Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition Comments by Dave McCarthy

Gamespot review is up :
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/gamespace/...

"This is the definitive version of a modern classic and a must-play", "Intuitive, elegant controls make playing RE4 a joy all over again".

ign gave it 9 - outstanding.

Dear gods fanboys, I know this is the internet and so reasonable discussion may be too much to ask, but to retain some self-respect you could at least bother trying to argue your cases rather than stating them in ever more offensive manners. Generalising from a single case is a rather silly thing to do, and you shouldn't really be generating a hypothesis from a set of data and then attempting to corroborate the hypothesis from the same data. You could at least try!

@cawley1: Do update this thread with how you get on with it. I've not played the original, so I'm interested in knowing whether the problem is with it being 'different', or whether it genuinely has poor controls. Or - post in the forum RE4 thread.

:o)

Well every other review says that the controller makes this game better.

So i'm more inclined to believe them

I still have no intention of buying this though

Holy SHIIIIT how did they fuck this one up and turn a genuine solid gold AAA into a 7?

@mcmothercruncher:

If you look at gamespot, ign, etc etc etc.. they didnt.

According to everyone else they improved it. It's just this one reviewer didnt think so.

Actually, RE4 Wii Edition has received great reviews from reviewers who CAN handle the Wiimote and nunchuk and who aren't grossly overweight (like David).

check this out:

***** FAMITSU ****************************
Score: 38 out of 40 points possible
(4 Editors reviewed the game and scored it | 10 | 9 | 9 | 10 |)

Pros:
-Two editors out of 4 gave it top marks citing that the new controls are simple and easy to get into.

Source: http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/790/79023...


*****Computer & Video Games (UK)***********
Score: 9.3

Pros:
-Improved control system
-Visual enhancements 16:9 and progressive scan
-The definitive version of Capcom's finest Resi to date.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/art...


*****GameSpy*****************************
Score: 5 out of 5 (A perfect score!)

Pros:
-The definitive version is here;
-The Wii version is the best is because the new control system makes the gameplay more enjoyable;
-everything from PS2 edition;
-Still a great looking game;
-The soundtrack and voiceover work remains really good too;
-The superb level of tension and creeping dread still remains firmly intact;
-Its lower-than-average price tag only sweetens the deal.

http://wii.gamespy.com/wii/biohazard-umb...


****IGN.com*******************************
Score: 9.0 out of 10

Pros:
-The best from the GCN and PS2 versions with added Wii controls;
-Beautiful art, whether it's character or level design;
-Sound is still atmospheric;
-Actually better with the Wii remote;
-Lots of variety in missions and challenges;
-A robust 15-plus hour single-player affair with all the content extras of the PS2 iteration;

http://wii.ign.com/articles/797/797837p1...


****Game Informer *************************
Score: 95 out of 100
(second opinion from another editor also manages a 95 score!)

Pros:
-Resident Evil 4 is still the benchmark in the survival horror genre;
-Wii motion sensing controls work effectively for the most part;
-As creepy and haunting as ever

http://gameinformer.com/Games/Review/200...


****GameSpot*****************************
Score: 91 out of 100

Pros:
-Intuitive, elegant controls make playing RE4 a joy all over again;
-Nail-biting action features creepy enemies and gargantuan bosses;
-Top-notch production values create an atmosphere of tension and dread;
-Long, suspenseful story and excellent replay value make this a steal for 30 bucks

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/resid...


****1up**********************************
Score: 80 out of 100

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=316...


****Official Nintendo Magazine UK ************
Score: 94 out of 100


In short, the MAJORITY of reviewers LOVED the Wiimote controls or had very little issues with it.

Eurogamer, you gained traffic but lost lots of respect. Not by the score of 7 you gave RE4 Wii Edition (let's not forget a 7 is still a GOOD score), but by publishing that manure that was simply designed as bait for fanboys and a marketing device to get more people here. Nothing in the review made much sense. It read like the typical fanboy babble coming out of gamesarefun.com or Kotaku.com.

What a shame.... you had such class!

does anybaldy else just not read posts which are more then three lines long?

cobracotton managed to write this with help of a trained chimpanzee: "does anybaldy else just not read posts which are more then three lines long?"


^^^^ lazy toothless-gibbon.

I guess he didn't even read that review on which this thread is based on. Cannot read beyond three lines, he said.

