Red Dead Redemption

Best western?

It's a classic Rockstar moment. The nocturnal calm is shattered by the shrieks of a prostitute bursting out of a saloon as a man chases her down and assaults her in the street. I move swiftly to her aid but, still acquainting myself with the controls, succeed only in kicking her in the face as she writhes helplessly on the ground.

The man flees back inside as the girl scrambles to her feet and away. I give chase to the attacker, drawing a rifle as he cowers behind the bar blind-firing. A moment later I have him clean in my sights by the open backdoor and unload a round. Which sails past his torso, through the door, over the street and into the stomach of a girl 20 yards away, who drops to her knees with a blood-curdling scream. The same girl I'd been trying to save. There are belly laughs and there are belly laughs.

It's one of those sudden, unexpected climaxes of bloody action, tinged with darkly comic absurdity, that have become a trademark of Rockstar's openworld exploits. Pigeonholing Red Dead Redemption as 'GTA Wild West' is a seductively neat but ultimately lazy option, handy for journalists seeking to articulate the concept with a tabloid flourish, but one that undermines what is - if not in essential mechanics and structure - in tone, ambition, scope and potential very much its own beast.

The heritage and influence of Grand Theft Auto are important because through its all-conquering series Rockstar has created then refined a genre, while becoming a master at realising the dramatic potential of the medium.

Red Dead Redemption is, the publisher often states, the fulfilment of a dream that began with picking up the half-finished Revolver from Capcom, acquiring the developer, Angel Studios, and renaming it Rockstar San Diego - to create the great videogame western.

'Red Dead Redemption' Screenshot 1

Hands-off demos have impressed the leather chaps off us so far, but earlier this week Rockstar invited us over to its London HQ to climb into the saddle ourselves.

First, though, a Rockstar rep gives us an updated snapshot of the project and a taste of what's in store. We start on a map screen, slowly zooming out for effect to reveal the full scale of the gameworld. The huge expanse of land is bisected by a river, with the Americas to the north and Mexico to the south, split into three distinct territories: New Austin, West Elizabeth and Nuevo Paraiso.

Redemption is the largest openworld game Rockstar has made. Size in itself is not an unalloyed good, as those overwhelmed by the vast San Andreas would testify; but an unexplored, unknown wilderness is the point here. Set at the turn of the 20th century, the tension between the lawless old west and the rapid expansion of government and the rule of law is central both on the narrative and the character of protagonist John Marston, torn between his own outlaw past and second-chance family life.

The proto-FBI Justice Department demands Marston help them bring to justice his former gang. His family threatened with execution, he's left with little option but to comply, loyal only to himself as he works with whomever and whatever it takes to protect his wife and child.

We're walked initially through a mission in Nuevo Paradiso, where Marston has sided with the Mexican Army to attack and expel rebels from their stronghold. It's a frenetic firefight that snakes up a rock formation and towards the enemy base on a cliff edge. Rocks and the ruins of razed masonry provide cover as Marston and the army press forward against dozens of rebels.

Cover-and-fire is straight out of the GTA playbook, enhanced by Dead Eye - the system used in Red Dead Revolver - which slows down time allowing Marston to pick out multiple targets and unleash a flurry of fire. But with around 10 rebels moving in for the kill, the rep hurls a few molotovs which flame panic and pain all around.

On approach to the stronghold, Marston turns sniper to nail the last few defenders before the army storms the building and eliminates the remaining rebels, springing a cut-scene. The rep lays down the controller to talk through more features, which allows the game to run through a day-and-night cycle as Marston broods by a cliff edge.

The rich, deep reds of the rocks and mustard-yellow plains are bathed in dimming light as the sun sets behind the mountains on the horizon. The sky darkens to reveal a starry blanket above as background music fades to reveal the incessant chirp of crickets. Oh, and the wild whinnying of a horse which inexplicably falls backwards off the cliff. A bug, I presume, rather than black humour in this instance.

It may not be as awe-inspiringly gorgeous as the vistas of Uncharted 2, but there's a crucial difference. Everything you see - and the view stretches for miles around - you can visit. That, in essence, is the wide-eyed promise of Red Dead Redemption: the great, unconquered frontier that lies before you.

'Red Dead Redemption' Screenshot 2

A word on the music. Inspired by the great big screen westerns, the Redemption score's blend of portentous pedal notes, snarling muted trumpets, seedy basslines and wistful harmonica riffs feels entirely appropriate and dynamically adapts to the action. Brilliantly judged licensed soundtracks are a staple of the GTA series; here the soundtrack is entirely original (and Rockstar coyly teases that an announcement about the composer will come).

