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Unreal Championship Comments by Kristan Reed

7 November, 2002

Review - Xbox Live's biggest shooter, out next week? Sounds Nali

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Rusta
07/11/02 @ 12:48
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"Do I not like the xbox"

looks good to me..

You just can't please some people...
Errol
07/11/02 @ 12:53
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It must be graphically a lot worse than PC UT2003.

Just in terms of resolution alone.

(just checked out the screen shots - and they confirm my fears. It looks shocking compared to a PC running it a 1024*768 with all settings on highest.)
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Blerk
07/11/02 @ 12:58
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Looks pretty good. If you like that sort of thing.
Rusta
07/11/02 @ 13:01
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I would not say it's 'worse', as graphically it looks good on both platforms. Agreeably not as good as the PC version with everything turned up, but my 1000+ pound PC is a higher spec and is not as portable as my xbox or ps2
Tiitiz
07/11/02 @ 13:01
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just checked out the screen shots - and they confirm my fears. It looks shocking compared to a PC running it a 1024*768 with all settings on highest

Blame the TV's mate. Although I do have an HDTV which is looking forward to its high res games
ssuellid
07/11/02 @ 13:06
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Errol, you would be surpised how good console games look on a TV even tho they are running at low res.
Amajiro
07/11/02 @ 13:12
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N00b question: If a TV scans at 50Hz, does that mean that the max frame rate for a console is 50fps?
Errol
07/11/02 @ 13:13
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My p IV 2.4 with 128mb Geforce 4 makes UT2003 look amazing.

It only cost about a thousand pounds more than the Xbox too !
Errol
07/11/02 @ 13:14
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YOU PLAY LIKE A GIRL !

MY HOUSE !

OWNAGE !

YOU LIKE THAT ?
ssuellid
07/11/02 @ 13:14
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The picture is interlaced which basically means that only half of the picture is drawn at a time. Therefore for 50hz TVs the frame rate is 50/2 = 25fps.

The console could be quite possibly be capable of a much higher fps but what comes out of the TV will be 25fps.
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IgeL
07/11/02 @ 14:34
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Who cares about UC... Mech Assault all the way! It got 9.2 on IGN btw. :)
Errol
07/11/02 @ 14:42
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BOOM !
Mugwum [staff]
07/11/02 @ 14:57
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I think the fanboys are anti-Xbox to be honest. If I were a punter, they'd put me off buying one...
kissoon
07/11/02 @ 15:02
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Until theses m$ idiots decide to produce a keyboard and a mouse this, and every other fps in a console, are rubbish.

Do it like the DC. Period.
brutal
07/11/02 @ 15:12
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thanks, but i dont think a keyboard + mouse are going to be particularly useful on a couch. Keep it all on the pad. You'll get used to it. it keeps a level playing field too.

and if you dont, go back to your PC.
Tiitiz
07/11/02 @ 15:16
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kissoon - I love FPS games and i use to feel the same way until i got Halo on Xbox. Took me about 1-2 hours to get fully use to it. Now all is fine both PC and Console
Nemesis
07/11/02 @ 15:19
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Keep it on the pad, nice and easy. It's a console, stop trying to make it into a cheap PC ;-)
Errol
07/11/02 @ 15:20
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thanks, but i dont think a keyboard + mouse are going to be particularly useful on a couch. Keep it all on the pad. You'll get used to it. it keeps a level playing field too

If they ever start letting Console people play in the same arenas as PC people, the console people will get so destroyed it will not even be funny.

I bet that a person using a joypad would not even kill me once in UT2003. It would be a whitewash.
Nemesis
07/11/02 @ 15:20
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Moving onto Live!, can UC be used with the beta release going on at present?

As I'm not on the beta (b3"$$£rds) I guess it'd be sensible to wait until the Spring....
Nemesis
07/11/02 @ 15:26
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Stam, I just agreed to be part of the test on the official site, but I think people are chosen at random.

Grr.
Errol
07/11/02 @ 15:26
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AH ! - How do you know ? Anyway, that wasnt the point of what I was saying. I was saying that the people with the joypad would never win (BECAUSE of the joypad - not because of my innate superior 5killz)
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Nemesis
07/11/02 @ 15:31
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Check out the Xbox Live thread in the forums for more detailed info...

Live thread
kissoon
07/11/02 @ 15:38
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fps's in a pad??
You're all a clueless bunch you know?

I suggest you all go find some nice demos (Garpy one's in AGHL will do just fine) and look at the action you're missing.

Shit, go look at some Quake/UT tournaments.
Now go tell those kids to play with a pad ;)

Oh, one more thing:

brutal wrote:
"and if you dont, go back to your PC"

No shit Sherlock...


binky
07/11/02 @ 15:40
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CAPTAIN SEXY - read the article.... now tell me what it says at the end....
brutal
07/11/02 @ 15:44
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"If they ever start letting Console people play in the same arenas as PC people, the console people will get so destroyed it will not even be funny."

i played quake 3 on a DC server not so long ago. hohohoho i never laughed so much in my life. so unbalanced it was untrue

Errol
07/11/02 @ 15:47
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brutal - It must have been like shooting fish in a barrel ! lol.
Nemesis
07/11/02 @ 15:48
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Shit, go look at some Quake/UT tournaments.
Now go tell those kids to play with a pad ;)


On a PC, mouse+kbd all the way. God, could you imagine playing on keys /shudder/

But for a console, offline (as UC still is) against bots, use the pad.

Now if MS had put a standard USB port on the thing, like the PS2, it'd not be an issue.
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ReGuRgIt8oR
07/11/02 @ 15:58
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As far as I understand UC will work with Xbox Live "beta", "test drive" and retail versions.

