Unreal Tournament III Comments by Tom Bramwell

"The PS3 memory architecture is a dog but people get round it by streaming in textures from the blu-ray disc - Resistance FoM would fit on a normal DVD if it wasnt for this."

It's a shame the PS3 didn't use a faster drive as it takes around 50% longer to stream the same amount of data from it's bluray drive than the 360s noisy dvd drive. As it stands, it's fortuneate for the higher disc capacity that allows duplcate textures - compressed and uncompressed.

Maybe a future PS3 revision will include a faster drive, and therefore eliminate the need of having to install everything.

The 360 version will be a 10/10 then.

@sd99

The review actually states that the pop in is reduced by installing on the hard drive. No need to "doubt".

@Gurgeh
I thought Insomniac said they didn't get their texture streaming working until Ratchet? In fact oh lookie ... http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?art... I quote "Resistance didn't support texture streaming".

caption: Wrex's "Xibit" costume, was a hit at the Normandy halloween party.



/goes home for christmas.

@sd99
As long as a faster drive is just as quiet. Both Gears and CoD4 on my 360 chug away like a cheap hooker in game. Dependent on the frequency of the loading I would take a longer load time and quiet drive over a quicker load time and obtrusively loud drive. Also depends on what sound level you can play you games at. If you can up you volume levels enough to drown out the drive then it's not such an issue. If you have a wife sat next to you who constantly worries about the neighbours then it is ;).

"Resistance FoM would fit on a normal DVD if it wasnt for this."

Why am I not surprised people still utter idiot statements like this...

Playing this on PS3 rather than PC is like....having sex with your gran, you have to be VERY careful with the controls and it just feels plain wrong! ;-)

"There's too much attention being made towards comparisons IMO, which I don't mind so much in Head-To-Heads etc. but I don't see why so many reviews of PS3 games have to compared to 360... I think even the Uncharted review had to mention the 360...

One simple reason: fanboys are responsible for 99% of the page hits.

Totally unrelated, but recently got a "flat" TV. Looks better in the living room according to my girlfriend... I must say I was surprised by the difference between SD and HD. Which is a bad thing IMO. The extra pixels contribute absolutely nothing to the enjoyment of a game or a movie but they do destroy your enjoyment of SD content... Like with most electronics clearly a case of supplier generated demand...

... aye and why have a car when you can fookin walk!

NickNack

"FFXIII is one, MGS4 is two, I don't know what the other one will be".

Killzone 2 is only possible with BluRay as well.

and here he is

Les wrote: "One simple reason: fanboys are responsible for 99% of the page hits. "

I wish you weren't right about that but I have a feeling you are probably right, it's the only logical reason I guess. The whole subject is getting thin if you ask me.

Also, regarding the SD to HD step... I know what you mean, I moved up to HD, it hasn't added anything to experience really but it does mean my SD games (PS2 / Wii) look a bit fuzzy and worse (they looked better on a normal tv).

This so far has put me off playing Metroid Prime 3 on the Wii... it's here on the shelf but it doesn't look to hot on the old Samsung LCD.

:-/ ahh well.

On the bright side thp' at least my 2600 still looks about the same :-)

Completely agree with the review, this game is superb and far better than I expected it to be given the UE3's poor reputation on the PS3 prior to the release of this game. I installed the game to the HDD straight away so apart from a textures taking a splitsecond to "pop in" when a level loads, I've not noticed any of the issues that affect, say, Mass Effect on the 360. The framerate is a fast and smooth 30 fps, there's only rare instances of slowdown and there's no hitching or anything which kind of spoilt Mass Effect.

I'm not a big fan of online gaming, Gears of War bored me, Halo 3 seems dull but I've always had a place in my heart for UT ever since I played the first game back in 1999. I guess it's the variety of modes coupled with the abundance of free mods and excellent user-made maps which keeps it interesting. My only gripe with the game isn't actually with the game but the PS3 controller which I don't think is as good for FPSs as the 360's controller is. The analogue sticks feel too loose and the triggers are pretty shite in all honesty. I am getting used to it though and at least I can feel rumble with the DualShock 3.

Why did they bother with KB/mouse support, unless they are going to have separate servers for Control pad and KB/mouse users.

It's a stupid idea, seems liked it got messed up anyway.

