WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW Review

All right, we don't really care about wrestling any more. But Gary Cutlack does.

Version tested: PlayStation 2

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You're going to read two types of review of this, written by two types of people. Type 1 is the rubbish type written by lazy hacks who haven't seen wrestling since ITV stopped showing it in 1988. They will speak in clichés, mentioning men in lycra, thigh-slapping, the fact that it all "looks a bit gay" and will name-check the only two wrestlers they've ever heard of - Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks. Both of those men are dead. This is a Type 2. We know about post-1988 wrestling and can tell the difference between JBL and Garrison Cade by looking at their elbows.

We know that last year's Here Comes the Pain marked the highpoint of THQ's PlayStation2 wrestling efforts, starred the amazing Brock Lesnar and pushed Sony's ageing black slab to new levels of performance. SmackDown! vs. RAW is the same as that. Everything's back, which is good news, and also a marginal disappointment.

The SmackDown! series has always been busting with options. Every match type from the telly, all the pay-per-view oddball fights, the degrading and simultaneously arousing lady fights, the works - it's all in here. Screens and screens of options await, but they did just that in 2003's Here Comes the Pain.

Minor tweaks have been made to sideline features like the wrestlers' entrances to the ring, but seeing Eddie Guerrero driving his car to ringside is hardly an electrifying new experience worth £40. The Bra and Panties matches - where you rip off your female opponent's clothes in what some might call a Violent Rape Mode - is back. Just thinking about it makes us blush.

Can you see what the Japanese men are programming!?

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The new stuff in SmackDown! vs. Raw is confined mostly to minor play additions, and even then it's hardly worth writing - or even texting - home about. It's WWE Mini Games Edition, with loads of "Press this now!" and "Quick! Hit a button! Be excited!" diversions added to fill the gaps. Now you enter a slapping contest at the start of a match, or indulge in another button-pressing coordination test to escape a hold.

Nice little ideas, but hardly the sort of groundbreaking innovations that are going to change the way wrestling videogames are thought about and designed for the next decade.

The fighting itself is the same as before. You grab, punch and kick in combination with the D-pad to pull off moves, with each wrestler having an identical stock of actions and a few specific special attacks. It's simple, it's fast, it works and it's accessible to people who wouldn't know a Rock Bottom from a reach-around. You do special moves by pressing a button when the logo comes on the screen. It's that easy. A dog could play it and have fun.

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The physics are better now. Ladders and tables do less floating around and don't go through the scenery in such an obvious fashion, plus the PS2-controlled players are more intelligent than before. Now they actually follow the rules of the match you're playing, react to your moves better, get stuck and confused less and offer a bigger challenge.

Developer Yuke's has also added a load of new challenges to add more of a solo test. Now, as if you're playing Tony Hawk, there's a grid of tasks for you to take on. Do a certain move on a certain opponent, use three finishers in a row, do a poo on someone's chest, that kind of thing. This is not a particularly thrilling or innovative addition, but at least they have tried.

Another mini tweak is the chance to be a ‘clean' or ‘dirty' fighter, with an extra little gauge filling up as you progress towards the light or dark side. More powerful attacks, temporary invulnerability and super, super special taunts are available to the full of gauge as a reward.

Can you hear what the man is speaking!?

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Oh, and now you hear their voices. Most of the big WWE superstars have recorded dialogue, so now you get to enjoy them awkwardly delivering lines as you hack through the Career game. You'd think this would limit and contract the game's Career mode, but no - it's bigger, more involving and interactive than before.

This follow-a-fighter story game branches off more often, features different plots for key characters, and has your actions taking the plot down different routes. Although there are still plenty of generic, non-specific lines of dialogue ("Ahh! It's you again! I knew you would do this thing again!"), the feeling of following a whole year's worth of WWE programming unfold is quite superb.

It's all very-like-the-telly indeed. PlayStation2 is defying its age to produce incredibly detailed wrestlers, and maker Yuke's has once again captured the look and feel of the superstars perfectly.

Can you see where the cracks are appearing!?