Must be an illegal alien.

Raaaa, I should have this either saturday or monday. Then we shall see!

Its funny how the "Best looking game on the Wii" is a 2 year old Cube Port.

The Wii *is* a Gamecube - that's why you can only get Gamecube ports for it.

@ dedalo

yes I am an illegal alien what of it?

"I guess he didn't even read that review on which this thread is based on."

bahahahahaha wtf bra? thats as far as I got with your dribble as it hit 3 lines and *Yawn* anyways whatever I'm going to play with my chimp

First up not played the Wii version, but am going to trust the majority of the reviewers that were happy with the controls. I had Resi 4 on the cube, and it was one of the finest single player experiences I've ever had. Just booted the original back up to check and it still looks fine. I can honestly say I enjoyed it more than I have playing Gears on the 360 and will probably pick up the new version just to play it through again and get the extras. If you own a Wii you've obviously accepted that you're not going to get one of the best graphical experiences around, but I can say this is an cracking game. If you're on the fence, trust me Resi 4 was and no doubt still is amazing. Stop dripping about it being old and pick up something that's still top drawer.

I take it most of those harping about visual fidelity have Van Eykes hung in every picture frame in the house without a Matisse in sight.

I'm currently playing Resi 1(!) - the cube remake - on Wii, which is well worth a revisit and still looks proper gorge. Also, don't forget to use the knife loads on resi 4 to save on ammo, kids - be that cube or Wii versh...

^ okay, wiseguy, wait till you're 36 and the arthritis starts creeping along your firing knuckles and cataracts steam up 50% of your field of vision. Then you'll be calling upon ol' cut-throat to finish off those friendly groaning villagers. [stumbles backwards and slashes wildly in the dark, just in case someone was nearing before he finished the sentence]

That's so weird, on the Wii page it says that this article is up to 253 comments (254 if you include mine), but I can only see 251 (excluding mine, + my comment would make it 252.) I'm not ignoring anyone, is someone ignoring me? :'(

So if you use the GameCube controller on this version, would the controls (by which I mean, button and stick assignment) be identical to how they were on the actual GameCube version?

@azmol01

That's because everytime someone edits their comment, the system's 'comment counter' goes up by 1. Why? Don't know.

TBH it seems to me that Eurogamer chose a reviewer for this game who just doesnt like the Wii or the Wii control method.

Totally unfair!!

Using the knife or charging the gun cannot be confused. Charging the gun is with the B button pressed.

Aiming is so easy !! I never came under 90% in the statistics (I suck with FPS!!)

Do people really care if a game looks a bit dated? I'm primarily a PC Gamer. I haven't upgraded my PC in three years. Every game I buy looks dated.

Company of Heroes looks like a different game when compared with the screen shots you can find of high spec systems but I still love it.

picked up a wii machine yesterday, and had the choice of either this game or the new harry potter. quite the selection carried in my shitty hometown! anyway, i love the machine itself and the controlls in RE4. i've tried the game on PC before and could never master the controls. i tried both keyboard/mouse and the 360 gamepad but didn't find any of them any good (not going to get into the graphics at all...). the wii controlls however are perfect, i have no problems aiming whatsoever. when i picked the game up i still had this review in the back of my head, but based on other reviews i got it anyway. can't say i'm sorry, having a great time!

£25 though? i had to pay closer to £45. that's what i get for being norwegian i guess.

Cheers aria ^_^

I got this yesterday, though I've done the GC/PS2 versions about a million times, I'm still loving it! This is the definitive version and the best game I've ever played! I really don't get how the reviewer struggled with this, it took me all of 30 seconds to get to grips with the new controls and it's so much better for it having Wii waggle.

Also does anybody know how to get rid of the borders? I heard that you could do so with this version.

The reviewer fails to mention you might find reloading a bit fiddly at first.

However the biggest challenge I faced was learning what each button now did (compared to the PS2 and game cube version), so far I've found it excellent - a far cry from games such as Red Steel which featured crippled control methods.

This would surely be the definitive version if it allowed you to choose to use the classic controller or wii remote, but it's still excellent - worthy of much more than the 7 rating it got.

9/10

prefab, dude you can use either the classic controller, gamecube pad or quite obviously the Wii remote/Nunchuck combo, what version have you been playing? ^_^

Bought this yesterday, still just as good as two years ago, amazing game. And the controls are fine, this review is terrible.