Hands-on time! In the small town of Armadillo, Marston persuades the Sheriff to help him track down a former associate. As one of the early encounters in the game this is in essence a training mission guiding you through combat controls. First, a horseback ride to the troublemaker's hideout.

You can ride any horse in the game with a press of the Y button (we're playing on Xbox 360); A is used to trot or gallop. Mission transits perform a similar function to car journeys in Grand Theft Auto, allowing the story to develop through dialogue (which, again like GTA, has multiple variations if you repeat a mission). In these situations, holding the A button puts the horse in, curiously, 'cruise control', matching your pace with the other rider so you only need worry about steering.

The mission itself is straightforward assault on the target's defended base. Dispatched enemies may drop items like ammo on the ground, which shimmer brightly until collected; but corpses can also be looted for bonus treats. On the final approach, the target emerges from the door of his shack and the player has a choice: kill him outright, or disable him for capture.

This plays into the game's Honour and Fame system. Marston can gain or lose Honour depending on his actions. Capturing the target here boosts Honour, which ultimately affects the way the world reacts to you, from shopkeepers to the law. There are many ways to gain Honour, like aiding distressed travellers and helping the law; and just as many ways to lose it, like, as I discover, shooting hookers in the belly, however inadvertent. In short, murdering and stealing might get you rich quicker but it has consequences.

Fame is increased with every significant action Marston performs. Again, this impacts how you are perceived and treated, with townsfolk referring to you by name as your renown increases but, just as likely, cocksure meatheads challenging you to a duel. You might even blag a discount at the local store. Unless you'd rather shoot the shopkeeper in the face and steal everything.

With the mission complete I take the opportunity to wander off-piste and out towards a rocky rise. Much has already been written about the game's ecology system. There is a circle of life in Redemption, but not one of which Disney would necessarily approve. From rabbits to buffalo and bears, larger animals pray on smaller ones - and on you.

I shoot a rabbit from horseback and watch its bloody body slide down a rock face. It's worth dismounting to collect as animal skins carry a value and can be sold-on in towns. Skinning a dead critter is a single button press. You don't see the process; instead the camera shows Marston crouching down and getting busy with his blade, with the squelch of flesh and blood splatters on the screen indicating a job well done.

As a rule, as long as it ain't human, you can skin it. A cougar appears and I'm forced to resort to Dead Eye to take it down. One skinning later and all that's left is a rather unsettling feline corpse. But the cougar wasn't working alone, and before I'm able to do anything, another has savaged my horse to death. I shoot the cougar and slice off its settee cover. And then do the same to my horse. It's what she would've wanted. By the end of my playtime, I've resorted to Dead Eye shooting a horse limb-by-limb before tearing off its skin like I'm stripping a bed. I feel dirty and ashamed.

'Red Dead Redemption' Screenshot 3

If you lose your horse (by fair means or foul), the game apparently detects when you've been on foot for a couple of minutes and creates a scenario whereby you can seize a replacement. That could simply be someone riding by, or a stage coach, or the appearance of a campsite with a horse tethered and waiting to be nicked.

Campsites play an important role. Others' offer an opportunity to sit, shoot the breeze and enjoy a narrative set-piece. But there's every chance of a knife being pulled on you, particular after dark, so it's advisable not to get too comfortable. Marston can also pitch his own camp, which becomes important as you explore the map, serving as an item refill and save point.

A second playable mission gives a taste of Gang Hideouts - side missions that provide a useful haul of items and treasure. In this case, Marston is trying to help a farmer whose daughter has been captured and is being held in a hideout. It's another engaging cover-and-shoot sequence; and once enemies outside have been cleared, a final, frenzied dash ensues to rescue the daughter before she's done over.

I pop a bullet in her captor to scoop maximum Honour and the eternal gratitude of her father. But, I'm told, if I'd arrived too late and she'd been killed I would still have received some Honour since I'd tried my best to help. If I'd just stamped on her head instead it would've worked the other way, no doubt.

The final playable mission is from later in the game. Marston calls on a shambling drunk named Irish, who knows the location of a Gatling gun he needs for a major hit. The only problem is it's stored deep within a heavily guarded mine. A tense shootout in tight, underground tunnels plays out, before the gun is retrieved and transported out in an entertaining mine cart sequence. At one point, I spot an enemy up ahead laying explosives on the track in my path; a panicked Dead Eye shot misses the explosives completely but kills the guy, while another shot successfully ignites the obstacle at exactly the moment the body lands on it, causing it to shoot backwards spectacularly as Marston and the cart zoom safely through the smoke. Yee-haw!

