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Rock Band 2 Comments by Tom Bramwell

8 October, 2008

Time to get back together.

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KingOfIceland
08/10/08 @ 12:44
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Is this actually coming out soon?
andywilkie35
08/10/08 @ 12:45
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I heard 21st of November but then that could just be a massive lie that I heard

either way, I want this. I still play Rock Band pretty much everyday, too fucking good
andywilkie35
08/10/08 @ 12:49
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shame that they've made it a lot harder, I liked Rock Band because on expert for the most part it was still a challenge but at least I could enjoy it and get to the end of the song, unlike Guitar Hero III where it was just stupid.
woodnotes
08/10/08 @ 12:53
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GHIII expert mode wasn't hard, it was just lame. They've even released DLC tracks that are literally impossible to play, so they have to patch them.

That's what happens when you try to emulate what Harmonix invented.
StevilKnevil
08/10/08 @ 12:53
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Love RB even though Im crap at it, will be getting this. When is it out EG?
jaluuk
08/10/08 @ 12:54
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More of my money will still go on GHWT though - I like their drum set more.
yupyup
08/10/08 @ 12:55
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The new Xbox ads airing in the UK say "Rock Band out now, Rock Band 2 out in November"

Quite like the idea of drumming to my own mp3s.
kinky_mong
08/10/08 @ 12:56
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Despite the fact that this is (rumoured to be) released in November at the same time as 7 other games I want, if it comes out at the same time as my November pay cheque and I can convince my housemate to chip in a bit I'm definitely getting it. The first one is far too good, so if the second one irons out all the faults then this will be amazing.

Can't say I agree with the reviewers claim of a tracklist with no bad tunes (Living On a Prayer, the worst song ever unless you are a drunken idiot who frequents meat-market cheese clubs, is on there for fucks sake!) but if it only cost about £4 to get the tracks off of the first disc then there's no complaining here. Incidently does anyone know if you can do this on multiple machines with 1 disc?
actionfitz
08/10/08 @ 12:57
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if they try to wallet-rape us Europeans again they can fuck right off.
I see that for GHWT you can buy the game and 1 guitar... probably all I would need - fucked if i have space for huge peripherals about my flat. :/
That_Happy_Cat
08/10/08 @ 13:00
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Thanks to all those (*%*&(%^( in the city, one copy of Rock Star is now worth more than my house.
myiagros
08/10/08 @ 13:01
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PS3 version is available on import from the US on the 19th October. Region Free Gaming ftw.

I get friends round for a couple of hours, once a week to play Rock Band. We all love it!!

Hopefully the drum trainer will finaly get my foot going indepentantly of my hands.
MilkYMoO
08/10/08 @ 13:05
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I wanna rock!.
Zomoniac
08/10/08 @ 13:05
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More of my money will still go on GHWT though - I like their drum set more.

Have you played it or are you wildly speculating?
SomaticSense
08/10/08 @ 13:06
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Re: front page pic

He's poking himself in the eye with the mic!?
nickthegun
08/10/08 @ 13:11
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How much harder is the 'Expert' level? It was the perfect difficulty level for me on the original and I dont really want to drop back down to a slower, yet more artificially difficult Hard mode like on GH.

Also, are the note charts still, arguably, more fun to play than the GH ones?
Beano
08/10/08 @ 13:13
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"Where is the goddamn release date AAAAAAAAAGH"

Yes... EG... give us a release date, goddammit !!!

:)
Zomoniac
08/10/08 @ 13:16
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Yes, how much harder is it? I finished GH1 and 2 on hard, got to the last block on 3 on hard and couldn't progress more than halfway on 2/3 on expert (got to BATM on 1 expert but never finished it). On RB I got all the way to GG&HT on expert (but never more than 94% through that track despite thousands of tries), and preferred it that way.
Garulon
08/10/08 @ 13:17
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How can you review this without a release date EG? I mean thanks but is this a deliberate attempt to enrage me? Do Want!
3william56
08/10/08 @ 13:20
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"and for a one-off fee of 400 Microsoft Points (GBP 3.40 / EUR 4.80) it's possible to import 55 songs from the original Rock Band, "

Yeah, because they just don't have quite enough of your money. That's a stinker, right there.
jaluuk
08/10/08 @ 13:28
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@Zomoniac I've played RB's drums and I prefer the look and the raised cymbals of GHWT, as well as the apparent difference in the way they work (I only have the interviews word for that though).

