Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition Comments by Dave McCarthy

@ LeD

Well if you read his review carefully, you''ll see he clearly doesn't get along with the original control method either, because it isn't Dual Stick, as I point out in the main thread.

You have to hand it to Nintendo! When has a company EVER released consoles NEARLY 5 YEARS apart, with IDENTICAL games that look IDENTICAL!

/pictures Ninty passing out Wiimotes and patting all the good little gamers on the head, like some cheap, fake, overweight Santa in a grubby local shopping centre

/falls of chair laughing

"The pointer calibration here is so sharp you could cut yourself with it:...the result is an effortless and flawless targeting system that does exactly what you demand of it. "

Eurogamer:
"You'll point the Wiimote at things you want to shoot, but this is a wobbly, fuzzy experience, compared to the precision of the previous versions of the game."

Maybe the EG reviewer has shaky hands?

@ Overlush

Yes, cheeky bastards. And they've done it before too. See the GBA - SNES games. They should die I tell thee!

This is odd, all other reviews I've read actually compliment the control scheme and label the Wii version as the definitive version. Sorry Eurogamer, but it seems I have to ignore your review this time... I just can't ignore the amount of 9s being handed out to this game.

Always found the aiming on the original version to be impossible anyway to be honest. I'll pass.

The Wii - it's like I've bought a brand new last generation console which makes my arms hurt.

Well, if it supports the classic and GC controllers, I really don't see what the problem is. Don't like the Wiimote controls? Then don't use them!

The reviewer must be an absolute idiot if he cant instantly pick up the instinctive controls. Thats what the Wii is all about amirite?

With lots of Wii games having controls it would be very useful to try out yourself it is brilliant that Nintendo have a great game demo strategy sorted isn't it?

Eurogamer reviews used to be something to trust, but not for me anymore. Time and time again I'm seeing stupid critiscm of games, particularly of retro games on new consoles download.

To complain about the game not being HD is ridiculous, are you going to put that paragraph in every other Wii review now? how about putting it in every PS2 and DS review too? Hell why not go back and edit all older reviews knocking down their scores for lacking hi-def graphics. If high respolution was really that important why on earth have people played consoles for all these years when they could have been playing "hi-def" games on PC instead.

The original resi4 didn't have a strafe function either, and while some fps nuts might complain, when you actually think about it, I'm sure Capcom deliberatly left it out. It makes the game feel far more claustraphobic and tense, plus its more realistic, people don't really strafe in real life, but when it's in a game you end up using it all the time. Putting a strafe button in would be akin to replacing the enemies chainsaws with ginat inflateable hammers, it would make the game look daft and feel less scary.

Zombies on a kid's toy machine.

Who woulda thunk it?

No, I said that.

playgen - it's called progress. Galaxian was a graphics revelation when the standard was monochrome space invaders moving in right angles behind bits of coloured cellophane, and was very popular. Nowadays, not quite such an eye opener, huh? Ninty chose the low tech path, and have profited handsomely from it with huge sales. But it's only fair that the games are judged against their peers, which are Hi def (and lovely it is too, thanks). Jeez - it's only down to a 7 for a port of an old game, which is pretty damn good really!

@Furbs

Well, you should put it in quotes then!

:)

If this isnt proof that the Wii is just a bit of a folly then i don't know what is.

/plays more DiRT
/lovingly carees good old fashioned joypad.

"it's called progress"
"Ninty chose the low tech path, and have profited handsomely from it with huge sales. But it's only fair that the games are judged against their peers, which are Hi def "

With that thinking every DS review should say that "it doesnt have as many pixels as PSP, so its an ugly game"

I'll choose artistic style over higher resolution any day. It's sad if people can't enjoy any older games as much just because the resolution is lower.

The fact is Wii isn't Hi-Def, everyone knows this already, and if you notice by how well its selling pretty much nobody seems to care, so why go on about it in a review when nobody cares.

The lack of HD has to be ciriticized IF the console is capable of HD. Yes there are home consoles that do HD but that does not mean that every other home console should too. EG always brags about reviewing games in a specific context; Just like the XBLA reviews which certainly can't be compared to completely new games.

It's unfair to say that RE4 aged badly because it lacks HD resolution. The Wii is simply not capable of HD graphics so it's a bit silly to criticize a game for that. Then again it's good to mention that the graphics look dated compared to current HD but mentioning that is enough, it should not be held against a game.

Anyway I don't think that the graphics argument was really that much of a point in the review. The main problem seem to be the controls although noone (ie. other reviewers) seems to agree with the reviewer's opinion. But as said, with proper 480p and widescreen support and all the PS2 extras and the possibility to use the cube/classic controller also and a cheap price point I think that the game is definetly a must-buy.

