Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction Comments by Kristan Reed

@bioreit: Atari ST sucks! 4-bitplane colour, no blitter? LOLZOR! Amiga FTW!

@ monkie_king

Pfft! Amiga boys were always the wannabes! Hi-res monochrome beats custom CPU any day of the week! Plus our whole machine and keyboard was built into one sleek, ultra-portable unit, unlike your Wide Load units taking up the space of a small country!

"As long as Warhawk is still popular by then!"

I can see years of life in Warhawk if they keep fixing bugs and release the odd dose of DLC from time to time.

its a kiddies game!

@ kangarootoo

True, but I tend to find that after the initial rush that follows a good game's release and once another one or two other good online games come out, the good matches can kind of dry up.

Battlefield 2: Modern Combat, in my opinion, is still one of the best online console games ever (if you like the 'being in a warzone' type of game), but the numbers of annoying, spawn camping helicopter pilots who've had a year or so to hone their 'skills' on newbies has really started to grate on me and my friends.

And it's definitely suffering from the Counterstrike syndrome of only playing two or three maps over and over and over and ohmygod can we please just play SOMETHING DIFFERENT!?

But I guess that could have been solved by little tweaks and content updates, so let's just say I'll be quietly hopeful about Warhawk, shall we? :-)

Frod a Sony rep was the first one to say such things apparently, Seamus was simply borrowing maybe because it seemed to have worked for Sony on gullable fanboys? but they are the kings of hype and missleading information. It was a good try ;) but that has always been something to laugh at Sony about, be honest they do stuff like that all the time and fanboys do nothing but make excuses for them.

/resists urge to poke fun at another 8 for a big PS3 exclusive, not that its a bad score(seems generous really) or the score is all important or that I was interested in it to begin with. Its just that we've had to read so much Bull from the Sony trolls, you know?

Super Mario Galaxy got 10/10 and Ratchet... a better game in my opinion, only 8/10???? hummmm

@bioreit
I hope Warhawk doesn't die out soon, I need mining fodder!

"/resists urge to poke fun at another 8 for a big PS3 exclusive"

/shows reason why he should resist this urge: metacritic.

5 sources gave it a 100%, including notable XBox fanboys X-Play show.

Having said that, an 8 is what it should be getting in my eyes.

SeesThroughAll I dont value any of those sources that scored above 80%, but it wasnt meant to be taken to seriously I wasnt really bothered about the game to begin with(it has its fans*who were buying it anyway* I can see its not a system seller or AAA to me, atleast it turned out ok though, enjoy it :-) ), hating on a game you dont 'get' personally is something Ive never 'got' I mean it's just not my cup of tea, am I filled with the urge to join every discussion about said game to tell everyone all about that? Well no! ;)

LOL, good one mate.

edit: got your edit now

PS: That's it, I'm really fed up of Apologie. I know he's said worst bullshit before, but I don't have the patience for his spam anymore. The guy is as bad as TRUTH.

Sorry I edited incase you pointed out that wasnt resisting at all(just saying I was and then telling you) lol

Yes, but the *sixth* revision? That's stretching it a bit, even for the hardcore fans, of which I am one.

Yeah, that's why they stopped the James Bond movies after the fifth.

What do you mean they didn't? They made more than twenty!!!???? Insane!

Not very innovative?

What did Halo 3 get again? Was it an 8?

I must be the only one who hasn't "ignored" Apologie - For everybody else, I feel duty bound to point out that he has just said that R&C is a superior game to Super Mario Galaxy.

Seriously.

I mean. *COME ON.*

solid frame rate, amazing graphics, very responsive and intuitive gameplay, inventive weapons, good story and humor... well, definitely 8/10. *the anti-Ps3 at it's best. ;)
i would like to know in what way Super Mario Galaxy is innovative, i mean Ratchet is 8/10 because it's not particulary innovative... Super MArio GAlaxy is 10/10..., because it's not on PS3.

Have you play Super MArio Apologie?

I didn't think it was out yet?

I enjoyed the first R&C but the copy died on me before I could finish it. The 360 could use Team ICO and Insomniac clone studios.

