Rockstar's Agent due out in 2010 News

Agent will sell a truckload of slim PS3s.

Edit: Many, many truckloads.

>Agent will sell a truckload of slim PS3s.

Ha! So 2010 year of the PS3?

"[...] show us a "whole new way of experiencing videogames""

Que!? So it'll use the wand and stereoscopic goggles? Or just "press x AND y to not die"? Hate those claims... -_-

"Agent will sell a truckload of slim PS3s. "

Why? I never heard of it before. It's not like GTA, where every gamer and their grandma know about it.

"rockstars ps3 exclusive" i very much doubt this game will not get a xbox360 release.either at the same time or a few months later than the ps3. it would be too many sales to turn down esp. if you compare sales of GTA4, MC la etc which allways favour the msoft console.

agent will be cool as fuck. goldeneye crossed with GTA.

its being developed on the ps3 from the ground up. they are making full use of the BR drive. far beyond the pathetic 7GB the 360 has.

you cant have a sandbox game in parts. no 360 version. keep dreaming.

@eraser- all they need to do is on the advert say "from the makers of grand theft auto"

which im sure they will.

even without this, the game will speak for itself.

people marking me down... tell me a multi-disc sandox game?

impossible on 360. suck on them sour grapes!

I'm not sure Rockstar can rely on their name alone, I mean look at Manhunt, bully and The Warriors. They are great games, but didn't exactly set the tills on fire.

@ Grasshopper, I can't tell you a multi disc sandbox game, but I can tell you plenty of single disc sandbox games. I don't want to get into an argument with you, because you look like one of those people that can't be proved wrong, no matter how biased and uninformed there opinions are, but I think the days of single console exclusives are limited, if nothing else, but for financial reasons.

since this game will be more than double the size of a single DVD, single disc sandboxers are irrelevant.

unless your talking about a BR disc. which you werent.

and theres a difference between rockstar and rockstar north.

and sony are providing a lot of support on this one. they can afford to go exclusive, and the game will benefit from doing so.

There is nothing in the article about the game fully utilising a BR disc. Plus, most games have the same data on multiple places on a BR so the read header doesn't have to move as much, thus improving read speeds.

@ svd_grasshopper.

Thats a much more dignified response than I was judging by your average post.

Single disc sandboxes aren't irrelevant, because your question enquired about "multi disk", and the point I was making was that so far, every sandbox game for the xbox has only required one disc.

I'm aware of the difference between Rockstar, and Rockstar North, but the added, or minus of the word "north" is hardly going to make much difference is it? You me and johnny gamer are aware of the talents behind rockstar, and that generally its a name you can trust, but I would wager that 75% of the people who "know of" (notice my use of know of - I mean the parents, and the not so serious gamers etc) GTA, couldn't tell you the people behind it, they know the brand.

Finally, your point about Sony being behind it. I am 100% confident that the game will turn a profit, thats not what I'm saying. The point I'm making is that by sticking to one console, your cutting your profits. Even you must understand that releasing a game to only 1/2 of next gen console owners (and PC people don't forget) is limiting income. Limiting, but not eradicating.

This might actually make me get a PS3, it sounds awesome. For my wallet's sake I hope it gets a 360 release though, and I don't see why that would be impossible. Worst case scenario would be some disk swapping required.

every sandbox game has required one disc (dvd) because it was also on 360, which can only take a dvd.

one of the housers openly said they needed more space for their next game and asked microsoft to get a storage solution sorted. they said "our games arent getting any smaller".

you cant disc swap in a sandbox game. you need to move freely as you wish with no interuptions. and since this game is actually a contract exclusive, MS couldnt get it even if they had blu-ray.

My understanding of the exclusivity was that Sony are doing quite a lot to help out Rockstar North with the tech stuff on agent.
Therefore it is very unlikely to be released elsewhere.

Tech stuff? As in, "how to program for PS3?"? X)

If they said they needed more space then okay. Most space is used for textures and sounds (or cg movies if you are a japanese developer) - not code.
My point about BR discs still stands. It is a known fact and disregarding it is just another sign of being "special". It is very likely that Agent will use this as well.
As for space, it IS possible that X360 will allow developers to install files (extract) onto a HDD in the near future. However, as some developers have pointed out, when you have a game that uses more space than a DVD9 then you are normally either spending too much time in developing or "doing it wrong".

no, many games have branched out into multiple dvds, are they doing it wrong?

IDs rage for example. lead on pc, but had to be resectioned into hubs to suit the 360. pc and ps3 could have had the original version not catered for chopping the game up into disc swap-friendly sections.

rockstar will be pushing the boundaries on this game. they like to be creative, like ID. im glad they choose a system where space wasnt an issue. did you not read the story about GTA4 maxing out the limits of dvd? thats with tricks employed and always having to be aware of what the lowest common denominator could handle.

no cross platform, no worries.

most pc games go well over one DVD. GTA4 on consoles was 9GB (because of 360) the pc version was 16GB. or did they just get it wrong on pc?!

this will really turn the PS3's fortunes around. Much like Bully made PS2 sales accelerate.

i.e. not at all.

rockstar vancouver, not a sandbox. no comparison.

this is the 'next GTA' whether you realise it or not.

you'd be slebbering all over it if you had a ps3, of course.

PC had higher resolution textures. PS3 wouldn't be capable of using those anyway. It was already struggling.

@svd_grasshopper: In simple terms? Yes.

I doubt if people who have yet to buy a PS3 will differentiate between Rockstar Vancouver and Rockstar North, and whether that made any difference to the sales of Bully.