Of course, this being a Rockstar openworld game, even on a couple of hours' playthrough there's an enormous amount to see, do and speculate upon. A game of poker in the back of the saloon in Armadillo, ends in a ferocious firefight as I get bored, shoot everyone, steal their money and leg it.

Committing a crime in a town will result in you being grassed up to the sheriff, at which point your Wanted rating shoots up. This works like the stars system in GTA. To get the law off your arse, you need to get the hell out of the trouble spot and move beyond the area highlighted on the mini-map. That will lower your Wanted level allowing you to return safely, but won't remove your Wanted status - leaving you vulnerable to bounty hunters. To get rid of that, you can either pay off a fine or acquire a pardon letter.

There's so much more to say. I could talk about the vulture-shooting mini-game; the deliciously cruel potential of the lasso; the bad, bad thing I did in a church; collapsing unconscious in a bar after caning two shots of hard liquor (eerily similar to my own tolerance). And then there's multiplayer, which, according to Rockstar, will be part of the next reveal. I could go on, but like Grand Theft Auto, the joy is in the discovery and individual experiences.

'Red Dead Redemption' Screenshot 4

Technically there are still rough edges that need smoothing out. The frame-rate plummets dramatically during particularly intense action sequences, and there are still noticeable bugs. But the rep says the game is basically content-complete, so the San Diego team is now locked-down in polish-and-fix mode.

Before this week, teased by assured demos and typically slick trailers, Red Dead Redemption was perhaps the gameworld I was most looking forward to immersing myself in this year. What little I've now directly experienced hasn't done anything to change that.

It's dangerous to draw broad conclusions for a game of this scale from such tiny samples, and there are many disparate elements here that need to work together to make a compelling, satisfying whole. But the potential at least is clear.

Rockstar has always had the best toys in the sandbox. The promise of an entirely new sandbox to try them out in remains an intoxicating prospect.

Red Dead Redemption is due out for PS3 and Xbox 360 on 30th April.

Comments (71) Latest comment 2 years ago

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  • UberFrog #1 2 years ago

    Not on PC? Too bad...
  • whatthefu #2 2 years ago

  • darc #3 2 years ago

    Can't wait for this one.
  • Nanocrystal #4 2 years ago

    Oh wow, looking great.
  • cianchristopher #5 2 years ago

    First off: This game looks and sounds amazing!!!

    But, I fear that it will not make its April release date, and will be pushed back until "The Fall", especially given the rumours surrounding Rockstar San Diego and the atmosphere in which this game was developed.

    Also, I wonder if the current consoles can really handle this! Those screenshots are pure "bullshots", as there is no way in hell the game looks that good! Will the gunplay be marred by a choppy framerate and shitty cover mechanics? Will it have terrrible aliasing? Will it run at a sub-HD resolution?

    Finally, I fear that this could be another example of a game that enjoys significant performance advantage on the Xbox 360 over the PS3, and there is no word of a PC version coming out at all...
    Edited by 1 at 28/01/10 @ 18:36
  • Nanocrystal #6 2 years ago

    I don't care if it's delayed as long as they fix the bugs and framerate. This is a potential GOTY for sure.

    EDIT: Actually they should keep the suicidal horses for the sake of lolz.
    Edited by 1 at 28/01/10 @ 18:43
  • metalangel #7 2 years ago

    Really looking forward to this.

    Rockstar, if you're reading this, PLEASE, put in an early automobile as an easter egg/surprise. An Oldsmobile Curved Dash or similar, to putt-putt-putt around in for giggles.
  • ShinMegami08 #8 2 years ago

    Day one purchase!!
  • UKLL #9 2 years ago


    I was sold the minute I read the word prostitutes.

    I kid I kid, can't wait for this, looks epic.
  • cherryuk #10 2 years ago

    I've been meaning to complete RD on the PS2 for a long time. I must go back to it.
  • zuljin #11 2 years ago

    Random question - This isn't actually made in Rockstar London right? Just available for you guys to play here?

    EDIT: -2 for asking a question? Hmm. Tough crowd.
    Edited by 1 at 28/01/10 @ 20:22
  • UncleLou #12 2 years ago

    Said it before, it really sounds like the best game ever.