Anyone here kindly name me a few non-FPS titles coming out in 2008 for the 360.. this game almost had my mouth watering for a PS3 and that's not good.. Not good at all! :P

Morriss - that hardly matters.

How? He said he thought R&C was better. i.e. he's played both and compared them.

@apologie

I know what you mean. Lack of innovation/originality and short play time are used to deduct points from some games but not from others. It's too arbitrary.

Picking this up... hopefully next week.

"I know what you mean. Lack of innovation/originality and short play time are used to deduct points from some games but not from others. It's too arbitrary. '"

Well it depends now doesn't it, Mario 64 was a 10/10 game, whereas no R&C game ever was, ever heard the expression "if it isn't broke don't fix it". SMG has kept the characteristsics that people loved the same, and added some diversity and polish, it didn't need to improve per se, hence the fact both games scored 10.

Not including multi-platform non FPS titles, im looking forward to:
Banjo
Lost Odyssey
Halo Wars
Cry On
Ninja Gaiden 2
KUF
Fable 2
Infinite Undiscovery
.....and a bunch of xbla titles like Rez, Omega Factor and Ikaruga.
Ive probably forgot a few too though if you add the FPS & multiplatform, there's more than enough to play next year

One again, Eurogamer proves how firmly biased against PS3 they are. This 8/10 score is ludicrous and can only stem from ignorance or prejudice. I won't be checking out this website in a while, that's for sure.

You lost all stock with me.

This is the 1st full price PS3 game that I actually want to play.
Sadly there's only one download game that I also want to play (Stardust...) so it's still not enough to tempt to buy a PS3.

I like Insomniac games though - always have!

@thinred

As opposed to the 8 Gears of Wars got! Grow up boyo

@DjFlex52

Nice list.. Perhaps Barlog can be tempted to join the cause now that he left the GoW team? ;)

"One again, Eurogamer proves how firmly biased against PS3 they are. This 8/10 score is ludicrous and can only stem from ignorance or prejudice. I won't be checking out this website in a while, that's for sure.

You lost all stock with me."

Boohoo, throw those toys out of the pram!

Nice list.. Perhaps Barlog can be tempted to join the cause now that he left the GoW team? ;)

@Pulsar_t

Someone's going to snag him if he doesn't do it on his own.
If he does, the target date for any game would have to be 2009 at the earliest.

@Drpwnage:
sod off, funny guy.

@Pulsar_t:
the Gears of War score was ages ago. Lately, all EG does is take any opportunity to bash PS3.

@thinred

couldn't agree more... but that's not exclusive to EuroGamer, i see that ignorant behavior in many places.

couldn't agree more... but that's not exclusive to EuroGamer, i see that ignorant behavior in many places.

@Apologie

Ignorance or subjective opinion/criticism?

For weeks, Apologie, you've claimed how superior the PS3 is to the 360 in EVERY way. But then you want the PS3 games to be judged on the same plane as 360 & Wii games.
IMHO, PS3 is more scrutinized because of all the hype of its "superiority" by Sony and Sony fanboys and the higher cost compared to the 360 & Wii.

With all its PS3 superior tech, a game (SMG) on a system that costs almost half the price of a PS3 is comparable (somewhat) graphically and gameplay-wise to Ratchet on the "superior" and costly PS3.

Hence, SMG a 10/10 and Ratchet a 8/10 ;)

Are we mistaking lots of color for great graphics? Many of the textures are very PS2-esque.

The game does look pretty good, but "some of the best we've seen" good? I hope not...

The game does look pretty good, but "some of the best we've seen" good? I hope not...

Art direction is one thing - I don't have a PS3 so I only know the game from what I played at Games Convention this year - but from a technical standpoint the game offers a lot. If you like the art direction the game definetly shines, however if you aren't a great fan of the style then the draw distance and quality of animation don't mean much though.

Eurogamer is hardly the only place that gave it an 8. Around a 3rd of all the reviews so far are under 9.

Many of the major sites/mags have scored it under 9.

Gamespot 7.5, Edge 8, Games TM 6, Gamespy 4/5, 1Up 8.5.

