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News by Robert Purchese

21 January, 2008

Quake co-creator John Romero has bitten back at Mike Wilson for the open letter attacking his personal life.

"Mr. Wilson needed to email Kotaku a nice long letter to recount his version of events at Ion Storm and slam my personal life - way to go Mike! Media manipulation at its saddest," snapped Romero on his blog. "It's analogous to a crotch shot of Britney in Hollywood's media circus."

It's the latest dig in an argument begun by Romero when he brought ex-Ion Storm colleague Wilson's working practices into question.

"Once again, just like with Godgames, Wilson is taking all the credit away from the indie devs and pasting his asinine logo everywhere," he claimed.

"People are now starting to get a clue about how Mr. Wilson operates. Hey everyone, he hasn't changed in over 10 years - these are the kinds of jackass stunts he pulled at Ion Storm."

But Mike Wilson was keen to set the records straight by responding in an open letter, reminding the public that there are two sides to every argument.

"While I am not at all interested in reliving those [Ion Storm] days, I will also not allow you to rewrite the history of it all, more to your liking and to my public detriment, and I will in no way take the rap for what you did (or didn't do) with your dream company," replied Wilson in his open letter on Kotaku.

Wilson goes on to dispute each of Romero's points, claiming he was never showered in money and self congratulation like others, and when he tried to save a sinking ship he was slung out of the door - thankfully, says Wilson, to greener pastures.

However, when the subject of Wilson's supposed wild party life was touched upon, he had less kind things to say.

"You should maybe try the partying, since your unparalleled work ethic and strong character has (just in the time I've known you) left only a bloody trail of ex-wives, fatherless kids, and ill advised breast implants strewn across this fair nation, even before you flew all the way to Romania for your latest wife."

And so things stand, with Romero keen for Wilson to do the talking through Gamecock's release schedule, which has so far amounted to 3/10 for sketchy action MMOG Fury.

Wilson is in London this week promoting his 2007-founded indie game publisher. Expect Round Four soon.

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mattigan
21/01/08 @ 10:47
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Oh dear
speedjack
21/01/08 @ 10:50
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Arguing on the internet.

Always a good idea.
JonFE
21/01/08 @ 10:53
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"Arguing on the internet.
Always a good idea.
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Surely for the by-standers, I assume :)
kangarootoo
21/01/08 @ 10:56
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Thats kind of embarrasing on both sides.

Wilson's letter is quite funny though ;)
mkreku
21/01/08 @ 11:00
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That's quite sad, to be honest. I really hope I won't have these kind of feelings towards my co-employees in ten years.
JonFE
21/01/08 @ 11:05
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In a way they had it coming, with all the hype surrounding Ion Storm's portrait.
zoidberg
21/01/08 @ 11:13
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Even though Romero's detestable "game-making" years are not behind him, to bring ex-wives and all into this is petty and downright moronic. Wilson has crossed the line, if there ever was one with Internet rows.
AcidSnake
21/01/08 @ 11:15
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That letter is really great...Though maybe making it an open letter wasn't all that nice...
Darkedge
21/01/08 @ 11:15
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hahahahahaha

Find them both pretty pathetic but Rome "suck it down" .ro wins the sadded idiot prize
Spanky
21/01/08 @ 11:16
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Romero had already got personal so Wilson's escalation was not unwarranted.
haowan
21/01/08 @ 11:20
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i actually find it incredible the proportion of people coming out in support of Wilson's retort
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21/01/08 @ 11:28
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Sad men the both of them.

Shame neither ever had anything going for them and really only fed off Carmack.
Cataferal
21/01/08 @ 11:29
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Yeah. Nobody cares.

Let's not encourage bitching and gossiping in the videogame industry; we get enough of it with hollywood celebs and popstars.
Gurgeh
21/01/08 @ 11:32
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If it's dirt you want you should look up the stories about Sigil and SOE.
DanWhitehead
21/01/08 @ 11:41
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There's no excuse for the low blows that Wilson delivered but since this was all started by Romero making (apparently) unprovoked personal and professional remarks about Wilson, it's a little rich for him to cry foul over insults.
marilena
21/01/08 @ 11:51
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Romero's story was interesting for a while, then funny for a while, but now it has become embarrassing more than anything. He should stay quiet at least until he makes a new game or something.

Wilson nobody gives a crap about :P.
repairmanjack
21/01/08 @ 12:08
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Wilson should just click the ignore button.
BlueDot
21/01/08 @ 12:32
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High profile slagging matches are always fun.
kangarootoo
21/01/08 @ 12:46
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"Romero had already got personal so Wilson's escalation was not unwarranted"

Well, its only warranted if you believe that childish escalating tit-for-tat arguments in public by grown men, who are also apparently professional developers in the public eye, is acceptable behaviour.

Like I said, I think its kind of embarassing all round.
LFMartins
21/01/08 @ 12:57
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Give them both rocket launchers,put them on a arena and let them resolve their differences.
Quake 5:Arena 2 - Shit got personal.
Dynamize
21/01/08 @ 13:01
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Oh dear. Sometimes the best retort really is "Whatever man.", and to leave it at that.
TheDifficult3rdAlbum
21/01/08 @ 13:05
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>just because id, Eidos, and then Midway fired you doesn't mean you're not still awesome!"

Ouch. This line is the bestest!
penhalion
21/01/08 @ 13:25
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Let's face it they are both complete prats. Wilson has been fired as many times as Romero, the difference is it must take a major muppet to be fired BY ROMERO! So in my book Wilson is 1 down.

If I remember correctly didn't take 2 have to fire Wilson after it turned out he was using their money to party instead of make games? Wasn't it borderline fraud. Given his gamecock antics it's only a matter of time before his current inverstors start to ask serious questions I would have thought.
drumm23
21/01/08 @ 14:36
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To my eyes, Wilson won that bout. Funny letter.
elredeyegrande
21/01/08 @ 16:00
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That Suck It Down remark at the end of Wilson's letter is genius!
Concrete
21/01/08 @ 16:18
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Whats really annoying is that Romero was (probably still is, if he put his mind to it) a brilliant level designer. Shame he can't just get on with making games instead of being dragged through the mud every year or so.
Shrike
21/01/08 @ 17:26
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Scrap! Scrap! Scrap! Scrap! Scrap!
kangarootoo
21/01/08 @ 23:45
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"Oh dear. Sometimes the best retort really is "Whatever man.", and to leave it at that."

Truth.


"is that Romero was (probably still is, if he put his mind to it) a brilliant level designer"

Level design is just one part of making a game though, as I'm sure you know. What Romero does these days is run companies and direct projects (his ability to do so obviously being the subject of much discussion).

If he returned to straight forward level design I'm sure the results would be great, but I doubt his contribution to the project would be able to justify his wage. And I don't see him taking a pay cut any day soon.
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21/01/08 @ 23:55
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And so things stand, with Romero keen for Wilson to do the talking through Gamecock's release schedule, which has so far amounted to 3/10 for sketchy action MMOG Fury.

A 3/10 and the destruction of one of the older Australian games developers, sadly.

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