"Why did they bother with KB/mouse support, unless they are going to have separate servers for Control pad and KB/mouse users."

You can filter Mouse/KB games in/out of the server list.

I look forward to seeing the side by side comparisons. It's funny that the games industry is screaming out for new IP. This smells too much like Gears slapped with a UT logo. It should have had its own unique style. I wonder what the mining company were thinking when they hired these midgets :(

@GamesConnoisseur

You mentioned variety on WarHawk. Have you downloaded the Omega Dawn package? The dropship has spiced things up a bit. It also has the much vaulted "who just killed me cam".

@DrDamn

Link looks broken to me

@sd99 - "Maybe a future PS3 revision will include a faster drive, and therefore eliminate the need of having to install everything."

You do realise that an HDD is far faster than any DVD or BD drive and is more suited to streaming data like textures and so forth? That's one of the reasons all PC games install to the HDD. In an ideal world all games would run off the HDD rather than have to be compromised by streaming data from a slow DVD or BD. The UE3 is designed to use an HDD so it's at a slight disadvantage on the Xbox 360 where developers cannot rely on all users having an HDD. I can't help thinking that Mass Effect would have ran better had it been able to stream data and textures off the HDD not the DVD.

To be honest, I didn't install UT3 on the HDD and apart from the initial texture pop-in when the game first starts I didn't notice any texture pop-in only a little geometry snapping.

I mean, the game moves so fast I don't think there's time to look at any of the detail anyway.

As for the style... it does look a bit drab and a very Gears of War, it would have been nice if they'd change the art style at least a little... the main characters all look like GoW characters, they even talk the same bollocks.

Great gamplay tho'... and very smooth, mod support should be interesting too... I wonder if anyone will make a Halo clone.

ps3 is getting more desirable... I think I'll get one when MGS4 comes out

"This smells too much like Gears slapped with a UT logo."

It's rather the opposite...

"... aye and why have a car when you can fookin walk!"

And once again a comment with a totally out of place analogy... Don't you people ever learn?!

30 frames per second??!!!!
hummm
Lets hope the 360 version runs at 60

Damn, I hate it when trolls change their name...

/Ignores again

PS3 UT3 has better graphics than Gears of War according to Mark Rein, Epic's vice president.

Speaking in an interview with Pro-G at the launch of the PC version of the game, Rein said that he was "really proud" of the PS3 game. PS3 UT3 has better graphics than Gears of War according to Mark Rein, Epic's vice president.

Speaking in an interview with Pro-G at the launch of the PC version of the game, Rein said that he was "really proud" of the PS3 game, He said: "People are going to be pleasantly surprised. It's a really high end experience that pushes the graphics bar up even higher than Gears of War. There's more polygons, there's more stuff going on, there's more explosions and there's more things happening,

http://www.videogamer.com/news/09-11-200...

Ps: Dedicated to all X360 fanboy's complaining about UT3 graphics just because it is exclusive for some time on Sony's system... Merry Christmas

"One simple reason: fanboys are responsible for 99% of the page hits."
"And once again a comment with a totally out of place analogy... Don't you people ever learn?!"
"Why am I not surprised people still utter idiot statements like this... "
"Damn, I hate it when trolls change their name..."

"I must say I was surprised by the difference between SD and HD. Which is a bad thing IMO. The extra pixels contribute absolutely nothing to the enjoyment of a game or a movie but they do destroy your enjoyment of SD content"

@Les

I see you're still being your sweet condescending self and Happy Holidays to you ;)
Even your positive statements have a negative spin....Les-isms!

Ps: Dedicated to all X360 fanboy's complaining about UT3 graphics just because it is exclusive for some time on Sony's system... Merry Christmas

@Apologie

HUH??...There hasnt been one post complaining about UT3's graphics so far in this thread...360 fanboy or otherwise.
All you did was incite someone to respond to you, troll :|

It's a shame Warhawk is so good, I'd probably get this otherwise.

I'd get it on PC if TF2 wasn't so good.

"Maybe a future PS3 revision will include a faster drive, and therefore eliminate the need of having to install everything."

@DrDamn - "You do realise that an HDD is far faster than any DVD or BD drive and is more suited to streaming data like textures and so forth?"