Oh dear... not good... not good at all. /looks worried

I was honestly expecting the Wiimote's light-gun-a-like feature to make Resident Evil 4 even more playable than the GC version with the bonus of widescreen support. Now I'm so sure I did the right thing pre-ordering it even though it is only £25... to keep pre-order or to cancel pre-order... hmmm...

I guess this game just shows how restricted the Wii's controller can be for some games; that the games have to be designed around the controller not the other way round. I mean even Nintendo are releasing games that don't require the controller, like Super Smash Bros. Brawl, so it clear that they don't think every game needs them either. And since the Wii's sole selling point is its unique controller, you have to wonder whether the machine is going to be cursed with limited party and puzzle games and other games with little or no depth...

Oow Whizzo got name checked. Well done!

Arrrrgh, anti-Nintendo teenage troll circle jerk alert.

HOW BEING TEDIOUS WORKS

1. Capcom announce a game for the Wii. Once you've gotten over the pain, jump up and down in the EG press-release regurginews comments, screaming about how it will be rubbish because it's on the Wii. Which is rubbish.

2. When review comes out, jump up and down in review comments lolling about how an apparently very harsh 7/10 score for the game you predicted would suck proves that you are right and that Sony/Gizmondo/or similar is the future.

3. Try not to think about how Microsoft and Sony are currently getting utterly and totally slaughtered by the Wii EVEN WITHOUT ANY GAMES (your words, not mine).

Eurogamer.Yawn.

While I agree that the comment about the Wii's lack of high-definition is an odd one, perhaps the reviewer was expecting the graphics to be enhanced somewhat? After all it's not unreasonable to expect a two-year game on a system reputedly more powerful than a GameCube to look a little better even at standard definition, right? Crisper textures here and there, some extra scenery detail, perhaps a little anti-aliasing, etc., etc., but from the video I've seen compared the GC and Wii version, they're absolutely identical bar the permanent onscreen reticule. That's just sheer laziness on Capcom's part I think as all they're interested in is making easy money out of a successful platform. Shame on them! I bet the game even runs with borders on the PAL Wii as well, betcha...

Wow, how dare EG criticise a re-release of an old game for looking dated! From now on they should be compelled to lie about it and pretend that the graphics are shiny and new.

Unless you are balancing this review against other more positive reviews, aren't you simply latching onto it to re-inforce a prejudice/viewpoint you already had? I mean, Famitsu gave this 38/40. So why aren't people wondering why EG's review is so out of step with that instead of just saying "Ha, the Wii is shit - told you so".

The controls were fiddly enough without further compounding it with the wavy wand factor. Why oh why did they even bother?

If they re-did the graphics do you think it would be a £25 game?
And its still the best looking Wii game so far, so perhaps when someone else makes a better looking game it would be time to say its not upto modern standards.

Resi4 is one of the best games of all time, yes its a re-release, but that fact doesn't make the game any worse. Sure if youve played it before your not going to be as impressed, but then not everyone has played it.

Strange review.

I read nothing but priase about this version of RE4. Even from the Sony fanboys at Famistu. :/ This is the first medicore review I've read. Especially the talk about the controls, esp when most have said that RE4 have has the most precise Wii controls to date. Urmm... Perhaps this review needs a do over.

Whatever happens I'll be able to judge it for myself this Friday. :)

MR. REVIEWER I DO NOT BELIEVE YOU ;_; ;_; ;_;

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Damn...was looking forward to this...
I'll give it a miss then...

(They should have included an option to play it with the classic controller though)

EDIT: I only now started to browse the comments and noticed that the classic controller can be used...

Very informative review. Absolutely no need for this for anyone who has the cube version by the sounds of things. Or the PS2 version.

Sure, if you want to ignore all the other reviews that say it's the best version yet, with excellent controls that definitely DO work.

@playgen
"I'll choose artistic style over higher resolution any day. It's sad if people can't enjoy any older games as much just because the resolution is lower."

Artistic style is not improved by lower resolutions, it is hindered.

"The fact is Wii isn't Hi-Def, everyone knows this already, and if you notice by how well its selling pretty much nobody seems to care, so why go on about it in a review when nobody cares."

Yes it is selling very well, that doesn't mean nobody cares. It's selling well on games where Hi-def doesn't make that much difference, but this can't be applied to the multitude of genres we have in the market today.

I've got a Wii but I also have a 360 and PS3. In terms of these type of game I would buy on the 360/PS3 because the extra graphical resolution and artistic freedom the power allows means the games have greater potential.

"Strange review.

I read nothing but priase about this version of RE4. Even from the Sony fanboys at Famistu. :/ This is the first medicore review I've read."

Indeed. I'm not going to slate EG over it though, I'm bound to disagree with some of their reviews, that's normal. It's, perhaps, overly harsh in my opinion, but meh.