Yes Rock Band's people talk about all the extra snap on bits they could do but that's guaranteed to cost extra. Best to get WT's instruments and then RB the game if all else fails.
sanctusmortis
08/10/08 @ 13:32
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@3william56: 1 song = 160MSP, 55 = 400MSP, and you complain? It's a convenience thing: gaining 55 tracks for RB2 and being able to trade it in is pretty good, you ask me.
dr_faulk
08/10/08 @ 13:40
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A nice Christmas present for myself, then.
Futaba
08/10/08 @ 13:41
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what of that massive bug you reported the other day? And what was the Eurogamer band? Or did you review this purely on singleplayer? (º◇~)♭
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08/10/08 @ 13:44
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The Rock Band 1 songs should automatically be free to those who've bought both games imo. I can't believe that being charged twice for the same content is a good thing for consumers given the amount of money that Rock Band and its peripherals cost in the first place.

I think I'll wait for GHWT anyway - I much prefer the run-on notes. It actually made the complex guitar solos playable - something I found fun, instead of a chore. Has there been any change to the way the lead guitar plays other than the adjusted difficulty curve?
nickthegun
08/10/08 @ 13:48
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I think they charge the fee because they have to relicense all the RB1 songs to use in RB2.

They dont own the rights to use them for whatever they want, in perpetuity.
Feanor
08/10/08 @ 13:49
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"That's what happens when you try to emulate what Harmonix invented."

Guitar Freaks says hi.
Apologie
08/10/08 @ 13:56
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this game and guitar hero are the most pointless games in history.... if you want to play guitar do it for real and not with a plastic 3 button piece of shit in your hands.
kinky_mong
08/10/08 @ 14:03
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this game and guitar hero are the most pointless games in history.... if you want to play guitar do it for real and not with a plastic 3 button piece of shit in your hands.

With that logic anyone who plays CoD4 is wasting their time and should join the army. When are you heading off to Iraq then?
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08/10/08 @ 14:05
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@Apologie

"this game and guitar hero are the most pointless games in history.... if you want to play guitar do it for real and not with a plastic 3 button piece of shit in your hands."

Yeah and forget Counter Strike or COD4 just go postal in a local school or shopping center with an AK47, what about every sports game ever made just get out there and sign for Man U forget Fifa. What a stupid and pointless comment.

farticusmaximus
08/10/08 @ 14:06
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Hehe, award goes to Apologie for being the first one to post that stupid argument.

I play real guitar quite well thanks, and I play guitar hero. I enjoy both, and both are very very different.
Waldo
08/10/08 @ 14:07
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Didn't take long for the obligatory "If you want to play a guitar, buy a real guitar!" snob comment to get posted.
sharky_ob
08/10/08 @ 14:08
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Apologie, as always your comments live up to your reputation. What's the matter, not being released on the PS3 soon enough for you?

I play real guitar (bass first and foremost), and Rock Band is still amazing. I've actually learned some drumming skills from playing the first one, can't wait for this.

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yupyup
08/10/08 @ 14:18
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Apologie, you have Fight Night 3 on your owned games list. Please take up boxing and get beaten to a pulp.

Garulon
08/10/08 @ 14:19
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Or Pain (it's a PS3 exclusive of course he'll have it) and throw yourself under a bus.
Garulon
08/10/08 @ 14:31
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Also, Rock Band isn't just guitar - drumming and singing are well, just like drumming and singing; it's just the guitar that's simplfiied. Because it's a game. Why do the "buy a real guitar" people make me so angry? Why do EG review a game and not tell us when it's coming out? Why isn't this out in the UK yet? WHY?
Garulon
08/10/08 @ 14:32
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Is it to make me even more angry?

I DEMAND AN ANSWER! Ragghh!
Arwin
08/10/08 @ 14:37
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There were some complaints though after some longer play experience in last week's Player One podcast, that I don't think I've seen return in this review. Among this is that during career mode there's a lot of random set-lists to deal with that can at times pick songs that are impossibly hard, songs you really hate, or worst, a combination of both. They suggested that you should be able to exlude certain songs from this mode if possible. They did mention that the drum-trainer is quite good.

There's a big risk on importing the PS3 version though isn't there? Typically, DLC isn't region free, for some annoying reason, and so you need to be able to purchase DLC using a U.S. account from the U.S. store as well.

