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Resistance 2 Comments by Dan Whitehead

5 November, 2008

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Les
05/11/08 @ 18:47
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"HL2 was awesome all over to the max times 10. The narrative is conveyed in game, and from the ambience of the world itself. I got a pretty good idea of what had happened and what was happening simply from the jumpsuits, flying cameras and the still brilliantly-animated Alyx and co."

Yeah, think Valve are dicks but HL2 is an amazing game. Looks fantastic, better than any UE3 game with their overdose of fancy tricks and horrible lighting. It's understated art direction makes the game world more realistic than any other (e.g. next to HL2 Bioshock's art direction and level design is a joke). It tells a story as good as gaming as a medium is capable of and the audio is great too (the Combine samples are almost as good as the Helghast ones of KZ1).
Les
05/11/08 @ 18:50
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"Even Gears of War wasn't exactly original since the cover tactic has been used in other games before that, it was just that it was one of the few games to put everything together into one neat little fun package."

I'm sure lots of pixels had something to do with its success too... ;)
old skool
05/11/08 @ 18:52
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Come on Dan Whitehead, count those frames, I know you want to...
bad09
05/11/08 @ 18:55
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HL2, HL2, HL2. blah, blah, blah!

Am I the only one who thought HL2 was, just a tad overrated and...well....just a little bit...boring?

/ runs!!!!!
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Les
05/11/08 @ 19:01
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"Am I the only one who thought HL2 was, just a tad overrated and...well....just a little bit...boring?'

I guess so... :p
Apologie
05/11/08 @ 19:02
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i think HL2 its a little bit overrated too, but still a very good game... FPS that i really enjoy playing, Crysis (PC), Crysis Warhead (PC), 007 Goldeneye (N64), COD 4 (Pc, PS3 and XFIXME), QUAKE 2 and, yeah ok, HL2.
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Scimarad
05/11/08 @ 19:11
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lol @ the first paragraph. You could have just admitted how much you screwed up the review of the first one if you wanted to 'excuse' the good score:-)
myke6699
05/11/08 @ 19:17
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Considering this is EG- it's better than GoW2- Wow, 360 fanboys hide their face in shame. Now that we know that Fable II is shit and that Fallout 3 looks just as good on the PS3 (actually better), and Killzone2 will trump them all. Mark my word.
trebell
05/11/08 @ 20:09
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"Considering this is EG- it's better than GoW2- Wow, 360 fanboys hide their face in shame. Now that we know that Fable II is shit and that Fallout 3 looks just as good on the PS3 (actually better), and Killzone2 will trump them all. Mark my word. "

dear me.

no.. they both got 9/10 in one of the most unbiased sites around (which only a one eyed brand junky who's sadly missing a lot this gen being so blinkered could miss) because they are both geat.

no amount of spin changes facts.

oh and Fable 2 is awesome (how would you know as you'll neverplay it or open your mind enough to even try) and Fallout 3 is quite a bit worse on PS3.. having the choice of both means we don't have to make shit up to feel better.

fuck sake.. why does every comment section on a good game get ruined by this piffle?

OH and.. thanks Insomniac.. sounds like you have fixed every thing I disliked about the first.. now this is on my horribly bloated buy list.. darn this winter and it's stunning games.
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captainrentboy
05/11/08 @ 21:11
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Nooooooo, the desire to spend £300+ before christmas is growing......
Why couldn't it have been shit dammit? Between this and killzone 2 I don't think I can delay the purchase any longer :/ My girlfriend is going to punch my face in, the money I blow on gadgets is getting silly.
marronthered
05/11/08 @ 22:25
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i didnt expect this after the non showing of resitance 2 in eurogamer's top ten games in their expo in london.
the beta was cerrtainly more colourful and i had hoped for a good single player campaign.... 9/10 = must buy for me!!
Vandrius
06/11/08 @ 00:06
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PC + PS3 = Way to Go.

You get pretty much everything that is good.

GoW2 and Fable2 *will* come to PC, of that I don't doubt :P
Wildsleven
06/11/08 @ 00:33
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lol i wish the console war never existed, it is soooo deppressing -_-
chessboxer
06/11/08 @ 05:41
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The Resistance 2 beta is fun but there are too many dumb fucking noobs who can't start an 8 player co-op game. Seriously, how stupid are you to not actually start a fucking game you fucking created? Twats! Anyway, as I said, when there aren't fucktards creating co-op games which they won't start, the Resistance 2 beta is quite fun when you got a decent set of players.