3/10 for the review

9/10 for the game, one of the best games of the last five years, maybe even the best.

poorly written review but the game works really well with the wii remote. Its very easy to aim and shoot. Found reloading easy by holding B and shake the wii-remote

9/10

Reviewer must be joking?

How can it possibly be more difficult to aim when you're pointing at what you want to shoot?!
It makes absoloutely no sense that anybody could find this more difficult.

Getting confused between knife and reload?
Only if you get confused between whether or not your finger is pressing the B button.

I'll agree that knife control using the C button is odd at first, but it's no big deal, I'm sure most people were used to that after a matter of minutes.

I find the Wii version a hell of a lot more fun than the PS2 version because of the control system, it's more than just the same old use thumbsticks to aim.

This has to be the worst Eurogamer review that I've read in years... The controls are absolutely flawless, and complaining about a lack of strafing????
This game is an improvment on the seemingly perfect GC version
And to say it looks dated?
Graphically it's the nicest looking Wii game yet, and gameplay wise it's truely timeless.
Faith in EG -1
(I'll definitely be ignoring any future reviews by Dave)

It's a Wii game... were you expecting the graphics to be up there with Gears of War?

I promised myself I'd reserve judgement until I'd actually played it, so now I can say for sure this review is nonsense. The fact that it was so out of line with every other review going confused me, and having played the game, it still does frankly.. This is the bid-ness, no need to justify or explain, they're all right, this guy is wrong.
As a litmus test for reviewers I can count on this is great though, Dave is clearly either on the take or just didnt have time to actually play the damn thing.

hmm everywhere else has seemed to given this game a much better review.

I have no problems aiming and can even pick off those cheeky spaniards from a distance. Me suspects that the reviewer is crap at the game.

Ignore this review (along with the wii haters that come one here to put it down cuz they are jealous that it's outselling everything at the moment)

Go buy and have fun!

Got this yesterday (in spite of this review) and it's genius. Improved in every way over the GC original. The controls are super smooth and a child could get the hang of them. Ignore every word of this inaccurate and biased review. I can only assume the reviewer was pissed or a total spaz.

The truth is, not everyone loves the controls. It's a subjective issue, and the reviewer makes it absolutely clear that he's outlining his personal opinion, not some uncontestable objective fact.

There's been a hell of a lot of straw man arguments in this thread (hey, it's the internet), which is just stupid, as there's plenty about this review to criticise without inventing stuff.

I, personally, feel that the Wii control is MILES more controllable than the original. I'm not confusing that opinion with objective truth, though.

Meanwhile, Edge have just described RE4 as THE SECOND BEST GAME OF ALL TIME, so it's fair to say that this game is getting it's critical dues elsewhere, and then a whole heap more that it simply doesn't deserve.

There's a balance to be had, somewhere.

I shall jump on the bandwagon too. I read this review and thought that Resi 4 may be a bit of a beast to control. To my delight, it's absolutely fantastic to control, and I had no problems at all. It completely puts Red Stell to shame (and that was a weird game to control). No way is this game only a 7/10 - a definite 9 at least.

This review is just completely, objectively wrong. The new controls are absolutely fantastic. If anything, they make the game too easy.

It's official - EG has to be one of the most inconsistent review sources on the net at the moment. 70% of the reviews are well-written and informative. The other 30% appear to be written by a retarded monkey, proof-read and fact-checked by no-one, and then vomited up onto the site. Sort it out, guys.

I definitely agree with the above... At my last count, I had 7 full health refills in my inventory. I reckon a professional mode playthrough is in order once I clear normal difficulty this evening :)

Time for another Devil's advocate. I got this yesterday, on the strength of most of the other reviews. So far, after a goodly number of utterly failed attempts to get through the first level thanks to the awkward disconnect between aiming and turning - and I should mention that I have played the 'Cube version almost to completion - I'm forced to side with the EG review.

/runs away very fast

It seems EDGE just gave a 9 to RE4 wii in their august issue. Seems like they loved it as much as I do.

AFAIC, RE4 is to controls what Gears of wars is to graphics: a new benchmark.

RE4 on wii demonstrates better than any other game how the wiimote can refine the gaming experience. It's flawless, much more precise than a traditional pad and much more immersive than a mouse/keyboard. The game is old, but it doesn't feel so: the pleasure is still there, if not more than the 1st time. One of the best game ever just got even better.