I know plenty of people that did not buy a GC but did buy a Wii and some haven't played RE4 at all yet, so I'm looking forward to seeing how much they enjoy it.

I'm not quite sure I understand the reviewer's complaints about the controls.

Is he complaining that you can't move and shoot (which was clearly a design decision in the original game, and works very well) or that the Wiimote aiming is inaccurate (which is directly contradicted by other reviewers and by experience with games like the shooting gallery in Wii play)

Eurogamer:
"You'll point the Wiimote at things you want to shoot, but this is a wobbly, fuzzy experience, compared to the precision of the previous versions of the game. "

I also find this stramge, because I think shooting in Wii Play's shooting game is very precise and especially quick, very close to PC games with a mouse. And it seems to be quite easy to learn, when my brother first time came to play he got used to it in an hour, and after that playing was almost insane; it was all about who had better reflects, not about who aimed more precisily.

"Sure, if you want to ignore all the other reviews that say it's the best version yet, with excellent controls that definitely DO work. "

Umm, there's only a couple of other reviews out there at the moment. Come back and make that comment when there's a dozen or so to make a fair comparison.

the wiitards must be desperate if they were pinning their hopes on this. a 3yr old game everyones already played now updated with cack controls. Bwahahaha.

it takes a while to get into the game but this vid kinda shits on the poor controls for aiming theory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKq2R-qJHi0

"I also find this stramge, because I think shooting in Wii Play's shooting game is very precise and especially quick, very close to PC games with a mouse,"

This is true. And CVG said - " The pointer calibration here is so sharp you could cut yourself with it: even compared with Nintendo's own gunwork in the Duck Hunt-styled passage of Wii Play".

So now I don't know who to believe - Eurogamer, or literally every single other opinion I've read from people who have played the game. Because they ALL say the controls are an improvement. They could all be wrong, for all I know.

But it doesn't seem very likely at the moment.

Nintendo's big idea for the next gen? Re-release the GC (games and all) with motion controls, apparently.

Well...Interesting comments...

Out on the 29th eh?
I think a quick check of gamerankings or metacritic on the 28th would be a good thing...

So there are other reviews that claim Wii RE4 is the definitive version with controls that work well then, the opposite of what EG say? Hmmm, I guess I'll have to read those and keep my eye out for others then because it wouldn't be the first time that EG have been totally at odds with other reviews...

EG hardly gave the Wii version a bad review but it's clear that the score is lower than expected because of the issue they had with the controls.

Darren you should check out that youtube link i posted a few comments ago around 1 minute in to see somebody who can use the controls properly for reference.

Interesting review. I thought the general consensus was that the controls were so accurate they were in danger of making the game too easy. I wonder if the reviewer had the sensor bar properly set up. I remember finding Zelda's aiming controls terribly frustrating until I noticed the sensor bar not quite at the front of my TV.

I'll be picking this up anyway as I've neevr had chance to play it before. So whilst I understand the complaints from those who have already played it and want new games on their system; Capcom porting it onto the Wii is personally a godsend.

I thought that eurogamer had proved they were taking their equal opportunities commitments seriously by letting one handed people review all the Wii games but then they spoil all the good work by using the word "spazzing" in the review. How disappointing.

Same old, same old, when some "lower than expected" score of our fabulous system spawns: "the reviwer is a creep". If it was on the other "evil" system: "oh the system is so da bad!"

Eurogamer is rapidly becoming the "other side of the fence" site where you can go and disagree with everyone about games that are generally considered good, and vice versa.

I mean where else will you find a favourable review of Dynasty Warriors AND an 8 for Gears of War at the same time?

Sigh, the thing re: HD criticism is that people don't buy Wii games for "uber graphix lol". And i'm not a Nintendo fan-boy, I own both a Wii and a 360. They compliment each other well, and I wish people from one side of this supposed "fence" would stop trying to insinuate that if a Wii game doesn't look as good as a 360 one then it's LOL SHIT.

Hmm, and there was me thinking Eurogamer where above writing a review for the sole purpose of increasing the comments section. Talk about a step in direction towards Kotaku and Joystiq. :/

It would be interesting to know how Dave found the aiming in Zelda, and the Duck Hunt game on Wii Play. Is this better or worse?

I remember some of the early DS reviews, Mario in particular, when one of the reviewers had complaints with the controls. I found them fine, and just assumed whoever it was (think it was Tom) doing the review just hadnt got with them.

Some people will get better on with some controls, other people with others, thats fine. But it would be nice to know what they think of other similar controls, so we can have a reference.

I for one get on fine with all the aiming on the Wii so far, so think ill be having a try at this come Friday, bassed on other reviews ive read.

I'll start a new web service: "reviews a la carte", it'll be a huge success!

Want a mega-uber-hyper score for that game that'll come out for your (da b3st, of fucking course!) system ? look no further!