Anyway, I'm back for my 2nd beta of Killzone 2. This game rocks.
Yaster
06/11/08 @ 08:37
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/cancels GoW2 preorder
muscleblade
06/11/08 @ 08:47
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Aggesan wrote: Every comment you make is no damn stupid.

No damn stupid you say. Thanks. Too bad i cant say the same about yours since they are totally moronic.
muscleblade
06/11/08 @ 08:51
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"PC + PS3 = Way to Go. "
"You get pretty much everything that is good. "

Or you can buy a 360 for a lot less and get the best from both worlds.
menschenfracht
06/11/08 @ 09:30
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Best from both worlds?

I would buy X360 if it will have Company of heroes, Dawn of War II and Diablo 3 - all with full mouse and keyboard support .)

Until then, I think, I'll stick to my inferior PC and PS3.

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eh, Muscleblade, aren't you still tired of defending Microsoft? Come on, every soldier needs his R&R. Or maybe you think you can make a clean well-lighted place out of internets by telling each moron that he is a moron (partly because his gaming console differs from yours)? Some kind of Virtuous mission or what?
farticusmaximus
06/11/08 @ 09:48
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@menschenfracht

Every time some prick posts shit like "PC + PS3 = Way to Go." then there will be a retaliatory post, so instead of replying with an equally inflammatory post, perhaps it's just best to shut the fuck up and let it slide, eh?

muscleblade
06/11/08 @ 09:51
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@menschenfracht

I dont care about MS at all. If Sony made the 360 it wouldnt make a difference. I dont say MS is the better company so im not defending them. You got it all wrong. I actually thouth the PS3 was going to be the best console this generation, but that didnt happen. Gamers that own both consoles do prefer the 360 and says a lot imo. Im just annoyed that so many gamers actually believe the PS3 is better just because its a Playstation. Theyre wrong thats all. Its still a very good Blue ray player i believe.
trebell
06/11/08 @ 10:11
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"/cancels GoW2 preorder
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why do people make this shit up? proving that you shoud not get a top third person game on one system because another system has a top first person game? lol.

"Until then, I think, I'll stick to my inferior PC and PS3. "

You'll be playing loads of 360 JRPG's and a host of other games found only on 360 there then?

how about owning all three and having real choice? stops you having to dismiss a rival console at everychance anyway.
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Widge
06/11/08 @ 10:14
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So good console + bluray player = win to me. Especially if you do have an HDTV, enjoy BR movies, wireless media and games all in the one box. I really don't get why having bluray seems to equate to being a bad thing. If the 360 had bluray in it that would be an awesome bonus in my mind. Ok, would equate to being more expensive but to be fair, if I was to buy a 360, I wouldn't be buying the bottom of the rung cheapie option.

Do the higher spec 360's have wifi built in now? Not up on my facts and not looking for some trump card factoid, its just that and the BR in the PS3 really tipped the balance for to me when I bought.
wagesoffear
06/11/08 @ 10:22
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Don't have enough of the green stuff this month to pick this and Gears up too,but its nice to know I will be shooting monsters right through the holiday season-isn't that what Christmas is all about?Dead Space keeping me busy,an exceptional game imo.
loop7
06/11/08 @ 10:25
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"Do the higher spec 360's have wifi built in now"

No, something the xbots conveniently forget when comparing the price of the consoles - wack another £70 on top for wireless on 360.
farticusmaximus
06/11/08 @ 10:29
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"wack another £70 on top for wireless on 360."

Unless of course you dont need it. I do not like paying for things I dont need.
Xerx3s
06/11/08 @ 10:38
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Fucking hell! So much crap posted in this thread! FFS EG, get some policies in place.
Widge
06/11/08 @ 10:55
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Whereas I do need it. This is why I wade into things like this when people that what I own is inferior/wrong console. I think its misinformation. Ok, I know this has all been caused by mud slinging on both sides but still.

The right console is the one that suits your needs, which doesn't necessarily mean that someone else has the wrong one.
muscleblade
06/11/08 @ 11:33
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"The right console is the one that suits your needs, which doesn't necessarily mean that someone else has the wrong one. "

I agree but if having the best quality games and online service matter the most the choice is quite clear as of now no matter what kind of games you prefer. Case closed. Next generation it might be different.
DrDamn
06/11/08 @ 11:42
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@Muscleblade
If the games you prefer are not in that set of "best quality games" then it's not clear is it? No single system has an all encompassing set of "quality games" covering everyone's preferences. So lets just leave people to their personal choice and let it lie eh?
Les
06/11/08 @ 11:49
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"The right console is the one that suits your needs, which doesn't necessarily mean that someone else has the wrong one."

