Rockstar quiet on GTA details News

As has been pointed out in the other comments thread, it's quite clearly set in Liberty City, which has now been more closely modelled on NYC.

The only rumour I heard along those lines came from a retard in the comments section here saying PS3 would have 10 cities and 360 would have 3.

And I've read about every story/fan forum since the trailer came out.

Nifty; in which case, I'd like to start the rumour that the forthcoming MSX version will interface directly with your brain, thanks to the implementation of new sensolock feedback technology.

Slow news day?

"I heard that Rumour" said Vic

"I know ya did, I started it!" said Bob Purchase

Cue frying pan Tom Foolery'

"When we asked it about rumours that the PS3 version would contain more content than its Xbox 360 counterpart"

Wait what?

Must be a crappy rumour if I've only heard of this JUST NOW.

I'm no expert on data storage or compression, so I can't help but wonder how on earth GTA IV is going to fit on a DVD.

I heard the Mega Drive version will be the one to own, thanks to the power of Blast Processing.

The very fact the didnt reject the rumour says a lot itself the rumours have been coming from the GTA fansites for a while now . I expect it may be true but the 360 will have the same extra stuff only in downloadable form i think .

Life can be complicated...aye, but not if you are a Rockstar spokesperson. You dont get much more further away from complicated than "No comment".

"I'm no expert on data storage or compression, so I can't help but wonder how on earth GTA IV is going to fit on a DVD."

The same way that Oblivion, Saints Row, Crackdown and other similarly huge games did. Sony sure do have people believing that you could barely squeeze a 3D version of Pac-man on a DVD though.

I've actually heard that the 360 version is going to feature more cars, characters, better storylines and basically kick the butt of the PS3 version. The PS3 version is actually going to be a crappy port as well because the 360 is so much easier for devs to develop on.

Does that even things up on the rumour front? ;)

"Grand Theft Auto IV will be set in New York, and looks to follow an eastern European man"

Borat?

I'm no expert on data storage or compression, so I can't help but wonder how on earth GTA IV is going to fit on a DVD.

Probably stream it off the disc, but then i must weep for those who will/might play this game on the Xbox 360 core, I'm still pissed off at that package and might gimp GTA a little further.

Stick the downloadable content onto the Blu-Ray in the first place! ;)

@kelly's_h
in exactly the same way as previous versions did...
if push comes to shuv (however you spell that) they can always release a 2dvd game.

When we asked it about rumours that the PS3 version would contain more content than its Xbox 360 counterpart

Never heard of this rumor either. The rumor that each version will have the downloadable content released in a different order, however, that I would believe. Grand Theft Microtransactions it should be called.

"I honestly cannot answer any questions at all"

If he was being honest, he would have said that he WILL not answer any questions at all, not that he cannot.

Fetch the Car battery and have at him!

"I heard the Mega Drive version will be the one to own, thanks to the power of Blast Processing."

Yeah whatever!! The Super FX chip will allow the Empire State to look more real than ever before, and with Mode 7 there will be a special "Drunken Fighter Mode" where everything will constantly spin around.

if push comes to shove (this is how you spell that) they can always release a 2dvd game.

Of a GTA game? The universe would implode if that happened.

i've read that the ps3 version won't have any online play due to rockstars current financial problems, they won't be able to host online play. so xbox live will be the only place to wage war against ou're favorite rival russian mobster

"I'm no expert on data storage or compression, so I can't help but wonder how on earth GTA IV is going to fit on a DVD. "

WoW fits on a DVD. Nuff said.

i've read that the ps3 version won't have any online play due to rockstars current financial problems, they won't be able to host online play. so xbox live will be the only place to wage war against ou're favorite rival russian mobster

The only flaw in that dig is that p2p online play costs no-one any money to implement... except time.

If Rockstar was setting up dedicated servers for a MMO style online play... well.... :)

I guess so, and I have seen the evidence of huge games on DVD (Oblivion and Crackdown). But I still have a restless feeling about it. But like Dizzy said: "Nuff said".

But I still have a restless feeling about it. But like Dizzy said: "Nuff said".

Maybe it's because they fit so many little mini-games games inside the big game, and so much content, and missions, and sub missions, etc etc, that takes it's toll on the disc space that makes you feel uneasy?

I hope Rockstar really evolve what they started in Vice City with running business' beyond just picking up the cash after so many minigames, and improve capturing territory in San Andreas, the ideas that were great, but felt a bit shallow and bare compared to what they could have been wether it was time to establish and implement those ideas or just the technology itself we'll see....

i dont suppose anybody knows what the name of the soundtrack for this trailer is?

"Never heard of this rumour either. The rumour that each version will have the downloadable content released in a different order, however, that I would believe. "

I think the download extra's Should be called

Grand Theft Auto IV: Pants Down Project

I will resist buying ANYTHING that I feel should have been included to begin with.

Epic & Bungie - you have my vote on this one - all the other pull ya pant's down developers wide-eyed at CoD 2 map pack financial figures - be warned gamers much prefer to have success rewarded back to them rather than it being used to milk them.

Such milking ultimately results in splintering the core group IMO with those willing to fork out an those that are not - the impact being that people leave the product much quicker than they previously would have done.