It's not like Manhunt set the charts alight either. Face it, GTA is the brand, not Rockstar North or Rockstar sandboxes.

take your head out your ass.

dvd was last gen.

every single gen, the games require more and more space. its called progression. but suddenly not now?! when games are in HD resolution? dvd is getting tired for games. many ps3 and pc games go way beyond one dvd.

many devs have spoken out, bizare, rockstar, ID.

forza 3 coming up, thats 2 discs. and thats a racing game.

again, they must have gotten it wrong... dick.

sandboxes are as popular are FPS's.

look at the lame saints row 2. even that did well.

a new rockstar sandbox is going to be a very big thing. only 360 owners who cant get it would say otherwise.

I'd love to know how you know so much about this game SVD....or are you just talking out of your arse, as usual?

everything ive said is fact.

you'd know that if you read the interviews on here a while ago the rockstar people have done.

fanboy tosser. marking all my posts down. lamer. i boosted from cvg to get away from pretentious fags like you... please go back there.

I did, but I don't recall them coming out with some of the utter rubbish you've been spouting....again - do you have some kind of inside information about the development of 'The Agent'?

If not - do shut up.

what difference would Agent being a big seller or not make to 360 owners?

not that I have either console. It will probably end up on PC anyway.

No - you've never left CVG. In fact, we really wish you would....it's nothing to do with us being pretentious, it's all about you being an utter knob.

Grow up.

what have i said that wasnt confirmed in the interview?

you need the points bulleted and displayed as a headline to foam over with your fanboy postings.

read between the lines (theo)

this is the 'next GTA' whether you realise it or not.

no, I think the next GTA will be called GTA IV: Vice City.

All I see by quickly skimming over linked articles is a PR guy (Take-Two Bossman, read, not a programmer) saying that PS3 "better suited" Agent. But no mention of in what way. While I agree that X360 has its limits I won't agree that DVD "has seen its day". It is still used almost everywhere in the world of PC and due to its high reading speeds probably won't ever go away in the console world.
BR is nothing but a reinvention of the wheel rather than a improving it - as far as I see it. PS3 has nothing to do with it.

This PR reply hardly is informative at all, is it?

A lot of fanboys here. I think this game sounds amazing, I've always wanted an openworld spy game and would love a 70s setting but it's perfectly possible to split the game map in two and swap discs when you cross into the next area. Vice City and GTA3 had annoying loading times between areas but it didn't destroy the gaming experience. Tons of PS1 games came on multiple discs. All this magic of blueray talk is pretty stupid. Sounds like the real reason this doesn't seem to be coming to 360 is sony throwing a bunch of money at Rockstar, just like MS did with the GTAIV DLC.

And like mentioned above it could have an install disc and a play disc and so eliminate swapping. PS3 fanboys are familiar with installs, right....

annoying load times is different to disc swapping

the missions in IV involved constantly crossing the bridges.

sony contracted a game for ps3 by rockstar years ago. this is it.

thats why they could afford to go over one dvd. because they know it isnt cross platform.

I don't really see the merits of the quantity over quality argument here.

It's not like the blu-ray disc solves the problem that the PS3 has with getting decent graphics at a decent resolution and a decent framerate; in fact they make no difference. So basically it seems like it will just be a bigger, choppy, laggy edition of GTA IV.

id be jealous too if my system wasnt getting the next big rockstar game.

ad hominem? A pity.

Humm, will the latest rockstar game persuade the 360 loving crowd to convert to the ps3 (slim or fat)?
probably not
(Not after the farce that was GTAIV)
oh and svd_grasshopper saints row 2 rocked, not an argument, a fact

SR2 is cheap trash.

fact.

Sheesh. SR2 was amazing FOR ME. It might not be amazing for anyone else but I liked it quite a bit (mostly because the storyline somehow reminded me of a 90s movie).
We can't say weither Agent will be good or not because we haven't really gotten any concrete info on it in the forms of screenshots or gameplay. Not until then can we estimate how good the game itself is.
Weither the game is good or not has nothing to do with weither it is on BR or not.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I haven't read a single word that pertains to Agent being an openworld game. In fact SCEA boss Jack Tretton is quoted as saying, it "will take a player across the globe amid the shadowy world of espionage and assassins in the darkest hours of the 1970s". So if anything, surely a game where you will be off globe trotting around the world, will mean it very likely won't be an openworld game, as I think even Rockstar don't have the resourses to make a planet sized open world just yet.

as some developers have pointed out, when you have a game that uses more space than a DVD9 then you are normally either spending too much time in developing or "doing it wrong".

Whoever said that is so wrong and probably only makes causal games :) Do you know how much space sound files take up alone in a game these days? If its a AAA game then its alot. From a graphics point of view, as games get higher level of graphics etc then of course the amount of space required is going to get higher. If you look back to the days of the spectrum when only tapes were available, many games were on double sided tapes and some on multiple tapes as they couldnt fit the game on one tape alone. That was only a 48K machine ;)

So anyone who thinks DVD is enough is crazy :)... MS were kinda unlucky with their timing...they knew Sony were backing Blu-Ray, and they knew they couldnt put that in their system, they didnt want to risk backing HD, the extra cost and supporting a system that might not win. So they decided to go with DVD knowing that some games were definately going to exceed it in the future midway through the life cycle.

The interesting thing will be what MS do in the future... they need a better storage solution than DVD... if they have any sense they will go for Blu-Ray, but that might be too bitter a pill to swallow. I dont see any other possible way (and please dont go on about digital content only being the way...).

Super high res textures and super good sound quality haven't really got any home on the current generation of consoles. Currently those are reserved for high end PCs. Next generation consoles will support those super high res and super quality sound much better.