Hats off Capcom: some will only see there a port to make quick cash, but most people will now understand why the wiimote can benefit games like no other input device on the market.

holy crap, I just got over 130,000 points with Wesker in the castle level of the mercenaries minigame. I was in the zone, headshotting monks left, right and centre. I could never have dreamed of doing that with the GC pad.

The wiimote beats even KB&M for precision (when properly implemented, as it is here), and as the poster above me notes, is considerably more immersive to boot. For shame, eurogamer, for shame.

Anyway, bed.

Anyone still in doubt, just skim through the mulch of opinions for/against the control scheme in the comments. I think 9 out of 10 (badoomtish) are in favour.

For me, controls are ace - review poo.

Well, at least this review is representative of 10% of something.
I'm sure you could find 10% of people who find Gears of War graphics ugly. They'd be biased of course, but it seems nothing can get unanimity.

I got this game yesterday - haven't owned any other incarnation of it until now. For me, the controls are spot on. Learning period was maybe 20 minutes, it's smooth going after that. It's this game that finally convinced me that the Wiimote is actually an evolutionary step forward for console gaming, *if used right*.

I just wonder why readying the gun is mapped to the B button and firing it to the A button. I'd have chosen it the other way round - firing with the front trigger would have made more sense. But that's just a minor niggle.

I should perhaps add that I'm usually not a fan of console FPS's. I really dislike moving and aiming with two analogue sticks. So maybe someone more conditioned to the gamepad controls will have a harder time with the Wiimote. Maybe that's the case with the reviewer.

I have to agree with the majority of the comments here, the controls were initially incredibly awkward but after the first hour of the game I was totally at home with them and feeling much more in control of the action than I ever was with the gamecube controller. Shooting feels so natural that every shootout is a real pleasure.

Still, I can't fault the reviewer if he genuinely played through the game and found the controls to be debilitating, all he can do is tell us what he experienced. I wonder if this raises problems for the future of reviewing wii games though, could it be that for every great wii game in the future there'll be a minority of players that just won't be able to grasp the controls?

I'm just glad I'm not one of those people. A week ago I was just about ready to sell my Wii, but RE4 has convinced me that it might just be worth sticking with.

"Well, at least this review is representative of 10% of something. I'm sure you could find 10% of people who find Gears of War graphics ugly."

You could only really do that if the number of people who find the GoW graphics ugly were divisible by 10.

First: If you have a problem with the split between rough aiming and fine aiming between the stick and the wiimote, I have a tip for your. See, if you hold the wiimote still, pointing at the center of the screen, it's actually exactly like playing with a traditional pad.

Second: I get the feeling the reviewer hasn't played this more than half an hour. That is, at least to me, how long it took to acclimate to the new control setup.

Also, complaining that there is no strafe I think demonstrates that this writer has absolutely no grasp of why the Resi 4 design works. That you're immobile while shooting is so fundamental to the design that it's baffling that a professional reviewer doesn't recognise it's importance. Yeah, you don't feel totally in control at all times. Because that's the point. You have to prioritize.

Went from being dead set on buying this before I read this review to very unsure about it all (as I trust EG a lot), but having read so many subsequent positive reviews, and seeing it somewhere for £23 delivered, I got it.

So glad I did. Having never played a Resident Evil game before, I was mostly hitting headshots every time (I've only done the first level, but had 91% accuracy; if I did it again I'd get much more). It's great. Using the Wiimote is easy and intuitive, the only thing I have a slight problem with is remembering how to do a 180 degree turn in the heat of battle, but no doubt I will get used to this.

Having played Zelda (and indeed *any* FPS on the PC) I didn't find moving with one hand and aiming with the other to be a problem. Also I've had *no* problem with the wii working out whether I want to reload or use the knife: if I'm holding B and flick it up it reloads; if I'm not holding B and flick it sideways I knife. I think. I haven't had to actually think about it, it just works, so I can't remember exactly what I do.

This review has a very negative spin on it, and I'm glad I ignored it.

Just finished the game last night - awesome. Seriously, still don't know what the review was talking about. Ended up doing things like a double-tap with a pistol, but on two different people's heads, the aiming's that quick and accurate. This control system is completely recommended for all your zombie-destroying needs.