    Now please make a PC version so I can actually play it (and play it without the terrible auto-aim of GTAIV with a pad). :p
  • Lexx87 #13 2 years ago

    The part where it detects if you've been on foot too long and gives you a horse is awesome :D
  • makeamazing #14 2 years ago

    Really cant wait for this game, but i also have to admit i will be surprised by a April 30 release date, though its a massive team, thats not too long till it will go gold, and frame rate issues and rough edges are not going to get removed in that timeframe....

    Sounds like a great game, :)
  • nixc9 #15 2 years ago

    Will buy on day one. But, please, please, please: mid-mission checkpoints.....
  • creepylizard #16 2 years ago

    This looks like its going to be a bit tasty. Never cared for Grand theft much but I think my overriding love of westerns will sell it for me...
    Toothless whores, whiskey and rickets...all my favourite things in the world..
  • grimmace #17 2 years ago

    those aren't 'bullshots'.
    Edited by 1 at 28/01/10 @ 19:17
  • greenthumb #18 2 years ago

    this sounds great, just a bit concerned that three missions where shown and every one was go here and shoot these people.... surely the missions are more varied than that?
  • Santino #19 2 years ago

    i cannot wait for this game will buy day 1 if it lives up to hype. im sure it will come to pc eventually wchich means i'll probably double dip so i can play it at its highest quality.
    Edited by 1 at 28/01/10 @ 19:23
  • nixc9 #20 2 years ago

    not to mention Sergio Leone
  • creepylizard #21 2 years ago

    Just watched The good, the bad and the ugly again. I totally forgot what an amazingly good film it is. Not just a good western. An amazing film..
  • gav_and_the_gavster #22 2 years ago

    Wow, got my eye on this! Apologies if I missed it in the article but the one thing I'm looking for in an open world game (especially from Rockstar) is tight controls. Other games in the genre are getting this right nowadays and I always feel like the characters, camera and vehicles in GTA aren't quite as fast or responsive as my fingers are working.
  • trip919 #23 2 years ago

    This can’t arrive quick enough.
  • Scimarad #24 2 years ago

    Not a fan of westerns but I'm pretty sold on this!
  • raion #25 2 years ago

    fix the framerate. fix the framerate! lower the polycount and the texture size if needed but fix the frameraaaaaaate!!
    why is it that by today standards screen tearing and framerate drops are accepted as long as the graphics have "oooh, shiny!" levels?

    by the way, I would not worry about the pc version. it's gonna come out. eventually.
  • Kapo! #26 2 years ago

    I'm chomping at the bit for this. I absolutely loved GUN, and this looks to be even better.
  • BOBBYLUPO #27 2 years ago

    Sounds amazing.

    BTW I think Nick Cave's doing the music, which based on the score he did for 'The Assassination of Jesse James...' is an inspired choice.
  • MrsPacMan #28 2 years ago

    I don't remember R* announcing a definate release date, like they have with this and then missing it.

    They said fall for GTA4 then moved it, but they've said 27th (I think) April. It will happen.

    And who cares if the PS3 version is inferior. Not me.
  • mkreku #29 2 years ago

    "I shoot the cougar and slice off its settee cover. And then do the same to my horse. It's what she would've wanted."

    OK, that made me laugh out loud like a geek. I don't like that.

    Oh, and please do as you usually do with the GTA-series, Rockstar! Release it on the PC too, albeit six months later. I don't mind the delay as long as I get to play it!
  • haruvister #30 2 years ago

    Secretly, this is the game of 2010 I'm most looking forward to...
  • Zidargh #31 2 years ago

    More than a fistful of dollars for Rockstar I hope....

    'Buda-boom-tsch'. :D
  • Slabbathepave #32 2 years ago

  • CrispyLog #33 2 years ago

    I bet they'll do some DLC for it to get a few dollars more.
  • Veldaban #34 2 years ago

    BTW I think Nick Cave's doing the music, which based on the score he did for 'The Assassination of Jesse James...' is an inspired choice.

    Not to mention the score (and screenplay) he did for The Proposition. If they're using his music I hope they're also using some of the tone and style of that movie.
  • the_mtfr #35 2 years ago

    PC relase, and without draconic DRM.

    Please (especially the no DRM part).
  • Gazza_UK #36 2 years ago

    Am i the only one that still hasnt blocked cianchristopher yet? What a waste of text.