I think I'm going for Guitar Hero and then use those instruments for Rock Band 2 whenever that comes out.
andywilkie35
08/10/08 @ 14:37
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"this game and guitar hero are the most pointless games in history.... if you want to play guitar do it for real and not with a plastic 3 button piece of shit in your hands."

I personally am very accomplished at guitar, bass and piano, but this is still great fun if you get some mates together.
Goodfella
08/10/08 @ 14:42
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]AWESOME on the xbox360.


On the ps3 not so good ![


Oh God, it's that moron again.

Funny though because technically it's better ont he PS3 due it having a wireless guitar.
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08/10/08 @ 14:43
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"and for a one-off fee of 400 Microsoft Points (GBP 3.40 / EUR 4.80) it's possible to import 55 songs from the original Rock Band, "

Yeah, because they just don't have quite enough of your money. That's a stinker, right there.


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The Rock Band 1 songs should automatically be free to those who've bought both games imo. I can't believe that being charged twice for the same content is a good thing for consumers given the amount of money that Rock Band and its peripherals cost in the first place.

Bloody hell. Some people are never happy.

All the RB songs ARE automatically free to those who've bought both games. In the same way that all the GH/2/3 songs are available to anyone who's bought all those games. Just, y'know. Put in the other disk.

Personally, three quid to have all the songs nicely integrated into a tuned-and-tweaked whole? Unbelievable bargain, and hopefully it'll set a new standard going forward for any game of this type. If you don't agree, don't pay. Entirely up to you.
designerheadache
08/10/08 @ 14:47
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all this plastic toy malarky is far too expensive for the likes of me.
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08/10/08 @ 14:48
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Among this is that during career mode there's a lot of random set-lists to deal with that can at times pick songs that are impossibly hard, songs you really hate, or worst, a combination of both. They suggested that you should be able to exlude certain songs from this mode if possible.
This.

The other feature I'm desperate for in RB3 - backing vocals. How groovy would that be?
patchbox360
08/10/08 @ 14:54
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glad for the 9 but should have got a 10, the more kids play virtual guitars the less they should actually play real ones, rock music dies, alls well that ends well
Garulon
08/10/08 @ 15:04
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"Funny though because technically it's better ont he PS3 due it having a wireless guitar"

360 version is wireless. All the controllers are wireless this time around, so not any more!

Technically the 360 version is better because we get songs two days before you lot. Ha!
metalnut
08/10/08 @ 15:07
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I still can't understand why people whine about the RB1 strum bar. I owned GH1-3 and have a GH3 Les Paul, and I still prefer the RB Strat. Sure the strum bar is weird at first, but it is *much* better for up & down strumming than the triangle shape on the Les Paul, and the ridges at the top & bottom of the neck buttons make orientation after quick slides much easier.
farticusmaximus
08/10/08 @ 15:19
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"Funny though because technically it's better ont he PS3 due it having a wireless guitar."

I was under the impression that both the PS3 and 360 releases of rawkband 2 had wireless guitars but wired drums.

Also, the PS3 version requires a USB dongle for wireless.

Can anyone confirm this?
Goodfella
08/10/08 @ 15:21
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Technically the 360 version is better because we get songs two days before you lot. Ha!

Technically you don't because I have a 360 as well as a PS3 (and a Wii but I don't like to mention it).

Anyway, my comment was in respect of Rockband, not Rockband 2.
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kinky_mong
08/10/08 @ 15:32
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I was under the impression that both the PS3 and 360 releases of rawkband 2 had wireless guitars but wired drums.

I thought all the peripherals were wireless for number 2, and I've read the drums drain the batteries quicker than a Game Gear. I'd much rather have a wired drum kit because it's not as if I'm going to be moving the kit all over the place while I do my Keith Moon impression.
Garulon
08/10/08 @ 15:38
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"Technically you don't because I have a 360 as well as a PS3 (and a Wii but I don't like to mention it)."

"Anyway, my comment was in respect of Rockband, not Rockband 2. "

Huzzah for big stack-o-console guys :)

Like all RIGHT THINKING PEOPLE I use the GH III X-plorer controller on the 360 anyway, as the RB1 strat is absolute cack and impossible to get Overdrive on, although as mine makes a funny noise when you shake it it could be mine being broken...
andromeda
08/10/08 @ 16:03
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when oh when will these music games with their horrible graphics FUCK OFF!!

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