Adverts and shots of game case say Xbox Live Enabled.

However, I've never understood very far.
Dirtbox
07/11/02 @ 17:06
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i'm with Nemesis, sod trying to play that with an xbox joybrick.
Tiitiz
07/11/02 @ 17:20
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I wonder what people would say to playing Metroid Prime on a console.

me gets ready for another 100+ thread :)
Azule
07/11/02 @ 17:35
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If the PC setup is so great, why is anyone here even excited at all about some dumbed down Xbox version?
martu
07/11/02 @ 17:48
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Now we have game input device fanboys.

Unbelievable.
Khab
07/11/02 @ 18:14
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I wonder what people would say to playing Metroid Prime on a console.

I'd say "Bleagh!", really, but since I haveno choice in the matter, I guess I'll have to. If there was a PC version (or a mouse+keys for the GC), I'd go for that 18 times out of 10. I'm sorry, but playing an FPS on a joypad smells too much like regressing to playing on keyboard only to me... Doomish.
martu
07/11/02 @ 18:25
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"but playing an FPS on a joypad smells too much like regressing to playing on keyboard only to me... Doomish."

Have you tried it? Until Halo I was PC only for my FPSes but gave Halo a go and it works, it really does.

What do you lose?
Tiitiz
07/11/02 @ 20:11
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Well I can safely say that I think Mech Assault is gonna be alot better overall.

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/376/376553p1.html
Bill Gates is Evil
07/11/02 @ 21:38
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Good score. You've changed drastically since your first couple of Xbox-related posts, Krudster. Have you been paid off?

And duc, xboxrox was talking about eurogamer, not IGN.
ssuellid
07/11/02 @ 21:51
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Maybe Krudster likes this game more than the last XBox one he reviewed? ;)
BartonFink
08/11/02 @ 09:36
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but playing an FPS on a joypad smells too much like regressing to playing on keyboard only to me... Doomish.
Ah the old kb+mouse v's controller horseshit once more.
Everyone to their own - try both and see what you think. Personally I think a controller is much better than a kb+mouse (the main reason I bought a dual strike for my PC), it also means I don't have to leave my couch and be hunched over a keyboard for hours on end (I do that enough during the day).
Incidentally this game was designed for the xbox controller not kb+mouse.

quick question, is this actually much different from tornument 2003?
what kind of changes are there?
same maps?
is it worth me buying both?

This is not the same game as UT2003 it was done by a completely different team. AFAIK it doesn't have the same maps etc.

krudster [mod]
08/11/02 @ 09:46
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For the 900th time, I'm not anti Xbox! I'm anti crap games, however ;)
08/11/02 @ 10:42
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well as to to the mouse vs. pad argument.

Can I just suggest trying Goldeneye with kb/mouse via emulator. You'll find that it's much easier.

kb/mouse fo life.
ssuellid
08/11/02 @ 11:02
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"Can I just suggest trying Goldeneye with kb/mouse via emulator. You'll find that it's much easier."

Keyboard and mouse are when you have a nice desk to use them on but absolutely f**king useless on a sofa -I tried with Quake and Unreal on the DC.
martu
08/11/02 @ 11:09
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"Can I just suggest trying Goldeneye with kb/mouse via emulator. You'll find that it's much easier."

Why would you want it to be easier???
Rusta
08/11/02 @ 11:15
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Errol wrote: I bet that a person using a joypad would not even kill me once in UT2003. It would be a whitewash.

lmao, some of the best players use joypads on the PC, check out the top 10 earning players
Nemesis
08/11/02 @ 11:18
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Keyboard and mouse are when you have a nice desk to use them on but absolutely f**king useless on a sofa -I tried with Quake and Unreal on the DC.

Imagine mouse+kbd+voice comms leads all across the floor to the console! An accident waiting to happen!

Returning to UC then, until Live this is nothing more than offline play with bots. I'd rather save the money for Splinter Cell.

Are EG going to run a re-review of UC when Live is out??
Mr Sleep
08/11/02 @ 11:46
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I didn't actually like bombing run when I played with bots, I found it mind numbingly boring and awkward, no matter how many times I ruled the opposition my useless team mates just stagnated the entire thing leaving me about 1 hr on a single map going back and forth... *spit*

X-Box *spit* :p

Controllers *spit* :p

You all suck, muppets the lot of you!!! OWNAGE! *sigh*
krudster [mod]
08/11/02 @ 12:47
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strictly speaking, UC isn't just bots if you have the ability to link up, or play split screen etc. But yes, it would be nice to do a re-evaluation once the Live service is up and running, concentrating purely on this side of things.
krudster [mod]
08/11/02 @ 12:48
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Can someone recommend the best N64 emu for playing GoldenEye on keyboard and mouse? I'd like to give that a crack. Does UltraHLE support it?
ssuellid
08/11/02 @ 12:58
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Don't know whether it supports Goldeneye with a keyboard and mouse but Project64 was supposed to be the best last time I had a go with N64 emus: -

http://www.pj64.net/


List of emus here :-

http://www.smiff.clara.net/emulators/index.htm
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Nemesis
08/11/02 @ 13:49
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strictly speaking, UC isn't just bots if you have the ability to link up, or play split screen etc.

If you can get the mates to concentrate after an alcohol filled evening!

Would be a cool idea to re-evaluate. I reckon this title will come into it's own on Live.
Mr Sleep
08/11/02 @ 13:55
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"Would be a cool idea to re-evaluate."

I have often thought that re-evaluation should be done after a big patching spree, obviously this is related to PC more than console. It would be nice for a game that is given terrible scores due to bugs that when it is patched to a correct state that the score is readdressed.

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