Well duh... :)

My point was, consoles aren't PC's and kids don't want to have to bother installing things - they just want to put the disc in and go. If you want to fart about freeing up discspace by uninstalling, then reinstalling when you fancy a game, well, you might as well have a PC to begin with. IMO one of the best things about my move from PC to console gaming was the removal of hassle like this.

@Apolol

"Dedicated to all X360 fanboy's complaining about UT3 graphics just because it is exclusive for some time on Sony's system"

Erm...No it's not, I think you'll find it's out on the PC aswell? Merry Christmas to you too, mong.

@DjFlex

I wouldn't bother replying to Les, the kids a bit slow, I put him on ignore ages ago...

Kryon

"Dedicated to all X360 fanboy's complaining about UT3 graphics just because it is exclusive for some time on Sony's system"

Erm...No it's not, I think you'll find it's out on the PC aswell? Merry Christmas to you too, mong.

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Assuming your prespective Bioshok and Gears of War (beign available for Pc) are not X360 exclusives too.... and in time, the 3rd Halo will join the previous 2 in Pc as well, so what's the point?? even Mass effect will be launched for Pc next year (now that E.A owns the damn thing)... the only "REA"L exclusives are for the Ps3, you wont find Drakes Fortune, Motorstorm, Gt5, Warhawk, Killzone 2, Resistance, God of War, Little Big Planet, Ratchet, Metal Gear 4 etc... on any platfrom except the Ps3.

Returning to UT3, it's a really good game, i'll buit it sooner or later (no doubt about that) but for now, i'm totally absorved by COD 4 multiplayer.

@Apolol

"Assuming you prespective Bioshok and Gears of War (beign available for Pc) are not X360 exclusives too"

That's exactly my point, you are the one who keeps trolling 360 threads telling everyone that all 360 games are out on PC hence not exclusive, yet when a PS3/PC game is out, it somehow is exclusive to PS3? This is because you are an imbecile.

Anyway, it's great that the PS3 finally has a game that is comparable to Gears visually (even if it is well over a year later) but lets not forget, it's not all about graphics Apolol, Gears is the better game according to about 300 reviews on GameRankings...Oh well, maybe you'll get a triple-A PS3 Exclusive one day eh :-)

I'm glad we have PS3 to give us all these beautiful RPG's and "smart games", that 360 is just shoters... crap.

@ Apolol

Do you ever make a comment that isn't easily debunked given a half ounce of thought? Seriously, dude...just keep your comments specific to the PS3 and you'll stop making a complete ass of yourself with every post.

So, I'm glad the PS3 is the only console with any "real" exclusives because then the 360 wouldn't have such titles as:
PGR
Forza
Beautiful Katamari
Splinter Cell: Conviction
Ninja Gaiden 2
Blue Dragon
PDZ
Crackdown

...and about a billion others. Stop being such a Sony tool and use your brain. People might actually mistake you for being halfway intelligent.

I wonder how much better the 360 version will be? ;]

@Kryon

"Anyway, it's great that the PS3 finally has a game that is comparable to Gears visually (even if it is well over a year later)."

My friend, if we refer only to graphics there are games far superior to Gears in the Ps3, for example Uncharted (not only graphically), Heavenly Sword and UT3 are all better.

You really are stupid, i just did what you (and the X360 trools) used to when a game is out for the X360 and Pc (i assumed that it was exclusive) and at least now, judging by your reaction, you recognized how imbecil you've been, because beign on 2 platforms is the opposite of exclusivity.

@ronuds

You don't buy a x360 (or at least the majority of people don't) because of thouse games.

Almost all my games are exclusive to the 360, what are you guys talking about ?
Then, I also have some exclusive to DS and a few exclusive to PSP, I never buy two copies...

What's the deal with multiple copies?

"My friend, if we refer only to graphics there are games far superior to Gears in the Ps3, for example Uncharted (not only graphically), Heavenly Sword and UT3 are all better."

If "based on Apolol's opinion" made anything in this world true, this would be a fucked up world.

I've seen those games, and while they are impressive, I couldn't hardly say they're any better looking than most 360 games. Uncharted has way too much shine to be considered the "top" looking game. You aren't supposed to be able to see a reflection of yourself in a rock.

@Apolol

"it is exclusive for some time on Sony's system"

"beign on 2 platforms is the opposite of exclusivity."

