Rare researching GoldenEye for Kinect?

By Robert Purchese Published 14 July, 2010

Burton: "There are so many possibilities."

Rare's Nick Burton has hinted that fuller, more traditional games may be developed at the studio for Kinect.

Rare is hard at work on Kinect Sports, but Burton offered a glimmer of hope to a Brighton Develop audience this morning when asked if we would ever see a GoldenEye-like game for Microsoft's new device.

"For us, until you start on that product, it's difficult to say what we're going to do," he tentatively began.

"We got so excited about Kinect. There's something in there... What we've seen with Kinect is that it's just the first wave.

"There are so many possibilities for those kind of things," he added, returning to the question. "But I'm not going to tell you what they are. You've got so many inputs, why would you not use those for any experience?"

Burton stood in for Rare's creative director George Andreas and delivered a speech about the studio taking risks. When Kinect - then Project Natal - appeared, the decision to support the device was a "no-brainer", Burton said, which must have been handy for studio owner Microsoft.

"Kinect had our name written all over it," he added.

Burton showed the audience a video of the football mini-game from Kinect Sports. In it, players pass either left or right to team-mates that have football icons above their heads. There's no running, and the last defender backs off to allow you a shot at goal. [Sounds pretty realistic for England. - Ed]

This will be playable at gamescom next month, and is one of the "cornerstones" of the Kinect Sports package, Burton promised.

In closing, Burton - who has a background in medical visual equipment - said he "couldn't have predicted" he'd be standing on the stage today talking about a motion-sensing Kinect football game.

"It really does feel like what we started with Slalom [NES] that we've really realised what [Rare founders the Stampers] were trying to do," he beamed.

"When my daughter gets to my age, where will we have taken things to?"

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Comments (34) Latest comment 2 years ago

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  • Bremenacht #1 2 years ago

    It would be good if RARE did something new with the same impact as a Goldeneye or Jetpac, rather than just harking back to those days to keep the old fans happy. We've moved on, dontchaknow!

    Correction: It would be nice if gaming journos stopped harking back to Goldeneye etc, so that RARE don't have to talk about it.

    /RARE fanboy hat on: Blast Corps using Kinept could be good..
    Edited by Bremenacht at 14/07/10 @ 13:55

  • KRadiation #2 2 years ago

    Can't see it working myself.

    How would you move around the room, how do you strafe, how do you turn on the spot, how do you fire weapons, how do you swap weapons?

    There are so many possibilities... but probably none for FPS titles.

  • darkmorgado #3 2 years ago

    Can it have monkeys in it? I like monkeys.

  • Distributor #4 2 years ago

    No FPS or any game requiring precise movement will ever be seen on the Kinect. Fact.

  • Deckard1 #5 2 years ago

    \points fingers at screen

    pew pew pew

    \blows tops of fingers

    Well I'm sold.

  • Toothball #6 2 years ago

    I don't think FPS games are going to work at all with Kinect. Tim Schafer has the right idea on this. Kinect games are going to have to be envisioned with Kinect in mind, not ported from existing series. Trying to play Goldeneye as is just won't work.

    @Distributor:

    I wouldn't write off precision entirely. Sure it won't work an FPS or something like that, but I imagine a game like Dance Central does a much better job with it. It'll really come down to context
    Edited by Toothball at 14/07/10 @ 14:08

  • simplerotation #7 2 years ago

    I don't see how kinect will work for shooters. There's no buttons and it isn't sensitive enough to detect your finger on the trigger.

    Wiill you literally point your finger at the screen and say "pew, pew, pew" when you want to fire a bullet? Because that sounds like it sucks balls.

  • darkmorgado #8 2 years ago

    I assumed that, as Activision is publishing a new Goldeneye game on the Wii, that either Nintendo or Activision retained the rights to the name?

  • Bradach #9 2 years ago

    more loose headlines... is EG becoming the gamers tabloid?

  • Eraser #10 2 years ago

    Rare keeps bringing up the topic of GoldenEye to stay in the picture. It's just not going to happen.

  • makeamazing #11 2 years ago

    This is all part of the media blitz as far as i am concerned... we are researching it... none news item (I dont mean from EG's point of view but from MS) but its a PR excercise... kinda like "how do we try and keep more hardcore gamers on our side"... oh i know lets say we are researching a game that was popular..... Though this isnt as bad as all the Milo stuff recently.... like a punch an judy show "Its a Game"... "On no it isnt". "Oh yes it is"
    Edited by makeamazing at 14/07/10 @ 14:10

  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #12 2 years ago

    GoldenEye was good, nay GREAT! - 14 years a go. People need to take off their rose-coloured monicles and stop harking back to the 'good 'ol days'. They were good, cos we didn't have any better.

    Anyway, GoldenEye wouldn't work with Kinect - it's an FPS.. there are so many controls, it wouldn't be a good gaming experience without a controller.

