yet cry if a game dares to change.
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The retail game probably will be much tougher. You will really have to earn your (B)Mark and execute since you can only get them by hand to hand take down. There will probably be areas where you have to plan out how you can get that guard over to your position to take him down so you can do your (b) move when there is more than 6 enemies on the screen.
There probably be levels of difficulty where Sam can only take one shot so you have to be very careful about your engagements and really execute your (B) moves or be dead.
Instead of trying to judge the entire game based on the demo, try to understand the mechanics and see if you like them. Try to picture more difficult scenarios things of that sort.
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I liked the old Splinter Cells but the controls were too clumbsy. Now, I'm able to sneak up on a foe, grab him and use him as a shield and take out two enemies with my pistol before an alert.
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The fun for me lay in replaying the demo a few times till everyone was killed without ever detecting me.
Really looking forward to this, anybody who watches 24 and wants to be "that kind of action hero" is in for a treat.
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They whine if a game doesn't move from it's formula, yet cry if a game dares to change. "
I wouldn't be so quick to judge all gamers as one and the same. I hated the demo, and not because it was 'different' to the SC franchise or 'a new direction', but because it was shit. I wanted it to be good, and I felt that the SC series did indeed need to be taken in a new direction (for want of a better phrase), but this is terrible.
The 'Mark and Execute' does exactly what you shouldn't do in a game - which is take the gamer out of the action and show him(/her) what they can't do themselves, the graphics are appalling for a game of this apparant standard and budget, and taking out the enemies is a simple case of 'run up and press B, and then press the OWN button to take out the next couple of guys, then run up and press B... and on and on'.
For series that prides itself on immersion and realism (the two things you'd think they'd keep consistent in the series), the demo really does seem to scream "GAME, GAME, I'M A GAME!" a lot. There's such obvious and cheap game design at work. It's like it's the first game they'd ever made, which is just not true.
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The graphics on the game are very good and as for the whole marking system, it's not like you have to use it is it? Ubi said many times they want players to play this how they want to, so if you want to sneak, take people out without being seen then go for it....If you want to go Rambo or Bourne on them, then you can do that also. I have played through the demo 4 times and you can actually play it like any of the previous SC games, so whats the problem?
They opened up the game for different types of gamers whilst providing the same experience for the old SC fans if they wish to play it that way.
To call this demo ' shit ' and ' terrible ' is quit extreme and stinks of troll/ps3 fanboi posting.
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I don't think it's as bad as some comments make out. At the end of the day the mark and execute feature is there if you want to use it. Try playing without using it and you get some more of the old SC back.
To be honest I'm thinking more Bourne than Bower when you do get into a spot of bother - more flowing combat and dynamic combat if you use CQC and the execute feature.
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If you play this like a straightforward shooter then your missing the point and lack imagination. Take Just Cause 2 for example. You can play that game like a straighforward shooter if you wanted but you'll be missing the point of the game.
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im just relived they didnt release that shoddy looking bum fights game from a couple of years ago.
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