+1
IneptPercy
06/11/08 @ 12:54
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Love the no wireless on 360 arguement, surely anybody with sense will wire either console anyway.

As mentioned, both consoles are great, neither has an exclusives line up which is any better or worse than the other.

Value for money is very subjective:

Out of the box playing games: 360
Out of the box playing games + bluray: PS3

Personally I still don't own a PS3 as I can play bluray already and have a decent gaming PC+360, so to me personnaly £300 to play a few exclusives just isn't worse it right now, blu-ray would help if I didn't already have a player.

There is different consoles, games and prices to suit everybody, as long as people can justify to themsleves why they own (or don't own) certain consoles then leave them to it, if you are happy with what you have it doesn't mean everybody else would be.
Stepharneo
06/11/08 @ 12:58
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Why the fuck are people playing fallout 3 on a console at all?...tsk tsk.
farticusmaximus
06/11/08 @ 13:33
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"Why the fuck are people playing fallout 3 on a console at all?...tsk tsk."

Because console owners dont like being hidden away in bedrooms like spotty PC nerds, or maybe they dont want to spend several months savings on a rig that can run the game at even close to console detail levels?
MilkYMoO
06/11/08 @ 13:45
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I'm shocked, after playing the beta I was expecting something like a 7/10. Obviously eurogamer.net are biased sony fanbitches and hate the 360(I'll have to get this game now).
Les
06/11/08 @ 13:46
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"Surely anybody with sense will wire either console anyway."

Why? If online wifi play is lag-free and stable why put in a wire? Just because it's better in principle?
Widge
06/11/08 @ 13:47
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I can't slap a wire across my front room, don't want to pull up the carpets and wireless is suiting me fine. I don't see the problem? I play on my PC and laptop using wirless, I stream media with wireless. Its all great in the wireless camp! If I bought a 360, I would have to buy wireless, in my checklist its something I have to consider.
farticusmaximus
06/11/08 @ 13:56
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@Widge

Yes, you already stated that. Could you please restate it a few more times just to make sure everyone knows how much you prefer one brand of electronics over another?

Thanks.
JoeNut
06/11/08 @ 15:32
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surprised it wasn't a 0/10 knowing Eurogamers usual bias
FrankCannon
06/11/08 @ 17:08
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I prefer the Bosch WLX24162D washing machine as it has a wash load capacity 4.5kg, Ratings A Energy A Wash B Spin, Wash controls Variable spin, 40 degree wash time 135 minutes, Dimensions H860mm W600mm D400mm, Quick wash, Time to end programme indicator.

Awesome! Pishes all over the Xbox 360 and PS3!!!!!

And before anyone accuses me of being a Bosch Bot I own all makes of washing machines, I just prefer the Bosch - it washes straight out of the box and is far superior IMHO.
man.the.king
06/11/08 @ 17:39
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@farticusmaximus regarding the following response of yours to Widge:
"Yes, you already stated that. Could you please restate it a few more times just to make sure everyone knows how much you prefer one brand of electronics over another?"

Hey man,

I don't think he was trying to drum his point into somebody's skull. I think he was just responding to the following comment by IneptPercy: "Surely anybody with sense will wire either console anyway."

Regards,
MTK
Johnsters
06/11/08 @ 17:43
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re canIdoyabombsforya - bluray dying

Where did you get that from????
If anything its been adopted faster than DVD ever did - Fact.
Steady increase in sales of hardware and movie studios releasing a lot of back catalogue.
Sub £200 players. My first DVD player was £300 in 1998.
By 2010, if you need to buy a replacement DVD player it'll be Blu-ray there for increasing market penetration.
Upscaling (I have a Denon for this) though nice, just doesn't replace missing data and still has all the crap that DVD pictures contain. Do not be fooled. Upscale DVD is no match for 1080P. Not even close.
Mass market HD (1080p) download is way off and the fact of the matter, joe public likes goods in hand. Movie download has not followed the success of music down load yet due to the front end being a PC.

Bluray is around till the next physical media arrives, which isnt needed yet.

The only thing that is poor about Bluray is the cost of the films on the high street. Online is the way to go. Except for when HMV do there 2 for £30 deals which covers most films except for the last months releases.

Comment on wired vs. wired. - My Broadband router is not in the same room as the console, so I have to use wireless. Online gaming seems ok. COD4 is variable :-)
IneptPercy
06/11/08 @ 18:55
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Interesting points on the wireless/wired thing, there is no denying that wired is the best option but wireless has got better, personally I would rather run cables than use wireless but I can see its advantages.