  • Tomo #13 2 years ago

    Aye, where the hell did that headline come from? They hardly answered suggesting they could be making Goldeneye. More that they're just thinking about more complicated games than just SPORTS.

    And bears shit in woods.

  • flaming.carrot #14 2 years ago

    There may be many possibilities, but that football mini games sounds a bit shite to me. Sorry. Maybe I need to see it in action.

  • chasejamie #15 2 years ago

    Wow ace. Didn't read the article at all, but wow can't wait to play Goldeneye on the 360 with kinnect. Is it out this Christmas? Will it have split screen? Yeeesssss! About time. Rejoice! Oh wait, just read article. It's not coming out is it? Bugger.

  • jack_klugman #16 2 years ago

    Bogus headline. Shoddy.

  • TeaFiend #17 2 years ago

    Just let Goldeneye eke out it's last few days in the retirement home, stop wishing it back. It has not aged gracefully. I never played it when younger and got the opportunity to a few years back, it is rubbish now.

  • macmurphy #18 2 years ago

    This is a cheap trick, just chucking out the Goldeneye name to get hits. This really is the lowest common denominator of journalism, not what I'd expect from Eurogamer.

    What next, a 'close friend' telling us that actually Goldeneye is in development but that it's at an early stage. And the Stamper brothers were forced out of Rare because they had midgets dressed as Banjo going round with silver platters of coke and it was harming productivity?

    Mr. Purchese wants gripping, he's missed the funny headline attempt and just comes across as misleading and deceptive.

  • LazyDan #19 2 years ago

    Goldeneye remake project? Check.
    Post-N64 RARE? Check.
    Shoehorned motion controls? Check!

    If this were building up to be any more of a disappointment, it'd be a Sonic game.

  • Distributor #20 2 years ago

    @toothball, by precision I mean RTS type of precision, selecting units, moving them across the screen, deselecting, scrolling menus, selecting options and so on.

    Ofcourse its all down to how the UI is made, but remember that there isnt any sort easy "gripping" of objects in Kinect....not yet atleast.

  • slippysloppy #21 2 years ago

    Kinect will struggle all the time there's a price barrier. Wii games with better graphics just won't cut it for me.

  • LeeroyJenkins #22 2 years ago

    Rare. Now making amazing games. Rarely.

  • Britesparc Verified Creative, ITV #23 2 years ago

    Y'know what would work with Kinect? Something like Time Crisis or Virtua Cop.

    XBLA version, please.

  • FogHeart #24 2 years ago

    "When my daughter gets to my age, where will we have taken things to?"

    Well I'm still banking on a zombie-infested post-apocalyptic wasteland planet scenario.

  • des #25 2 years ago

    "There's no running, and the last defender backs off to allow you a shot at goal. [Sounds pretty realistic for England. - Ed] "

    lol

  • kangarootoo #26 2 years ago

    "How would you move around the room, how do you strafe, how do you turn on the spot, how do you fire weapons, how do you swap weapons?"

    Well these are all valid questions, but they are questions that would be answered by a designer as part of their job. Just 'cos you can't answer the questions yourself in a few moments doesn't mean they can't be answered (not saying they will be answered, but you see what I mean).


    Regardless, I always struggle to find somethhing interesting in a company owned studio waxing lyrical about the possibilities of their parent company's newest bit of kit. What else would we expect them to say?



    And much as I tend to avoid this sort of thing, what the hell has been going on revently with EG asking someone a question, and then printing an answer that was never given, but with a question mark on the end of it. Should we expect to see future headlines like "Farmville developer working on faster than light drive?", just 'cos you asked them about it? Pull it together.

  • andywilkie35 #27 2 years ago

    Can you imagine if Rare and Microsoft somehow obtained the rights to release GoldenEye on the Xbox, and it controlled exclusively with Kinect?

    Would literally be pissing on one of the greatest games of all time. Like getting your GoldenEye cartridge, thinking about sticking it in the N64 but decide to piss on it first, then try and play and wonder why it suddenly doesn't work.

  • BlinxHDD #28 2 years ago

    They're taking a risk alright.

    :( Rare.

  • TRUTH #29 2 years ago

    GoldenEye is so dated, still have it on my N64 - plays dreadful and looks awful, AI is crap...It nothing today!

  • TRUTH #30 2 years ago

    Rare are absolute shit!...nothing interests me from them now. MS messed Rare up to produce utter nonsense!

  • Freek #31 2 years ago

    Nooooooo.

    Wait let me rephrase that: fuck noooo!

  • Bander #32 2 years ago

    I'm only playing GoldenEye on Kinect if it allows me to do this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP5c_MEs9mo

  • schnide #33 2 years ago

    If you can use a joypad at the same time as Kinect, how do you account for the difference in lag, however small Kinect's may be compared to previously thought?

  • Geordiemp #34 2 years ago

    MS : We do have some proper games that use kinect, trust us (but no details yet).

    Do we or dont we ?