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But this game has captured the WWE at a downturn. Last year's Next Big Thing Brock Lesnar has quit and isn't in it. That's a massive loss for his "jogging on the spot" victory celebration alone. Steve Austin isn't here either, nor is the mighty Goldberg. In their place are a collection of charisma-free, cookie-cutter beefcakes that wouldn't set anyone's loins afire with wrestling or homoerotic desire. Like, for example, Mark Jindrak. He's in, even though you wouldn't recognise him if he introduced himself while wearing a "Hi, I'm Mark Jindrak off the wrestling" T-shirt.

So you're left with fading, ageing stars and non-descript newcomers. A sad state of affairs, but one that accurately reflects WWE TV's current flaccid and directionless output.

And the one big saving grace - online play - is a massive letdown. Only two match types are available in link-up mode; standard Singles and Bra & Panties games. That, frankly, is rubbish. Add to this the lack of any ranking or statistics and you're left with a pretty sterile, dull and meaningless online option that hasn't been done properly and therefore shouldn't have been done at all.

Can you read what the reviewer is summarising!?

This isn't SmackDown! vs. Raw. It's last year's SmackDown! with a few mini-games, an updated (and therefore poorer) rota and embarrassingly duff online play. As a wrestling game, though, it's still the best - the fastest, smoothest and most authentic representation of the clenbuterol pantomime. But if you've got Here Comes the Pain (now available for half the price, remember), this near-identical remix is hardly worth the outlay for the mini-innovations it contains. If it was a £4.99 downloadable upgrade, though, it'd be essential. The law of diminishing returns has well and truly smacked the score down.

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7 / 10

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Comments (26) Latest comment 6 years ago

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  • HairyArse #1 7 years ago

    Hold on tight, it's gonna be a bumpy ride.

    WILL YOU NOW RELEASE THE TARDS PLEASE.

    /buckles up
  • DaM #2 7 years ago

    Where are they?! USA just waking up..... behold the flood!
  • TheDifficult3rdAlbum #3 7 years ago

  • Singularity #4 7 years ago

    Quality review fellas. Chuckled several times. Which is problematic since I'm sitting in a European Law lecture. : S
  • tengu #5 7 years ago

    What a spectacular load of cock this game is!

    I truly cannot see how anyone would derive pleasure from playing this.
  • Amajiro #6 7 years ago

    I don't give a toss about these games, but isn't the "." in "'vs." redundant?
  • Pinchy #7 7 years ago

    can i just ask if you deliberately chose the picture on the front page to depict wrestling as the gaylord ridden bumfest that we all know it is?

    If so, good work.
  • blablabla #8 7 years ago

    Has the create-a-player system had any overhaul or extension?

    The lasts had some weird japanese translations in for the morphing functions, are they still there? Is the morphing even still there?

    Any hidden characters, sections, movesets of note?
  • El_MUERkO #9 7 years ago

    I used to watch the wrestiling on syy before football focus on a saturday, great for the hangover, no more... no more
  • blablabla #10 7 years ago

    I've not watched it in years. It's a fun soap-opera when it works though.
  • Stevas mkII #11 7 years ago

    For the subheadings alone, I would say this is possibly the best review ever in the whole history of everesness.

    "Can you hear what the man is speaking!?"

    Genius.
  • Big-Swiss #12 7 years ago

    I hate wrestling games, and I hate all the people asking for m070rb1k3s!

    except for the regulars of course which are doing a running gag!
  • ralphwolfenstein #13 7 years ago

    so basically you're saying if you don't own Here Comes the Pain add another two points?

    or is it not actually as good?
  • Eighthours #14 7 years ago

    "Eurogamer Staff"?? Fess up, who wrote this one?
  • blablabla #15 7 years ago

    >or is it not actually as good?

    Well, this is the lowest review I've seen of it, most have given it an 8. They all say though, that it looks great, the online play is a letdown, theyve stripped the backstage areas, Create-a-Belt & PPV are pretty good and the gameplay is basically as good as the previous one.

    (Which I've lost my copy of, so will probably be picking this up for a party game.)
  • Shinji #16 7 years ago

    "Eurogamer Staff"?? Fess up, who wrote this one?