    Cant wait for this! I liked the first one and really enjoyed Gun too, still cant watch John Wayne films though...
  • Lunatic4ever #37 2 years ago

    Feels like this game is going to be pure awesomeness
  • Rowlsten #38 2 years ago

    Nick Cave and Warren Ellis would be perfect.... unless of course Morricone isn't up to much.
  • bad09 #39 2 years ago

    OMG! I was reading through that thinking wow this sounds great, then I read the first comment and it sinks in. No PC, gutted.

    It will be coming though I reckon as Rockstar always support PC, they'll just announce later. Won't they?

    / prays
    Edited by 1 at 29/01/10 @ 07:50
  • Vroom #40 2 years ago

    Wasn't interested. Now I am.
  • BabyJesus #41 2 years ago

    This year has the potential to be the best year of gaming for a long time.
  • Shinetop #42 2 years ago

    here the soundtrack is entirely original (and Rockstar coyly teases that an announcement about the composer will come).

    This has to be Morricone. Anybody other than Morricone would not be worth teasing.

  • p00ntang #43 2 years ago

    Red Ring of Death Redemption anyone?
  • aaronali #44 2 years ago

    If it is Ennio Morricone doing the score, I won't leave the house for a month.
  • Amule #45 2 years ago

    I think I just did a little sex wee
  • p00ntang #46 2 years ago

    Neil Young's Dead Man soundtrack was pretty awesome too
  • videogangs #47 2 years ago

    Easily the game I'm most looking forward to this year...
  • Blackthorned #48 2 years ago

    I really had no idea this game was coming out - it sounds fantastic! The western game I've been waiting for it seems.
  • kangarootoo #49 2 years ago

    The "You seem to have misplaced your horse, silly boy" mechanic does indeed sound welcome. Well done R*.


    A bit more about the controls would have been nice. How does shooting handle if you aren't using the dead eye mechanic? The preview seemed to suggest that JM resorted to it under pressue, which doesn't sound promising on the face of it.

    GTA combat mechanics have always ranged between bloody awful and just about adequate, so any comparison with the cover system of GTA 4 does not fill me with joy one little bit. I started playing Libery City chapters (or whatever it is called) recently, and I'd forgotten how damn annoying it is repeating a mission becasue the crappy controls scuppered what should have been quite basic actions.
  • actionfitz #50 2 years ago

    "Marston calls on a shambling drunk named Irish".

    oh lovely... :/

    "the rep says the game is basically content complete, so the San Diego team is now locked-down in polish-and-fix mode"

    Doesn't he mean the team is now locked in the basement without food and water till they learn their lesson about complaining on the internet?

    Dunno, buying this would almost be like deliberately buying those sneakers / footballs you just know have been put together by child workers in a 3rd world country heh.
    (yes I am being deliberately over dramatic - for very mild comedy effect i assure you).

    meh. hope its good, for the sake of the guys at R* San Diego. At very least so they can have shit-hot portfolios to job hunt for a company that wont treat them like cunts.
  • Kanjin #51 2 years ago

    'it's what she would have wanted' :D
  • deanimate #52 2 years ago

    PC release pu-lease.
  • SBfistfun #53 2 years ago

    OOOh hoping this is going to be good.

    Nick Cave doing the soundtrack would be awesomepants!
  • lp24h #54 2 years ago

    i dont understand some people. sod the pc and embrace the consoles. consoles are always progressing and getting every inch of graphics and what not out of their systems into the games and is done by the developers. with the pc YOU have to upgrade it and usually after 6 months what you have is old. the new breed of consoles are not even up to half time in their life span and the games are improving every day.

    i dont care about the framerate and crap like that. as long as it plays well and looks decent enough then im happy. and theyve got plenty of time to polish this. if its out by end of april surely they have til the beginning of april to complete it and get it passed and into production. so thats 2 months. thats plenty of time.
  • metalangel #55 2 years ago

    PLEASE don't turn this into yet another PC vs console argument. There is nothing new to be said that hasn't already been said hundreds of times before over the last 15 or so years.
  • Moonprince #56 2 years ago

    "after 6 months what you have is old"

    So clueless...
  • Kill_Crazy #57 2 years ago

    @Gazza_UK

    I also hate John Wayne films but like these 'westerns' - Open Range, Tombstone, The Proposition, Unforgiven, The Wild Bunch and (maybe) Young Guns. All are great films that just happen to be westerns.
  • deanimate #58 2 years ago

    Moonprince:
    "after 6 months what you have is old"

    So clueless...