The game is beautiful, the textures are bold, yes, but not PS2 level, that's idiotic. The models reallyare incredibly impressive though, especially the humanoids as opposed to the robots. Ratchet, for example is simply amazing to look at.

Crikey moses! Mario Galaxy gets a perfect 10/10, while the PS3's "killer app" only gets an 8/10! If I were Sony I would be scared about two years ago when the Wii was announced!

Mario Galaxy is not good because of the Wii I think you'll find. The game is good, from what I can tell, regardless of platform.

The game is beautiful, the textures are bold, yes, but not PS2 level

Bold is the new 'shit' then eh? ;-)

No, but seriously R&C has never been a particularly amazing franchise, I don't know why some of you are crying about the 8/10 and calling EG 'biased', if the last Ratchet games are anything to go by, an 8 is more than generous imo. Oh and even mentioning SMG and R&C in the same sentence is ludicrous! This franchise well never compare to the likes of Mario (and I'm not even a Mario fan ffs)

A much better review than the joke that was the gamespot review.

Excellent. One in me Santa sack, thanks!

I can understand an 8. Not having played the full game...
Better than the really quite harsh EDGE 6.

Best looking platformer?

the PS3's "killer app"

lawl

"In some senses, Insomniac does need a clip 'round the ear for doing very little to innovate the gameplay in any meaningful sense, but if you're happy to play through a wonderful high definition version of an old classic, put your money down - you won't be remotely disappointed."

There's plenty of cases in which doing just that can earn you a 10/10...

"That wasn't Ken, it was Microsoft talking about the Xbox:"

No, no, no, that can't be right. Ken is EVIL

"When you take something out of a game that people like, are we supposed to pat them on the back for it and let it pass without comment. I don't give two hoots about the lack of online, but there are a lot of people who probably do care."

Please name all 5 of them...

LOL at the people saying this has PS2 textures. If you're not trolling you need some new eyes.

ZOMG!

Teh jaggiezzz !!11!!!!

My eyez blid!

Arwin wrote: "(*with a 5 hour SP mode, bad compression in the video, budgetted textures and basically a very DVD limited game made worse by the 6.8 GiB of space avialable on Microsoft's system - thanks Microsoft, even the PS2 could hold nearly 9GB, see Champions of Norrath)."

Dual layer DVD states 8.5GB but hold 7.9GB of data Arwin (same on the PS2 or any other DVD drive), not 6.8GB or nearly 9GB. So that's 7.9GB of data for 360 games.

http://www.dvd-and-media.com/dual-layer-...

Some people think Dual layer DVD holds 9GBs and therefore 7.9GB for 360 games means 1.1GB is reserved. However, the 'missing' 1.1GB is actually not reserved at all, but a result of how GBs are measured on DVD. As with hard drives, it's measured to base-10 instead of base-2, so 1GB is 1000 x 1000 x 1000 (base-10) instead of 1024 x 1024 x 1024 (base-2). Hence a 100GB HDD will be 100 x 1000 x 1000 x 1000, which is 93GB (base-2) when formatted, and is the reason why some people are confused when they format a HDD and find that it is smaller than they expected!

So to repeat, all Dual layer DVDs are 8.5GB, i.e. 8.5 x 1000000000, which is 7.9GB when measured to base-2 (7.9 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024), hence there's 7.9GB available for 360 games.

Besides, you've counted the difference 'lost' twice, subtracting 1.1 from 7.9 to arrive at 6.8GB. What next? Will it be 5.7GB? ;)

EDIT: Sorry, I thought the first page was the last. Still, after typing all of that reply, I'm leaving it. :)

(Other edits are for spelling and grammar).

So to repeat, all Dual layer DVDs are 8.5GB, i.e. 8.5 x 1000000000, which is 7.9GB when measured to base-2 (7.9 x 1024 x 1024 x 1024), hence there's 7.9GB available for 360 games.

That's still not entirely correct for 360 games though :). About 1.5 gb of the 360 discs are used up by security measurements and the DVD part that shows the info that it's a 360 game should you put it into a DVD player. So a 360 disc can actually hold about 7GB of data.