    As it says on the frontpage, Gary Cutlack did. I guess we just don't have a writer account (with attendant amusing picture) for him in the backend yet...
  • geophilips #17 7 years ago

    Where is the HL2 review? and u hav time for this load of crap and a first impession of Everquest 2?? Unbelievable!!!
  • DDevil #18 7 years ago

    They've taken the "Create an Animation" (read: taunt) mode out this year. Which is good, as it sucks.

    I think what NEEDS to be mentioned though is that all these little "mini games" and the fact you can cheat to win (holding on when the opponent reaches the ropes etc) makes it feel like you're actually playing in a proper WWE match.

    7 or 8 would be my score definately.
  • masterson #19 7 years ago

    "What a spectacular load of cock this game is! "

    Clearly the homo-erotic qualities of this game aren't lost on tengu...
  • blablabla #20 7 years ago

  • Tiger_Walts #21 7 years ago

    So, Gary Cutlack is the new mouse...
  • blablabla #22 7 years ago

    Well I picked it up last night. It's a fairly good looking game (apart from the women faces *shudder* ) but so far appears to be a notable step backwards gameplay wise. Eg, first match in a season mode, when your stats are all 2 out of 10 (meaning you cant absorb or give any damage), who do they put you up against for your first match? Big Show. You can hammer away at him for 10 minutes but if you give him opportunity to do 2 moves at any point, youve lost. Plus the computer has a habit of going into infinite combos and all you can do id dit back and wait to be pinned.

    Not looking good.

    Edit: Yup, the season mode is crap. Instead of being a low-grade wrestler and slowly working your way up through the seasons in semi-realsim, you get to be put in the main events basically straight away, even if youve lost all your matches, when your stats are still at 2s and 3s so all you can do is sat back and watch them reverse every move, hit you twice and pin you.

    If it doesn't improve soon, this'll be the worst smackdown game I've ever played.

    Edited by 1 at 20/11/04 @ 10:51
  • blablabla #23 7 years ago

    Well, it does get better in some ways later on but it still lacks something compared to the other Smackdown games. Some gameplay weaknesses often make the game bizarrely easy too. Eg, in the final culmination to the season, I was to have a 'career-shortening 3 Stages of Hell match'.

    Match 1: Grab the conveniently placed belt, hit the guy half a dozen times, pin.
    Match 2: Grab the conveniently placed belt, hit the guy half a dozen times, pin.

    Win.

    Overall length of the 'career-shortening 3 Stages of Hell match'? About 2 minutes not including load times.

    Also the soundtrack really grates after a while, it would have been nice to have some of the Motorhead or Marilyn Manson tracks they normally dot about the games. Though luckily you can turn it off.

    The unlockable characters, though few, seem to be uniformly well-realised and chosen which is a plus.

    The CAW mode I'm still getting to grips with, but it seems more difficult than the older systems to create lifelike models, though this may (hopefully) come with time.

    I'll be picking it up randomly over the next week or so to finish off all of the unlocking but then it's probably going to be heading back to Gamestation in part exchange for Halo2. Shame really.




    Edit: Gah, implement BBCode syntax you buggers! ¬_¬
    Edited by 1 at 25/11/04 @ 13:12
  • jimhead #24 7 years ago

    ive never actually played the game and i dont plan 2
  • hawaiiandude457 #25 7 years ago

    You know.... i have resently joined Eurogamer, just becuase most of these people that talk are starting to tick me off. Most of guys dont know half the crap ur talking about and preaching to others about complet BS. THe game was mostly a bust, but what do u expect. There arecool parts and mostly bad parts get over ur selves. Sell and stop whining. AND BY THE WAY Osama bin ladin + sa (a Screen name that had resently said some things on this stupid thread a month ago) I DONT KNOW IF UR ALIVE OR IF YOU STILL GO ON THIS SITE,...AMERICA IS ONE OF THE BEST COUNTRYS IN THIS WORLD
    (CONSIDERING WE HAVE WWE) SO IF U GOT A PROBLEM AND UR STUPID THREATS COUTINUE, U CAN JUST GO KILL UR SELF NOW. I AM NOT A BIG FAN OF BUSH, BUT I WOULDNT BE MAKIN FUN OF MY COUNTRY BECASE LOOK AT YOURS U SOB.
    Edited by 1 at 28/01/05 @ 00:43
  • rodpad #26 6 years ago