Well, I'm glad we both agree that you speak shit. I just don't get why you're getting so excited over a multi platform game? It's like you're so traumatised over the loss of GTA IV, DMC4, VF5, Haze, Resident Evil 5, etc, that you're trying to scrape some kind of weird glory just because UT3 will be out a little later (and probably better as usual) on 360...Quite sad really...

Why is it always the same people? Can you randomly change your names just so we can have some fun guessing who you are? Please?

@ Apolol

"You don't buy a x360 (or at least tyhe majority of people don't) because of thouse games, and you know it."


Oh, but people were beating each other over the head for a PS3, so they could get a copy of Warhawk, Ratchet and Clank or Uncharted.

Give it up.

I know this is off-topic, but I have a question: am I the only one who thinks that bioshock looks better than gears of war?

I never played Gears of War, not interested. And I have 3 360's, and I play 40 hours/week, so it's realy a bad call trying to pretend to know what people like to play in each platform, let alone claims like "ooooh Uncharted looks better than my girlfriend!"

LOL @ Miiiguel

@Apolol

I know you probably don't have a girlfriend but if you do, does she look as good as Uncharted?

"I know this is off-topic, but I have a question: am I the only one who thinks that bioshock looks better than gears of war?"

It's so hard to tell these days which game looks better than the other. In some games the environments will look better and in other games the characters and so on.

I'd say that both titles are at least on par with one another. The character models in Gears are hard to beat, however. Like, COD4's environment looks better than Gears, but the characters in Gears look better than COD's. So, which is "better" is nearly impossible to determine by just looking at the games running.

@Kryon

you stupidity is incredible... well, you didn't understood shit "as usual", read our comments again if you want, otherwise stop talking crap ok.

@ronuds

"Oh, but people were beating each other over the head for a PS3, so they could get a copy of Warhawk, Ratchet and Clank or Uncharted.

Give it up. "

No, but they buy the console for games like GT5, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, Uncharted etc... and you don't see them on Pc do you???..;)

@Apolol

What's wrong? Hit a nerve, did I?

Lol...

@ Apolol

"No, but they buy the console for games like GT5, Metal Gear Solid 4, God of War 3, Uncharted etc... and don't see them on Pc do you???..;)"

I'll agree with all of the above except Uncharted, which had atrocious sales in the US last month.

But to think nobody's going to pick up a 360 for Splinter Cell, Forza or Ninja Gaiden is just naive. Sure, they won't sell as many consoles as MGS4 or GT5, but the 360 already had a few of its heavy hitters and the PS3 still has to catch up with the ones it has.

And believe me, the titles I listed were about 1/50th of all that's exclusive to the 360 (console wise). I just didn't feel like going through each game on the list to check and see if it was on PC.

All you did was incite someone to respond to you, troll :|

@Apologie

And it worked :(
You just had to sidetrack another thread with your fanboy posts, Apologie.

Another high quality PS3 game eh? Let me see...

/rubs crystal ball

Kryon and miiiguel are PS3 bashing...perhaps...?

ronuds

"But to think nobody's going to pick up a 360 for Splinter Cell, Forza or Ninja Gaiden is just naive. Sure, they won't sell as many consoles as MGS4 or GT5, but the 360 already had a few of its heavy hitters and the PS3 still has to catch up with the ones it has."

of course people will play thouse games you mentioned for the X360, just as they will play Motorstorm, Resistance Warhawk, Ratchet etc... the point is that the so called "heavy weight's", games like Gears of War, Halo 3 and Bioshok (the ones that have the gift to dratically increase sales) are not exclusive as Gt5, Metal GEar Solid 4, God of War 3, killzone 2, little Big Planet are... you see, i can play thouse big X360 titles in my Pc, some of them with even added content and better overall quality... so what does that mean?? it means that the only platforms that seem to know the meaning of exclusivity are NINTENDO and PS3, nothing more, X360 is very poor in this matter.

I understand what you're saying and in "some" cases you're correct, but what I'm not understanding is how it makes a difference. I don't think console or game sales have suffered and MS only benefits even more that those games are on PC because they're most likely running on their OS.

So how does the game being on PC hurt me as a 360 owner in any way? I'd bet if Sony owned an OS, their exclusives would be on PC as well.