Now if someone was to DOUBLE the size of a game - through cunning use of texture stealing from the game dvd for all but unique textures- thus only requiring the geometry mainly - to make it a real possibility AND offering experiences you could not have in the release AND offering the chance to use those abilities in the original product. I MIGHT that’s MIGHT be tempted lol.

Also I would like to add... why does it have to be a GIGANTIC city? I would prefer a smaller city with lots of stuff to do.

WoW fits on a DVD. Nuff said.

AFAIK WoW streams content off the hard drive, though; I've never played it, but I'd suggest the DVD is really just an archive to be uncompressed and copied to the HD (do you need it in the drive to play? is there no downloading-of-data before entering certain areas?).

I'd guess the rumours about different amounts of content stem from San Andreas struggling to fit onto a dual-layer DVD (I may be wrong, this is pretty hazy stuff I'm thinking); although perhaps the greater power of new consoles allows some sort of funky on-the-fly procedural texture generation, etc, to prevent less space being required?

Also I would like to add... why does it have to be a GIGANTIC city? I would prefer a smaller city with lots of stuff to do.

They made their bed with San Andreas now they've got to lie in it.

"AFAIK WoW streams content off the hard drive, though; I've never played it, but I'd suggest the DVD is really just an archive to be uncompressed and copied to the HD (do you need it in the drive to play? is there no downloading-of-data before entering certain areas?). "

FFS do we *need* to go through all this again?????? COMPRESSED STUFF LOADS FASTER OFF A DVD SINCE SPEED OF DVD IS SLOWER THEN UNCOMPRESSING DATA WITH A CPU. PC people just save on a HDD so they will be able to patch data and because they won't need the DVD to play (and ofc faster loading because of the super speed of a HDD). BUT THE DATA ON THE HDD IS STILL COMPRESSED!

Phew.... I think I started explaining this in the 90s and I am still doing it.

Why can't we have double-sided DVD's that hold 18 GB ?

Not great for streaming Cities in GTA IV but I am sure they it could have other applications - i.e. Gears of War 2 which is very linear.

And once you have the textures - geometry takes up nowhere near the same memory footprint - might as well make it massive.

Although for size I did feel Crackdown was almost identical to GTA3 - and did feel a little small for me - maybe thats due to me playing the demo so many times!

I assume that Rockstar have developed some kind of crazy compression to make the game fit onto a DVD.

The only PS3 advantage is likely to be in the sound department. Blu-Ray could enable them to fit a load more music on, and bump up the sound... assuming the machine's internal memory (which is causing some devs problems) can handle it.

360 is going to have exclusive downloadable content, of course. I wonder if PS3 will too. And what about multiplayer?

Loved the trailer, by the way.

Dizzy - it was earlier even than that wasn't it - uncompressing on the old Amiga A500 was faster than the floppy.

Benzino: It's from the soundtrack to Koyaanisqatsi by Philip Glass, I think that track is called "The Grid". The trailer's been done to resemble that section of the film as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koyaanisqatsi

They've already said that PS3 will also have exclusive downloadable content

I've heard of DVD-18... but apparently manufacturing is/was hideous, making it cheaper & easier to split over 2 discs.

"I'd guess the rumours about different amounts of content stem from San Andreas struggling to fit onto a dual-layer DVD (I may be wrong, this is pretty hazy stuff I'm thinking)"

The hype from Rockstar just before the launch of San Andreas was that they were (half-jokingly) worried about being able to fit all of its awesomeness onto a single dual-layer DVD.

Turned out that the DVD was packed to the limit but a large proportion of it was junk files - the assumption being that it was an attempt to frustrate piracy due to the (then) relative scarcity of dual-layer DVD burners

>The only PS3 advantage is likely to be in the sound department

True... R* would be crazy not to fill the Bluray version to the brim with soundtracks.

You play as an illegal asylum seeker!

WOOOOOO!

...the assumption being that it was an attempt to frustrate piracy due to the (then) relative scarcity of dual-layer DVD burners...

I'm turning in anybody I see selling pirate copies of GTA IV, really. :)

"They've already said that PS3 will also have exclusive downloadable content "

IIRC they've already said the 360 will have exclusive content too. I heard a rumour that the PS3 version is 2d only so it can run at 1080p which is the only real high definition, and comes on 3 Blu-Ray disks except in Europe where two of the disks will be software emulated instead.

>I'm turning in anybody I see selling pirate copies of GTA IV, really. :)

That would be the Russian maffia. A strange irony I would say.

LOL

Yeah, both platforms are supposedly getting exclusive downloadable content. That's kinda what I meant by "also" :)

But I like the sound of your PS3 version tbh :)

Borat game done using GTA gameplay mechanics. FTW ;)

@Steroyd
shit, busted ;)

i have heard a rumour that GTA IV will have hookers, anyone else heard anything about this?

"have heard a rumour that GTA IV will have hookers, anyone else heard anything about this?"

Yeah, in the trailer, the containers on the ship are full of them. 1$ and 2$.

He looks and sounds Arabic, ffs. Not Eastern European!

Me thinks that Rockstar aren't done yet with the surprises. By reusing the lay out of Liberty City and bringing it up to date with sexy graphics, they have probably used their time developing another city (probably Russia somewhere the polar opposite to the wealth of LC)... I dunno. I think this is a bit of a smokescreen when what they are really saving up to show us the new locations they have created. Snow hasn't been done yet in a GTA game has it?