I was more going at the angle of you don't need a wireless adapter for the 360, but I can see how some people do need to consider it, it really should be closer to the £20-£30 mark by now.

To me the PS3 has the opposite problem, I would rather they take £100 off the price and remove the wireless and blu-ray (yes I know the blu-ray isn't that simple), I think its better to pay less then pay for extras you want than have to pay for extras you don't need.

The main reason I own a 360 and not a PS3 is because the 360 was first, and the fact the PS3 still costs more than what I bought my 360 at (a good while ago) and doesn't do anything better on the games front means I can't justify it (to myself or my other half), if I couldn't already play bluray then I could use that as an excuse.

Since then I have realised PC is the way forward anyway...
Scimarad
07/11/08 @ 07:46
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"Why the fuck are people playing fallout 3 on a console at all?...tsk tsk."

I suppose it's the convenience of putting the game in the machine and it actually working without any sodding around. But hey, I forgot; Sodding around with settings/drivers is part of the fun, right?
farticusmaximus
07/11/08 @ 09:55
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@man.the.king

There's a very strong 'last word wins' mentality on this forum, so the repetition of a fanboy standpoint until the opposition gives up is often seen as proof positive of one manufacturers superiority over another.

These monkeys should be discussing the game this thread is related to, not the stupid box of transistors it runs on and which components are or are not absolutely vital to the survival of the human race.
iago71
07/11/08 @ 11:28
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I had little interest in this tbh..... Now yet another bloody game that needs to be bought.... LBP, Fable and Fallout already bought -Gears today and now this - not to mention Mirrors Edge next week! I dont remember a time when there was quite so much quality in such a short space of time...... Bloody Hell ... The next few months are looking pretty occupied..... :)
Widge
08/11/08 @ 13:13
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yep it was in response to that comment, mainly because its from a "who needs wifi?" perspective. I'm standing up saying I need wifi because it was being disregarded as not necessary or a pointless addition.

If you don't need wifi, then its a needless addition in the PS3... all back to the whatever suits your needs principle, but don't disregard it because you personally don't want it. The same thing winds be up with people regarding bluray ability as unnecessary and therefore a useless addition.

So as I say, its not so much a "this is a factual reason why one is better than the other" angle I'm going for, more of a "don't dismiss out of hand what you put no value in to". Plus half of the insistence on plus and negatives on hardware setups is mainly some sort of defence mechanism from both sides.
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Pixelsmith
09/11/08 @ 05:39
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Stupid Web 2.0. Comments sections under games reviews make me despise a large chunk of my own demographic. Eurogamer is one of the only sites which compares favourably to the best games magazines, and it's all here for free. From the number of tantrums that flare up after a review is posted, you'd think the writers had personally broken into some readers' homes and taken a dump on their joypads.

Bear in mind when posting comments that hardly anybody gives a damn about your opinion. They're generally here to read what the professional thinks. Your voice is an impotent squawk into an uncaring void.

If you're whining about EG, about scores, about advertising intruding on editorial integrity or simply asserting that you know best and the reviewer is an idiot - when you could just as easily say "I disagree" - then all your comment is doing is making the 80 per cent of rational people who hang around here want to reach through the screen and punch you in the mouth.

If you want an average, go to Gamerankings. If you want an opinion, read a review. That's all there is to it.
DanWhitehead
09/11/08 @ 20:10
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From the number of tantrums that flare up after a review is posted, you'd think the writers had personally broken into some readers' homes and taken a dump on their joypads.

To be fair, I really should stop doing that. Terrible habit.
captainrentboy
09/11/08 @ 20:40
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''I prefer the Bosch WLX24162D washing machine as it has a wash load capacity 4.5kg, Ratings A Energy A Wash B Spin, Wash controls Variable spin, 40 degree wash time 135 minutes, Dimensions H860mm W600mm D400mm, Quick wash, Time to end programme indicator.''

135 minutes on a 40 degree wash? That's fooking dire, mine can blast through in like 55 minutes.
BoschLOL.
I don't get why PS3 owners are kicking up a stink in this comments section, one that is revolving around an exclusive title on their machine, and one that got a really good review :/
iago71
10/11/08 @ 10:18
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Id find it quite appealing if one of the reviewers came round and took a shit on one of my joypads..... Im a little disappointed that I havent been fortunate enough to be privy to this yet! ..... Dan?? :p

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