    Exactly. Someone needs to ease off the ignorance pie.
  • Stebopaloola #59 2 years ago

    Noticed a lot of disdain for John Wayne, which I really get, most of his output has dated very badly. The Searchers is an incredible, epic and surprisingly dark film however. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is a great 'small town' Western with Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne - well worth a watch. Rio Bravo is good old fashioned fun too.
  • Shinetop #60 2 years ago

    John Wayne is good in that he paved the road for Clint Eastwood and Sergio Leone. :)
  • lp24h #61 2 years ago

    @ metalangle
    im not trying to start a pc vs console debate. i just get fed up seeing people bang on in the comments saying release this on pc!! why? buy a console if you want to play it. too many people are fixated with pc only or console only. just if you really want to play something then do yourself a favour and buy the platform its on.

    @ Moonprince and deanimate
    how am i clueless or ignorant? everone is entitled to their own opinion. and your opinion is diff to mine. i like pc games. and have quite a few. its a better platform for FPS but what i find is annoying is how you buy yourself a decent pc and then 6 months later they release a game and your pc struggles to play it even tho its a damn good pc. im interested in just playing the game. sod all the modding and what not. play the game as it was intended
  • spekkeh #62 2 years ago

    So, it's more of the pretty ridiculous "hey help this total stranger by killing ten other total strangers with no incentive whatsoever".

    This better have some decent storytelling, and no I'm not talking about GTAIV storytelling, or a really campy wild west setting, or else R* has lost me on their sandboxgames for ever.
  • Eurytus #63 2 years ago

    It's a classic Rockstar moment. The nocturnal calm is shattered by the shrieks of a prostitute bursting out of a saloon as a man chases her down and assaults her in the street. I move swiftly to her aid but, still acquainting myself with the controls, succeed only in kicking her in the face as she writhes helplessly on the ground.

    The man flees back inside as the girl scrambles to her feet and away. I give chase to the attacker, drawing a rifle as he cowers behind the bar blind-firing. A moment later I have him clean in my sights by the open backdoor and unload a round. Which sails past his torso, through the door, over the street and into the stomach of a girl 20 yards away, who drops to her knees with a blood-curdling scream. The same girl I'd been trying to save. There are belly laughs and there are belly laughs.



    As an example of why video gaming is often consigned to the fringes of popular culture this can't be beat.
    Yeah, hilarious.
  • bad09 #64 2 years ago

    @ lp24h

    and exactly why does people asking about their platform of choice offend you so?

    Oh, and Moonprince and deanimate called you clueless for your take on PC gaming. They were correct I'm afraid....
  • Miths #65 2 years ago

    Damn this is looking promising. I'm just a little skeptical about that release date, but perhaps a couple of months is enough for what sounds like fairly major engine optimization?
  • earobus #66 2 years ago

    Sounds great to me this is gonna crucify every other western game of recent times, love gta love westerns put the two together with a few new ideas and i will be there at launch to pull the trigger and find out!
  • kendoji #67 2 years ago

    I don't game much any more, but this is one of the few definite purchases for me this year. Can't wait.
  • OnlyMe #68 2 years ago

    You know, this is almost certainly going to be the game that gets my brother to buy a next-gen console. Most likely a PS3.
  • beckyh #69 2 years ago

    So the map size is bigger than San Andreas? I don't like that idea at all. San Andreas had cities and it was still too big, yet turn of the century Western is not going to have cities and will have small towns scattered around at best, with lots of space doing nothing but being just dust and wildlife.
    I am really lookiing forward to this game but I do hope the mass of land is not going to ruin it.
  • Martin #70 2 years ago

    I had never heard of this until now but sounds quite great tbh.

    Going to keep an eye on this.
  • dfooster #71 2 years ago

    three points.

    Point 1. people saying i liked gun and red dead revolver so im getting this. well other than them all being westerns i think this is going ot be a completely different beast to gun and revolver. you might as well say i like gran turismo so im getting GTA4 cos its got driving cars in it.

    Point 2. @ the pc crowd moaning. im sorry but you buy a pc for certain games that are better on the pc like RTS and FPS games. console owners dont moan when a pc game gets released but not on consoles cos they accept they bought one or the other that best suits their tastes. so if you love rockstars games then buy a console cos thats what they are designed to be played on. the pc is always an after thought with rockstar and rightly so, just as the console is an after thought for crytek's crisis also rightly so.

    Point 3. this game looks awesome and whats best is its a game im as hyped up about to play as much as i was with GTA4, yet i only found out about it last week and now i only have 7-8 weeks to wait until i get my hands on it. excellent!!